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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 12:24:41 GMT 1
No matter how well Town are doing there are still some town fans who like to have a player that be their boo-boy It would seem that Hudson is currently that choice Third in the league, unbeaten, away win at Newcastle, draw at Villa both touted as automatics for promotion and the fella still attracts the moaners When he didn't play we lost to a third division team Shame some of the moaners are not as positive about the team as the team and manager are! Some have boo boys, some call it how they see it. I'm yet to see Hudson get any unfair criticism on here unlike the likes of Alex Smithies in the past. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 12:28:10 GMT 1
No matter how well Town are doing there are still some town fans who like to have a player that be their boo-boy It would seem that Hudson is currently that choice Third in the league, unbeaten, away win at Newcastle, draw at Villa both touted as automatics for promotion and the fella still attracts the moaners When he didn't play we lost to a third division team Shame some of the moaners are not as positive about the team as the team and manager are! Some have boo boys, some call it how they see it. I'm yet to see Hudson get any unfair criticism on here unlike the likes of Alex Smithies in the past. Really? |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Aug 17, 2016 12:29:19 GMT 1
No matter how well Town are doing there are still some town fans who like to have a player that be their boo-boy It would seem that Hudson is currently that choice Third in the league, unbeaten, away win at Newcastle, draw at Villa both touted as automatics for promotion and the fella still attracts the moaners When he didn't play we lost to a third division team Shame some of the moaners are not as positive about the team as the team and manager are! It does my head in when people come out with crap like this. Nobody is using him as their 'boo-boy', and nobody is scapegoating him, most people on this site who use that word don't even know what it means. People are picking up on Hudson because he is the weak link in our defence, that doesn't mean he doesn't make a hefty contribution, but he is also the player most liable to get us into trouble. He has glaring weaknesses in his game (mainly due to his lack of speed/agility) and we are lucky that many of his mistakes have not been punished. There is no denying his determination, effort, and ability as a leader, but his physical and technical ability as a defender is by far the biggest weakness in our side, being able to see that does not make one a 'boo-boy' or a 'moaner' |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 12:34:40 GMT 1
Some have boo boys, some call it how they see it. I'm yet to see Hudson get any unfair criticism on here unlike the likes of Alex Smithies in the past. Really? Can you highlight any... |
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Post by RickDangerous on Aug 17, 2016 12:47:04 GMT 1
I think it's obvious he brings a lot in terms of organisation and leadership. Past few performances from reports on here have been very good. He did look shakey against Brentford in patchs though.
Fair play to him.
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Post by kennyk2 on Aug 17, 2016 12:47:59 GMT 1
No matter how well Town are doing there are still some town fans who like to have a player that be their boo-boy It would seem that Hudson is currently that choice Third in the league, unbeaten, away win at Newcastle, draw at Villa both touted as automatics for promotion and the fella still attracts the moaners When he didn't play we lost to a third division team Shame some of the moaners are not as positive about the team as the team and manager are! Some have boo boys, some call it how they see it. I'm yet to see Hudson get any unfair criticism on here unlike the likes of Alex Smithies in the past. OK. Deep breath... breathe out... now.... let it go..... . |
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 17, 2016 12:50:32 GMT 1
His reading of the game meant that he was consistently in the right place at the right time. His bravery meant that Gestede was denied a goal that would have put the game to bed. Mostly though it's his leadership that impresses me. Our defence looked organised throughout and much of that was down to him communicating and leading.
