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Post by 3Pipe on Nov 29, 2015 9:20:14 GMT 1
I still think dempsey should start somewhere. There will have to be squad rotation playing in this way, which will be great for bloodied youngsters.... but from what I have seen he is the fittest player we have. Not having to worry about one of your midfieldersite blowing themselves out, makes the substitutes more effective and keeps the middle of the park fresh Spot on dude. I was ripped to shit for saying the same thing yesterday. Best engine in the squad.
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Post by morrisraspass on Nov 29, 2015 9:32:30 GMT 1
I still think dempsey should start somewhere. There will have to be squad rotation playing in this way, which will be great for bloodied youngsters.... but from what I have seen he is the fittest player we have. Not having to worry about one of your midfieldersite blowing themselves out, makes the substitutes more effective and keeps the middle of the park fresh Spot on dude. I was ripped to shit for saying the same thing yesterday. Best engine in the squad. Whereby "ripped to shit" is an OTT way of saying "some people disagreed with me about this yesterday".
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 29, 2015 10:03:03 GMT 1
Spot on dude. I was ripped to shit for saying the same thing yesterday. Best engine in the squad. Whereby "ripped to shit" is an OTT way of saying "some people disagreed with me about this yesterday". And some probably agree with me but I've been so OTT about him from day one that people find it funny to wind me up
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Nov 29, 2015 10:14:11 GMT 1
My boro mate was very complimentary about Lolley yesterday. Needs to release the ball quicker though.
Could do with going down a bit more, was getting hacked constantly yesterday and could have bought at least three yellows. Think we need to get more cynical as a team.
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Post by nicovaesen on Nov 29, 2015 10:52:41 GMT 1
My boro mate was very complimentary about Lolley yesterday. Needs to release the ball quicker though. Could do with going down a bit more, was getting hacked constantly yesterday and could have bought at least three yellows. Think we need to get more cynical as a team. My girlfriend knows nothing about footy and that is her second town match ironically Powell and wagners first games in charge both against boro said exactly the same thing we need to learn to play dirty as we get nothing from the officials. I'm on the other side I despise cheating it winds me up just as much when it's the opposition as when it's a town player makes my blood boil
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 11:33:14 GMT 1
My boro mate was very complimentary about Lolley yesterday. Needs to release the ball quicker though. Could do with going down a bit more, was getting hacked constantly yesterday and could have bought at least three yellows. Think we need to get more cynical as a team. My girlfriend knows nothing about footy and that is her second town match ironically Powell and wagners first games in charge both against boro said exactly the same thing we need to learn to play dirty as we get nothing from the officials. I'm on the other side I despise cheating it winds me up just as much when it's the opposition as when it's a town player makes my blood boil Your girlfriend advocates cheating / playing dirty ?
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Post by Headless Chicken on Nov 29, 2015 11:34:58 GMT 1
My boro mate was very complimentary about Lolley yesterday. Needs to release the ball quicker though. Could do with going down a bit more, was getting hacked constantly yesterday and could have bought at least three yellows. Think we need to get more cynical as a team. My girlfriend knows nothing about footy and that is her second town match ironically Powell and wagners first games in charge both against boro said exactly the same thing we need to learn to play dirty as we get nothing from the officials. I'm on the other side I despise cheating it winds me up just as much when it's the opposition as when it's a town player makes my blood boil It's no wonder players dive. At one point Lolley was running across the pitch being fouled for the full duration, but because he stayed up nothing was given.
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Post by nicovaesen on Nov 29, 2015 11:59:36 GMT 1
My girlfriend knows nothing about footy and that is her second town match ironically Powell and wagners first games in charge both against boro said exactly the same thing we need to learn to play dirty as we get nothing from the officials. I'm on the other side I despise cheating it winds me up just as much when it's the opposition as when it's a town player makes my blood boil It's no wonder players dive. At one point Lolley was running across the pitch being fouled for the full duration, but because he stayed up nothing was given. Very true it's a terrible predicament what do you do though
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 12:52:56 GMT 1
It's not a popular view these days, but I'm with Nico on this one. Do the right thing even if you lose out by doing so.
As for Lolley, I thought he showed great promise: went past people for fun, drifted inside to great effect, put in a shift. We might just get the player we thought we were getting.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Nov 29, 2015 13:10:47 GMT 1
It's not a popular view these days, but I'm with Nico on this one. Do the right thing even if you lose out by doing so. As for Lolley, I thought he showed great promise: went past people for fun, drifted inside to great effect, put in a shift. We might just get the player we thought we were getting. Think his confidence will increase as his fitness increases -- and obviously DW is the man to get him uber fit. If we all think back to our playing days you get a lot of personal confidence if you think you are as fit as can be and don't have to take a rest during games at certain points! I think DW will get that fitness level into the players and we will see huge benefit from it - it will bring with it uber confidence. We will be able to run more expensive teams off their feet. Just need that pacey, robust striker (as Vaughan was at his peak) that defenders will fear.
