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Post by Town Duppy on Jan 30, 2019 0:12:53 GMT 1
I thought Puncheon was our best player excluding Mooy of course and I changed the game with my dancing on ice. Hogg is great without the ball but when he has it he shits him sen.
You're surely having a laugh. He offers nothing. He's slow, can't/won't shoot, gets caught in possession because he's so one footed. A Desperate signing imo So is most of the team, all the team, all the team, most of the team, Agreed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 0:13:21 GMT 1
We must not forget it’s a massive step down. With Wagner and the spine of the team- lossl, Schindler, kongolo, Billing, Hogg plus a new striker I could’ve seen us being a force. Now I’m worried. New guy, no experience or respect from players, anyone decent will be gone and we could be left with some mentally destroyed players and complete imposters of footballers.. I think I owe SW6 an apology... Wagner had certainly lost his belief but I fancied him to mount a bounce back challenge competing financially with most championship teams for the best players. I was being cautious saying mid table next year - too cautious in truth... but its looking very grim if tonights showing is a guide. Abosolutely. We looked utterly clueless. The difference in quality when Mooy came on was stark. I fear we’ll see that although blinded with the likes of gonads and ldp, Wagner brought some order and focus and leadership. As said, at a lower level with a competive budget I felt we’d be competitive- top 6 for sure. Now we’ve got a Wagner team with a King who’s abdicated his throne. It looks very bleak indeed. I was certainly wrong for calling out your pessimism as a few weeks later it looks increasingly likely you’ll be right. And I’m the fool.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 0:14:45 GMT 1
Puncheon is the definition of a footballer who's legs have gone. It is quite hard to watch.
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Post by est1908 on Jan 30, 2019 0:15:17 GMT 1
We must not forget it’s a massive step down. With Wagner and the spine of the team- lossl, Schindler, kongolo, Billing, Hogg plus a new striker I could’ve seen us being a force. Now I’m worried. New guy, no experience or respect from players, anyone decent will be gone and we could be left with some mentally destroyed players and complete imposters of footballers.. I think I owe SW6 an apology... Wagner had certainly lost his belief but I fancied him to mount a bounce back challenge competing financially with most championship teams for the best players. I was being cautious saying mid table next year - too cautious in truth... but its looking very grim if tonights showing is a guide. This team/squad will do well in the Championship, the defending is nowhere near like we are up against right now, neither are the midfielders....
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Post by Town Duppy on Jan 30, 2019 0:16:22 GMT 1
Puncheon is the definition of a footballer who's legs have gone. It is quite hard to watch. Perv.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 0:16:25 GMT 1
Why is puncheon still on the pitch? I don’t get it. Why is he not changing it. Sadly he cant do it anymore, hes finished at this level Where the hell were his shooting boots. That was one of the only points in signing him- that he was someone who would and could score from outside the box, by virtue of having done it a few times more than any of our guys. Several chances for him to shoot tonight but he just couldn’t be arsed. Just do what everyone else does and make it someone else’s responsibility.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 0:19:06 GMT 1
Puncheon is the definition of a footballer who's legs have gone. It is quite hard to watch. Like Whitehead after that last injury or whatshisname the midfielder we signed from brum..good for a few games then shot. I also had the misfortune to watch the German player at old Trafford on a charity day thing- Schweinstiger? Oh my days was he slow. Leaden boots. I thought I might get a game second half. I remember thinking they must’ve signed him to boost shirt sales in Germany.
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Post by mrg on Jan 30, 2019 0:20:41 GMT 1
We can’t blame refs or poor decisions. The table doesn’t lie we are the worst team in the league FACT By a country mile. We stayed up and blew the money on shit players just like hull city. Mate, we've spent £20/30m plus wages net this year. We will probably have £100m in green left over at the end of this year to cover our wages bill plus any outgoings. As long as we haven't spent it on fish and food we will be OK.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Jan 30, 2019 0:21:02 GMT 1
Awful match and an awful performance from Town. No positives tonight for me, only the return of Mooy. Diakhaby and Bacuna should never play for Town again, they're not the only dross we have either, big clear out needed. Looks like our stay in the Premier League is over, that result and others is the final nail. I honestly can't see us winning another game all season. It was horrendous and absolutely nobody will convince me otherwise. Aaron Mooy got the man of the match.... that says it all. Tonight highlighted how our problem isn’t the final third, it’s the 2nd third. We have no urgency, no pace and no tempo in the middle of the park. We are so predictable that tonight our only move was to get it to Flo and go from there. I’m genuinely baffled as to how wank we’ve become. Make no mistake about it, Everton were average and we never even looked like scoring. It started in the final third, now its everywhere
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Post by softboy on Jan 30, 2019 0:24:17 GMT 1
Fair to say our new style is defensive - keep it 0 0 - if we go a goal down keep it at 0 1 - if the new manager says he is ‘Proud’ of our efforts today then clearly it was Martin from Wakefield on the touchiline and not him - one of our poorest performances of the season so far
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 0:28:50 GMT 1
Puncheon is the definition of a footballer who's legs have gone. It is quite hard to watch. I remember thinking that watching Ian Rush playing for Wrexham, slowest thing I have ever see. It was painful.
