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Post by bizkit on Oct 18, 2015 11:36:43 GMT 1
We need him back to play up front. Now it's not often I would agree with one of your posts, but I think, this time, you are on to something. If Lolley's problem is giving the ball away, or poor defending, use him as a solution for our Striker situation. Play him alongside Nahki and give Miller a rest. He doesn't need to last the full 90. He could start or come off the bench, but his "trickery" and shooting (from outside the area) might be just what we need up front. Harry has been okay in the No. 10 role, but I think he sometimes lacks the finishing touch. Someone else, on here, suggested playing Lynch up front and I don't think that is as mad as it sounds either. It gives us something different to what we have and Joel certainly has the ability to do it. So rather than keep Hudson on the bench, chuck Joel up front with either Miller, Wells or Vaughan. Sometimes you just need to think outside of the box. TTID I would also like to see him getting a run of games with Wells. I sometimes wonder if giving a youth more of a chance at times, might achieve better then letting them stagnate and waiting for a period where we are safe before possibly trying them out, other clubs do. Yes I do understand how competitive and difficult this league is, but how else are any promising players going we learn?
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Post by 5kippy on Oct 19, 2015 8:24:03 GMT 1
With our U21's & U18's firing on all cylinders, now would be the time to bring 4 or 5 through at the same time as per the old Man U team. It's no good getting them in for a "bit-part" when they have no idea how the first team play. But if they come into the first team with some of their mates who know each other's play - who knows. It's not only the individual brilliance of each player that we are trying to unearth, but the team understanding and style that we should be after and they obviously have that, looking at their results. So I suggest some midfielders and strikers bought through at the same time to start a game or two and see what happens. Lets be daring and go for over achievement, for a change. TTID
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Post by RBC on Oct 19, 2015 14:59:45 GMT 1
With our U21's & U18's firing on all cylinders, now would be the time to bring 4 or 5 through at the same time as per the old Man U team. It's no good getting them in for a "bit-part" when they have no idea how the first team play. But if they come into the first team with some of their mates who know each other's play - who knows. It's not only the individual brilliance of each player that we are trying to unearth, but the team understanding and style that we should be after and they obviously have that, looking at their results. So I suggest some midfielders and strikers bought through at the same time to start a game or two and see what happens. Lets be daring and go for over achievement, for a change. TTID I couldn't agree more, so lets hope Mr Powell thinks so too?
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 19, 2015 15:08:49 GMT 1
With our U21's & U18's firing on all cylinders, now would be the time to bring 4 or 5 through at the same time as per the old Man U team. It's no good getting them in for a "bit-part" when they have no idea how the first team play. But if they come into the first team with some of their mates who know each other's play - who knows. It's not only the individual brilliance of each player that we are trying to unearth, but the team understanding and style that we should be after and they obviously have that, looking at their results. So I suggest some midfielders and strikers bought through at the same time to start a game or two and see what happens. Lets be daring and go for over achievement, for a change. TTID I couldn't agree more, so lets hope Mr Powell thinks so too? I couldn't agree less. Why do we need midfielders bringing in. The standard of U21/U18 is very low - higher than Hull City's though obviously - and they would get slaughtered in the Championship. They will get in if they are good enough.
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Oct 19, 2015 16:29:55 GMT 1
The fact that our best young players can't even get starts in L1 is a little depressing.
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Post by RBC on Oct 19, 2015 16:34:42 GMT 1
I couldn't agree more, so lets hope Mr Powell thinks so too? Thank god you ain't our manager then! Quite true, I wouldn't be able to motivate Goals from our attacking midfielders and strikers, nor attract quality additions to the squad.............sound familiar. Thank god all you want, we might need him too.
