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Post by mids on Dec 18, 2022 11:53:41 GMT 1
What has happened since Wembley, and has ultimately led to MF being our coach, beggars belief. I feel he's been given an impossible job. I am not surprised that we have had the break and, still, don't look like winning games. We are in a complete mess. We continue to look to off load players so unless, much, better are coming in what is going to change? I would suggest nothing at all. I found his assessment of yesterday's game, although positive, complete nonsense and for that reason alone I'd make a change. The only solution in our circumstances ie I don't see us appointing anyone credible, is to ask Chico to take the reins and see what he can do. I think the fans would support him and he can take a "nothing to lose" outlook. Unless there is a footballing miracle we are in League One and we need to accept that and look forward to preparing for it. When Chico was in charge , just for that very short time, things looked great. Electric atmosphere in the ground, team playing with aggression and positivity etc. Didn't he only have one game in charge?
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Dec 18, 2022 11:54:36 GMT 1
When Chico was in charge , just for that very short time, things looked great. Electric atmosphere in the ground, team playing with aggression and positivity etc. Didn't he only have one game in charge? Not sure Mids. I just remember the home game.
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Post by Made In Yorkshire on Dec 18, 2022 11:57:40 GMT 1
It seems increasingly like the club has gone dormant, so who would make the decision to sack him anyway..nobody is making any decisive decisions are they. And if he's sacked , and we pay up the 2.5 years ;eft on his contract..who do we bring in that can get a tune out of the broken strings of a squad we have ? So I've said no...there's no point..we look like we're already relegated and come January we won't sign anyone because we'll be 15 points adrift of safety.. I'm curious to know, based on the form of those teams just above us, how we will be 15 points adrift?
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Post by yorik on Dec 18, 2022 11:58:05 GMT 1
Yes both him and Bromby should go straight away how can people still be backing him the worst town manager of all time and there have been a few stinkers. The guy is out of his depth and incompetent but this is Huddersfield town so they will sit on there hands till we are in league one and heading for league two
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Dec 18, 2022 12:09:01 GMT 1
He should never have been appointed Whilst partly responsible for this debacle, I can’t imagine Bromby was stupid enough to give him a 3 year contract without suitable conditions - and therefore assume we can afford to get rid MF is in a difficult position with a much weaker squad than last year (but he knew that) and issues off the pitch - this isn’t an easy job for anyone. I said last season if we failed to get promoted we’d be lower half this season But not 7 adrift! The squad as weak as it is, is better than that He has been here 13 games and had a pre season. Whilst he’s cringy / uncomfortable to listen to, talks about himself too much and you feel like he’d fall out in an empty room - he could get away with all that & operating like Cowdenbeath under 7s if we looked like a football team on the pitch We have no consistent shape, attacking pattern. If we did anything in 4 week break, that should have been it. I see no improvement or plan We have scored 3 goals in 9 games - all from left back. One was a cross & two from Ruffels at QPR. Disgraceful. Exactly this, it's why I was hoping to see some improvement in attacking moves/intent in the Olympiacos friendly but was sadly disappointed. After that, I really feared the worst.
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Post by space hardware on Dec 18, 2022 12:11:03 GMT 1
Warnock would also have a better relationship with his players. The first thing Fotheringham did after Watford’s first goal was berate Ward. Hardly the actions of a guy trying to inspire his team. But but but but......... the players all love him, don't they?
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Post by Up the Duff. on Dec 18, 2022 12:13:33 GMT 1
Ward linked with Bolton
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 18, 2022 12:22:03 GMT 1
I don't agree when people say he's been given a shit hand. All teams get injuries. When we went to Fulham & won last season 9 of that starting 11 are still at the club. Granted he hasn't had Pearson to work with as yet but Helik is a decent replacement. He's had Turton to work with for a period aswell. Only O'Brien & Toffolo from that team are no longer with us but Camara is a top talent & been tipped for a big money premier league move. You could argue that Toffolo hasn't been replaced but we did bring in a player that would have played at the world cup before his injury with Ruffels & Jackson as cover.
Sarr was replaced by Boyle who's looked solid.
Rudoni has replaced Sinani who looks like a decent replacement but MF can't get a tune out of him.
