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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2016 22:30:15 GMT 1
Hudson did well. Schindler was terrific... growing by the game. There are plenty eating their words. Fuck-em the wankers. Well done Hudson, top defender. Wash your mouth out and grow up. |
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Post by davyjones on Aug 27, 2016 22:37:57 GMT 1
The whole 11 were man of the match today
Any one of the 11 could have been Mom
For what it's worth for me it was either Loewe or Chris 'no sweat' Schindler
For 1.8m the guy is class as is Loewe as is Mooey as is Ward as is Kachunga as is Palmer as is Payne etc etc
Common denominator is DW who purchased them all
I've been watching Town for 40 years
DW is the single most important person this club had had in the last 40 years (except with the exception of Deano who without Deano there would be no DW)
There was a thread last night about the Derby team, I wouldn't swap one single player from their squad to ours and I include JB and Xhris Martin and Keogh in that
Ince no way,Russell no way, Martin instead of Nakhi forget it etc etc
We are Town and we are proud and I fucking love it x
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 1:40:22 GMT 1
There will be occasions when all players will cost us this season! Ward saved us today but cost us at Shrewsbury! Whitehead very nearly cost us last week against Barnsley. It's almost as if some WANT him to make a mistake that leads to a goal conceded to be proved right! A clean sheet and top of the league and still folk go on like it's despite his presence and not because he is helping out a TEAM performance. Individually others may be better but Wagner clearly thinks the TEAM with Hudson as part of it is currently better than the sum of other individuals. You talk as if I've not mentioned some of the very good things he did....I have credited him and I want him to do well. But he stands out, he makes so many mistakes, so I think it is dispite his presence. We look vulnerable when the ball gets pumped route one into the box, almost every time and it's a prerequisite that centre halves are able to challenge adequately in our own area - he gets bullied too often. That's the way I see it every time I've watched him. Clean sheet and 1-0 win, yes, great, exceptional - but does that mean we shouldn't look at where we can improve? People talk about his presence - well what about Hefele, how do we know he might not develop a presence if he got a run in the side? This is where I think DW could do with looking at and I think it's only a matter of time until he does. What about Hefele? Again mentioned with nothing to back it up other than he MIGHT be good. He also might not, and there's no justification to find out at the moment as the Schindler/Hudson partnership is working just fine |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2016 9:51:18 GMT 1
You talk as if I've not mentioned some of the very good things he did....I have credited him and I want him to do well. But he stands out, he makes so many mistakes, so I think it is dispite his presence. We look vulnerable when the ball gets pumped route one into the box, almost every time and it's a prerequisite that centre halves are able to challenge adequately in our own area - he gets bullied too often. That's the way I see it every time I've watched him. Clean sheet and 1-0 win, yes, great, exceptional - but does that mean we shouldn't look at where we can improve? People talk about his presence - well what about Hefele, how do we know he might not develop a presence if he got a run in the side? This is where I think DW could do with looking at and I think it's only a matter of time until he does. What about Hefele? Again mentioned with nothing to back it up other than he MIGHT be good. He also might not, and there's no justification to find out at the moment as the Schindler/Hudson partnership is working just fine I'm better in the air than Hudson, and quicker. So I don't believe speculating that Hefele 'might' be better, is too far fetched. Ps - I have seen Hefele play so it's not a total guess. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 28, 2016 16:29:15 GMT 1
I think Hudson has looked better, maybe its Schindlers class helping him.
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 13, 2016 17:23:44 GMT 1
Whether you rate him or not (and the game is all about opinions). The Lad has come a long way since some jeered him in our opener against Brentford.
Whatever happens, he has 'history maker' on his CV as he was one of our centre-backs in a history making Huddersfield Town Team.
I am delighted for Him, I really am.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 17:28:07 GMT 1
I think Hudson has looked better, maybe its Schindlers class helping him. Hudson is the teacher, so it's his 'class' really. Top of the form is Schindler.  |
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 13, 2016 17:32:10 GMT 1
I think Hudson has looked better, maybe its Schindlers class helping him. Hudson is the teacher, so it's his 'class' really. Top of the form is Schindler. Cod, there is no disputing that Schindler has helped Hudson's form. I am sure Hudson himself would tell you that. I wouldn't swap this pairing for any other in our League. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2016 17:48:05 GMT 1
Hudson is the teacher, so it's his 'class' really. Top of the form is Schindler. Cod, there is no disputing that Schindler has helped Hudson's form. I am sure Hudson himself would tell you that. I wouldn't swap this pairing for any other in our League. I'm not saying he hasn't benefited with Schindler at his side, but i betcha Schindler would say, Hudson is a big reason he's settling in so well. Been an outstanding pupil has our Christopher. Edit...You do realise it's a play on the word class? |
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 13, 2016 17:50:18 GMT 1
Cod, there is no disputing that Schindler has helped Hudson's form. I am sure Hudson himself would tell you that. I wouldn't swap this pairing for any other in our League. I'm not saying he hasn't benefited with Schindler at his side, but i betcha Schindler would say, Hudson is a big reason he's settling in so well. Been an outstanding pupil has our Christopher. As with any outstanding centre back pairing, they feed off each other and compliment each other well. We have two belters here. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 13:16:50 GMT 1
Excellent yesterday - I thought he did everything I've previously criticised him for not doing in the past - really strong and dominating in the air, even looked pretty good in possession. Glad to be being proven wrong at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 13:26:01 GMT 1
If you have played sport in a pair or doubles (Doubles tennis, badminton etc) you soon understand that your partner can make you a better player and you can make them a better player, (to some extent) regardless of your individual abilities.