It's his leadership & experience over and above everything else. Especially in defence it only takes one of your back 4 not working as a unit to bring the whole thing crashing down. A more talented individual in a less well organised defence would make for a poorer defence overall. Leadership & experience should never be underestimated, but on the back 4 especially so.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 17, 2016 12:59:55 GMT 1
What, you really expect someone to run through past posts to highlight this, we're not in court 😄 Of course he has his limitations and we all know it, but a fair few posters are continuously flippant in their commentary and constantly putting him down as chief culprit for goals conceded when that is debatable at best. It's like some have a hobby that involves shoe-horning in a dig at Hudson. I expect his involvement will reduce as the season progresses, but why the need for repeating the same old crap in the same crappy way (not aimed at you!). Suppose I should try to stop groaning myself at some of his passing. What's it going to be like when we lose (we don't know yet, because he didn't play in that game 😉)? |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 17, 2016 13:24:36 GMT 1
What, you really expect someone to run through past posts to highlight this, we're not in court 😄 Of course he has his limitations and we all know it, but a fair few posters are continuously flippant in their commentary and constantly putting him down as chief culprit for goals conceded when that is debatable at best. It's like some have a hobby that involves shoe-horsing in a dig at Hudson. I expect his involvement will reduce as the season progresses, but why the need for repeating the same old crap in the same crappy way (not aimed at you!). Suppose I should try to stop groaning myself at some of his passing. What's it going to be like when we lose (we don't know yet, because he didn't play in that game 😉)? Shoe-horsing? Now THAT I'd like to see!   |
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Post by JRx on Aug 17, 2016 13:25:34 GMT 1
Something that summed Mark Hudson up yesterday - a lot of people have mentioned the block and putting his body on the line against Gestede. What hasn't been highlighted (apologises if I missed it) is that this resulted in a corner for them and Hudson needing treatment and therefore having to go off the pitch. As he was leaving the pitch he was organising the team and also making sure his man was picked up. Ultimately that is why he is in the team, even Schindlers interview before the game alluded to the fact they are both always in constant communication with each other. Yes he has his faults but so do all players and I think they are being focused on more than they need to be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2016 13:28:34 GMT 1
Lambasted for being at fault for the Newcastle goal however I watched a review from a Newcastle fan who singled Hudson out as being "a colossus". Have to face that some people's mind is already made up no matter how he plays, like a ref who's given a dodgy pen they just aren't going to change their minds. This much was shown by people calling for him to be dropped after an impressive preseason, before a competitive ball had been kicked, and before having even seen the likes of Hefele kick a ball. It's a new season so it's a clean slate for me
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 17, 2016 13:28:36 GMT 1
Hudson was bloody brilliant last night. Our man of the match in what was a very good team performance. Suppose though that he'd made a mistake (or just been beaten for pace, or in the air) that had led to them scoring a winner. Would the focus be on how well he'd done for the other 89 minutes & 55 seconds? Or would it be on how we'd lost the game because Hudson is so slow? (edit - just realised I'm essentially repeating morleyterrier 's point) |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Aug 17, 2016 13:32:37 GMT 1
No matter how well Town are doing there are still some town fans who like to have a player that be their boo-boy It would seem that Hudson is currently that choice Third in the league, unbeaten, away win at Newcastle, draw at Villa both touted as automatics for promotion and the fella still attracts the moaners When he didn't play we lost to a third division team Shame some of the moaners are not as positive about the team as the team and manager are! Bang on, Hes our captain! |
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Post by terrier70 on Aug 17, 2016 13:45:16 GMT 1
No matter how well Town are doing there are still some town fans who like to have a player that be their boo-boy It would seem that Hudson is currently that choice Third in the league, unbeaten, away win at Newcastle, draw at Villa both touted as automatics for promotion and the fella still attracts the moaners When he didn't play we lost to a third division team Shame some of the moaners are not as positive about the team as the team and manager are! It does my head in when people come out with crap like this. Nobody is using him as their 'boo-boy', and nobody is scapegoating him, most people on this site who use that word don't even know what it means. People are picking up on Hudson because he is the weak link in our defence, that doesn't mean he doesn't make a hefty contribution, but he is also the player most liable to get us into trouble. He has glaring weaknesses in his game (mainly due to his lack of speed/agility) and we are lucky that many of his mistakes have not been punished. There is no denying his determination, effort, and ability as a leader, but his physical and technical ability as a defender is by far the biggest weakness in our side, being able to see that does not make one a 'boo-boy' or a 'moaner' You have just conflicted your own argument |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 17, 2016 13:46:47 GMT 1
What, you really expect someone to run through past posts to highlight this, we're not in court 😄 Of course he has his limitations and we all know it, but a fair few posters are continuously flippant in their commentary and constantly putting him down as chief culprit for goals conceded when that is debatable at best. It's like some have a hobby that involves shoe-horsing in a dig at Hudson. I expect his involvement will reduce as the season progresses, but why the need for repeating the same old crap in the same crappy way (not aimed at you!). Suppose I should try to stop groaning myself at some of his passing. What's it going to be like when we lose (we don't know yet, because he didn't play in that game 😉)? Shoe-horsing? Now THAT I'd like to see! Ha. Unintended irony 😄 Time to edit. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Aug 17, 2016 15:55:54 GMT 1
It does my head in when people come out with crap like this. Nobody is using him as their 'boo-boy', and nobody is scapegoating him, most people on this site who use that word don't even know what it means. People are picking up on Hudson because he is the weak link in our defence, that doesn't mean he doesn't make a hefty contribution, but he is also the player most liable to get us into trouble. He has glaring weaknesses in his game (mainly due to his lack of speed/agility) and we are lucky that many of his mistakes have not been punished. There is no denying his determination, effort, and ability as a leader, but his physical and technical ability as a defender is by far the biggest weakness in our side, being able to see that does not make one a 'boo-boy' or a 'moaner' You have just conflicted your own argument No I haven't you dafty, leveling valid criticism at a player does not mean that he is being scapegoated or anything like that. Which part of that are you failing to understand? Virtually everyone who has criticized Hudson has also praised him in the same breath, so stop looking for negativity where there isn't any. |
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Post by ben1987 on Aug 17, 2016 16:13:56 GMT 1
I hope Sugy is ok.