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Post by 5kippy on Oct 19, 2015 23:52:10 GMT 1
The fact that our best young players can't even get starts in L1 is a little depressing. That's the whole point I was trying to make. They are on their own trying to manage on their own abilities with a team they are not familiar with (play wise). The same could be said when they are given a "bit-part", for Town. However when they play with their mates in the U21's or U18's they know what is going to happen. In this case the team is greater than the sum of the individuals in it (over achievement). Great credit should go to both coaches. I know it's a big gamble, but it's worth a shot for a few consecutive matches. Also I know we have a good midfield at present, but 3 of these are loanees. TTID
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Post by keithAM11532 on Oct 20, 2015 0:12:09 GMT 1
The fact that our best young players can't even get starts in L1 is a little depressing. That's the whole point I was trying to make. They are on their own trying to manage on their own abilities with a team they are not familiar with (play wise). The same could be said when they are given a "bit-part", for Town. However when they play with their mates in the U21's or U18's they know what is going to happen. In this case the team is greater than the sum of the individuals in it (over achievement). Great credit should go to both coaches. I know it's a big gamble, but it's worth a shot for a few consecutive matches. Also I know we have a good midfield at present, but 3 of these are loanees. TTID Admire your optimism, but you really answer your own question. Its a great gamble, and thankfully one the management team are clearly not going to take. How many times do you see Premier league sides put their youngsters in to the league cup..and oh wait a minute..they get dicked.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Oct 20, 2015 8:33:24 GMT 1
A big issue with youngsters trying to break into teams is the time they need to adjust to the higher level and find their feet - it's going to be a few games before they start paying back the manager's faith. Most managers, whether at the bottom of the Championship or battling away in a physical League 1 or 2 probably don't feel they have that luxury - every point/goal/game is vital in their eyes and a bad run of games can see them under intense pressure, hence they are reluctant to take risks with youngsters. Our situation is exacerbated by having an over-cautious manager - making him a less than ideal fit for a club whose ethos is to bring youngsters through the academy.
Not a bad manager, an okay manager - but the right fit for Town's model?
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Nov 29, 2015 0:02:59 GMT 1
Outstanding today.
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Nov 29, 2015 0:21:06 GMT 1
Not good enough apparrently.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 0:23:40 GMT 1
Outstanding really was ok at best still needs to realise when to pass the ball and that he can't take the whole opposition on plus he was blowing out of his arse after 60 mins
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Nov 29, 2015 0:23:49 GMT 1
Not good enough apparrently. Lolley and Holmes will thrive under Wagner. The more they play the better they'll get.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 0:27:07 GMT 1
Holmes yes I think he will but think lolleys stamina will be an issue for how wagner wants to play
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Nov 29, 2015 0:27:58 GMT 1
Outstanding really was ok at best still needs to realise when to pass the ball and that he can't take the whole opposition on plus he was blowing out of his arse after 60 mins In denial - you can get therapy.
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Post by wtd on Nov 29, 2015 0:34:49 GMT 1
I thought he did well. Same as Paterson, who is still getting his fitness up/back. Also Huws deserves a special mention. I thought he got through an awful lot of work and was extremely mobile and effective. He tired somewhat in the second half, but that's understandable. Think all three will blossom in this new system... they seem to enjoy its fluidity.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Nov 29, 2015 0:39:49 GMT 1
Wow, what game were you watching? Much improved compared to recent performances but nowhere near "outstanding"!!
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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 29, 2015 0:40:54 GMT 1
Sounded good ont radio.
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Post by k1man999 on Nov 29, 2015 0:42:28 GMT 1
Really did you see how much running and closing down lolly did up until he went off. All this crap of not fit enough. However just wish we had of picked him out more when he had space t run into.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 29, 2015 0:44:28 GMT 1
Thought there was a couple of times where he could have and should have shot today but chose to keep running into traffic.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Nov 29, 2015 0:53:04 GMT 1
Thought there was a couple of times where he could have and should have shot today but chose to keep running into traffic. Decision making and final ball not there yet but he's got potential like many of our youngsters, unless they play regularly we will never know if they can cut it, conversely are we now in the position to fully see through this 'experiment' of youth or perhaps in Jan we need established quality in to ensure survival, the next 3 home games are crucial imo ?
