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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 17:45:22 GMT 1
yes. the girl in question wont appear in the sun till she is 16 and 'telling all'...she might get on good morning and reach the big 'brain dead' audience.. she is too late for big brother... as stated, Max Clifford would love this and make a bomb, unfortunately!!!! I doubt very much whether Max Clifford will be making a bomb out of this, or any other similar scenario, ever again!
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 23, 2015 17:48:50 GMT 1
that's the 'unfortunately' bit at the end?
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 23, 2015 17:53:27 GMT 1
btw, my posts on this are the same as the ched evans ones.. they are not meant in any way to show my opinion to the actual truth of the incident, I wasn't there, there is nobody involved who I know well and trust.... this may well be another one where nobody comes out of it unblemished and the winners are the legal teams..
wether we get to the truth in todays government/ media led circus of criminal prosecutions is another matter..
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Post by 3Pipe on Apr 23, 2015 20:46:42 GMT 1
3 pipe it means he has been charged, that's all.. I know, there was a bit of a clue in the first line of the article I linked to... "England and Sunderland footballer Adam Johnson has been charged with three counts of sexual activity with a 15-year-old girl."
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Post by COWleySHED on Apr 23, 2015 21:38:12 GMT 1
I'm as surprised that AJ had a loaded gun at home!!! Is that the latest must have ''accessory'' for footballers these days? Re his arrest, there's not much to discuss until some details flesh out the incident. The CE thread went to the amount of pages it did because of the detail available publicly. I thought aj was in trouble cos this minor off loaded his gun
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Post by ram on Apr 24, 2015 11:14:21 GMT 1
He looks too much like George Osbourn to be innocent!
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Post by teddytheterrier on Apr 24, 2015 11:24:58 GMT 1
Really hope he doesn't turn out to be a nonce, cheered this guy on many times at sunderland games!
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Post by impact on Apr 24, 2015 14:32:52 GMT 1
I didn't realise it was over 2 months. Just thought it was 1 occasion. To me that's too long to be mistaken, whether they met in a club or not.
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Post by Amigo on Apr 24, 2015 14:41:39 GMT 1
I didn't realise it was over 2 months. Just thought it was 1 occasion. To me that's too long to be mistaken, whether they met in a club or not. Agree. Without knowing the full details but from what I can gather, you meet one night in a club you've had a few and in my opinion it's sometimes difficult to judge, you meet a few times sober and it's a lot more clear whether someone is too young and it starts to look pretty bad.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Apr 24, 2015 14:44:40 GMT 1
I didn't realise it was over 2 months. Just thought it was 1 occasion. To me that's too long to be mistaken, whether they met in a club or not. Agree. Without knowing the full details but from what I can gather, you meet one night in a club you've had a few and in my opinion it's sometimes difficult to judge, you meet a few times sober and it's a lot more clear whether someone is too young and it starts to look pretty bad. While neither condoning or condemning Johnson before due process, have you seen a picture of this girl? She looks MUCH older than 15. But then I don't know if Johnson knew her age at any point.
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Post by Amigo on Apr 24, 2015 15:24:44 GMT 1
Agree. Without knowing the full details but from what I can gather, you meet one night in a club you've had a few and in my opinion it's sometimes difficult to judge, you meet a few times sober and it's a lot more clear whether someone is too young and it starts to look pretty bad. While neither condoning or condemning Johnson before due process, have you seen a picture of this girl? She looks MUCH older than 15. But then I don't know if Johnson knew her age at any point. I've not seen a photo, the only one I saw flying around twitter that everyone was claiming to be her was actually his wife a few years ago. It's not just looks though, even by talking to someone you can have a good idea how old they are.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 24, 2015 15:25:12 GMT 1
while neither condoning or condemning the papers have had a right good look at this and are already using 'Saville/hall and glitter' in the same context as this one.. 12 cases so far in west Yorkshire this year of the same offence, 10 have resulted in adult cautions, 2 were not admitted and were left due to the 'public interest' not being served taking it further.. its a pretty fair guess that had the other 10 not been admitted they may well have been dropped.. nobody famous involved? its becoming a very sticky wicket out there..
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Post by sabailand on Apr 24, 2015 19:01:55 GMT 1
lol serves him right,and a probable paedo record to boot,silly twat.
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Post by Tinpot on Apr 24, 2015 22:44:24 GMT 1
Agree. Without knowing the full details but from what I can gather, you meet one night in a club you've had a few and in my opinion it's sometimes difficult to judge, you meet a few times sober and it's a lot more clear whether someone is too young and it starts to look pretty bad. While neither condoning or condemning Johnson before due process, have you seen a picture of this girl? She looks MUCH older than 15. But then I don't know if Johnson knew her age at any point. The girl has the legal right to anonymity. If that picture really was her (I saw the picture as well) then somebody is going to be in a lot of trouble.
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Post by gledholt terrier on Apr 25, 2015 7:53:32 GMT 1
While neither condoning or condemning Johnson before due process, have you seen a picture of this girl? She looks MUCH older than 15. But then I don't know if Johnson knew her age at any point. The girl has the legal right to anonymity. If that picture really was her (I saw the picture as well) then somebody is going to be in a lot of trouble. You're right and as someone pointed out up thread it probably isn't her anyway - and pretty stupid of me to be duped by it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 13:10:47 GMT 1
I am not going to defend the guy but I have known girls under 14 who could pass as 18 all day. I remember a girl in school who was dating an older guy and even at 13 she could pass as 18 easily physically.
When it comes to telling someone's age from talking to them, with some people you would at least be suspicious, but not with everyone.
I have no clue if he knew she was under age or not, it's wrong either way, but if you are in an adult environment, and someone looks and acts like an adult I can understand how it could happen.
His name should not be released until he is proven guilty that's for sure. Why? Most people on this thread have convicted him already and the facts are not known.
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Post by Grizz on Apr 26, 2015 14:18:18 GMT 1
Come on. If someone is in a club late (or in a club at all) you're going to assume they're old enough. When i was young and still sneaking into night clubs with other people's id the girls who we went with us looked older than quite a few of the women in there so i don't expect someone to know unless they genuinely say how old they are. the girls who we went out with often lied about there age and im guessing many of them do so how is someone meant to know unless they say?
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Post by Barbieterrier on Apr 28, 2015 14:39:53 GMT 1
Come on. If someone is in a club late (or in a club at all) you're going to assume they're old enough. When i was young and still sneaking into night clubs with other people's id the girls who we went with us looked older than quite a few of the women in there so i don't expect someone to know unless they genuinely say how old they are. the girls who we went out with often lied about there age and im guessing many of them do so how is someone meant to know unless they say? Ignorance isn't an acceptable reason in the eyes of the law though. The club has a responsibility to confirm the girls age. Just because they don't adequately doesn't mean the law thinks it's acceptable if AJ doesn't. If that's the circumstances around this.
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