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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 25, 2018 17:50:00 GMT 1
I think if I were a Town player and I came back to pre season knowing that we'd moved on Ince and a couple of fringe lads I'd be looking forward to seeing what the new signings were like, I'd prob be ready for having to fight for my place and maybe worried they'd take my place. If when I saw them on the training pitch I realised none of them were good enough to start I think be a little worried and maybe wonder what kind of club I was playing for (especially if I'd just signed for big bucks from Monaco). I'd be thinking we only stayed up by the skin of our teeth last season and now we've sold Ince (one of, if not our best winger) and bought a load of old shyte not good enough to start. I think that may be a little disconcerting for the players, same as it is the fans but they see these players week in week out and will really know if it's gonna work out. I think its naive not to think the players might be a little bit lacking in confidence in the squad as a whole and not just themselves. Every pro footballer will tell you new signings give the squad a lift, if you're signing ones that aren't good enough or worse than you had maybe it has the opposite effect. Hopefully its not the case and they are just looking forward to the day the new boys can affect games but they aren't half taking some time getting up to speed if that's the case! Have to disagree re Ince. Watched enough of him last season to see he isn’t PL standard. Too early to say if the 2 new lads we brought in during the summer will be better. Ince was like a young George Best if you listen to some of the numpties on here The lad was crap and contributed one important goal. If he hadn't scored that then I think he would have gone down as our worst ever signing given what we paid for him
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 25, 2018 17:50:18 GMT 1
Of course ... but we lose a couple of games and folk are reading into the psyche of the players etc in a way that they wouldn’t if we won .. winning breeds confidence and we are lower on confidence than we would be having won the last two .. that’s how it works rightly or wrongly .. we need a win to hopefully get going .. we look like a relegation squad at present . But let’s not see things that aren’t there Im generally pretty positive but the reality is , this isn;t a recent thing. This is one win in sixteen now! And only 6 goals in those 16 games! Thats a horrendous run which would have seen any other manager in this division out of a job. I want to see wagner turn this round but the time is coming where you have to either act, or just accept we are almost certainly going to go down, and probably in a bad way. I’m not really “positive “ slapps. I think we will be relegated . With Wagner , fat sam or pep . I hope I’m wrong but it is what it is . And it’s not the end of the world is it ? With the parachute payments etc .. hoyle has said dw is the best man for the job even if we go down .. I tend to agree ... sackings and managerial merry go rounds don’t work medium term .. Hes said he isn’t sacking him so my view is let’s pull together because that’s our only hope ... if people want Wagner sacked then they are entitled to the opinion but I would at least respect them more for coming out with it rather than this pussyfooting. Which folk are doing at present
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 25, 2018 18:01:43 GMT 1
Im generally pretty positive but the reality is , this isn;t a recent thing. This is one win in sixteen now! And only 6 goals in those 16 games! Thats a horrendous run which would have seen any other manager in this division out of a job. I want to see wagner turn this round but the time is coming where you have to either act, or just accept we are almost certainly going to go down, and probably in a bad way. I’m not really “positive “ slapps. I think we will be relegated . With Wagner , fat sam or pep . I hope I’m wrong but it is what it is . And it’s not the end of the world is it ? With the parachute payments etc .. hoyle has said dw is the best man for the job even if we go down .. I tend to agree ... sackings and managerial merry go rounds don’t work medium term .. Hes said he isn’t sacking him so my view is let’s pull together because that’s our only hope ... if people want Wagner sacked then they are entitled to the opinion but I would at least respect them more for coming out with it rather than this pussyfooting. Which folk are doing at present youre probably right about going down. How we react over the following year or two will determine what sort of club we are watching for the next few decades IMO. build and go back up and become a frequent top flight visitor, such as a norwich , boro or a stoke. Or go back to what we were like bradford, barnsley and wigan. Don't think anyone wants to admit that sacking wagner is the thing to do,which might explain the pussyfooting about. It just feels wrong to think it. But we are Huddersfield Town, not David Wagner Town, so the club comes first. And it 'may' be that to stand any chance of turning this ( now long standing ) slump around, a tough decision has to be made. Or we could beat spurs on saturday, and no one would dream of sacking him!!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 25, 2018 18:04:50 GMT 1
A rational post that slapps imo as is your norm on tott
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Post by Melc on Sept 25, 2018 18:11:31 GMT 1