It is about how you both read the game, how you both move and which plays you feel natural playing. By working symbiotically, the whole becomes much better than the sum of it's parts.
This our current centre half pairing.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 18, 2016 16:49:12 GMT 1
Excellent yesterday - I thought he did everything I've previously criticised him for not doing in the past - really strong and dominating in the air, even looked pretty good in possession. Glad to be being proven wrong at the moment. Have to agree. hes playing better at the moment than i thought it was possible for him to. Hes not really doing anything outstanding ( Schindlers taking care of all that) , but importantly he isn't looking a liability either like he did most of last season. Think having Hogg operating just in front of him is helping hudson massively. Creates a barrier that stops hudson being exposed so they can't get a run at him. Hudsons just doing wht hes good at- reading the game and being in the right place at the right time. Im never going to rate him but we're top of the division, so who gives a f*ck?!!  |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 18, 2016 16:52:19 GMT 1
I loved how Huddy came over to kilner really really hyped up at end. Hes been very good so far.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 17:28:36 GMT 1
Excellent yesterday - I thought he did everything I've previously criticised him for not doing in the past - really strong and dominating in the air, even looked pretty good in possession. Glad to be being proven wrong at the moment. Have to agree. hes playing better at the moment than i thought it was possible for him to. Hes not really doing anything outstanding ( Schindlers taking care of all that) , but importantly he isn't looking a liability either like he did most of last season. Think having Hogg operating just in front of him is helping hudson massively. Creates a barrier that stops hudson being exposed so they can't get a run at him. Hudsons just doing wht hes good at- reading the game and being in the right place at the right time. Im never going to rate him but we're top of the division, so who gives a f*ck?!! I said the same thing after the game yesterday. The players around Hudson and the general brilliant way the team plays at the moment, limits Hudsons vulnerabilities, teams rarely seem to expose him the way they certainly did last season. He fits in nicely by reading the game and I have to say, also marshalling the defence really well. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Sept 18, 2016 18:24:12 GMT 1
You only have to look at Rob Huth and Wes Morgan to see you don't have to be the best center backs to form the best partnership. (Schindler is class though)
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Sept 18, 2016 18:56:47 GMT 1
You only have to look at Rob Huth and Wes Morgan to see you don't have to be the best center backs to form the best partnership. (Schindler is class though) Totally agree. Only reservation is both Huddy & schindler look to lack pace. |
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Post by zoso on Sept 18, 2016 23:10:59 GMT 1
Excellent yesterday - I thought he did everything I've previously criticised him for not doing in the past - really strong and dominating in the air, even looked pretty good in possession. Glad to be being proven wrong at the moment. Have to agree. hes playing better at the moment than i thought it was possible for him to. Hes not really doing anything outstanding ( Schindlers taking care of all that) , but importantly he isn't looking a liability either like he did most of last season. Think having Hogg operating just in front of him is helping hudson massively. Creates a barrier that stops hudson being exposed so they can't get a run at him. Hudsons just doing wht hes good at- reading the game and being in the right place at the right time. Im never going to rate him but we're top of the division, so who gives a f*ck?!! He scored against L***s last season. Forever a legend in my book  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2016 23:30:14 GMT 1
The team is about blending players and creating more than the sum of the individuals. Hudson is a part of this, how Wagner spotted this is just voodoo stuff. Top player this season.
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 28, 2016 0:08:23 GMT 1
We missed him tonight and didn't look as solid defensively without him.
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Post by Sedgeterrier on Oct 18, 2016 12:22:36 GMT 1
I see the Hudson haters have gone quiet recently.
