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Post by bro600 on Apr 19, 2015 15:08:57 GMT 1
It was quoted in one of the threads from yesterday.. Robins said he was too small..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 15:11:12 GMT 1
For those that didn't go - there wasn't much ground breaking news to speak of but i'd say the major difference from the previous Q and A was Dean was much more relaxed and affable. Seemed to have more of his old bullish positivity back (if not quite the same old ambition) This is a big thing cos at the previous Q and A I got the distinct impression that the end was nye
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Post by Headless Chicken on Apr 19, 2015 15:14:10 GMT 1
Totally agree the defence needs sorting and we should look to extend James' time with us. However, I wouldn't say James has made that much difference defensively and I have absolutely no comprehension of using the final 8 games to put a proven defence together. Eh. Just been trying to work out if the 4-4 was mainly down to quality strikes or shit defences. What's baffling me is you expect him to put together a 'proven' defence for the last eight games of the season if we don't have the personnel now?
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 19, 2015 15:17:06 GMT 1
We seem to have two extremes here. Those who think the season as been poor for the most part and those who think its been a good season. Its probably somewhere in between but has fallen below Hoyle's hopes/expectations. As KennyK2 said above, for those of us who couldn't make to yesterday's Q & A, was there anything else said that hasn't been reported already? Did he mention anything about the seemingly defunct "Pathways" and the lack of opportunities for the development of the kids? I don't agree; I don't think hardly anyone is saying it's been a 'good' season. You just end up sounding like a so called happy clapper constantly having to respond to those that are never going to be happy. That's what some posters are saying, there seems to be some consensus that it's been enjoyable, for me it hasn't, its been poor, even worse than last season, mainly I was bored last season, this I've been bored and appalled at some performances. Although the last few weeks has seen an upturn in form which will add a sheen of respectability. The acid test for me though is the summer transfer activity and how we start next season, whether Powell can adopt more attacking style.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 19, 2015 15:20:32 GMT 1
It was quoted in one of the threads from yesterday.. Robins said he was too small.. That is why he is managing Scunthorpe United in League One. He was on the FLS, complaining about his team, typical I thought, nearly put my foot through the screen, I cannot abide the man.
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Post by htfc63 on Apr 19, 2015 15:23:22 GMT 1
Yes its true that he said Pritchard was vetoed by Robins who thought he was too small. It just shows that with the right manager you can have a significant impact on the squad as Pritchard is the catalyst for 90 % of the good you see from Brentford. I thought Dean was extremely upbeat and cannot wait to start see the squad being added to as soon as the season ends. This year saw us have issues due to a manager (Robins)not being up the job and failing to build a good enough squad. Equally Powell inherited a lot of dead wood and some individuals causing dissent in the camp. These issues have now been resolved so the ground is prepared for us to bring in some players who will help push us on next season. We still have Rad to go back to Forest and hopefully Edgar will not be retained so that gives us even more scope. Let`s hope someone steps in for Hamill or we can get him out on a long term loan. I think we should look forward with optimism as its clear Dean and the board are doing the right things to make us a sustainable and competitive championship side.
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Post by wtd on Apr 19, 2015 15:30:45 GMT 1
It was quoted in one of the threads from yesterday.. Robins said he was too small.. 'Cos Majewski is huge, isn't he? FFS, Robins!!!
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Post by Headless Chicken on Apr 19, 2015 15:36:16 GMT 1
That's what some posters are saying, there seems to be some consensus that it's been enjoyable, for me it hasn't, its been poor, even worse than last season, mainly I was bored last season, this I've been bored and appalled at some performances. Although the last few weeks has seen an upturn in form which will add a sheen of respectability. The acid test for me though is the summer transfer activity and how we start next season, whether Powell can adopt more attacking style. For me it's been average- I can't comprehend how anyone can get too excited overall, but I also can't comprehend your view. My only real gripe was resting Butterfield and Scannell v Reading in the cup. A big mistake both for the match and the message it sent. NB- They can come on and disagree, but I don't think Doc or Cod are saying everything is rosey either.
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Post by shawsie on Apr 19, 2015 15:38:37 GMT 1
It was quoted in one of the threads from yesterday.. Robins said he was too small.. 'Cos Majewski is huge, isn't he? FFS, Robins!!! Robins was a useless buffoon towards the end of his tenure here and part of me thinks he set out to go! After all he has form!!!! Pritchard too small but brings in radi? Crooks a championship centre back? Peltier brought in and never played in his best position? No striker brought in to assist wells and Vaughan? Hamill at wing back? Several players saying it was a shambles behind the scenes.....the list goes on! Bournemouth are clearly a good side but the capitulation and white flag waving on the pitch followed by his walking immediately after sum him up! Weak and not up to it!
