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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 28, 2018 12:10:45 GMT 1
All we needed to do was with a few fringe player exceptions keep the squad together that kept us up last season. There must have been a brilliant Team spirit in the dressing room to get the results at Man City and Chelsea we did when on paper these matches were a mismatch of huge proportions. That achievement of staying up and dressing room spirit would have carried on in to this year. Add in perhaps one Wide Man that can cross a ball well and potentially we wouldn't need one but maybe one Striker. Not a grafter or a target Man. A goal poacher, a Dwight Gayle 'right place right time' type. Two Players, tops. Three if you include the excellent capture of Kongolo. Oh, and Play Pritchard. Exactly all we needed was Kongolo and a quality winger, boom done. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 28, 2018 12:11:32 GMT 1
All we needed to do was with a few fringe player exceptions keep the squad together that kept us up last season. There must have been a brilliant Team spirit in the dressing room to get the results at Man City and Chelsea we did when on paper these matches were a mismatch of huge proportions. That achievement of staying up and dressing room spirit would have carried on in to this year. Add in perhaps one Wide Man that can cross a ball well and potentially we wouldn't need one but maybe one Striker. Not a grafter or a target Man. A goal poacher, a Dwight Gayle 'right place right time' type. Two Players, tops. Three if you include the excellent capture of Kongolo. Oh, and Play Pritchard. This is bollox. Our points return in the second half of the season wouldn't be enough over a full season. The points we picked up early doors were due to the confidence of promotion, by Christmas we had been found out. If those players were so good and the team spirit fantastic, why did we only score 5 goals in our last 11 games? To stand a chance this seaosn we needed plenty of proven quality at this level. Town were never going to spend the money needed for that, so we are where we are |
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Post by jafa on Sept 28, 2018 12:14:38 GMT 1
We've never got over Webber leaving for Norwich and there was far too big a gap between Moss leaving and Olaf taking over - and Moss probably never had time to do anything. Potential recruitment etc left in the hands of junior staff for too long probably accounts for some of the problem.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 28, 2018 12:19:53 GMT 1
What does the phrase 'wait until they come good' actually mean? it's a bollocks statement with no basis to it. Like 'could do a job' means nothing.
Are we waiting for next season 6 games in? In fairness to the likes of Diakhaby he looked decent pre season, he's just forgotten how to play football since the season started.
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 28, 2018 12:23:33 GMT 1
All we needed to do was with a few fringe player exceptions keep the squad together that kept us up last season. There must have been a brilliant Team spirit in the dressing room to get the results at Man City and Chelsea we did when on paper these matches were a mismatch of huge proportions. That achievement of staying up and dressing room spirit would have carried on in to this year. Add in perhaps one Wide Man that can cross a ball well and potentially we wouldn't need one but maybe one Striker. Not a grafter or a target Man. A goal poacher, a Dwight Gayle 'right place right time' type. Two Players, tops. Three if you include the excellent capture of Kongolo. Oh, and Play Pritchard. This is bollox. Our points return in the second half of the season wouldn't be enough over a full season. The points we picked up early doors were due to the confidence of promotion, by Christmas we had been found out. If those players were so good and the team spirit fantastic, why did we only score 5 goals in our last 11 games? To stand a chance this seaosn we needed plenty of proven quality at this level. Town were never going to spend the money needed for that, so we are where we are You are contradicting yourself here. You are saying that we haven't got any better from last season but are not questioning our summer transfer business?. If we weren't going to be any better then why spend the money then?. And who knows what impact the new Players may or may not be having in the dressing room. Money rifts?, who knows!. Team spirit has and is our backbone. It underpins all that we have achieved (against all odds) over recent seasons. I don't believe it is there this season as it was last. Without this, we are an also-ran. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Sept 28, 2018 12:26:15 GMT 1
