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Post by terrierinsurrey on Jun 2, 2018 23:51:20 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 23:51:28 GMT 1
Considering the regularity with which threads descended into puns suggests we’ve got a lot of Dads on this forum. I think you're in de-nile mate. You want to have a go really. I don’t think I have the pap-EYE-rus for it..... poor first attempt |
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Post by upthetown on Jun 2, 2018 23:53:29 GMT 1
I think you're in de-nile mate. You want to have a go really. I don’t think I have the pap-EYE-rus for it..... poor first attempt Nile Points |
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Post by terrierinyork on Jun 2, 2018 23:54:09 GMT 1
Considering the regularity with which threads descended into puns suggests we’ve got a lot of Dads on this forum. We've just got to hope that his final ball is decent don't want his crosses and shots to end up in Cairo Z |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 23:54:38 GMT 1
Considering the regularity with which threads descended into puns suggests we’ve got a lot of Dads on this forum. There are a few too many pharaohmones ? |
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Post by bluestripe on Jun 2, 2018 23:59:20 GMT 1
I think you're in de-nile mate. You want to have a go really. I don’t think I have the pap-EYE-rus for it..... poor first attempt Suez that the best you can do?😀 |
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Post by hasta el pueblo on Jun 3, 2018 0:02:29 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2018 0:04:30 GMT 1
I don’t think I have the pap-EYE-rus for it..... poor first attempt Suez that the best you can do?😀 Come on, he admitted he’s Anoobis at puns. |
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Post by AndySk on Jun 3, 2018 0:04:57 GMT 1
Only a young lad, I wonder if he'll bring his mummy
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2018 0:05:48 GMT 1
Only a young lad, I wonder if he'll bring his mummy I think she’s a Cairopractor, might join the medical team? |
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Post by bluestripe on Jun 3, 2018 0:07:50 GMT 1
I'm feeling the love from them.😀 "Hope he does sign for them, he’s shite anyway" |
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Post by AndySk on Jun 3, 2018 0:10:46 GMT 1
I'm feeling the love from them.😀 "Hope he does sign for them, he’s shite anyway" League one is gonna be a massive shock to the system for some of them isn't it |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2018 0:18:30 GMT 1
Considering the regularity with which threads descended into puns suggests we’ve got a lot of Dads on this forum. and mummys |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 3, 2018 0:34:04 GMT 1
Looking at that video, he seems to have an air of unpredictability about him - you're never quite sure what he's going to do next, and with the level of technical abilty he seems capable of, that can only be a good thing. In terms of left-sided attackers, the only one who looked fully comfortable there was van la Parra, with our other attacking midfielders filling in (after all, Kachunga and Quaner were - strictly speaking - strikers when we signed them, and Ince is definitely more comfortable at the number 10 or right wing) - so having Sobhi there, who is actually capable of playing on the left to challenge VLP properly, may see better performances out of both VLP and him. After his comments in the press earlier this year, I'm expecting RVLP to leave this summer. My gut feeling on this transfer is... meh. For a club of our size he's not shit by any means and for most of our post war history, somebody of his quality would not just be great - he'd be amazing/unattainable. However in a position we really need to strengthen, I question whether he offers more than what we have already. Yes, it shows how far we've come that a £5m winger, who was a regular in the PL (albeit with a team that got relegated) doesn't particularly excite me but to me he looks like a slower version of RVLP. He'll get my backing, but this one is a bit of a head-scratcher for me. ETA: I'm not writing him off by any means. I won't declare any signing a success or failure until I've seen them play for us (for a decent amount of time). It's just speculation. This is how I feel. I’ve read the Stoke forum and all but a few are happy for him to leave, their description of him along with his EPL results and what I’ve seen of him, aren’t very flattering. At his current level, I don’t see him being an improvement on the squad, which to me is a compliment to our players. So naturally I feel a bit underwhelmed or as you say it, meh. It