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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 22:06:21 GMT 1
I'm late to this thread (don't sign on DATM that much in the summer - I get irritated by the pre-pubescents who pretend they are in the know). With regard to the wide-scale introduction of booking fees part of me is relieved that I’m no-longer being targeted simply because I live outside of Huddersfield and travel to away games. However, whilst I recognise the fact that the business is loss-making and either revenue has to be raised or costs cut I struggle to accept that booking fees are the most fair or appropriate method of raising revenue. It is a method which is to a degree “petty and underhand” and it certainly seems targeted on away supporters and those who cannot attend regularly enough to justify a season ticket. Whilst the cost of football is simply too high full-stop, relatively speaking a season-ticket represents decent value. The same simply cannot be said for away tickets and those acquired on a one off basis. With this in mind it seems wholly inappropriate to me for the business to choose to increase the cost of these tickets even further. I can see the argument that DH’s share of the budget should be reduced, but feel it would be more appropriate for this to be shared more equally over the whole supporting base rather than such a small sector (who are already paying way over the top for attendance at those games). The football industry seems to me to generally undervalue travelling supporters and the positive impact they have on atmosphere and the improvement in the football experience for everyone. I think you could produce a very strong argument to say the cost of travelling away is already far too high and should be reduced and I’m perplexed our club is choosing to load even more cost on this area of supporters. On the subject of cutting costs, it quite simply baffles me that clubs outside the Premier league don’t work together to reduce their playing staff costs by salary caps, “luxury” tax or some such means – this would have a far far greater impact that any number of Clibbens’ shady practices. Your sentiments are fine, but your logic is flawed. The reason away fans have to pay more, i.e. no FREE options is because the costs to Town are higher and margins are lower. The 5% margin on away tickets is a joke; if want to criticise something then criticise that and put pressure on the FL to require away ticket revenue to shared more equitably. The FA require for the FA Cup a 50:50 split on revenue, somewhere in between would be realistic.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 22:20:29 GMT 1
I have that faith, would much prefer the club as it is run now than at ANY time since I started watching in 1969 I like the basic sentiment of your post and fully agree that DH is choosing the right approach with regard to the club's growth. However on a more general point, I'd struggle to disagree more with your comments about the way the club is run. More that at any point since 1970, I feel Huddersfield Town has ceased to be a club but is simply a business and at times is a being being run badly (e.g. the Blackburn under-pricing fiasco) or with practices that even the majority of businesses wouldn't adopt because they were unfair and customers of a "normal" business wouldn't tolerate them (booking fees per ticket is a good example). I don't view it as a coincidence that 75% of our board are not "dyed in the wool" Town supporters from an early age. Rather than being one of us as supporters, to them we appear simply customers of the business that the currently happen to work for. It's just we happen to be more loyal than customers of a "normal" business and they choose to take advantage of that fact. It has to be run like a business, it makes a 5 million loss per year in order to try and achieve a higher league position than the supporters can fund. You can't run at such losses on a sentimental basis, administration would result and administrators are the most hard nosed business people you will ever have the displeasure of experiencing, so be careful what you wish for. Anybody can make a mistake, show a bit more tolerance.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Aug 6, 2015 11:31:05 GMT 1
(Anyone can make a mistake, show a bit more tolerance. )Please explain what mistakes have been made in your eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 12:26:52 GMT 1
(Anyone can make a mistake, show a bit more tolerance. )Please explain what mistakes have been made in your eyes. Not my role, others have made the crisisms, I am saying - who doesn't, show more tolerance - if you are a 'supporter'.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Aug 6, 2015 13:02:43 GMT 1
Not my role, you write as if you work for the club. I've read this whole post and find you are the one that lacks tolerance, people come on this site because they are town fans and want to chat . You tell them they are not wanted as supporters etc, their idiots etc. in your position as just a fan. Everyone as just as much of an opinion as you, for some reason it seems you feel you are more important. SO MAYBE ITS YOU THAT LACKS TOLERANCE.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2015 13:39:21 GMT 1
Not my role, you write as if you work for the club. I've read this whole post and find you are the one that lacks tolerance, people come on this site because they are town fans and want to chat . You tell them they are not wanted as supporters etc, their idiots etc. in your position as just a fan. Everyone as just as much of an opinion as you, for some reason it seems you feel you are more important. SO MAYBE ITS YOU THAT LACKS TOLERANCE. It is a matter of perspective, if you haven't got it, tough. If you have you will see I am intolerant of lies, misrepresentation, stupidity and idiots; and you would agree with me. Tolerance is for mistakes, misunderstandings, lack of knowledge etc. A fine line needs to walked with some, but in the main it is plain to see, try reading again. (My only connection with the club is as an understanding supporter)
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Post by brighousebandbred on Aug 6, 2015 15:32:56 GMT 1
Lol .
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Post by brighousebandbred on Aug 16, 2015 9:04:34 GMT 1
11,000? Just the start of reduced crowds, because the pricing is going mental with pay on the day customers. No away fans, then no pay on the day fans hardly. Long term stupidity, potential for generations of lost supporters at this rate.
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Post by wtd on Aug 16, 2015 9:07:05 GMT 1
I agree the pricing is too much for pay on the day customers, but the size of the crowd yesterday will have been affected by folk being away on holiday too, remember.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Aug 16, 2015 13:24:17 GMT 1
I agree with that but 10000 home fans for the 1st league home game is not good.
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Post by joehappy on Aug 16, 2015 13:47:03 GMT 1
I agree with that but 10000 home fans for the 1st league home game is not good. Almost 2000 Town fans down on opening fixture last year. So the club must question their pricing asap
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