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Post by detox on Jul 29, 2019 8:31:28 GMT 1
Not seen anything official yet?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 8:34:37 GMT 1
Not seen anything official yet? Bit early, his medical's today. |
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Post by londonterrier23 on Jul 29, 2019 8:59:35 GMT 1
The difference is the man, not the transfer. When we sold Boothy to Wednesday, we were all sad, but wished him well in the Prem', I even remember watching MOTD to see how he go on. When he came home we were pleased to have him back, and now he's a legend. Billing big hair, thanks for the money, could not care less if I never see you again. Another “difference” is the context of the club and the time. When boothy left - just promoted and still on the up. - replaces with Stewy and Payton (maybe same day if memory serves) - early days of internet. Monopoly on content distribution and production. Stories and coverage of our club very limited. Now / last 6 months - just relegated - peak negativity - toxic - social click bait era. Delight and disgust journalism. Although Boothy was a local lad and loved from the off. Pointless bringing booth Into it. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 29, 2019 9:19:02 GMT 1
I'm not saying Billing hasn't behaved like a bit of a knob . Though I wasn't there all i have is the club's word for it. And it's in the club's interest to present a story to the fans which is in the best interests of the club . But I always take this "loyalty" thing with a bit of a pinch of salt .. Boothy.. great player, club legend, fair enough . But would he have been grumbling when he got the opportunity to move to Wednesday? Doubt it . Would his agent have been pushing for the move ? Probably . Would he have come back to us when he did if he hadn't been crocked? Doubt it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 9:21:13 GMT 1
Billing has a lot of ability and a lot of potential, but with the money they earn these days (even at HTFC) any player who goes off on a sulk or thinks he's too big for the club should always be shown the door. I think £15 million plus a sell on is good business for us. Interesting that VLP was making similar noises but after a season struggling to make an impact at Middlesbrough, and with no offers coming on, he now seems happy to be back. Maybe VLP just wants to play football. He was a big part of our promotion, played a significant part of the team that stayed up, and then David Wagner lost his bottle. Any progressive attacking player with us last season would have wanted to get away having seen what kind of football we had resorted to. |
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Post by benhomly on Jul 29, 2019 10:22:26 GMT 1
Billing has a lot of ability and a lot of potential, but with the money they earn these days (even at HTFC) any player who goes off on a sulk or thinks he's too big for the club should always be shown the door. I think £15 million plus a sell on is good business for us. Interesting that VLP was making similar noises but after a season struggling to make an impact at Middlesbrough, and with no offers coming on, he now seems happy to be back. For a player who has started 61 games in 5 years I think it's amazing business for us. |
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Post by explorer on Jul 29, 2019 10:32:26 GMT 1
Not really sure where he’ll fit in at Bournemouth tbh. They tend to play a fast-breaking attacking style - see Ryan Fraser as an example. Can only see him playing DM, but tackling is not a great strength nor is harrying and chasing. Might not even be a starter, £15m for a squad player is peanuts in the PL. More tackles per game than any of our players last season and 15th best in the entire Premier League last season. If tackling isn't a great strength of his maybe he's a far better player than most people are making out. I presume you watch the games - do you consider Billing a strong tackler? If you were asked what his attributes as a footballer are - without recourse to a stats website - would you have listed tackling? Stats...the stats on the Town website has Hoggy down as our top tackler.The very detailed stats at Whoscored.com have Billing down as our “best player” last season. Statistically speaking. They also have Zanka second best and Mounie fourth best. What does that tell you about stats vs real world? 😉 I like PB as a player, just can’t see where he will be fitting in to Bournemouth’s style of play. The stats might say he’s a good DM, my eyes tell me otherwise. Maybe I should have gone to Specsavers 😎 |
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Post by Hank Hill on Jul 29, 2019 11:27:44 GMT 1
Sky Sports reporting that Billing passed his medical. Might be official by the end of the day.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jul 29, 2019 11:42:56 GMT 1
Sky Sports reporting that Billing passed his medical. Might be official by the end of the day. It would be much more entertaining if they had a medical, but also a hairstyle check as well. Be good to see a big money transfer fail due to an overtly long pony tail...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 12:08:56 GMT 1
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jul 29, 2019 12:10:07 GMT 1
Surely a very welcome 15 million in the bank is far more use to the club providing it is eventually spend wisely by someone who knows what they are doing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 12:13:17 GMT 1
Surely a very welcome 15 million in the bank is far more use to the club providing it is eventually spend wisely by someone who knows what they are doing I'll be delighted when its official, good business by the club. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 29, 2019 12:15:43 GMT 1
he has the potential to go far, but needs to sort himself out. Yes last season was a nightmare but he should have kept it all to himself.