doesn’t mean I’m writing the bloke off. It doesn’t mean I won’t support him or sing his name. It also doesn’t mean that Wagner is right and I’m wrong. To come out and say that you would trust Wagner’s opinion over my opinion is just plain stupid. In life, we always need people to question and challenge the status quo, otherwise we just have a bunch of yes people that will never improve anything or possibly lead us down a destructive path (granted I don’t think Dave is doing that but I’m sure people behind the scenes are asking questions of him). I for one hope there are people questioning Wagner’s decisions behind the scenes and not just walking down a corridor, collecting a wage as an impostor, saying yes to everything that comes out of his mouth like some on here do. The difference on here is, those that ask the questions of Wagner at the club get an answer, whereas we have to wait to see the result and if we are lucky, we might get to hear what DW was thinking in a post match interview after Sobhi has carved up Chelsea. Having said all that, I would have no doubts that Wagner has rung his mate Klopp and he’s telling him that Salah thinks he’s a gun. He’s probably rang Flo’s mate Shaqiri who has said take this kid. At £5m he could become the signing of the summer(especially when you look at the English young guns, Maddison going for £20m+, Villa wanting £40m for Grealish), but most importantly we could now have room to move the chess pieces(our budget) and sign players with a bit more value like Kongolo. |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jun 3, 2018 0:51:43 GMT 1
After his comments in the press earlier this year, I'm expecting RVLP to leave this summer. My gut feeling on this transfer is... meh. For a club of our size he's not shit by any means and for most of our post war history, somebody of his quality would not just be great - he'd be amazing/unattainable. However in a position we really need to strengthen, I question whether he offers more than what we have already. Yes, it shows how far we've come that a £5m winger, who was a regular in the PL (albeit with a team that got relegated) doesn't particularly excite me but to me he looks like a slower version of RVLP. He'll get my backing, but this one is a bit of a head-scratcher for me. ETA: I'm not writing him off by any means. I won't declare any signing a success or failure until I've seen them play for us (for a decent amount of time). It's just speculation. This is how I feel. I’ve read the Stoke forum and all but a few are happy for him to leave, their description of him along with his EPL results and what I’ve seen of him, aren’t very flattering. At his current level, I don’t see him being an improvement on the squad, which to me is a compliment to our players. So naturally I feel a bit underwhelmed or as you say it, meh. It doesn’t mean I’m writing the bloke off. It doesn’t mean I won’t support him or sing his name. It also doesn’t mean that Wagner is right and I’m wrong. To come out and say that you would trust Wagner’s opinion over my opinion is just plain stupid. In life, we always need people to question and challenge the status quo, otherwise we just have a bunch of yes people that will never improve anything or possibly lead us down a destructive path (granted I don’t think Dave is doing that but I’m sure people behind the scenes are asking questions of him). I for one hope there are people questioning Wagner’s decisions behind the scenes and not just walking down a corridor, collecting a wage as an impostor, saying yes to everything that comes out of his mouth like some on here do. The difference on here is, those that ask the questions of Wagner at the club get an answer, whereas we have to wait to see the result and if we are lucky, we might get to hear what DW was thinking in a post match interview after Sobhi has carved up Chelsea. Having said all that, I would have no doubts that Wagner has rung his mate Klopp and he’s telling him that Salah thinks he’s a gun. He’s probably rang Flo’s mate Shaqiri who has said take this kid. At £5m he could become the signing of the summer(especially when you look at the English young guns, Maddison going for £20m+, Villa wanting £40m for Grealish), but most importantly we could now have room to move the chess pieces(our budget) and sign players with a bit more value like Kongolo. I guess I'm stupid then, to prefer the opinion of a UEFA qualified PL coach over a poster on DATM! |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 3, 2018 1:21:09 GMT 1