I think if I were a Town player and I came back to pre season knowing that we'd moved on Ince and a couple of fringe lads I'd be looking forward to seeing what the new signings were like, I'd prob be ready for having to fight for my place and maybe worried they'd take my place. If when I saw them on the training pitch I realised none of them were good enough to start I think be a little worried and maybe wonder what kind of club I was playing for (especially if I'd just signed for big bucks from Monaco). I'd be thinking we only stayed up by the skin of our teeth last season and now we've sold Ince (one of, if not our best winger) and bought a load of old shyte not good enough to start. I think that may be a little disconcerting for the players, same as it is the fans but they see these players week in week out and will really know if it's gonna work out. I think its naive not to think the players might be a little bit lacking in confidence in the squad as a whole and not just themselves. Every pro footballer will tell you new signings give the squad a lift, if you're signing ones that aren't good enough or worse than you had maybe it has the opposite effect. Hopefully its not the case and they are just looking forward to the day the new boys can affect games but they aren't half taking some time getting up to speed if that's the case! I love ( actually detest) how you are writing off players who have played minutes for the club . If you were a Norwich fan you’d have written off Maddison when he was loaned out to cov and Aberdeen . This place is a fucking joke . This place is a fucking joke.....you should know as you spend most of your life on here!!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 25, 2018 18:23:01 GMT 1
I love ( actually detest) how you are writing off players who have played minutes for the club . If you were a Norwich fan you’d have written off Maddison when he was loaned out to cov and Aberdeen . This place is a fucking joke . This place is a fucking joke.....you should know as you spend most of your life on here!! How do you know ? Cos you are here also ? Get a grip tosstits
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Post by scoffsablue on Sept 25, 2018 18:32:10 GMT 1
Let me start this thread by saying I do not advocate a change of manager, at all. DW has earned the right to get us out of this mess. However, I think most fans are in agreement that we are in a malaise as a club. Things are not right - the atmosphere has changed. I have wondered whether the conception that Wagner will be here at the end of the season come what may could be part of the issue. He has adopted a change of tactics that is not bringing results, and the players do not look confident. Gone is the high pressing, high tempo, high aggression defending. We seem set up to play a counter attacking game we're not equipped for, and it's fair to say many have questioned both the team selection and the summer transfer activity (albeit with hindsight in the latter case). I wonder whether the safety net that Wagner feels he has is actually a millstone round his neck, and is preventing him from making bold decisions, playing a bold way? I'll put my tin hat on now and wait for the happy clappy brigade to shoot me down, but I'm genuinely trying to get my head round what's changed, and am not advocating he goes any time soon. I guess you say that because he got us in to this mess? I'm not part of the 'happy clappy brigade' and never will be but come on...check out @scoffa62 tweet regarding Wagner efforts over the past 3 years...No more to say really.
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Post by Melc on Sept 25, 2018 18:50:07 GMT 1
This place is a fucking joke.....you should know as you spend most of your life on here!! How do you know ? Cos you are here also ? Get a grip tosstits I wondered how long it would be before you resorted to the usual insults, you are the one that needs to get a grip mr chip on shoulder! 39,151 posts says you live on here.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 25, 2018 18:52:03 GMT 1
How do you know ? Cos you are here also ? Get a grip tosstits I wondered how long it would be before you resorted to the usual insults, you are the one that needs to get a grip mr chip on shoulder! 39,151 posts says you live on here. Of course it does mr man on internet having a hang up about another man on internet .. what are your views on the subject ? ( I wonder )
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Post by workshyfop on Sept 25, 2018 19:06:35 GMT 1
The fuckwittery on this thread is unbelievable ...
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Post by Melc on Sept 25, 2018 19:18:24 GMT 1
I wondered how long it would be before you resorted to the usual insults, you are the one that needs to get a grip mr chip on shoulder! 39,151 posts says you live on here. Of course it does mr man on internet having a hang up about another man on internet .. what are your views on the subject ? ( I wonder ) To be honest with you I have mixed feelings at the minute. Any team struggling to score goals are going to struggle no matter what league they are in, but this league is unforgiving. Wagner performed miracles to get us promoted, and deserves a chance to get us out of this mess, but i feel he needs to get us back to the type of football that got us here in the first place for us to climb the table. Still think Hoyle should have not commented on Wagner regarding him having a job no matter what this season, as I feel people who feel comfortable can easily get complacent, but that was Deans call so be it!