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Apr 19, 2015 15:59:20 GMT 1
Is it true Dean said Alex Pritchard was coming to town but Mark Robins stopped it because he thought Pritchard was too small It is true that Dean SAID we could have had Pritchard but Robins vetoed it. Blimey I always thought Mark Robins strength was having the ability too spot a good player
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Post by rocky on Apr 19, 2015 16:02:08 GMT 1
For me it's been average- I can't comprehend how anyone can get too excited overall, but I also can't comprehend your view. My only real gripe was resting Butterfield and Scannell v Reading in the cup. A big mistake both for the match and the message it sent. NB- They can come on and disagree, but I don't think Doc or Cod are saying everything is rosey either. I don't think anyone would go that far, but for me, it's been a reasonably decent season (especially after a shocking start), with quite a few highlights. We've taken points off all the top 8 bar Middlesbrough, including beating 3 of them & coming within seconds of beating another. Also, we've always scored more goals than our league position would suggest, which totally disproves the ridiculous notion that CP is a negative manager. Add to that we're much further away from the bottom 3 (points wise) compared to the other 2 seasons in the Championship & overall, there are reasons to be optimistic.
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Post by ruud1boy on Apr 19, 2015 16:20:06 GMT 1
The defence were an absolute load of shite before Reece James came on the scene. His inclusion seems to have brought the best out of Hudson.I would have much preferred Powell to use the final 8 games of the season to put together a proven defence that comes up to championship standard , and " all players " were available to start next season. I don't know if it were possible to give James a contract extension , as then Powell could use the close season to tweak any obvious weaknesses. Totally agree the defence needs sorting and we should look to extend James' time with us. However, I wouldn't say James has made that much difference defensively and I have absolutely no comprehension of using the final 8 games to put a proven defence together. Eh. Don't worry, I don't think Sugy knows what he's talking about most of the time.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Apr 19, 2015 16:35:18 GMT 1
'Cos Majewski is huge, isn't he? FFS, Robins!!! Robins was a useless buffoon towards the end of his tenure here and part of me thinks he set out to go! After all he has form!!!! Pritchard too small but brings in radi? Crooks a championship centre back? Peltier brought in and never played in his best position? No striker brought in to assist wells and Vaughan? Hamill at wing back? Several players saying it was a shambles behind the scenes.....the list goes on! Bournemouth are clearly a good side but the capitulation and white flag waving on the pitch followed by his walking immediately after sum him up! Weak and not up to it! Perfect summing up of Robins demise, talked a good fight but ultimately out of his depth. Jury is still out on Powell for me until we see what kind of squad he puts together in the summer and if we come out playing as we have in the last few games at the start of next season.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Apr 19, 2015 16:40:11 GMT 1
Glad to hear Dean Hoyle sounds to have got some of his enthusiasm back. I was at the last Q&A he did a few months ago and he seemed pretty fed up then. After the start we had to this season it hasn't worked out too badly at all. Personally, I've seen far more poor than good performances this season, but I think I've just been unlucky in the games I've been to! Bad choices by me.......now do I make Blackburn or not? Overall, I think Chris Powell deserves a 6 out of 10 for me. Looking forward to the summer now and the usual Summer threads.........the ins and outs, the new strips etc etc........there's always next season!
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Apr 19, 2015 17:06:44 GMT 1
That's what some posters are saying, there seems to be some consensus that it's been enjoyable, for me it hasn't, its been poor, even worse than last season, mainly I was bored last season, this I've been bored and appalled at some performances. Although the last few weeks has seen an upturn in form which will add a sheen of respectability. The acid test for me though is the summer transfer activity and how we start next season, whether Powell can adopt more attacking style.[/b] pretty attacking yesterday but then again we had 'nothing to win or lose'
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 19, 2015 17:08:52 GMT 1
That's what some posters are saying, there seems to be some consensus that it's been enjoyable, for me it hasn't, its been poor, even worse than last season, mainly I was bored last season, this I've been bored and appalled at some performances. Although the last few weeks has seen an upturn in form which will add a sheen of respectability. The acid test for me though is the summer transfer activity and how we start next season, whether Powell can adopt more attacking style.[/b] pretty attacking yesterday but then again we had 'nothing to win or lose'[/quote] Like I said earlier though, its a shame that we've had to wait until April for such an attacking game from us.
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Post by dewsburyterrier on Apr 19, 2015 17:36:05 GMT 1
Alex Pritchard 1.71 metres Mark Robins 1.73 metres Lionel Messi 1.70 metres
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Post by pixie on Apr 19, 2015 18:04:49 GMT 1
Alex Pritchard 1.71 metres Mark Robins 1.73 metres Lionel Messi 1.70 metres Let's have less of this EU talk. What's their height in feet and inches?