This is how I feel. I’ve read the Stoke forum and all but a few are happy for him to leave, their description of him along with his EPL results and what I’ve seen of him, aren’t very flattering. At his current level, I don’t see him being an improvement on the squad, which to me is a compliment to our players. So naturally I feel a bit underwhelmed or as you say it, meh. It doesn’t mean I’m writing the bloke off. It doesn’t mean I won’t support him or sing his name. It also doesn’t mean that Wagner is right and I’m wrong. To come out and say that you would trust Wagner’s opinion over my opinion is just plain stupid. In life, we always need people to question and challenge the status quo, otherwise we just have a bunch of yes people that will never improve anything or possibly lead us down a destructive path (granted I don’t think Dave is doing that but I’m sure people behind the scenes are asking questions of him). I for one hope there are people questioning Wagner’s decisions behind the scenes and not just walking down a corridor, collecting a wage as an impostor, saying yes to everything that comes out of his mouth like some on here do. The difference on here is, those that ask the questions of Wagner at the club get an answer, whereas we have to wait to see the result and if we are lucky, we might get to hear what DW was thinking in a post match interview after Sobhi has carved up Chelsea. Having said all that, I would have no doubts that Wagner has rung his mate Klopp and he’s telling him that Salah thinks he’s a gun. He’s probably rang Flo’s mate Shaqiri who has said take this kid. At £5m he could become the signing of the summer(especially when you look at the English young guns, Maddison going for £20m+, Villa wanting £40m for Grealish), but most importantly we could now have room to move the chess pieces(our budget) and sign players with a bit more value like Kongolo. I guess I'm stupid then, to prefer the opinion of a UEFA qualified PL coach over a poster on DATM! If that’s your opinion of yourself I think you need to work on your self esteem. Of course you will prefer the opinion of Wagner over mine. What makes it stupid is that it is obvious and adds nothing to a conversation other than to try and one up someone without having any opinion. It’s also comparable to saying, I’ll let Wagner select the team, when someone questions a players performance. Why? Of course Wagner selects the team! But what has that poster contributed to the conversation, fuck all of nothing. |
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Post by yoy on Jun 3, 2018 1:27:52 GMT 1
I guess I'm stupid then, to prefer the opinion of a UEFA qualified PL coach over a poster on DATM! If that’s your opinion of yourself I think you need to work on your self esteem. Of course you will prefer the opinion of Wagner over mine. What makes it stupid is that it is obvious and adds nothing to a conversation other than to try and one up someone without having any opinion. It’s also comparable to saying, I’ll let Wagner select the team, when someone questions a players performance. Why? Of course Wagner selects the team! But what has that poster contributed to the conversation, fuck all of nothing. To be fair, it was easy to misinterpret what you were saying. I do however agree your point - Wagner being a pro should not take away the ability of spectators to debate. That would be no fun! |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 3, 2018 1:41:25 GMT 1
If that’s your opinion of yourself I think you need to work on your self esteem. Of course you will prefer the opinion of Wagner over mine. What makes it stupid is that it is obvious and adds nothing to a conversation other than to try and one up someone without having any opinion. It’s also comparable to saying, I’ll let Wagner select the team, when someone questions a players performance. Why? Of course Wagner selects the team! But what has that poster contributed to the conversation, fuck all of nothing. To be fair, it was easy to misinterpret what you were saying. I do however agree your point - Wagner being a pro should not take away the ability of spectators to debate. That would be no fun! Thank you, on reading back I can see how this could be misinterpreted. The debate about this chap is the fun of it for me too. I actually felt underwhelmed by this lad potentially signing but as other posters have debated the positive side of Sobhi, I’ve become less underwhelmed and actually come to neutral on him. That happened because people on here added an opinion rather than acted all snobbish and that is what makes a great football forum. |
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Post by golcarexile on Jun 3, 2018 1:43:57 GMT 1
Tut tut. Let's not argue. We need to stand Aswan!
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Post by forzaredz on Jun 3, 2018 1:53:51 GMT 1
Hello guys.
Egyptian Here. I want to give some info about Ramadan Sobhi.