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Post by terrier70 on Aug 18, 2016 8:10:32 GMT 1
You have just conflicted your own argument No I haven't you dafty, leveling valid criticism at a player does not mean that he is being scapegoated or anything like that. Which part of that are you failing to understand? Virtually everyone who has criticized Hudson has also praised him in the same breath, so stop looking for negativity where there isn't any. Dafty, some of the criticism is not valid whatsoever, now who is coming out with crap as you referred to it earlier. I do not have to look for negativity because it is here on this thread which is why I posted a valid comment you labelled as crap! |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Aug 18, 2016 8:14:15 GMT 1
No I haven't you dafty, leveling valid criticism at a player does not mean that he is being scapegoated or anything like that. Which part of that are you failing to understand? Virtually everyone who has criticized Hudson has also praised him in the same breath, so stop looking for negativity where there isn't any. Dafty, some of the criticism is not valid whatsoever, now who is coming out with crap as you referred to it earlier. I do not have to look for negativity because it is here on this thread which is why I posted a valid comment you labelled as crap! No it isn't, stop making a drama out of nothing. |
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Post by terrier70 on Aug 18, 2016 8:18:12 GMT 1
Dafty, some of the criticism is not valid whatsoever, now who is coming out with crap as you referred to it earlier. I do not have to look for negativity because it is here on this thread which is why I posted a valid comment you labelled as crap! No it isn't, stop making a drama out of nothing. Making a drama out of it? responding to a post is making a drama is it |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2016 8:20:56 GMT 1
Shoe-horsing? Now THAT I'd like to see! Ha. Unintended irony 😄 Time to edit. More unintended IRONy?  |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Aug 18, 2016 9:43:23 GMT 1
I've been consistently critical of Hudson but he was fantastic against Villa. I thought it was really good the way he got close to Gestede in the second half as soon as the ball was hit to him. He knew he couldn't beat him in the air so didn't try to, just got close and stopped him from jumping so it sailed harmlessly over his head and then his team mates swept up behind.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Aug 18, 2016 9:46:57 GMT 1
I've been consistently critical of Hudson but he was fantastic against Villa. I thought it was really good the way he got close to Gestede in the second half as soon as the ball was hit to him. He knew he couldn't beat him in the air so didn't try to, just got close and stopped him from jumping and then his team mates swept up behind. Sounds like somebady had a plan, strange that for town. In wagner we trust. UTT |
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Aug 18, 2016 11:10:14 GMT 1
FFS Wagners not stupid he knows Hudsons strengths and weaknesses. DW after this start at the moment beyond reproach especially with team selection and tactics. Time will dictate when Hefe or Stank come in for Huddy(is he on 3 bookings already) or even Schindy through inury suspension and (lack of) form. Pointing the obvious about Hudsons weaknesses is becoming boring everyone knows them but on current form and the teams results only an idiot would suggest he doesnt deserve his place and to start against Barnsley
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Post by Captainslapper on Aug 18, 2016 16:35:10 GMT 1
Real captain's performance from Mark Hudson last night. Early on put his head in with boot flying at him. Terrific clearance off the line. In second half great block when keeper had half saved a shot and got clattered for his troubles. Really great defending to turn their left side player inside when he was shaping to shoot. Great positioning on numerous occasions to block out runners and protect his team mates. Really impressive. He is very quiet today! Have been in deepest darkest wales all week. Glad to hear he had a good solid game by the sound of it ( i always seem to miss them! ), so credit where its due. |
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Aug 20, 2016 18:10:58 GMT 1
I've come to realise,
if Mark Hudson doesn't head the ball clear at the back,
no bugger does.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Aug 20, 2016 18:13:02 GMT 1
Just don't ask him to turn, or run?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 18:14:13 GMT 1
I've come to realise, if Mark Hudson doesn't head the ball clear at the back, no bugger does. If that was your realisation after that second half then I'm thinking you weren't watching the game too closely. The falling over in his own area after his legs gave up on him was a particular highlight. It's only a matter of time before a team punishes one of his mistakes. We've been very fortunate so far |
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Aug 20, 2016 19:03:50 GMT 1
I've come to realise, if Mark Hudson doesn't head the ball clear at the back, no bugger does. If that was your realisation after that second half then I'm thinking you weren't watching the game too closely. The falling over in his own area after his legs gave up on him was a particular highlight. It's only a matter of time before a team punishes one of his mistakes. We've been very fortunate so far I'm not saying he didn't fall over, I'm not saying he didn't make mistakes, I'm saying that if HE didn't head out any high balls into the box, more often than not, a Barnsley player won it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2016 19:06:48 GMT 1
he was very poor today. looked very indecisive in any kind of possession. mind you whiteheads back pass nearly made hudsons passing world class.
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