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 25, 2018 19:35:34 GMT 1
He's not unsackable though is he? What if Wagner has a shit in Dean's top drawer in his office? The drawer where he keeps his Cuban cigars? Or he joins Ted and Nick for a threesome in the Kilner Bank bogs at half time v Spurs? Or if he slips one of the players wives a length? Or if he starts betting on us to lose? Or bribes a ref? Or stars in a beastiality, snuff movie involving Julian Winter, Mr Tumble and Snorbits the dog? I reckon if he does all of those things, he might get the sack, or a verbal warning at least. Have you been reading 'employment tribunal news monthly' again?
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 25, 2018 19:36:19 GMT 1
Just to add, this is a great thread, sensible debate for a change... :-) Which idiot wrote this???
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 25, 2018 20:21:01 GMT 1
Of course it does mr man on internet having a hang up about another man on internet .. what are your views on the subject ? ( I wonder ) To be honest with you I have mixed feelings at the minute. Any team struggling to score goals are going to struggle no matter what league they are in, but this league is unforgiving. Wagner performed miracles to get us promoted, and deserves a chance to get us out of this mess, but i feel he needs to get us back to the type of football that got us here in the first place for us to climb the table. Still think Hoyle should have not commented on Wagner regarding him having a job no matter what this season, as I feel people who feel comfortable can easily get complacent, but that was Deans call so be it! I suppose it could go either way .. could be seen as a message of calm or a message of complacency .. good post though
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 25, 2018 20:23:31 GMT 1
He's not unsackable though is he? What if Wagner has a shit in Dean's top drawer in his office? The drawer where he keeps his Cuban cigars? Or he joins Ted and Nick for a threesome in the Kilner Bank bogs at half time v Spurs? Or if he slips one of the players wives a length? Or if he starts betting on us to lose? Or bribes a ref? Or stars in a beastiality, snuff movie involving Julian Winter, Mr Tumble and Snorbits the dog? I reckon if he does all of those things, he might get the sack, or a verbal warning at least. Have you been reading 'employment tribunal news monthly' again? Talking of shitting . Can anyone remember possibly the worst loan full back we ever signed , ( lots to choose from ) Stephen Jordan from sheff Utd .. I heard this week on a podcast that he was sent back for shitting in the captains shoes !
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Post by royrace on Sept 25, 2018 20:44:39 GMT 1
Have to disagree re Ince. Watched enough of him last season to see he isn’t PL standard. Too early to say if the 2 new lads we brought in during the summer will be better. Ince was like a young George Best if you listen to some of the numpties on here The lad was crap and contributed one important goal. If he hadn't scored that then I think he would have gone down as our worst ever signing given what we paid for him Ince started every game last season more or less, the new lads are still nowhere near starters. Regardless of what your opinion is on Ince why can't some on here get get their thick heads round the fact that selling him was a mistake based on the fact we haven't replaced him with equal let alone better. We are weaker without him in the team and having to play last season's second choice. Is that such a difficult concept to grasp? ....yes I know he didn't set the league alight but that is not the bloody point!!! And saying he was an expensive flop is just plain idiotic when we sold him for more than we paid and replaced him with a 13m bench warmer. Worst ever signing?! Ffs, absolute bull shit. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 25, 2018 21:24:56 GMT 1
Ince was like a young George Best if you listen to some of the numpties on here The lad was crap and contributed one important goal. If he hadn't scored that then I think he would have gone down as our worst ever signing given what we paid for him Ince started every game last season more or less, the new lads are still nowhere near starters. Regardless of what your opinion is on Ince why can't some on here get get their thick heads round the fact that selling him was a mistake based on the fact we haven't replaced him with equal let alone better. We are weaker without him in the team and having to play last season's second choice. Is that such a difficult concept to grasp? ....yes I know he didn't set the league alight but that is not the bloody point!!! And saying he was an expensive flop is just plain idiotic when we sold him for more than we paid and replaced him with a 13m bench warmer. Worst ever signing?! Ffs, absolute bull shit. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards Ah the old he was good for the team, did lots of unseen work bla bla bla. All players in a Wagner side work their bollocks off. Kachunga can do exactly what Ince did for us defensively and be equally as ineffective going forward so id hardly say we're weaker. Ince missed tons of chances last season and created very few for others. He isn't missed and he's hardly setting the Championship alight
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 22:32:52 GMT 1
Have you been reading 'employment tribunal news monthly' again? Talking of shitting . Can anyone remember possibly the worst loan full back we ever signed , ( lots to choose from ) Stephen Jordan from sheff Utd .. I heard this week on a podcast that he was sent back for shitting in the captains shoes ! Did he shot in the shoes of the football captain or the captain that posts on here? Either way, if like to shake his hand. If he's washed it.