3 years ago he was one of the best prospects in Egypt and Africa.
he made it into Al-ahly team (Best team in Egypt and Africa) while he was around 17 years old.
He did really well for the club and joined the national team and became one of the most important players in both club and nt.
When he moved to stoke he didn't get so much playing time, but when he got the chance of playing he played really well and was one of the thier best players and their fans were excited about him.
After a short time he was suddenly dropped off for no reason and that realy ruined his confidence.
with low confidence and play time he has become a shadow of the player he realy was.
Now he is no where the player he was supposed to be.
lack of coaching, low confidence ,not enough playing time for a 20 years old lad is the major reasons of his failure. and of course he didn't do him self a favor and didn't improve his weakness points. so i don't exclude him from fault.
any way here is his strength and weakness points imo:
Positives: Young ,strong, good dribbler, tracks back and do his defensive work properly.
Negatives: low end product, not pacey enough.
for me the end product problem could be solved under good management (Specially that he is only 20).
and of course Wagner is a very good manager and i believe he is going to improve him a lot.
Any way Best of luck for you and him, And sorry for my bad English.
here is some of his highlights from his time at al-ahly and stoke.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jun 3, 2018 1:54:29 GMT 1
I guess I'm stupid then, to prefer the opinion of a UEFA qualified PL coach over a poster on DATM! If that’s your opinion of yourself I think you need to work on your self esteem. Of course you will prefer the opinion of Wagner over mine. What makes it stupid is that it is obvious and adds nothing to a conversation other than to try and one up someone without having any opinion. It’s also comparable to saying, I’ll let Wagner select the team, when someone questions a players performance. Why? Of course Wagner selects the team! But what has that poster contributed to the conversation, fuck all of nothing. My self esteem is fine and my ability to question anything anytime is alive and kicking, thank you very much. Calling folk stupid though for preferring one opinion over another is frankly embarrassing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2018 2:49:35 GMT 1
Hello guys. Egyptian Here. I want to give some info about Ramadan Sobhi. 3 years ago he was one of the best prospects in Egypt and Africa. he made it into Al-ahly team (Best team in Egypt and Africa) while he was around 17 years old. He did really well for the club and joined the national team and became one of the most important players in both club and nt. When he moved to stoke he didn't get so much playing time, but when he got the chance of playing he played really well and was one of the thier best players and their fans were excited about him. After a short time he was suddenly dropped off for no reason and that realy ruined his confidence. with low confidence and play time he has become a shadow of the player he realy was. Now he is no where the player he was supposed to be. lack of coaching, low confidence ,not enough playing time for a 20 years old lad is the major reasons of his failure. and of course he didn't do him self a favor and didn't improve his weakness points. so i don't exclude him from fault. any way here is his strength and weakness points imo: Positives: Young ,strong, good dribbler, tracks back and do his defensive work properly. Negatives: low end product, not pacey enough. for me the end product problem could be solved under good management (Specially that he is only 20). and of course Wagner is a very good manager and i believe he is going to improve him a lot. Any way Best of luck for you and him, And sorry for my bad English. here is some of his highlights from his time at al-ahly and stoke. Great post and your English is better than a lot of people on this board. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 3, 2018 2:54:24 GMT 1
If that’s your opinion of yourself I think you need to work on your self esteem. Of course you will prefer the opinion of Wagner over mine. What makes it stupid is that it is obvious and adds nothing to a conversation other than to try and one up someone without having any opinion. It’s also comparable to saying, I’ll let Wagner select the team, when someone questions a players performance. Why? Of course Wagner selects the team! But what has that poster contributed to the conversation, fuck all of nothing. My self esteem is fine and my ability to question anything anytime is alive and kicking, thank you very much. Calling folk stupid though for preferring one opinion over another is frankly embarrassing. In your opinion 😉😂 |
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Post by muffinman on Jun 3, 2018 3:11:19 GMT 1
Some awful defending in that first video, also worrying that his highlighted weakness is 'decisions'. And if he stands on the ball in a game for us I'll have a worse fit than when VLP does his silly bollocks thing when we are defending a lead.