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Post by pieeater on Nov 29, 2015 13:43:05 GMT 1
Decision making and final ball not there yet but he's got potential like many of our youngsters, unless they play regularly we will never know if they can cut it, conversely are we now in the position to fully see through this 'experiment' of youth or perhaps in Jan we need established quality in to ensure survival, the next 3 home games are crucial imo ? I would hate to see us go down, I really would, but!. My view is we stick with the Players we have and continue to give some of the younger ones game time. Stick with the plan to not try and rely on 'buying' success as frankly our pockets aren't deep enough for this to be our strategy at Championship level and the Players you need. With one exception, we need a Striker. If we play like that week in, week out, the results will change. To watch a match where we spent most of the time pressing them (a Team with every chance of being top two this time) in their half was an absolute treat to watch after what we have had to endure of late. We will play worse Teams and quality of centre-halves than Boro. That takes me on to my final point and the January transfer window. We need one Player only, an out and out goal scorer. Budget wise I think if Dean Hoyle can somehow find what for us would be 'silly money' to make a signature signing. One where us and fans of other Clubs are thinking how the hell have Huddersfield signed him?. Blow the budget on this signing and give that to David Wagner and watch us go. PS Not giving up on Wells, Lad desperately needs a goal and feel we need this signing with or without a Wells firing on all cylinders. I don't disagree, but a signature signing of that kind brings its own problems. Suppose we blow three mill on a striker, well, a player who commands that sort of fee is going to want a big salary to match, perhaps twenty five or thirty grand a week. That's a lot of money to commit to, a million and a half a year out of our total budget. But it's also got potential to knack up squad unity if you bring in someone who earns loads more than anyone else. It tajes very shrewd management to keep people happy in those circumstances. We could easily find most of our better players agitating for big rises and being unhappy if they don't get them
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Post by pieeater on Nov 29, 2015 13:44:19 GMT 1
My girlfriend knows nothing about footy and that is her second town match ironically Powell and wagners first games in charge both against boro said exactly the same thing we need to learn to play dirty as we get nothing from the officials. I'm on the other side I despise cheating it winds me up just as much when it's the opposition as when it's a town player makes my blood boil Your girlfriend advocates cheating / playing dirty ? I wish I had a girlfriend who approved of playing dirty [thank god the missus doesn't read DATM]
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Post by Headless Chicken on Nov 29, 2015 14:05:50 GMT 1
It's not a popular view these days, but I'm with Nico on this one. Do the right thing even if you lose out by doing so. As for Lolley, I thought he showed great promise: went past people for fun, drifted inside to great effect, put in a shift. We might just get the player we thought we were getting. He was stronger and smarter than he has been. Only twice against their very good centre half did he look like a naive boy
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Nov 29, 2015 14:09:14 GMT 1
My boro mate was very complimentary about Lolley yesterday. Needs to release the ball quicker though. Could do with going down a bit more, was getting hacked constantly yesterday and could have bought at least three yellows. Think we need to get more cynical as a team. My girlfriend knows nothing about footy and that is her second town match ironically Powell and wagners first games in charge both against boro said exactly the same thing we need to learn to play dirty as we get nothing from the officials. I'm on the other side I despise cheating it winds me up just as much when it's the opposition as when it's a town player makes my blood boil I'm not talking about diving, I'm saying when they get their shirt tugged or their ankle clipped when they go past a man and get the wrong side then they should go down rather than stumbling on and then getting dispossessed. In that situation it's a yellow card for their player and they know it is because they've got the wrong side. Think Clayton did that several times yesterday and could've been taking an early bath.
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Post by Der Blitzbomber on Nov 29, 2015 14:10:02 GMT 1
I would hate to see us go down, I really would, but!. My view is we stick with the Players we have and continue to give some of the younger ones game time. Stick with the plan to not try and rely on 'buying' success as frankly our pockets aren't deep enough for this to be our strategy at Championship level and the Players you need. With one exception, we need a Striker. If we play like that week in, week out, the results will change. To watch a match where we spent most of the time pressing them (a Team with every chance of being top two this time) in their half was an absolute treat to watch after what we have had to endure of late. We will play worse Teams and quality of centre-halves than Boro. That takes me on to my final point and the January transfer window. We need one Player only, an out and out goal scorer. Budget wise I think if Dean Hoyle can somehow find what for us would be 'silly money' to make a signature signing. One where us and fans of other Clubs are thinking how the hell have Huddersfield signed him?. Blow the budget on this signing and give that to David Wagner and watch us go. PS Not giving up on Wells, Lad desperately needs a goal and feel we need this signing with or without a Wells firing on all cylinders. I don't disagree, but a signature signing of that kind brings its own problems. Suppose we blow three mill on a striker, well, a player who commands that sort of fee is going to want a big salary to match, perhaps twenty five or thirty grand a week. That's a lot of money to commit to, a million and a half a year out of our total budget. But it's also got potential to knack up squad unity if you bring in someone who earns loads more than anyone else. It tajes very shrewd management to keep people happy in those circumstances. We could easily find most of our better players agitating for big rises and being unhappy if they don't get them Look at Joe Lolley. Plucked out of non-league for relative peanuts, and making mincemeat out of players costing millions despite a complete lack of protection from the ref. Sure, it's taken a while to get there but I don't think that's all on him, really. Look at Jamie Vardy: another one costing peanuts from non-league. If we can find a striker from lower down that'd see us right for the next few years... In the short-term though, a loan in January for a proven striker might be the way forward. Is Grant Holt fit again yet?