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Post by tockyterrier on Sept 25, 2018 23:27:34 GMT 1
I don’t agree that most fans think we are in a malaise as a club.We are just in a tough league with an uneven playing field. Totally agree. The club is not in a malaise. It's the fans that have UI realistic expectation which are not being met that is the problem. The "problem" With the premier League is that fixtures come in batches. At our level, we can go on a run of games that are winnable or very tough. I think performance wise we have competed better than last season in the same fixtures last season. The run so far has not been great but Palace, Leicester and Everton all whooped us last season and I think we are on the same number of points from this fixtures. It's disappointing that we've lost because our own doing for to missed chances and mistakes. If we'd been in this position last season like Cardiff are. We'd be thinking that this League is just too hard but probably be enjoying the ride rather than complaining about it.
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Post by 4 pts on Sept 25, 2018 23:40:11 GMT 1
We’ve played 6 games ffs .. I expected us to be here 12 months ago but a miracle occurred . Mel why don’t you stick your head above the parapet and say “sack him “ ... you know you wanted to in our promotion season and again in our survival season .. looking back do you think fat sam ( or whoever ) would have got us up and kept us up ? Anyway no matter .. call for his head instead of skirting round it again Stop being a retard Ted. We're not performing in-front of goal and haven't been since the day Wagner arrived. I've asked you to trawl through my posts and ask where I've said Wagner should be sacked, and as far I'm aware, you've not managed to come with a quote from me that resembles that. I don't want him sacked, I want him to sort it out and prove that he's the manager we all think he can be - he's definitely not the messiah you think he is. Yes he's revolutionary to what we've been accustomed to, but the quality of some of our football has been poor, both in this division and in the championship. As far as Allardyce goes. As I've always said, if there comes a time when it looks like Wagner is taking us down, and Allardyce could keep us up, then if he's available at that time I think it would be the right call. That's only my opinion, don't get so upset about it man. Is that clear Edward? Why not try a different approach. Employ a top class specialist attacking coach instead of seeing a fat fucker booking himself into the Dubai Jumeirah in 6 months time when he walks away with another 6 mil
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 26, 2018 6:07:36 GMT 1
Think of Brexit, there are those that voted leave because in reality it was never going to happen. Then it did and for some of those voters it was 'oh shit, what have I done'. I liken this to those stating on here or questioning if it is time for Wagner to go. If it was announced he had gone, I believe every single Town fan including those that want him to go or are questioning if he should would be gutted and feeling extremely sad at the end of an era. The best era most of us will ever have known following Huddersfield Town. Think about the integrity of the Man and how we represents our Club. He's done it once with a poorer squad than this to get us promoted out of the Championship, if it comes to it, why would he not give it a good go to do the same?. The new training facility being built, sell-out crowds, multi-million pound signings, Worldwide exposure, bragging rights, Michael Hefele. Wagner has made all this happen or is making it happen. Granted Hoyle does not go unrecognised here, of course he doesn't but Wagner got us over the line and got us there. Finally, think the German thing at the end of the match when we have won and Wagner's beaming face and recognition of the fans. That is the 'Brexit moment' where none of us want to think we will never see that again. Granted it's been a while but to consider removing a Man who has galvanised a Club and it's fans like he has and after all he has done for us. He deserves and has earned better than that.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Sept 26, 2018 7:12:18 GMT 1
He's not unsackable though is he? What if Wagner has a shit in Dean's top drawer in his office? The drawer where he keeps his Cuban cigars? Or he joins Ted and Nick for a threesome in the Kilner Bank bogs at half time v Spurs? Or if he slips one of the players wives a length? Or if he starts betting on us to lose? Or bribes a ref? Or stars in a beastiality, snuff movie involving Julian Winter, Mr Tumble and Snorbits the dog? I reckon if he does all of those things, he might get the sack, or a verbal warning at least. Are you angling to get on the script writing team for The Offensive? 😉
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Post by El Mel on Sept 26, 2018 7:42:33 GMT 1