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Post by Pork Soda on Jan 30, 2019 0:29:15 GMT 1
Dog dirt!
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Post by softboy on Jan 30, 2019 0:31:28 GMT 1
Our new tactic seems to be getting it back to Loosl as often as we can - not impressed at all
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Post by griffa on Jan 30, 2019 0:35:11 GMT 1
I thought Puncheon was our best player excluding Mooy of course and I changed the game with my dancing on ice. Hogg is great without the ball but when he has it he shits him sen.
You're surely having a laugh. He offers nothing. He's slow, can't/won't shoot, gets caught in possession because he's so one footed. A Desperate signing imo Puncheon has been a decent player in his time, but 'looks like his legs have gone to me.' Everton are a very ordinary case, unfortunately we were very poor, until Mooy came on. We're just not good enough, Steve Mounie was woeful, just not good enough. Dean's taken a huge gamble with Jan Siebert, let's hope it works - UTT.
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Post by space hardware on Jan 30, 2019 0:40:07 GMT 1
Didn't look a great deal different to the way Wagner was setting us up. Same baffling subs (1-0 down at home against a team with 10 men and he brings Löwe on 😬😬😂😂), same risk averse tactics, same brain melt at the back costing a goal.
Diakhaby is getting grief on here and was taking abuse from the stands but I actually thought he did OK. He's raw, ridiculously one footed and tactically naive but he looked to get in behind and take a man on.
After the sending off there were three or four occasions where he made a similar run when Puncheon or Bacuna had the ball in midfield only for them to ignore him and pass sideways. Safe, boring, shite.
We are just so dull to watch. Going down without a whimper and no one will miss us.
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Post by griffa on Jan 30, 2019 0:42:23 GMT 1
450 mile round trip for that....yet again. I need my head examining. Well done Epsomterrier, brilliant support, all of the way from Surrey. Pity the team played so poorly, against a very poor Everton team! Lot's of hard work fir Jan Siebert & his coaching team. Please, please, please Jan, sort out the deadline ball delivery, whether it's a corner, or free kick, we are clueless - UTT.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 30, 2019 0:43:49 GMT 1
Didn't look a great deal different to the way Wagner was setting us up. Same baffling subs (1-0 down at home against a team with 10 men and he brings Löwe on 😬😬😂😂), same risk averse tactics, same brain melt at the back costing a goal. Diakhaby is getting grief on here and was taking abuse from the stands but I actually thought he did OK. He's raw, ridiculously one footed and tactically naive but he looked to get in behind and take a man on. After the sending off there were three or four occasions where he made a similar run when Puncheon or Bacuna had the ball in midfield only for them to ignore him and pass sideways. Safe, boring, shite. We are just so dull to watch. Going down without a whimper and no one will miss us. They won't even know we've gone.
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Post by richyhtfc on Jan 30, 2019 1:04:46 GMT 1
Sometimes i think this site is just full of leeds fans trying to troll town fans, not realizing they just talking to other leeds fans who are pretending to be town fans. have a day off FFS I have posted 15 times in 3 months, what are you onabout.
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Post by tockyterrier on Jan 30, 2019 1:05:37 GMT 1
I Thought the evening was going bad enough and then the new gaffer brings on Lowe over Pritchard and Depoitre when we need goals was that all about. Makes you wonder how poorly Pritchard has performed in Portugal for that kind of decision to be made Abysmal substitution, was he thinking. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards He said in his interview - and it made sense - he wanted to get more /better crosses in to the box and thought Lowe was our best option to do that.
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Post by joggingnipple on Jan 30, 2019 1:16:20 GMT 1
Abysmal substitution, was he thinking. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards He said in his interview - and it made sense - he wanted to get more /better crosses in to the box and thought Lowe was our best option to do that. Sorry I disagree, for me it was the worst substitution I have seen in short term memory. Thankfully it's his first game, I hope he learns.
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Post by tockyterrier on Jan 30, 2019 1:19:44 GMT 1
Didn't look a great deal different to the way Wagner was setting us up. Same baffling subs (1-0 down at home against a team with 10 men and he brings Löwe on 😬😬😂😂), same risk averse tactics, same brain melt at the back costing a goal. Diakhaby is getting grief on here and was taking abuse from the stands but I actually thought he did OK. He's raw, ridiculously one footed and tactically naive but he looked to get in behind and take a man on. After the sending off there were three or four occasions where he made a similar run when Puncheon or Bacuna had the ball in midfield only for them to ignore him and pass sideways. Safe, boring, shite. We are just so dull to watch. Going down without a whimper and no one will miss us. I thought there were some obvious changes from Wagner, but it will take time to bed in. Going 1 down so early didn't help, but we set you a 433 to start with and it was obvious we were trying to get more bodies in to the box and at times we were 2 at the back and 4 or 5 up front. We looked at times that we were trying to break with me pace, I agree with you about Diakarby. Got the man sent off, made Kach's chance. His pace is his main threat, but he lost the back at times because he was trying to break forwards and take risks which is what many on here have wanted us to do, but he's getting grief for it. I think it will take time to get the attacking ideas across to the players who have been drilled in "Wagners way" for so long. I think people are over texting and were expecting too much tonight.