No way should this team be cut adrift at the bottom of the table.
Bringing in two head coaches with zero experience at any senior level is the main reason why we are where we are.
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Post by alexdire on Dec 18, 2022 12:23:55 GMT 1
A free transfer to get him off of the books? Would it make a difference if he did go? We aren't creating chances and the few we do, he doesn't look like converting. Another sign we are clearing the decks for league one. This rebuilding project is going to be massive. But we won't have any money to carry it out.
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Post by runner76 on Dec 18, 2022 12:25:08 GMT 1
I don't agree when people say he's been given a shit hand. All teams get injuries. When we went to Fulham & won last season 9 of that starting 11 are still at the club. Granted he hasn't had Pearson to work with as yet but Helik is a decent replacement. He's had Turton to work with for a period aswell. Only O'Brien & Toffolo from that team are no longer with us but Camara is a top talent & been tipped for a big money premier league move. You could argue that Toffolo hasn't been replaced but we did bring in a player that would have played at the world cup before his injury with Ruffels & Jackson as cover. Sarr was replaced by Boyle who's looked solid. Rudoni has replaced Sinani who looks like a decent replacement but MF can't get a tune out of him. No way should this team be cut adrift at the bottom of the table. Bringing in two head coaches with zero experience at any senior level is the main reason why we are where we are. Exactly what I was thinking. Time to go.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Dec 18, 2022 12:27:40 GMT 1
When Chico was in charge , just for that very short time, things looked great. Electric atmosphere in the ground, team playing with aggression and positivity etc. Didn't he only have one game in charge? Cardiff at home. We played hoofball, but didn't get caught out trying to play out, neither did we piss about with it across the back. Very direct - but people would have complained about that after a couple of games so being in charge is definitely a lose-lose on here.
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Post by space hardware on Dec 18, 2022 12:28:02 GMT 1
I don't agree when people say he's been given a shit hand. All teams get injuries. When we went to Fulham & won last season 9 of that starting 11 are still at the club. Granted he hasn't had Pearson to work with as yet but Helik is a decent replacement. He's had Turton to work with for a period aswell. Only O'Brien & Toffolo from that team are no longer with us but Camara is a top talent & been tipped for a big money premier league move. You could argue that Toffolo hasn't been replaced but we did bring in a player that would have played at the world cup before his injury with Ruffels & Jackson as cover. Sarr was replaced by Boyle who's looked solid. Rudoni has replaced Sinani who looks like a decent replacement but MF can't get a tune out of him. No way should this team be cut adrift at the bottom of the table. Bringing in two head coaches with zero experience at any senior level is the main reason why we are where we are. Sinani was/is so much better than Rudoni. If, as has been suggested, we had the option to buy Sinani for around the same money as we paid for Rudoni then we've seriously fucked up.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Dec 18, 2022 12:30:25 GMT 1
Didn't he only have one game in charge? Cardiff at home. We played hoofball, but didn't get caught out trying to play out, neither did we piss about with it across the back. Very direct - but people would have complained about that after a couple of games so being in charge is definitely a lose-lose on here. We also had a Nicholls penalty save to thank. It was much improved from Schofield but still plenty of holes to pick at.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Dec 18, 2022 12:36:47 GMT 1
I don't agree when people say he's been given a shit hand. All teams get injuries. When we went to Fulham & won last season 9 of that starting 11 are still at the club. Granted he hasn't had Pearson to work with as yet but Helik is a decent replacement. He's had Turton to work with for a period aswell. Only O'Brien & Toffolo from that team are no longer with us but Camara is a top talent & been tipped for a big money premier league move. You could argue that Toffolo hasn't been replaced but we did bring in a player that would have played at the world cup before his injury with Ruffels & Jackson as cover. Sarr was replaced by Boyle who's looked solid. Rudoni has replaced Sinani who looks like a decent replacement but MF can't get a tune out of him. No way should this team be cut adrift at the bottom of the table. Bringing in two head coaches with zero experience at any senior level is the main reason why we are where we are. Sinani was/is so much better than Rudoni. If, as has been suggested, we had the option to buy Sinani for around the same money as we paid for Rudoni then we've seriously fucked up. It took him 20 games to really get going last season with goals & assists. Over half of Rudoni's games with us has been out of position in the number 8 role. It's poor management decisions & negative tactics that's not helping Rudoni atm.