Stop being a retard Ted. We're not performing in-front of goal and haven't been since the day Wagner arrived. I've asked you to trawl through my posts and ask where I've said Wagner should be sacked, and as far I'm aware, you've not managed to come with a quote from me that resembles that. I don't want him sacked, I want him to sort it out and prove that he's the manager we all think he can be - he's definitely not the messiah you think he is. Yes he's revolutionary to what we've been accustomed to, but the quality of some of our football has been poor, both in this division and in the championship. As far as Allardyce goes. As I've always said, if there comes a time when it looks like Wagner is taking us down, and Allardyce could keep us up, then if he's available at that time I think it would be the right call. That's only my opinion, don't get so upset about it man. Is that clear Edward? Why not try a different approach. Employ a top class specialist attacking coach instead of seeing a fat fucker booking himself into the Dubai Jumeirah in 6 months time when he walks away with another 6 mil I've said it earlier, we are lacking somebody within the walls of the club that has premier league experience. I think not bringing in somebody with that experience as part of our strategy once we were promoted was an error. I personally think that both Mounie and Depoitre are good enough to score goals at this level, but the coaching / tactics on our attacking play aren't providing them with the support they need. I suspect keeping these two psychologically focused must be a massive ask. They're basically being asked to go out and chase mainly lost causes every weekend.
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Post by swam4mwg on Sept 26, 2018 7:43:42 GMT 1
When you haven't won a game for nearly six months, confidence will be low and that reflects in performances. People then look at performances and say something is not quite right. Town need a win!
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Post by terrier10 on Sept 26, 2018 7:47:45 GMT 1
I’ve not properly read all the posts and opinions on this so apologise if repeat anything already posted.
My view is that we are in a very awkward position due to public comments made, however, not the one about DW being “unsackable”
DH made it clear that Town surviving was the key to DW staying and signing a new contract. If we had gone down DW would not have been our manager in the Championship.
So, in my mind that begs the question what will be different come the end of May if we go down this year? Now it could be argued DW’s “stock” won’t be as high in football but I doubt that.
So that then becomes an issue not so much in a sacking of DW and replacing in the hope of staying up this year but it is more does the succession planning need to start earlier if it looks like the writing is on the wall and a change will be made anyway.
I hope DW turns it around as what he has contributed to this club goes without saying. However, we have not scored enough goals for 2 and a half years and that is even harder now in “the best league in the world”
If things don’t start to turn around soon I think the succession planning for next season starts early and DW goes as, based on previous quotes, it’s unlikely he’d be here for our Championship challenge.
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Sept 26, 2018 8:54:38 GMT 1
Im generally pretty positive but the reality is , this isn;t a recent thing. This is one win in sixteen now! And only 6 goals in those 16 games! Thats a horrendous run which would have seen any other manager in this division out of a job. I want to see wagner turn this round but the time is coming where you have to either act, or just accept we are almost certainly going to go down, and probably in a bad way. I’m not really “positive “ slapps. I think we will be relegated . With Wagner , fat sam or pep . I hope I’m wrong but it is what it is . And it’s not the end of the world is it ? With the parachute payments etc .. hoyle has said dw is the best man for the job even if we go down .. I tend to agree ... sackings and managerial merry go rounds don’t work medium term .. Hes said he isn’t sacking him so my view is let’s pull together because that’s our only hope ... if people want Wagner sacked then they are entitled to the opinion but I would at least respect them more for coming out with it rather than this pussyfooting. Which folk are doing at present If that's aimed at me I'll direct you to the very first post on this thread in which I said unequivocally I don't want him sacked.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 26, 2018 9:54:34 GMT 1
When you haven't won a game for nearly six months, confidence will be low and that reflects in performances. People then look at performances and say something is not quite right. Town need a win!