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Post by Amigo on Apr 19, 2015 18:31:11 GMT 1
[/b] pretty attacking yesterday but then again we had 'nothing to win or lose'[/quote] Like I said earlier though, its a shame that we've had to wait until April for such an attacking game from us. [/quote] 4th highest chances created in the league and in the top half for the most goals with one of the smallest budgets. Those are FACTS not blinkered opinion.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 19, 2015 19:06:34 GMT 1
Any comment saying CP is a negative manager (or something similar) is just total bullshit & completely ignores the facts. We're 11th in the goals scored table, which says it all. True, there are dour games from time to time, but they are much in the minority. Some people seem to focus only on the negatives, whilst completely ignoring the positives, as that suits their agenda of slating the club at every opportunity. Thats spot on. Every season there are lousy games and yes weve had a few this time too. Some fans have an agenda to try and believe most games are dross though- probably because they started out with the opinion Powell is a negative manager so will twist what they can to be shown to be right. So any game that isn't a thriller becomes dross. Any tight game of few chances becomes dross. Its bollocks really. The biggest dross this season has been the posts of arterrier. Casn't help thinking he'll be gutted we're looking like having our best final position since 2000, and one of the best since 1971.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 19, 2015 19:11:07 GMT 1
pretty attacking yesterday but then again we had 'nothing to win or lose Like I said earlier though, its a shame that we've had to wait until April for such an attacking game from us. Yesterday you said we were 'too conservative, as seen today', and now we were 'pretty attacking and its a shame weve had to wait until April to see it.' You can't even be consistent with your bullshit.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Apr 19, 2015 19:11:24 GMT 1
I like Arterrier but he's cranked up the misery o meter to 11 recently ...calling yesterday " conservative " just baffles beyond belief...
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 19, 2015 19:14:17 GMT 1
Hes hated this season. If we ( and the club) are lucky he'll find a different hobby he can enjoy more.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 19:16:38 GMT 1
Leeds Rotherham Norwich away, were not dross. I was there & you are wrong. We folded in the end after good performances. I was at Leeds and Norwich. We were poor in both games and never approached being good at any stage. I could not describe 1st half of those two as dross. Norwich 10 men, what do you expect? Leeds, again, we were OK until 2nd half. Just because we lost does not make it universally dross in opinion, nor does a capitulation.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 19, 2015 19:17:26 GMT 1
pretty attacking yesterday but then again we had 'nothing to win or lose Like I said earlier though, its a shame that we've had to wait until April for such an attacking game from us. Yesterday you said we were 'too conservative, as seen today', and now we were 'pretty attacking and its a shame weve had to wait until April to see it.' You can't even be consistent with your bullshit. I was referring to the lack of support from midfield to the front two.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 19:18:52 GMT 1
I like Arterrier but he's cranked up the misery o meter to 11 recently ...calling yesterday " conservative " just baffles beyond belief... I'd rather the performances be Conservative than Laboured.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 19, 2015 19:20:55 GMT 1
Hes hated this season. If we ( and the club) are lucky he'll find a different hobby he can enjoy more. Its been crap in the main, whether you think it hasn't or not. You thought the Leeds home game was 'exciting', which I still find strange. It was akin to watching paint dry as have upmteen games this season. You should start watching them away, then you might appreciate how poor it cam be at times.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 19, 2015 19:22:31 GMT 1
I was at Leeds and Norwich. We were poor in both games and never approached being good at any stage. I could not describe 1st half of those two as dross. Norwich 10 men, what do you expect? Leeds, again, we were OK until 2nd half. Just because we lost does not make it universally dross in opinion, nor does a capitulation. How can a 5-0 defeat be described as anything but dross?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2015 19:25:22 GMT 1
Leeds Rotherham Norwich away, were not dross. I was there & you are wrong. We folded in the end after good performances. I was referring to Rotherham at home, although the away performance weren't upto much either. Norwich, we got tonked 5-0 and Leeds away was garbage. My definition of dross and yours is poles apart. Some Town fans are easily pleased. It has nothing to do with being easily pleased. It is often possible to see good aspects within a poor result. If I could not see & appreciate the good aspects in a loss, or draw at Rotherham; after reading your posts on a loss I would be more inclined to commit suicide than go to another match! Fortunately, I am not so easily influenced by people spouting negative crap.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 19, 2015 19:25:53 GMT 1
Don't get to way games much now and only been to one this season. But the home games have in the main been entertaining and weve had a go with quite a few of them being crackers to watch. A few stinkers but no different from any other season and a lot better than many. I said the Leeds game was a low quality affair, as derbys often are, but the fact it was tight and against Leeds made it exciting. If you don't enjoy it anymore, stop going.
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