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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 10, 2014 15:55:31 GMT 1
I've emailed Jarvis to feedback the utter criapness of it.
Hope many more will do the same.
They will revert to a usual programme IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 16:37:04 GMT 1
Newspapers are all the rage at the moment in the design world. Lots of people returning to editorial/putting out free newspapers to promote their stuff. It's very hip. You only have to look at Matt Willey's redesign of the Independent coupled with a lot of the great design of NYT supplements etc to see how seriously it is all being taken again from an aesthetic point of view. Coupled with the rise of companies such as The Newspaper Club who make it affordable and logistically possible for anyone to do a run of newspapers without any prior knowledge, there's been a real reemergence of the medium. Haven't seen the new Town one but I can certainly see where the idea of turning it into a newspaper came from and why they might have thought it a good idea.
Ultimately if it doesn't satisfy the customer then it's the wrong product.
Can you buy back issues of them (I.e yesterday's)? Alternatively if anyone is going to chuck theirs I'd pay P&P if you fancied sending it me instead. Would be interesting to have a look.
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Post by bridgeterrier on Aug 10, 2014 16:48:06 GMT 1
Can't wait for the wet weather to set in, I'll have to read the entire programme while the match is on because by the time I've walked back up into town the it will be soaked through and useless
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 15:53:22 GMT 1
Can you buy back issues of them (I.e yesterday's)? Alternatively if anyone is going to chuck theirs I'd pay P&P if you fancied sending it me instead. Would be interesting to have a look. There'll be LOADS in the club shop - if they can find a way of storing them ...
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Post by benhomly on Aug 11, 2014 15:57:15 GMT 1
Can you buy back issues of them (I.e yesterday's)? Alternatively if anyone is going to chuck theirs I'd pay P&P if you fancied sending it me instead. Would be interesting to have a look. There'll be LOADS in the club shop - if they can find a way of storing them ... I beg to differ Mansfield - they wanted something disposable so i would think they've chucked them away. In any case they'd be a fire hazard.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 18:03:39 GMT 1
Any chance of doing both.
Like the idea of the paper,something toput in the back pocket but also like the magazine format for quality.
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Post by daveswithy1982 on Aug 11, 2014 18:03:49 GMT 1
Yeah I have mailed smj too. Doubt the club will take any notice though!
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Post by gledholt terrier on Aug 11, 2014 18:51:00 GMT 1
I as a fan didn't ask for cheaper programmes. I would pay £5 for one IF it was a decent read and to be fair last couple years it has been a decent read. £5?!!
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Post by royrace on Aug 11, 2014 19:14:55 GMT 1
I like it, only just been able to face reading it after Saturday but impressed. Easy to carry around in my arse pocket as well which is a plus point and it's just gone nicely in the recycle bin now I've read it. I can see why collectors might be upset but my programme collection was getting silly so they get binned now. Only criticism would be maybe 1.50 would be a better price and THE most important page is the squad listing, let's have a full page, easy to find, easy read, with a decent synopsis on each player and maybe a photo. Maybe the club could do the glossy version for those who like to collect and don't like them getting wet (you can still read a damp newspaper when it's dry?) and the supplement version for the likes of me who wants cheap, easy to carry and read, squad info on the day and a decent read later before binning it.
Think it's a decent bit of out of the box thinking from the club personally.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 11, 2014 21:27:33 GMT 1
It is a decent read, it's just the format! Didn't think there was anything wrong with GUAH, it was easily one of the best programmes in the division!
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Post by kautostar1 on Aug 11, 2014 21:35:40 GMT 1
anyone elses all over the place in terms of half the pages upside down? Yes. Frickin awful. Gave up and threw it in the bin with my empty pint glass. Won't be buying another.
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Post by walkdenterrier on Aug 11, 2014 21:45:20 GMT 1
I as a fan didn't ask for cheaper programmes. I would pay £5 for one IF it was a decent read and to be fair last couple years it has been a decent read. £5?!! You must of loved going to Wembley and paying their rip off prices. £6.00 a go for an England Programme. No chance.
