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Post by canuckterrier on Sept 1, 2015 14:17:13 GMT 1
Someone's just put a pic on Facebook of a snippet of an interview so I don't know who's saying it, but it says we won't be rushed into finding a replacement!Hold the bloody phone we knew this was happening for well over a week. I'm not having that we haven't had time to find someone else. Maybe that's brinkmanship by our chairman so that the club we've been negotiating with to replace Butterfield don't think we're getting desperate and therefore inflate their asking price? My thoughts exactly. (There may be a very slight touch of 'grasping at straws' in my thoughts though)
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Sept 1, 2015 14:20:48 GMT 1
Why the long faces? We have 7 million to spend! Yippeeeeee If that doesn't buy us a top 10 side nowt will Or it might get us 63% of Ross McCormack at last year's prices and that worked out ever so well for Fulham didn't it. If you think £7m goes far in the football these days you need to remove your League One head and use a Championship one instead.
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Post by mightyterrier on Sept 1, 2015 14:21:22 GMT 1
Maybe that's brinkmanship by our chairman so that the club we've been negotiating with to replace Butterfield don't think we're getting desperate and therefore inflate their asking price? My thoughts exactly. (There may be a very slight touch of 'grasping at straws' in my thoughts though) what if the brinkmanship doesn't work - we will have loans to rely on? its a no win situation for Dean and the board I suspect
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Post by terrierng on Sept 1, 2015 14:22:12 GMT 1
Mid's you seem clued up so I'll take your word for it. If it gets too 6:02 this evening and no one has come in at all I'll be as pissed off as I was when Stewart went. And I get the feeling I won't be the only one. I agree. It's testing times for HTFC. We have always been a selling club, but in the last few weeks we've sold, and released, and received a lot of cash, and freed up a lot of wages. Similar in January too. 2015 has been a bit of a clearout. We survived last season despite that. This season hasn't started well but it's early days yet. I'd hope things improved, especially if we can attract quality, value, and have a bit of luck. Need more than luck mids,this is a crucial four hrs,everybody can see we need a striker, so what we do?,buy one and loan him out and let wigan have one, both could be still here,ok jv has injury concerns but twenty games from him is better than none, will reserve judgement till sid but like i say big four hrs.
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Post by buckers on Sept 1, 2015 14:24:43 GMT 1
Mid's you seem clued up so I'll take your word for it. If it gets too 6:02 this evening and no one has come in at all I'll be as pissed off as I was when Stewart went. And I get the feeling I won't be the only one. I agree. It's testing times for HTFC. We have always been a selling club, but in the last few weeks we've sold, and released, and received a lot of cash, and freed up a lot of wages. Similar in January too. 2015 has been a bit of a clearout. We survived last season despite that. This season hasn't started well but it's early days yet. I'd hope things improved, especially if we can attract quality, value, and have a bit of luck. I've no problem with selling players as long as we replace them. I'm not overly bothered if we don't buy another midfielder, but Saturday showed me how desperate we are for a striker.
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Post by blueray4 on Sept 1, 2015 14:28:55 GMT 1
I agree. It's testing times for HTFC. We have always been a selling club, but in the last few weeks we've sold, and released, and received a lot of cash, and freed up a lot of wages. Similar in January too. 2015 has been a bit of a clearout. We survived last season despite that. This season hasn't started well but it's early days yet. I'd hope things improved, especially if we can attract quality, value, and have a bit of luck. I've no problem with selling players as long as we replace them. I'm not overly bothered if we don't buy another midfielder, but Saturday showed me how desperate we are for a striker. Exactly. Desperately in need of a striker.