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Post by royrace on Dec 18, 2022 12:56:26 GMT 1
Nonsense to say nobody would want it, this would be a dream job for many experienced managers. It’s a no lose gamble too, expected to fail anyway. Change now to the right man and we have a slim chance. I find it hard to believe this squad isn’t capable of creating chances if coached in the correct manner. Needs an experienced coach and leader. Warnock would be ideal if he could be persuaded. Quick 6 month gig at a place he knows well with a big bonus if he works a miracle.
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Post by willo on Dec 18, 2022 13:32:52 GMT 1
For those of you who stayed to the end you would have seen Rhodes fire over the bar from a few yards! Wouldn't have made any difference of course. But this summed it up for me. We can't score when we get the chance. We will pass it to someone else rather take on a shot etc. The confidence is rock bottom just as it was before Fotheringham arrived. Watford broke with 5 or six players at speed and our defence isn't good enough to cope. We were lucky to concede only 2! So to all you experts out there who could turn this around? What would a relegation escapolgist like Warnock do? He'd get his team to put as much pressure on the opposition as possible, get them turned around with long balls and rough them up a bit. Not suggesting we go for Warnock but my point is there is a way of playing when you're scrapping at the bottom and we ain't doing it at present. The first thing a Warnock type would do - and he would be my absolute first choice and would have been after Schofield got the boot - is to command some respect from the players, something neither the previous or current manager do. He knows the fan base, knows the Championship and importantly knows how to get teams out of the shit which is absolutely what we are in. He would also get bums back on seats because as it stands, we have a dwindling number prepared to shlepp down to the JSS to watch the dross being served up by a team who have forgotten how to win football matches.
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Post by iangreaves on Dec 18, 2022 13:52:19 GMT 1
Our senior management team have had two goes at picking the right manager this season and we are only half way through it. Is anybody confident they would get a third one right?
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Post by ben1987 on Dec 18, 2022 13:58:32 GMT 1
A free transfer to get him off of the books? Would it make a difference if he did go? We aren't creating chances and the few we do, he doesn't look like converting. Another sign we are clearing the decks for league one. This rebuilding project is going to be massive. But we won't have any money to carry it out. Bromby has been punting him, Rhodes and Holmes about for a few weeks. All about cost cutting now. You make your own mind up what the club are preparing for with 24 games to go. Keep buying your tickets and half season cards though.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Dec 18, 2022 13:59:18 GMT 1
A free transfer to get him off of the books? Would it make a difference if he did go? We aren't creating chances and the few we do, he doesn't look like converting. Another sign we are clearing the decks for league one. This rebuilding project is going to be massive. But we won't have any money to carry it out. Bromby has been punting him, Rhodes and Holmes about for a few weeks. All about cost cutting now. You make your own mind up what the club are preparing for with 24 games to go. Keep buying your tickets and half season cards though. Set of rotten c****
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2022 14:03:36 GMT 1
Warnock, Wagner anyone with good experience and give them a huge bonus for keeping us up.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Dec 18, 2022 14:05:14 GMT 1
Warnock, Wagner anyone with good experience and give them a huge bonus for keeping us up. Too skint for a bonus mate.
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Post by yeovilterrier on Dec 18, 2022 14:06:03 GMT 1
Warnock, Wagner anyone with good experience and give them a huge bonus for keeping us up. Is Fotheringham definitely gone?