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Post by royrace on Sept 26, 2018 12:12:54 GMT 1
Ince started every game last season more or less, the new lads are still nowhere near starters. Regardless of what your opinion is on Ince why can't some on here get get their thick heads round the fact that selling him was a mistake based on the fact we haven't replaced him with equal let alone better. We are weaker without him in the team and having to play last season's second choice. Is that such a difficult concept to grasp? ....yes I know he didn't set the league alight but that is not the bloody point!!! And saying he was an expensive flop is just plain idiotic when we sold him for more than we paid and replaced him with a 13m bench warmer. Worst ever signing?! Ffs, absolute bull shit. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards Ah the old he was good for the team, did lots of unseen work bla bla bla. All players in a Wagner side work their bollocks off. Kachunga can do exactly what Ince did for us defensively and be equally as ineffective going forward so id hardly say we're weaker. Ince missed tons of chances last season and created very few for others. He isn't missed and he's hardly setting the Championship alight If you cant see that Ince was far superior to Kachunga in that position then I can only assume you either don't see many games, or you're a very poor judge of a player. I'm a fan of Kachunga but Ince did far better in that role and has way more ability. Funnily enough that's why Wagner picked him over Kachunga all season. I wish Kachunga was good enough to miss the chances Ince did, fact is he hasn't even had a sniff of a goal. Ince also started on the left and as a number ten. Big player to let go when you haven't replaced him. Stupid decision.
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Post by royrace on Sept 26, 2018 12:18:20 GMT 1
I’ve not properly read all the posts and opinions on this so apologise if repeat anything already posted. My view is that we are in a very awkward position due to public comments made, however, not the one about DW being “unsackable” DH made it clear that Town surviving was the key to DW staying and signing a new contract. If we had gone down DW would not have been our manager in the Championship. So, in my mind that begs the question what will be different come the end of May if we go down this year? Now it could be argued DW’s “stock” won’t be as high in football but I doubt that. So that then becomes an issue not so much in a sacking of DW and replacing in the hope of staying up this year but it is more does the succession planning need to start earlier of it looks like the writing is on the wall and a change will be made anyway. I hope DW turns it around as what he has contributed to this club goes without saying. However, we have not scored enough goals for 2 and a half years and that is even harder now in “the best league in the world” If things don’t start to turn around soon I think the succession planning for next season starts early and DW goes as, based on previous quotes, it’s unlikely he’d be here for our Championship challenge. That's a really good point, you would hope the loyalty works both ways otherwise the club is going to end up looking a bit daft!!!! I guess the idea is we stick with the King, give him time, he's earned it, safe in the knowledge we're building stability and can have another crack at promotion with him the following season. If Wagner takes us down then just f*cks off its going to leave us looking a bit silly IMO and will give us the opposite of stability!!
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 26, 2018 12:22:38 GMT 1
Ah the old he was good for the team, did lots of unseen work bla bla bla. All players in a Wagner side work their bollocks off. Kachunga can do exactly what Ince did for us defensively and be equally as ineffective going forward so id hardly say we're weaker. Ince missed tons of chances last season and created very few for others. He isn't missed and he's hardly setting the Championship alight If you cant see that Ince was far superior to Kachunga in that position then I can only assume you either don't see many games, or you're a very poor judge of a player. I'm a fan of Kachunga but Ince did far better in that role and has way more ability. Funnily enough that's why Wagner picked him over Kachunga all season. I wish Kachunga was good enough to miss the chances Ince did, fact is he hasn't even had a sniff of a goal. Ince also started on the left and as a number ten. Big player to let go when you haven't replaced him. Stupid decision. Ince started more games because Kachunga was injured for most of the season. Ince lost so much confidence that he couldn't even bring himself to run at a defender, he would just take the easy option of a pass inside. Atleast Kachunga runs the line cuts back and lays it off for the full back to cross in a relatively decent position I saw every appearance from Ince last season and he was a waste of space. Neither he or Kachunga are consistently good enough at this level. Ince has had plenty of goes at it and ended up back in the Championship everytime. Pritchard will likely be the same
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