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Post by wtd on Nov 29, 2015 0:58:13 GMT 1
Thought there was a couple of times where he could have and should have shot today but chose to keep running into traffic. Decision making and final ball not there yet but he's got potential like many of our youngsters, unless they play regularly we will never know if they can cut it, conversely are we now in the position to fully see through this 'experiment' of youth or perhaps in Jan we need established quality in to ensure survival, the next 3 home games are crucial imo ? Think it'll be a mixture of the two, mate. We'll need lots of young legs to play this style. I was amazed what a young side (barring Hudson and Whitehead) we had out today. All the subs were babies, too. Whitehead was still pivotal, though... you will always need a few of those.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 1:07:27 GMT 1
I thought he did well. Same as Paterson, who is still getting his fitness up/back. Also Huws deserves a special mention. I thought he got through an awful lot of work and was extremely mobile and effective. He tired somewhat in the second half, but that's understandable. Think all three will blossom in this new system... they seem to enjoy its fluidity. I've said it from his first appearance Huws is a classy player. Not cos he went for £3m, his touch his vision and good all round game. He is a gifted footballer as was Clayton who he upstaged today. Whitehead again just a terrific pro. Lots of problems for Powell ofocurse but he could pick a player.
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Post by Sio on Nov 29, 2015 1:15:16 GMT 1
Wow, what game were you watching? Much improved compared to recent performances but nowhere near "outstanding"!! Nah, outstanding
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 1:34:55 GMT 1
Outstanding really was ok at best still needs to realise when to pass the ball and that he can't take the whole opposition on plus he was blowing out of his arse after 60 mins In denial - you can get therapy. As can you
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Nov 29, 2015 1:38:46 GMT 1
Looked something like today!
Was taking about him pre match and I said I felt he was more of an impact sub, well he's proven me wrong and deserves to keep the shirt on that showing.
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Post by morleyterrier on Nov 29, 2015 4:19:59 GMT 1
Thought there was a couple of times where he could have and should have shot today but chose to keep running into traffic. Decision making and final ball not there yet but he's got potential like many of our youngsters, unless they play regularly we will never know if they can cut it, conversely are we now in the position to fully see through this 'experiment' of youth or perhaps in Jan we need established quality in to ensure survival, the next 3 home games are crucial imo ? I would hate to see us go down, I really would, but!. My view is we stick with the Players we have and continue to give some of the younger ones game time. Stick with the plan to not try and rely on 'buying' success as frankly our pockets aren't deep enough for this to be our strategy at Championship level and the Players you need. With one exception, we need a Striker. If we play like that week in, week out, the results will change. To watch a match where we spent most of the time pressing them (a Team with every chance of being top two this time) in their half was an absolute treat to watch after what we have had to endure of late. We will play worse Teams and quality of centre-halves than Boro. That takes me on to my final point and the January transfer window. We need one Player only, an out and out goal scorer. Budget wise I think if Dean Hoyle can somehow find what for us would be 'silly money' to make a signature signing. One where us and fans of other Clubs are thinking how the hell have Huddersfield signed him?. Blow the budget on this signing and give that to David Wagner and watch us go. PS Not giving up on Wells, Lad desperately needs a goal and feel we need this signing with or without a Wells firing on all cylinders.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Nov 29, 2015 8:02:51 GMT 1
R.e Wells, you could see an instant transformation after his goal v MK. He was charging around and looked right up for it but Powell took him off and burst his bubble all to protect a lead at 70 mins vs a crap side. We haven't handled NW well since we bought him and hopefully now he is our undisputed number one striker (the only one we have) he will start to flourish.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 8:58:13 GMT 1
we're not going down. we'll be ok. we ran middlesbro ragged at times yesterday. sharpen up with a couple of signings and we'll be fine.
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Post by townrwe on Nov 29, 2015 9:06:36 GMT 1
I still think dempsey should start somewhere. There will have to be squad rotation playing in this way, which will be great for bloodied youngsters.... but from what I have seen he is the fittest player we have. Not having to worry about one of your midfieldersite blowing themselves out, makes the substitutes more effective and keeps the middle of the park fresh
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