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Post by cissystrutt74 on Jan 30, 2019 1:20:32 GMT 1
Didn't look a great deal different to the way Wagner was setting us up. Same baffling subs (1-0 down at home against a team with 10 men and he brings Löwe on 😬😬😂😂), same risk averse tactics, same brain melt at the back costing a goal. Diakhaby is getting grief on here and was taking abuse from the stands but I actually thought he did OK. He's raw, ridiculously one footed and tactically naive but he looked to get in behind and take a man on. After the sending off there were three or four occasions where he made a similar run when Puncheon or Bacuna had the ball in midfield only for them to ignore him and pass sideways. Safe, boring, shite. We are just so dull to watch. Going down without a whimper and no one will miss us. Completely agree re diakhaby. I'd play just behind Mounie, has pace to burn and looks like he can handle a ball over the top to run onto. lets be honest, when flo gets the ball on the wing he does'nt look like he has a clue what to do with it, almost does'nt want it and gets rid as early as poss towards lossl. Time me to try some different tactics and I'd like to see us try to go long with balls over the top and pacy players running on to it. What have we got to lose?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 2:46:35 GMT 1
our problem is we can keep the ball but we don’t hurt the opposition at all.
There were a couple of passages of play that stood out to me. One where we played a nice triangle out right, created 3 yards of space for Flo to cross, Mounie and others started their movement in the box, and Flo passed it back to another midfielder. A good cross may have led to a chance but it was never delivered.
Then with Everton down to 10, 20 minutes left, I watched as Schindler and Zanka took over a minute to advance the ball 20 yards. Everton had so much time to get organized and get all 10 men behind the ball that as usual the move came to nothing.
Another move shortly after and the ball is going back and forth actors the pitcch 25 yards out, we had no ideas on how to actually create an opportunity to shoot.
I do think we tried to be a bit more direct today and we did create a couple of half chances, but as usual nothing clear cut and no goals.
I don’t blame Jan, he needs time to figure this out. I honestly blame months of negative safety first tactics leading to a complete lack of variation in our attacking play. Being saying for two years we are unbelievably predictable and its going to take more than a week to change that.
Wish the change had been made earlier because if things don’t improve quickly the fans will get frustrated with the new coach and it really is not his fault.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 3:11:11 GMT 1
We’ve employed the German Thomas Christiansen.
Woefully out of his depth...it’s becoming more apparent every time he talks.
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Post by jakemoor123 on Jan 30, 2019 4:38:27 GMT 1
We’ve employed the German Thomas Christiansen. Woefully out of his depth...it’s becoming more apparent every time he talks. Give him a chance ffs. He’s only been here a week. He needs time to change the mentality of the players and that isn’t going to happen in a week.
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Post by Pork Soda on Jan 30, 2019 5:01:00 GMT 1
“The most important thing is that we didn’t play like someone who is bottom of the table." (Siewert) 😂🤣 !!
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Post by Up the Duff. on Jan 30, 2019 7:51:09 GMT 1
450 mile round trip for that....yet again. I need my head examining. I have flights booked for the Arsenal game... For the first time I am wondering whether to put myself through the pain and expense. I know I will be there though...
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jan 30, 2019 8:30:00 GMT 1
Is it? We've had worse times... Apparently our 9th loss by a 1 goal margin. No-one to blame but ourselves, but does sort of prove that the only & obvious thing lacking for us is goals. We've not had the best of luck this season either, which sharpens up this particular stat... Anyway, I'm not saying I'm not pissed off, just trying to be as mellow as I can about this... Do you think when Bournemouth lose a game Eddie Howe turns round and says “well at least we aren’t in league two like we were twelve years ago”. He doesn’t because it’s irrelevant. This “little huddersfield are grateful to be here” mentality is one of the reason we’ve been dicked on this season. We’ve heard it that much from Wagner it’s rubbed off on everyone - players and fans alike. And I’m sick to death of it. I also can’t understand the whole “were ok but we just can’t score” argument ... Scoring goals is the single most hardest thing to do in football! If you can’t do that then your fucked. Good post and I totally agree, I've said it before. I think it's been drilled into them and has become a massive problem this season.
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Post by kennyk2 on Jan 30, 2019 8:35:39 GMT 1
We’ve employed the German Thomas Christiansen. Woefully out of his depth...it’s becoming more apparent every time he talks. First prize. I was wondering who would be the first to criticise the manager... but after one game in charge?
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 30, 2019 8:53:19 GMT 1
Those saying there was nothing different must have missed us almost playing with 4 up front first half. It was far more attacking than previous but our passing was so dire it didn't really matter
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