This is bollox. Our points return in the second half of the season wouldn't be enough over a full season. The points we picked up early doors were due to the confidence of promotion, by Christmas we had been found out. If those players were so good and the team spirit fantastic, why did we only score 5 goals in our last 11 games? To stand a chance this seaosn we needed plenty of proven quality at this level. Town were never going to spend the money needed for that, so we are where we are You are contradicting yourself here. You are saying that we haven't got any better from last season but are not questioning our summer transfer business?. If we weren't going to be any better then why spend the money then?. And who knows what impact the new Players may or may not be having in the dressing room. Money rifts?, who knows!. Team spirit has and is our backbone. It underpins all that we have achieved (against all odds) over recent seasons. Without this, we are an also-ran. We might be better once the new lads have settled in properly but it'll probably be too late to rescue the season. This season was always going to be twice as hard when you're not starting on the back of a confidence boosting play off final win The players came in to last season with no fear. They now have a years experience of getting hammered most weeks so it's no surprise their confidence is gone It'll be an absolute miracle if we survive |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 28, 2018 12:36:52 GMT 1
Saw a bit of Sobhi in the Pre-season game against Leipzig. He looked to have a good touch and fair bit of skill. He might be on the slow side but there's no point in having bags of pace if you can't trap a bag of cement (Diakhaby). Agree. He looks like he could be good in the 10 role, when we play 4:2:3:1 and want a bit more physicality than Pritchard. Not been able to properly judge whether he can spot a pass though, which if he can't blows a huge whole in my logic 😁 |
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Post by tobbyg on Sept 28, 2018 12:43:19 GMT 1
I know a stoke fan and he said "What on earth have you bought him for". But, ya know, folk that haven't really seen him play know better I guess. Or it could be more along the lines of trusting the club over Mole smooths “mate”. There’s not many of our better signings I can think of us making pre Wagner that would have come with glowing references from previous fans. |
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Post by Thwarting Dog on Sept 28, 2018 12:43:52 GMT 1
Think the club have had a bit of a mare with putting up the slogan "
The season starts against Cardiff "
Tottenham tomorrow free hit, well let's have a go then, time to roll up the sleeves and get in the War.
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Post by calken on Sept 28, 2018 12:43:53 GMT 1
Could playing two no 10s work out well? Players who constantly show themselves as available and can pass and move quickly together through the centre of the pitch.
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Post by tobbyg on Sept 28, 2018 12:46:22 GMT 1
Saw a bit of Sobhi in the Pre-season game against Leipzig. He looked to have a good touch and fair bit of skill. He might be on the slow side but there's no point in having bags of pace if you can't trap a bag of cement (Diakhaby). Agree. He looks like he could be good in the 10 role, when we play 4:2:3:1 and want a bit more physicality than Pritchard. Not been able to properly judge whether he can spot a pass though, which if he can't blows a huge whole in my logic 😁 Could be wrong but I think it was Sobhi with the clever assit for Diakhaby in preseason. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Sept 28, 2018 12:59:58 GMT 1
Think the club have had a bit of a mare with putting up the slogan " The season starts against Cardiff " Tottenham tomorrow free hit, well let's have a go then, time to roll up the sleeves and get in the War. The season will start against Burnley after Tottenham have gubbed us tomorrow. |
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Post by El Mel on Sept 28, 2018 13:19:00 GMT 1
I know a stoke fan and he said "What on earth have you bought him for". But, ya know, folk that haven't really seen him play know better I guess. Or it could be more along the lines of trusting the club over Mole smooths “mate”. There’s not many of our better signings I can think of us making pre Wagner that would have come with glowing references from previous fans. And there's plenty under Wagner that should we move on, wouldn't go with glowing references either. |
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Post by tobbyg on Sept 28, 2018 14:54:55 GMT 1
Or it could be more along the lines of trusting the club over Mole smooths “mate”. There’s not many of our better signings I can think of us making pre Wagner that would have come with glowing references from previous fans. And there's plenty under Wagner that should we move on, wouldn't go with glowing references either. Without a doubt there is at all clubs, players that have more ability than they’ve showed at the time. I said before Wagner because a lot of the players we’ve signed while he’s been here have come with good references. Sorry if it came across like I was complementing the man, I know you wouldn’t like that. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 28, 2018 17:07:46 GMT 1
Agree. He looks like he could be good in the 10 role, when we play 4:2:3:1 and want a bit more physicality than Pritchard. Not been able to properly judge whether he can spot a pass though, which if he can't blows a huge whole in my logic 😁 Could be wrong but I think it was Sobhi with the clever assit for Diakhaby in preseason. In Austria, oh yeah. I was there, but had a few sherberts by then 😂 |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Sept 28, 2018 18:30:29 GMT 1
Or it could be more along the lines of trusting the club over Mole smooths “mate”. There’s not many of our better signings I can think of us making pre Wagner that would have come with glowing references from previous fans. And there's plenty under Wagner that should we move on, wouldn't go with glowing references either. Such as? |