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Post by meraboy on Aug 11, 2014 21:45:41 GMT 1
Comfortably worst idea for a programme we've had in my time supporting since the 80s. Very very poor. I buy about one a year on average and that ain't going to change my mind! The opinion of the fans was not asked to change the programme style and it does look as if it could be part of the 'sustainability' policy which is to be a self sufficient club obviously without the financing of Dean Hoyle. I personally have thousands of programmes going back as far as 1912 and almost everyone since the mid 1950's and have never seen anything anywhere else like the crap sold on Saturday. It was printed by the Mirror Press which means it's a tie up with the 'Examiner' lot. We have had a an 'over the top' style programme for a number of years which must be costly and is not necessary. The club could change back to the 60's style programme which could be produced for under 50p and be sold for £2 making a healthy profit for the club and be quite acceptable. what is a fact is that it's stopped my collecting days for home programmes and will make us a laughing stock in the Championship.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 21:57:55 GMT 1
On a brighter note the programme doesn't look as bad today. Just read it and although I don't like the newspaper format I thought the content was OK. Looking at the sponsor page I bet Calderdale carpets are gutted today Then just put the content into a small glossy. Everybody's happy!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 22:06:30 GMT 1
So simple.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 22:18:31 GMT 1
Like I said - newspapers are big in the design world
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Post by neilterrier on Aug 11, 2014 22:58:17 GMT 1
For many years one of the normal things that you do when attending a football match is buy a programme. A programme for many people acts as a memento of the game and adds to their collection. Most fans over the age of 30 know that people collect football programmes. In this age of corporate football it now seems that Huddersfield Town are just not interested in the tradition of the game. As a season ticket holder for many years I am insulted that the club have replaced a collectable programme with a tacky news paper. Most on this site think that Dean Hoyle is God - I think he is allowing this club to sink to despairing levels by allowing his modern corporate employees who clearly know nothing about what a normal working class fan expects when visiting a football match, to dictate policy and make bloody stupid decisions like this. You may well have put in the money Dean - but so have your loyal season ticket holders. We may not be millionaires but collectively we spend millions every year and frankly deserve better.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 23:13:25 GMT 1
Like I said - newspapers are big in the design world A hipster in a St. Pauli hoodie's approval does not negate the tsunami of disapproval by those who pay and read the thing - i.e. the target market
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 23:18:09 GMT 1
Like I said - newspapers are big in the design world A hipster in a St. Pauli hoodie's approval does not negate the tsunami of disapproval by those who pay and read the thing - i.e. the target market I also said I was more trying explore their possible train of thought when switching.
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 11, 2014 23:23:58 GMT 1
Stopped buying it when the price went up to £3. It 'was' very well produced but £3 for something full of stuff i've already read in the examiner or pages of tedious stats and interviews with players giving endless mundane replies straight out of the official- 'how to answer an predictable question with an equally predictable answer' handbook.
Thought for a while, they should just make it about 15 pages, stick to basic things- managers comments, basic season stats, a double page on the opposition, something about the reserves/academy, a quiz, face in the crowd. leave it at that. Basically just something to read just before the game and at half time. Doesn't need colour ophotos- if I want to see a player in col.our, i'll look at him on the pitch right in front of me. Make it a quid.
Thought the newspaper idea was a dreadfull idea. other clubs like Preston tried it in the late 70s and it never took off then either. people buy a programme as a souvenir- something to keep. No ones going to keep a bloody huge pile of newspaper in their house! And for £2 !!
They need to think again sharpish
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Post by York Terrier on Aug 11, 2014 23:28:43 GMT 1
One word CRAP sales will fall off a cliff more chance of MR coming back than this load of rubbish lasting
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 11, 2014 23:33:17 GMT 1
As soon as they right one wrong (restoring the canine properties of the mascot) they put a wrong in its place. (The GUAH newspaper) Oh and the faded shirt.... Oh and sacking the manager one game in after effectively wasting the preseason. Oh, and the silly nonsense around the ladies team.....
What a weird time to be a terrier
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 11, 2014 23:38:45 GMT 1
don't get me started on the bloody awful shirt!
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Post by benhomly on Aug 11, 2014 23:56:01 GMT 1
The fact that a thread about the programme has remained at the top of page 1 of DATM considering everything else that has gone on in the last few days shows what a huge gaff our club has made. I'm shocked how out of touch they seem at times. Come on Town sort it out.
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Post by Five Lamps on Aug 12, 2014 0:01:54 GMT 1
Pros- Exclusive content not found elsewhere – the stadium article, while not extensive or ovely-enthralling, did feel slightly more special knowing that it's exclusive to the programme I just spent £2 on.
- A quid saved.
- A decent-sized portion for visiting fans – having a column written by a Bournemouth Echo journalist is a nice touch, although the rest seems more of an overview of players/the manager that you'd expect from a regular programme.
- Bigger poster for the kids.
- The art direction and layout is generally pretty decent.
- The club trying something modern and provocative (for football, albeit now slightly tiresome as a current design trend), at least as an experiment that the club can say they've tried, if ultimately reverting back to a "regular" programme.
Cons- The front cover distinctly reminds me of Loud And Quiet, a free newspaper which is more visually exciting and better written than GUAH (different subject matters, and only an opinion), which makes me question the value of this programme at £2 when something similar but better can be free.
- Almost identical photographs of Radi Majewski used on the front cover, contents page, and three times within the article itself. Some visual variation would be nice.
- Plenty of typesetting errors – rivers in the justified text could have been sorted by aligning the bottom line of each paragraph to the left; hanging punctuation really should have been used; the drop caps (and the spacing around them) are a bit ugly. The layout is quite nicely done, it's just various typesetting errors that are annoying, but too easy to pick at.