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Post by 4 pts on Sept 1, 2015 14:35:45 GMT 1
At the end of the day credit goes to both Butterfield and Hoyle. Firstly, Butterfield has continued to play whilst bids were being received and could quite easily stated "I don't believe you should pick me today gaffer, I don't feel mentally fit and don't want to get injured" Which at the moment seems to be very very fashionable in terms of player power. So fair play to Butterfield. Secondly, Hoyle for making 4 or 5 million profit within 12 months. Not the first major profit he's made and won't be the last. So fair play to Deano. If people don't like this way of running a club and ONLY turn up against Weeds and think its ok to take my frickin seat, tough shit.....get used to it
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Post by mids on Sept 1, 2015 14:42:00 GMT 1
I agree. It's testing times for HTFC. We have always been a selling club, but in the last few weeks we've sold, and released, and received a lot of cash, and freed up a lot of wages. Similar in January too. 2015 has been a bit of a clearout. We survived last season despite that. This season hasn't started well but it's early days yet. I'd hope things improved, especially if we can attract quality, value, and have a bit of luck. I've no problem with selling players as long as we replace them. I'm not overly bothered if we don't buy another midfielder, but Saturday showed me how desperate we are for a striker. I haven't seen a game since May, so I couldn't comment. However, from the outside it looks like the team and staff are lacking the belief and concentration to see the job through. I think it's that we need more than many things. We have some good players. But more often than not the better ones, the more creative ones, are sat on the bench twiddling their thumbs. We're predictable, in application and how we set ourselves up. Shame really.
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Post by royrace on Sept 1, 2015 14:43:24 GMT 1
Maybe folk will get off Dean's back now - "as the very first bid came in a few weeks ago, he wanted to leave us there and then. He didn’t want to play for us anymore from then on with immediate effect."Players simply dont care. I always got the feeling that he didn't want to come here in the first place. You are right though, players have little loyalty (not that I blame them really) and you just know that Butterfield is going to disappear without trace at Derby within a year or two. good move financially, no doubt, but footballing wise? It will be Norwich all over again for him. I agree, at the time it seemed to me he thought of it as a big step down and he was almost forced into it. Issue is he has played his best football since Barnsley with us. Derby is another Norwich and boro waiting to happen. I personally thought the value of being a regular starter and playing his best football for some time would have had some bearing on his decision, apparently not, as usual money talks with him and his agent making an absolute fortune. He's been superb for us but I can see him failing at Derby as he did at Norwich and Boro. Maybe we can buy him back in a couple of seasons for £300k and get his career back on track again. If the fee is £5M the club has to be congratulated for holding out I guess, huge pressure on Powell and the board now to deliver the players necessary to avoid relegation. BIG boots to fill in addition to the other gaping holes in the squad. There will certainly be money available, not sure I trust Powell to spend it wisely to be honest.
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Post by royrace on Sept 1, 2015 14:49:02 GMT 1
At the end of the day credit goes to both Butterfield and Hoyle. Firstly, Butterfield has continued to play whilst bids were being received and could quite easily stated "I don't believe you should pick me today gaffer, I don't feel mentally fit and don't want to get injured" Which at the moment seems to be very very fashionable in terms of player power. So fair play to Butterfield. Secondly, Hoyle for making 4 or 5 million profit within 12 months. Not the first major profit he's made and won't be the last. So fair play to Deano. If people don't like this way of running a club and ONLY turn up against Weeds and think its ok to take my frickin seat, tough shit.....get used to it You seriously think he deserves credit for that??!?!?!? If you saw his weekly pay check you may change your mind FWIW I didnt think he gave 100% on Saturday although he was still adequate.
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 1, 2015 14:49:36 GMT 1
So, he was desperate to leave us?.
That will explain his committed and all round superb performance on Saturday then.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2015 14:51:07 GMT 1
Best of luck to him.
Think we can charge them more if they haven't paid before the day too.
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Post by Marco4 on Sept 1, 2015 14:56:35 GMT 1
I don't even know why Town bother having players any more, they all leave in the end. Look at them, laughing at us from Blackburn and Rotherham and Derby. Does it keep you awake at night, wondering what people in Rotherham think? 'If', rather than 'what'.
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Sept 1, 2015 15:00:13 GMT 1
Good stat from opta
@optajoe: 130 - Since the start of last season, Jacob Butterfield has created more chances than any other Championship player (130).
Going to be difficult to replace. Or we may not replace him at all.
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Post by jasrick on Sept 1, 2015 15:04:30 GMT 1
Our chances to goals conversion rate based on that stat... In fact I'm just not going to believe that stat.
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Post by jimmymac on Sept 1, 2015 15:06:20 GMT 1
Just seen van persie outside the peacock....