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Post by ritchie on Sept 28, 2018 20:14:51 GMT 1
We've never got over Webber leaving for Norwich and there was far too big a gap between Moss leaving and Olaf taking over - and Moss probably never had time to do anything. Potential recruitment etc left in the hands of junior staff for too long probably accounts for some of the problem. Not sure where you get that idea about webber. Obviously we can credit him with wagners appointment, but not sure how many transfer successes were down to him.... the likes of schindler, hef, kachunga will have been wagner, mooy iirc was offered to us. Also think some of our good signings in first PL season were to do with Moss (zanka and depoitre spring to mind) Think Moss leaving was a bigger shame than webber. Reckon he had a good eye |
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Post by morleyterrier on Sept 28, 2018 20:22:59 GMT 1
We've never got over Webber leaving for Norwich and there was far too big a gap between Moss leaving and Olaf taking over - and Moss probably never had time to do anything. Potential recruitment etc left in the hands of junior staff for too long probably accounts for some of the problem. Not sure where you get that idea about webber. Obviously we can credit him with wagners appointment, but not sure how many transfer successes were down to him.... the likes of schindler, hef, kachunga will have been wagner, mooy iirc was offered to us. Also think some of our good signings in first PL season were to do with Moss (zanka and depoitre spring to mind) Think Moss leaving was a bigger shame than webber. Reckon he had a good eye Ritchtea, you have got the best avatar on DATM. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Sept 28, 2018 20:35:18 GMT 1
We've never got over Webber leaving for Norwich and there was far too big a gap between Moss leaving and Olaf taking over - and Moss probably never had time to do anything. Potential recruitment etc left in the hands of junior staff for too long probably accounts for some of the problem. Not sure where you get that idea about webber. Obviously we can credit him with wagners appointment, but not sure how many transfer successes were down to him.... the likes of schindler, hef, kachunga will have been wagner, mooy iirc was offered to us. Also think some of our good signings in first PL season were to do with Moss (zanka and depoitre spring to mind) Think Moss leaving was a bigger shame than webber. Reckon he had a good eye Moss had to be good at Celtic because they had a very small budget. |
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Post by madrunner on Oct 3, 2018 16:42:43 GMT 1
Any news if he's training with the squad or still in recovery?
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Post by marshterrier on Oct 3, 2018 19:06:42 GMT 1
See Examiner web site for news on Sobhi & Williams. Basically, said it's a knock from training and bruising on the bone that can take a while longer. Says he should be fit for Liverpool match if selected.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 19:11:48 GMT 1
continue to play? won't leave in January? ffs he's hardly started to play yet |
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Post by ponteterrier on Nov 4, 2018 19:16:38 GMT 1
What the hell is about? The lads not even played so I'am not sure what his agent is making waves for. I saw some other click bait yesterday in regards to Mounies agent claiming he's better suited to the French top flight. Good luck getting someone to pay him out of our contract with his 0 goals and 0 assists this season |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 4, 2018 19:56:06 GMT 1
What the hell is about? The lads not even played so I'am not sure what his agent is making waves for. I saw some other click bait yesterday in regards to Mounies agent claiming he's better suited to the French top flight. Good luck getting someone to pay him out of our contract with his 0 goals and 0 assists this season Spot on, the bloke needs to start playing and earn his big fat contract. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Nov 4, 2018 20:19:30 GMT 1
Bloody hell, like rats jumping from a sinking ship. Only the players won't be saying this, just their nobhead agents out for their next big pay day
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Post by hantstownexile on Nov 4, 2018 20:26:52 GMT 1
Bloody hell, like rats jumping from a sinking ship. Only the players won't be saying this, just their nobhead agents out for their next big pay day Yes, but employed by the players. TTID |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 21:04:45 GMT 1
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink Ramadan Sobhi is of like a shot if we go down.....
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 4, 2018 21:11:48 GMT 1
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink Ramadan Sobhi is of like a shot if we go down..... Stoke fans were so glad to get rid, wonder if he will ever play or hep us ? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2018 21:18:33 GMT 1
Nudge, nudge, wink, wink Ramadan Sobhi is of like a shot if we go down..... Stoke fans were so glad to get rid, wonder if he will ever play or hep us ? Couldn't care less what Stoke fans think, only my thoughts count to me. You do realise a player can't play when injured....Right? Maybe tomorrow. |
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