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 29, 2019 12:16:52 GMT 1
Surely a very welcome 15 million in the bank is far more use to the club providing it is eventually spend wisely by someone who knows what they are doing. I think you’ll find both billing and smiths money goes towards this years wage bill. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 12:22:40 GMT 1
Surely a very welcome 15 million in the bank is far more use to the club providing it is eventually spend wisely by someone who knows what they are doing. I think you’ll find both billing and smiths money goes towards this years wage bill. Thanks for that HTAFC's financial director. |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Jul 29, 2019 12:25:16 GMT 1
I'm hoping the money might go in a fund in case it looks like we need to strengthen further in January. Will be interesting to see how he handles himself at Bournemouth, Howes seems to put store on having a good work ethic as a team. Whatever his ability it was clear at the start of this year he was looking to move on and 15 million is decent money coming to us. Excuse not to FF through Bournemouth's matches on MOTD.
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Post by Siehe grün on Jul 29, 2019 12:28:30 GMT 1
Surely a very welcome 15 million in the bank is far more use to the club providing it is eventually spend wisely by someone who knows what they are doing. I think you’ll find both billing and smiths money goes towards this years wage bill. I very much hope not. Weren’t we told that the parachute payments were to pay the wage bill and that further purchases were dependent on future sales? |
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Post by Mounié Talks on Jul 29, 2019 12:29:44 GMT 1
More tackles per game than any of our players last season and 15th best in the entire Premier League last season. If tackling isn't a great strength of his maybe he's a far better player than most people are making out. I presume you watch the games - do you consider Billing a strong tackler? If you were asked what his attributes as a footballer are - without recourse to a stats website - would you have listed tackling? Stats...the stats on the Town website has Hoggy down as our top tackler.The very detailed stats at Whoscored.com have Billing down as our “best player” last season. Statistically speaking. They also have Zanka second best and Mounie fourth best. What does that tell you about stats vs real world? 😉 I like PB as a player, just can’t see where he will be fitting in to Bournemouth’s style of play. The stats might say he’s a good DM, my eyes tell me otherwise. Maybe I should have gone to Specsavers 😎 How do you define strong tackler? Are you looking at somebody who makes hard get of your seat tackle and the ball goes for a throw in or are you judging in somebody who can nick the ball of another in the middle and gain possession in areas to affect the games or somebody who just breaks up play? Do you rate tackling over interceptions for instance? Player Stats can form part of an overall judgement and can be useful in certain cases and help form a judgement of a player as well as debunking certain opinions but they only tell half a story and provide no context into what happened before or after to create that scenario. They can also be very easily misused and twisted to form any argument, a player with 95% pass completion for argument would be a high commodity but if most of those passes were 5 yards passes between 2 centre backs or a midfield triangle but not affecting the game is that good? Likewise a player with a high tackle % may be making more tackles because of poor positioning but stats don't tell you that. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 29, 2019 12:30:12 GMT 1
I think you’ll find both billing and smiths money goes towards this years wage bill. I very much hope not. Weren’t we told that the parachute payments were to pay the wage bill and that further purchases were dependent on future sales? That's what I thought. |
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Post by Torquayterrier on Jul 29, 2019 12:39:10 GMT 1
I guess it depends on if any of the parachute money has gone on the ownership change. There was some talk on here that some of it may have gone to DH to pay what he was owed but I don't know if that was ever confirmed. If there was a shortfall by start of season then sale of players would help balance the books. If it was all cobblers then we should be in profit and hopefully the transfer money can help strenghten the squad at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 12:40:34 GMT 1
I very much hope not. Weren’t we told that the parachute payments were to pay the wage bill and that further purchases were dependent on future sales? That's what I thought. Me also but I very much doubt we'd spend all of what's received, I don't think that would be sensible. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jul 29, 2019 12:50:12 GMT 1
I’m assuming Town will have been planning on the assumption that Billing, Zanka and Sabiri will be sold this window. PH has said the club have replacements lined up and that transfer funds received will be used for new buys.
I suppose we’ll find out over the next 10 days if that happens, but at the very least it makes a nice nest egg for the January window, if necessary.
BTW, I see those posters I called out a couple of days ago that claim to know exactly what we spent and got for the likes of Mbenza and Smith declined to back up their claims with a response to my post on the matter. Now isn’t that a surprise?