Having said that the lad can clearly dribble and fingers crossed he can put a decent ball in the box!
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Post by JerryTheYank on Jun 3, 2018 3:28:57 GMT 1
Can't say I think "Sobhi's only as good as VLP or Quaner" is such a knock against signing him. Quaner's 26. VLP's 26. Sobhi's 21. If Player A and Player B are equally good today and Player B is five years younger than Player A, there's no question which one you'd expect to be better tomorrow. Unless Sobhi's work ethic isn't what it's alleged to be or he gets injured, signing him will strengthen the squad -- and at the position where the squad most needs to be strengthened.
Of course, it's worth asking if he'll strengthen it enough to justify spending £5M. But complaining that Wagner is signing a talented player whose value has been depressed by an unsuccessful move to a larger club is like complaining he speaks with an accent. It's who he is. Sobhi may or may not work out (assuming he signs), but we can't say there's anything wrong with the logic behind bringing him in.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 3, 2018 3:51:04 GMT 1
If that’s your opinion of yourself I think you need to work on your self esteem. Of course you will prefer the opinion of Wagner over mine. What makes it stupid is that it is obvious and adds nothing to a conversation other than to try and one up someone without having any opinion. It’s also comparable to saying, I’ll let Wagner select the team, when someone questions a players performance. Why? Of course Wagner selects the team! But what has that poster contributed to the conversation, fuck all of nothing. My self esteem is fine and my ability to question anything anytime is alive and kicking, thank you very much. Calling folk stupid though for preferring one opinion over another is frankly embarrassing. I haven’t called anyone stupid for preferring one opinion over another. I don’t think you get what I’m saying Doc? What I called stupid is to use DW’s opinion to back up an opinion, insinuating that poster can’t be wrong to try shut down a discussion. Or to have no opinion at all, other than to say I’ll back DW’s opinion over an anonymous persons opinion. Having DW’s opinion is not actually having an opinion because unless you have actually spoken to DW you don’t actually know his opinion. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 3, 2018 3:53:29 GMT 1
My self esteem is fine and my ability to question anything anytime is alive and kicking, thank you very much. Calling folk stupid though for preferring one opinion over another is frankly embarrassing. In your opinion 😉😂 I’ll go with your opinion  |
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Post by forzaredz on Jun 3, 2018 5:53:44 GMT 1
Great post and your English is better than a lot of people on this board. Thank you so much |
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Post by forzaredz on Jun 3, 2018 6:17:34 GMT 1
Some awful defending in that first video, also worrying that his highlighted weakness is 'decisions'. And if he stands on the ball in a game for us I'll have a worse fit than when VLP does his silly bollocks thing when we are defending a lead. Having said that the lad can clearly dribble and fingers crossed he can put a decent ball in the box! I agree but even in the second video he almost did the same to the defenders, So as you mentioned he is a good dribbler anyway. Standing in the ball was against our rivals 'Zamalek'. He made it once and there was a great fuss on it and he apologized for them. But he did it against them again next match lol.
anyway he was very young at the time and i think he grew up now. and yes his decisions is a weakness that's why his end product in not what it should be. But i believe a good manager like Wagner will improve it. See Salah at basel and Chelsea and compare him to Salah of Fiorintina and Roma, never mind liverpool , You will see how confidence and good coaching can do to a player with good potentials.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jun 3, 2018 7:22:44 GMT 1
Has anybody considered that Sobhi might be a replacement for Sabiri who seems to be off out on loan? I don't remember all this fuss about Sabiri who was completely untried and tested. This lad is 21, he is an international who will play at the world cup. He has played his last 2 years at PL level and has won titles with the biggest club in Africa. I think there are a few town fans falling into the trap that Stoke appear to have fallen into of thinking they are better than they are. Give the kid a chance ffs.
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