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Post by atowninessex on Dec 18, 2022 14:14:00 GMT 1
its already been said we are DOOMED ! unless a miracle happens with our performances and we all know that's highly unlikely in the current climate
who wcould the saviour be its the right time of year
manger wise we all want warnock or wagner but both too much money probably get baldrick or brams with his assistant listz [player wise law and worthington for us oldies but never mind we can all pray and no doubt a good percentage of us will be there next season no matter what
happy christmas everyone
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Post by willo on Dec 18, 2022 14:16:28 GMT 1
A free transfer to get him off of the books? Would it make a difference if he did go? We aren't creating chances and the few we do, he doesn't look like converting. Another sign we are clearing the decks for league one. This rebuilding project is going to be massive. But we won't have any money to carry it out. Bromby has been punting him, Rhodes and Holmes about for a few weeks. All about cost cutting now. You make your own mind up what the club are preparing for with 24 games to go. Keep buying your tickets and half season cards though. The way I see it Ben, I invested in x2 season cards back in March in the full knowledge that outside of being promoted, O’Brien and any other player of value would be gone but we would spend some of the money in replacements and simply go again, as you do. I didn’t foresee CC going because essentially he wouldn’t be backed by the board in the summer transfer market. So my money has been and is long gone. I am not forced to attend games and at this moment in time, am choosing to stay away. Only some positive moves by the club, and by that I mean getting in an experienced Championship manager NOW and supporting him properly in the January window will get me back on a regular basis. We have half(!) the season to go, the situation is still retrievable (I believe) but not by doing nothing. Are we - and by that I mean the hierarchy as well as us fans - really saying despite not yet being in 2023, we have given up the ghost? Staggering if this is the case. If the right man is brought in, we as fans have shown before we will get behind him despite the perilous situation we currently find ourselves in. The right man is not and never was Mark Fotheringham.
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Post by townarentbest on Dec 18, 2022 14:27:06 GMT 1
It seems increasingly like the club has gone dormant, so who would make the decision to sack him anyway..nobody is making any decisive decisions are they. And if he's sacked , and we pay up the 2.5 years ;eft on his contract..who do we bring in that can get a tune out of the broken strings of a squad we have ? So I've said no...there's no point..we look like we're already relegated and come January we won't sign anyone because we'll be 15 points adrift of safety.. I'm curious to know, based on the form of those teams just above us, how we will be 15 points adrift? Minus 12 points for going into admin ?!
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Post by Melc on Dec 18, 2022 14:32:11 GMT 1
Warnock, Wagner anyone with good experience and give them a huge bonus for keeping us up. Yesterday was a real low walking out of the ground, totally given up and looking at relegation as a certainty. I just hope this is really about to happen, if only to raise the chances of us putting up a good fight to try and still stay up, because under a decent coach we could still turn it around.
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Post by willo on Dec 18, 2022 14:39:51 GMT 1
Warnock, Wagner anyone with good experience and give them a huge bonus for keeping us up. Yesterday was a real low walking out of the ground, totally given up and looking at relegation as a certainty. I just hope this is really about to happen, if only to raise the chances of us putting up a good fight to try and still stay up, because under a decent coach we could still turn it around. The right appointment may also turn the fans gaze away from all the off-field problems too.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Dec 18, 2022 14:45:09 GMT 1
I don't agree when people say he's been given a shit hand. All teams get injuries. When we went to Fulham & won last season 9 of that starting 11 are still at the club. Granted he hasn't had Pearson to work with as yet but Helik is a decent replacement. He's had Turton to work with for a period aswell. Only O'Brien & Toffolo from that team are no longer with us but Camara is a top talent & been tipped for a big money premier league move. You could argue that Toffolo hasn't been replaced but we did bring in a player that would have played at the world cup before his injury with Ruffels & Jackson as cover. Sarr was replaced by Boyle who's looked solid. Rudoni has replaced Sinani who looks like a decent replacement but MF can't get a tune out of him. No way should this team be cut adrift at the bottom of the table. Bringing in two head coaches with zero experience at any senior level is the main reason why we are where we are. Sinani was/is so much better than Rudoni. If, as has been suggested, we had the option to buy Sinani for around the same money as we paid for Rudoni then we've seriously fucked up. Agreed, Rudoni is a League One player.
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Post by ringdisco on Dec 18, 2022 14:48:11 GMT 1
Don't really see the point, it would just mean Kenny Miller gets the gig.
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Post by wildhogg on Dec 18, 2022 14:54:24 GMT 1
Warnock and Jeppo obviously wouldn't be a long term option, but it would reinvigorate the dwindling fan base and give us at least fighting chance - even with our distinctly mediocre squad. Hopefully we could get the takeover sorted in the meantime and the a new regime would be able to set us up with a new coach/manager with credentials for 23/24. You'd have to hope that someone of MMF's utter inexperience wasn't promised a huge payout in the case of a quick sacking. Still hard to fathom why MMF was appointed in the first place.
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