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jul 29, 2019 12:52:22 GMT 1
I'm hoping the money might go in a fund in case it looks like we need to strengthen further in January. Will be interesting to see how he handles himself at Bournemouth, Howes seems to put store on having a good work ethic as a team. Whatever his ability it was clear at the start of this year he was looking to move on and 15 million is decent money coming to us. Excuse not to FF through Bournemouth's matches on MOTD. I used to FF through Town's games on MOTD, but it doesn't stand for fast forward... |
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Post by RickDangerous on Jul 29, 2019 12:59:25 GMT 1
Surely a very welcome 15 million in the bank is far more use to the club providing it is eventually spend wisely by someone who knows what they are doing. Player sales + next years parachute payment go towards the new white seats. Parachute payments for the year after are allocated also, they are going on some new nets, footballs and corner flags. |
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Post by benhomly on Jul 29, 2019 13:06:50 GMT 1
Surely a very welcome 15 million in the bank is far more use to the club providing it is eventually spend wisely by someone who knows what they are doing. Player sales + next years parachute payment go towards the new white seats. Parachute payments for the year after are allocated also, they are going on some new nets, footballs and corner flags. If there's a DATM end of season comedy award I doubt you'll be in the running. |
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Post by Maynardblue on Jul 29, 2019 13:09:17 GMT 1
I’m assuming Town will have been planning on the assumption that Billing, Zanka and Sabiri will be sold this window. PH has said the club have replacements lined up and that transfer funds received will be used for new buys. I suppose we’ll find out over the next 10 days if that happens, but at the very least it makes a nice nest egg for the January window, if necessary. BTW, I see those posters I called out a couple of days ago that claim to know exactly what we spent and got for the likes of Mbenza and Smith declined to back up their claims with a response to my post on the matter. Now isn’t that a surprise? Pretty sure Phil said replacements were lined up should we sell any of our key players... The 3 you mention don't fall into that category. They weren't even given squad numbers so there's nothing to replace |
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Post by Floyds on Jul 29, 2019 13:27:31 GMT 1
I’m assuming Town will have been planning on the assumption that Billing, Zanka and Sabiri will be sold this window. PH has said the club have replacements lined up and that transfer funds received will be used for new buys. I suppose we’ll find out over the next 10 days if that happens, but at the very least it makes a nice nest egg for the January window, if necessary. BTW, I see those posters I called out a couple of days ago that claim to know exactly what we spent and got for the likes of Mbenza and Smith declined to back up their claims with a response to my post on the matter. Now isn’t that a surprise? I thought the "replacements lined up" was for the eventuality we sold Mooy/Schindler/Kongolo this window and those mentioned above excluded from this - and the same for "1 in 1 out" policy. We'll see what happens soon enough though, I guess. *I somehow missed the post above. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2019 13:32:03 GMT 1
I’m assuming Town will have been planning on the assumption that Billing, Zanka and Sabiri will be sold this window. PH has said the club have replacements lined up and that transfer funds received will be used for new buys. I suppose we’ll find out over the next 10 days if that happens, but at the very least it makes a nice nest egg for the January window, if necessary. BTW, I see those posters I called out a couple of days ago that claim to know exactly what we spent and got for the likes of Mbenza and Smith declined to back up their claims with a response to my post on the matter. Now isn’t that a surprise? Pretty sure Phil said replacements were lined up should we sell any of our key players... The 3 you mention don't fall into that category. They weren't even given squad numbers so there's nothing to replace you make a fair point butdont be surprised if we do! |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jul 29, 2019 14:32:45 GMT 1
I’m assuming Town will have been planning on the assumption that Billing, Zanka and Sabiri will be sold this window. PH has said the club have replacements lined up and that transfer funds received will be used for new buys. I suppose we’ll find out over the next 10 days if that happens, but at the very least it makes a nice nest egg for the January window, if necessary. BTW, I see those posters I called out a couple of days ago that claim to know exactly what we spent and got for the likes of Mbenza and Smith declined to back up their claims with a response to my post on the matter. Now isn’t that a surprise? Pretty sure Phil said replacements were lined up should we sell any of our key players... The 3 you mention don't fall into that category. They weren't even given squad numbers so there's nothing to replace I realise all of that, but they must still have expected to, and planned for, receipt of good money for those players not given squad numbers. Care to state exactly what we got for Smith and Löwe and spent on Mbenza then, since you said you knew? Not interested in your source. |
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 29, 2019 15:25:52 GMT 1
Player sales + next years parachute payment go towards the new white seats. Parachute payments for the year after are allocated also, they are going on some new nets, footballs and corner flags. If there's a DATM end of season comedy award I doubt you'll be in the running. You say that, but the bar is set pretty low. |
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