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Post by 52bob on Nov 30, 2015 14:07:29 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 30, 2015 14:52:16 GMT 1
Great read, the futures looking rosy Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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Post by Essex Terrier on Nov 30, 2015 14:57:53 GMT 1
I don't disagree, but a signature signing of that kind brings its own problems. Suppose we blow three mill on a striker, well, a player who commands that sort of fee is going to want a big salary to match, perhaps twenty five or thirty grand a week. That's a lot of money to commit to, a million and a half a year out of our total budget. But it's also got potential to knack up squad unity if you bring in someone who earns loads more than anyone else. It tajes very shrewd management to keep people happy in those circumstances. We could easily find most of our better players agitating for big rises and being unhappy if they don't get them Look at Joe Lolley. Plucked out of non-league for relative peanuts, and making mincemeat out of players costing millions despite a complete lack of protection from the ref. Sure, it's taken a while to get there but I don't think that's all on him, really. Look at Jamie Vardy: another one costing peanuts from non-league. If we can find a striker from lower down that'd see us right for the next few years... In the short-term though, a loan in January for a proven striker might be the way forward. Is Grant Holt fit again yet? Yeah - like that guy who went from Halifax to Millwall - I bet he's ripping it up wherever he is. Edit - Oh, is he, well perhaps it doesn't work for all of them! OK, what about that guy we got from Dulwich Hamlet then, Carr? Edit of Edt - Oh, is he, it's not easy, this talent spotting, is it?
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Post by bristolterrier on Nov 30, 2015 15:41:47 GMT 1
Decision making and final ball not there yet but he's got potential like many of our youngsters, unless they play regularly we will never know if they can cut it, conversely are we now in the position to fully see through this 'experiment' of youth or perhaps in Jan we need established quality in to ensure survival, the next 3 home games are crucial imo ? I would hate to see us go down, I really would, but!. My view is we stick with the Players we have and continue to give some of the younger ones game time. Stick with the plan to not try and rely on 'buying' success as frankly our pockets aren't deep enough for this to be our strategy at Championship level and the Players you need. With one exception, we need a Striker. If we play like that week in, week out, the results will change. To watch a match where we spent most of the time pressing them (a Team with every chance of being top two this time) in their half was an absolute treat to watch after what we have had to endure of late. We will play worse Teams and quality of centre-halves than Boro. That takes me on to my final point and the January transfer window. We need one Player only, an out and out goal scorer. Budget wise I think if Dean Hoyle can somehow find what for us would be 'silly money' to make a signature signing. One where us and fans of other Clubs are thinking how the hell have Huddersfield signed him?.
Blow the budget on this signing and give that to David Wagner and watch us go. PS Not giving up on Wells, Lad desperately needs a goal and feel we need this signing with or without a Wells firing on all cylinders. Think many are forgetting that Wagner will probably have contacts all over Europe and Liverpool. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we managed to get 3 or 4 players in during January and all from abroad and none for silly money. Dean will not blow all our budget on one striker that he then has to double our wage bill to pay him!!
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Nov 30, 2015 16:44:06 GMT 1
Thanks for linking that it was great to read
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Post by Der Blitzbomber on Dec 1, 2015 19:01:35 GMT 1
Look at Joe Lolley. Plucked out of non-league for relative peanuts, and making mincemeat out of players costing millions despite a complete lack of protection from the ref. Sure, it's taken a while to get there but I don't think that's all on him, really. Look at Jamie Vardy: another one costing peanuts from non-league. If we can find a striker from lower down that'd see us right for the next few years... In the short-term though, a loan in January for a proven striker might be the way forward. Is Grant Holt fit again yet? Yeah - like that guy who went from Halifax to Millwall - I bet he's ripping it up wherever he is. Edit - Oh, is he, well perhaps it doesn't work for all of them! OK, what about that guy we got from Dulwich Hamlet then, Carr? Edit of Edt - Oh, is he, it's not easy, this talent spotting, is it? Signings from non-league are a gamble, sure... But if your scouts have done their homework it's no more of a gamble than any other signing... And the stakes are much lower from the money side too.
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