12 Games in to the season and we have the best defence in the league which Hudson is part of.
Do the haters still think he is a weak link?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 12:25:46 GMT 1
I see the Hudson haters have gone quiet recently. 12 Games in to the season and we have the best defence in the league which Hudson is part of. Do the haters still think he is a weak link? Because the system we now employ suits him far better. |
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Post by k1man999 on Oct 18, 2016 12:42:11 GMT 1
I see the Hudson haters have gone quiet recently. 12 Games in to the season and we have the best defence in the league which Hudson is part of. Do the haters still think he is a weak link? I was never a Hudson hater could just see some deficiency in his game which I will stand by. As shown against wednesday when teams sit in you need your CB to carry the ball forward more or be able to pick a pass hence why I think Hogg and Mooy drop back deeper than they should or want to. Heff in his sole game at the back showed he can do this which Hudson can't however defence wise he has been solid and a good leader hence why he is still in the team doing his primary job first and foremost. |
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Post by benhomly on Oct 18, 2016 12:51:55 GMT 1
I see the Hudson haters have gone quiet recently. 12 Games in to the season and we have the best defence in the league which Hudson is part of. Do the haters still think he is a weak link? I was never a Hudson hater could just see some deficiency in his game which I will stand by. As shown against wednesday when teams sit in you need your CB to carry the ball forward more or be able to pick a pass hence why I think Hogg and Mooy drop back deeper than they should or want to. Heff in his sole game at the back showed he can do this which Hudson can't however defence wise he has been solid and a good leader hence why he is still in the team doing his primary job first and foremost. I don't think Sedge was looking for reasoned responses like this, I think he's after a bite  |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Oct 18, 2016 13:16:03 GMT 1
I see the Hudson haters have gone quiet recently. 12 Games in to the season and we have the best defence in the league which Hudson is part of. Do the haters still think he is a weak link? Worst player on the pitch Sunday by a country mile...go back and watch the game again focusing on Hudson. Slow, turned several times, out of position often, fell over twice in the box when it was easier to clear. Think he won 1 header. Even his pedestrian side passes back to Hogg and Schindler (about 15 of them) were ponderous beyond belief. I dont get it. He still does the switch over with Schindler when it comes down our left, Hudson takes the nearest CB position and Schindler backs him up, i reckon thats a definite management decision because Hudson last/back man would be a disaster. Nice fella, working hard, leading the troops..but a big, fat liability. |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Oct 18, 2016 13:31:29 GMT 1
Defending is largely damage limitation. The defence is organised in a way to limit the exposure of Hudson's weaknesses, as you do with any other player. Sensible management and coaching. Hefele perhaps waiting in the wings for when Hudson decides to concentrate on coaching full time?
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 18, 2016 14:08:31 GMT 1
Defending is largely damage limitation. The defence is organised in a way to limit the exposure of Hudson's weaknesses, as you do with any other player. Sensible management and coaching. Hefele perhaps waiting in the wings for when Hudson decides to concentrate on coaching full time? Haven't seen any sign of that. Smith plays well in front of him and so Huddy is exposed more than covered by defensive organisation. He was badly exposed early on when Forestieri waltzed round him. Thought Huddy's work in the box was ok - but out of it and he rarely has a prayer when one on one. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 18, 2016 14:12:15 GMT 1
I see the Hudson haters have gone quiet recently. 12 Games in to the season and we have the best defence in the league which Hudson is part of. Do the haters still think he is a weak link? Worst player on the pitch Sunday by a country mile...go back and watch the game again focusing on Hudson. Slow, turned several times, out of position often, fell over twice in the box when it was easier to clear. Think he won 1 header. Even his pedestrian side passes back to Hogg and Schindler (about 15 of them) were ponderous beyond belief. I dont get it. He still does the switch over with Schindler when it comes down our left, Hudson takes the nearest CB position and Schindler backs him up, i reckon thats a definite management decision because Hudson last/back man would be a disaster. Nice fella, working hard, leading the troops..but a big, fat liability. Just watched the first half again from the recording. The weaknesses about Huddy didn't really impact us. Town were really very good in the first half and Wednesday had very little apart from the corners in the 4/5th minutes. VLP was excellent also – huge amount of running and skinning opposition players from first to last minute. He gave the ball away once in injury time at the end of the first half. His crossing was really quite good – managed to beat the first man every time and created some good situations in and around the box. Every time we passed it round at the back – it nearly always resulted in us finding a space forward and created many opportunities around their box. Mooy also had a mammoth first half with a good proportion of passing the ball forward rather than sideways when the opportunity arose. His running was strong. Twice he was in on moves which started around the edge of our box and ended with him going full length and ending up in their box. Palmer was a little disappointing in that he didn’t get in the game for the first 30 minutes. Don’t know if it was by plan but as soon as he started dropping back a bit deeper he started linking up with more with Mooy and Hogg and got in to the game. If Wednesday are lauded as a good team in the division – then we were several times better than them – at least in the first half. Not looking forward to watching the second half again! |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2016 14:19:45 GMT 1
I see the Hudson haters have gone quiet recently. 12 Games in to the season and we have the best defence in the league which Hudson is part of. Do the haters still think he is a weak link? Yes. He was very poor on Sunday, caught out of position in the build up to the goal line scramble in the first half and haplessly slow at times, as seen when Forestieri hit the post chipping Ward. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 18, 2016 14:24:16 GMT 1
I see the Hudson haters have gone quiet recently. 12 Games in to the season and we have the best defence in the league which Hudson is part of. Do the haters still think he is a weak link? I was never a Hudson hater could just see some deficiency in his game which I will stand by. As shown against wednesday when teams sit in you need your CB to carry the ball forward more or be able to pick a pass hence why I think Hogg and Mooy drop back deeper than they should or want to. Heff in his sole game at the back showed he can do this which Hudson can't however defence wise he has been solid and a good leader hence why he is still in the team doing his primary job first and foremost. That's one thing I wouldn't blame him too much for. Sure he knows his limitations in passing. All we need from him in these games is security in passing and not gifting it to the opposition - too often. |
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