- No discernible traditional team list, or at least not one in the place(s) you'd be expecting (mostly thanks to the dual-front cover).
- Yorkshiremen don't like change and will probably never stop moaning about how this can be a £2 newspaper when the Sun's 40p.
- Shit outta luck if it pisses it down.
- Spelling mistake on the contents page – "GUAH examins [sic] his career". Sack the proofreader!
- And worst of all... the print quality makes the small 'Spot the Difference' puzzle really difficult
In short, I think it's good that the club are trying something different and provocative. But I think the trend of newspapers is already becoming a bit tiresome, and the majority of traditional football fans who are used to "regular" programmes are generally unlikely to take to the new GUAH. Inevitably it will transfer back to it's previous format at some point in the future, but I don't know how long the club are likely to persevere with the newspaper format. What would the reaction be after a full season of paper? Would people take to it, or tire of it?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 0:16:31 GMT 1
Pros- Exclusive content not found elsewhere – the stadium article, while not extensive or ovely-enthralling, did feel slightly more special knowing that it's exclusive to the programme I just spent £2 on.
- A quid saved.
- A decent-sized portion for visiting fans – having a column written by a Bournemouth Echo journalist is a nice touch, although the rest seems more of an overview of players/the manager that you'd expect from a regular programme.
- Bigger poster for the kids.
- The art direction and layout is generally pretty decent.
- The club trying something modern and provocative (for football, albeit now slightly tiresome as a current design trend), at least as an experiment that the club can say they've tried, if ultimately reverting back to a "regular" programme.
Cons- The front cover distinctly reminds me of Loud And Quiet, a free newspaper which is more visually exciting and better written than GUAH (different subject matters, and only an opinion), which makes me question the value of this programme at £2 when something similar but better can be free.
- Almost identical photographs of Radi Majewski used on the front cover, contents page, and three times within the article itself. Some visual variation would be nice.
- Plenty of typesetting errors – rivers in the justified text could have been sorted by aligning the bottom line of each paragraph to the left; hanging punctuation really should have been used; the drop caps (and the spacing around them) are a bit ugly. The layout is quite nicely done, it's just various typesetting errors that are annoying, but too easy to pick at.
- No discernible traditional team list, or at least not one in the place(s) you'd be expecting (mostly thanks to the dual-front cover).
- Yorkshiremen don't like change and will probably never stop moaning about how this can be a £2 newspaper when the Sun's 40p.
- Shit outta luck if it pisses it down.
- Spelling mistake on the contents page – "GUAH examins [sic] his career". Sack the proofreader!
- And worst of all... the print quality makes the small 'Spot the Difference' puzzle really difficult
In short, I think it's good that the club are trying something different and provocative. But I think the trend of newspapers is already becoming a bit tiresome, and the majority of traditional football fans who are used to "regular" programmes are generally unlikely to take to the new GUAH. Inevitably it will transfer back to it's previous format at some point in the future, but I don't know how long the club are likely to persevere with the newspaper format. What would the reaction be after a full season of paper? Would people take to it, or tire of it? Do you believe for one second that the decision to go to a newspaper format was one based on art school trends? That the new programme is somehow a carefully thought out statement that positions Town as the darlings of Hoxton? Or... did Trinity Mirror say "'ere, we've a shed load of press and sales force capacity. How's about we churn a load out for nowt, on the proviso we take a cut of advertising sales?'
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 12, 2014 0:26:55 GMT 1
Don't think I ll buy another!
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Post by Five Lamps on Aug 12, 2014 0:43:20 GMT 1
In short, I think it's good that the club are trying something different and provocative.Do you believe for one second that the decision to go to a newspaper format was one based on art school trends? That the new programme is somehow a carefully thought out statement that positions Town as the darlings of Hoxton? Or... did Trinity Mirror say "'ere, we've a shed load of press and sales force capacity. How's about we churn a load out for nowt, on the proviso we take a cut of advertising sales?' I think you've got the wrong end of the stick there. Pardon my 'darlings of Hoxton' generalisations, but I'm not exactly asserting that the Communications Department are sat around listening to a Kurt Vile LP in their normcore knitwear, trying desperately not to spill their craft beer on their newspapers, with the one pure intention of making some kind of vague statement with these. Sure, newspapers are cheap to produce in bulk, that fits in with the ATT panel results, and is clearly the huge functional reason of why these new tabloid programmes have been implemented, but I still doubt that the Club would have actually chosen to produce them over the previous format of programmes had there not been a recent trend for newspapers outside of the sport. The fact that this is somewhat radical for a football programme will be churned out as a positive by the club, I bet.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 12, 2014 7:31:46 GMT 1
Saturdays programme, Mondays chip paper.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2014 9:06:48 GMT 1
If they include a page 3 Terrier Totty it may be worth a read
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