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Sept 1, 2015 15:12:52 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 1, 2015 15:18:18 GMT 1
Maybe folk will get off Dean's back now - "as the very first bid came in a few weeks ago, he wanted to leave us there and then. He didn’t want to play for us anymore from then on with immediate effect."Players simply dont care. Looked like it the way he celebrated his goal against Brighton Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 1, 2015 15:27:24 GMT 1
Maybe folk will get off Dean's back now - "as the very first bid came in a few weeks ago, he wanted to leave us there and then. He didn’t want to play for us anymore from then on with immediate effect."Players simply dont care. Looked like it the way he celebrated his goal against Brighton Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards I told you he waved goodbye at Fulham.
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Post by benhomly on Sept 1, 2015 15:29:14 GMT 1
Maybe folk will get off Dean's back now - "as the very first bid came in a few weeks ago, he wanted to leave us there and then. He didn’t want to play for us anymore from then on with immediate effect."Players simply dont care. Looked like it the way he celebrated his goal against Brighton Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards A cynic might say it suddenly flashed through his mind that if Derby weren't sure before then they bloody will be now.
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Sept 1, 2015 16:10:59 GMT 1
Step forward Billing/Tronstad
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 1, 2015 16:46:10 GMT 1
He's already made a video saying how much he wanted to join them. Can't blame him can we. Big crowds, nice stadium. Chats worth house and Alton Towers near. Oh well
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Post by davethesprout on Sept 1, 2015 16:58:28 GMT 1
Just been told this and speaking terms with Derby!! Great news how do we replace him now ?? Hews is the replacement?? WHO ?
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Post by htafctaunton on Sept 1, 2015 17:00:46 GMT 1
Can't argue with the money, but I'm still gutted. Bloody real player was butterfield. 3 signings needed none of which need be a defensive minded central midfielder. We have enough of them now. Agree with you re Butters....but....(and I'm ready to face the flack!).... Dempsey - Huws (not sure of spelling!)- Lolley - Holmes ........ALL attacking midfield players - do we REALLY need to buy more?? IF Paterson is available, he would be worth buying (but I don't want any more f**king plodders!)
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Post by town1 on Sept 1, 2015 17:08:00 GMT 1
May have missed this. If so apologies.
Did he ask for a transfer or not? Has he lost he part of any fee or not?
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Post by amoeba on Sept 1, 2015 17:12:29 GMT 1
Step forward Billing/Tronstad They have to be up to it first,no manager has been dying to chuck them in yet. Sent from my HTC One_M8 using proboards
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Post by COWleySHED on Sept 1, 2015 17:19:16 GMT 1
yeah and thank fuck for that i dont know what the crowds would be if we didnt have davidson and smith at full backs not forgetting the goal machine miller upfront you are deluded if you think hoyle has not lost interest in his htfc project - writing was on the wall last jan when there was a mass exodusBit extreme, we got rid of players who weren't getting a look in? Such as Ward, Dixon etc. It's just smart to get these players off the wage bill surely? smart to get rid of dixon!? when robinson got injured we had the numpty carroll at lb and then smith playing at left back - no competition for places makes players complacent
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 1, 2015 17:19:23 GMT 1
Forgot the name of the new transfer negotiator at Town ? He's been quiet ??
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Sept 1, 2015 17:22:33 GMT 1
I've no problem with selling players as long as we replace them. I'm not overly bothered if we don't buy another midfielder, but Saturday showed me how desperate we are for a striker. I haven't seen a game since May, so I couldn't comment. However, from the outside it looks like the team and staff are lacking the belief and concentration to see the job through. I think it's that we need more than many things. We have some good players. But more often than not the better ones, the more creative ones, are sat on the bench twiddling their thumbs. We're predictable, in application and how we set ourselves up. Shame really. We need one or two strikers - they make a world of difference. Nice to have a decent midfield like we did last May but even without a midfield you can wang it up to decent strikers and they can move you up the table.
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Post by COWleySHED on Sept 1, 2015 17:26:27 GMT 1
butterfield is the only player that shoots, he had our only shot on target sat and the previous match at fulham he had 4 shots by half time
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