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Post by drumriggend on May 17, 2019 1:04:54 GMT 1
Said it before will say it again... "A woman will play for the first team in football within the next 10 years". Will they fook.. Ist team in what lg bro??? Your havin a laugh If the england womens team were playing in my back garden... Id draw the curtains.. š |
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Post by hd2 on May 17, 2019 1:36:33 GMT 1
Said it before will say it again... "A woman will play for the first team in football within the next 10 years". Sorry but absolutely no chance. |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on May 17, 2019 7:48:05 GMT 1
Drumriggend's remark about closing his curtains if a women's team played in his back garden got me thinking as to whether there's any old footage of large crowds watching them play. And there is actually something. Here's a clip of women's football in the 1920's:
Love the berets worn by the French team :-)
Didn't realize they were getting crowds like that in 1920, although they were probably one-off occasions.
Soon after that, the FA banned football being played by women on its members' football grounds for 50 years (1921 - 1971).
Women's football was pretty much on its arse for over 5 decades - so the media giving it a helping hand up again isn't really doing anybody any harm imo.
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on May 17, 2019 9:20:43 GMT 1
Said it before will say it again... "A woman will play for the first team in football within the next 10 years". The way he got physically dominated, maybe Flo has already managed it? In reality,. no it won;t happen., ever. And neither should it. Take the most physically strong female player now and put them in the professional mens game and whilst her technique might be good enough, she would be completely bullied out of it if the opposition played against her in the same way they would a man. Which of course most wouldn;t be inclined to do. Womens football is good ( apart from the goalkeeping ). Its growing and thats a great thing all round. The amount of media coverage of it compared to the actual interest in it is totally off the scale though. Have you seen the kids at school now? Some of the girls have been playing since they could walk. I suspect it's football mad dad's that have put their girls into football clubs. This is a relatively new option which girls of older generations won't have done. As for the physical side of it... Have you seen the skinny jean wearing, boy and loving kids? .... I'm not saying it will be common place but there will be a once-in-a-generation female who does make that step up. |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on May 17, 2019 9:21:24 GMT 1
Drumriggend's remark about closing his curtains if a women's team played in his back garden got me thinking as to whether there's any old footage of large crowds watching them play. And there is actually something. Here's a clip of women's football in the 1920's: Love the berets worn by the French team :-) Didn't realize they were getting crowds like that in 1920, although they were probably one-off occasions. Soon after that, the FA banned football being played by women on its members' football grounds for 50 years (1921 - 1971). Women's football was pretty much on its arse for over 5 decades - so the media giving it a helping hand up again isn't really doing anybody any harm imo. Not a one off at all. Women's football was hugely popular. |
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Post by Porrohman on May 17, 2019 9:31:16 GMT 1
Said it before will say it again... "A woman will play for the first team in football within the next 10 years". Will they fook.. Ist team in what lg bro??? Your havin a laugh If the england womens team were playing in my back garden... Id draw the curtains.. š Why ? Their technique's as good as the mens team and they're definitely better looking š Check it out from 9min 10secs Only kidding, I do like watching womens football |
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on May 17, 2019 9:48:36 GMT 1
Drumriggend's remark about closing his curtains if a women's team played in his back garden got me thinking as to whether there's any old footage of large crowds watching them play. And there is actually something. Here's a clip of women's football in the 1920's: Love the berets worn by the French team :-) Didn't realize they were getting crowds like that in 1920, although they were probably one-off occasions. Soon after that, the FA banned football being played by women on its members' football grounds for 50 years (1921 - 1971). Women's football was pretty much on its arse for over 5 decades - so the media giving it a helping hand up again isn't really doing anybody any harm imo. Not a one off at all. Women's football was hugely popular. I was referring more to them getting huge crowds on a regular basis. Don't think that happened. Decent article on the era: www.vice.com/en_uk/article/jpwee3/throwback-thursday-womens-football-banned-by-the-faThe huge crowds mentioned are quite remarkable, really. I mean, we only got 19 000 for the last game of our first championship-winning season. Where it has been claimed the attendance was so low due to it raining on that particular day. I bet the women wouldn't have been scared of a bit of rain!! :-) |
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Post by Torquayterrier on May 17, 2019 9:51:16 GMT 1
It's not a question of if a particular female might be of a standard to play in a male team or not, it would take a wholesale change in sport whereby mainstream team sports regularly had mixed sex teams and I can't see that happening in the next 10 years. There's a watered down form of rugby that allows mixed teams but I think that's it as far as ball sports is concerned. Even sports like hockey remain segregated. There will be a female ref in the prem before there's a female player.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 17, 2019 9:53:22 GMT 1
The way he got physically dominated, maybe Flo has already managed it? In reality,. no it won;t happen., ever. And neither should it. Take the most physically strong female player now and put them in the professional mens game and whilst her technique might be good enough, she would be completely bullied out of it if the opposition played against her in the same way they would a man. Which of course most wouldn;t be inclined to do. Womens football is good ( apart from the goalkeeping ). Its growing and thats a great thing all round. The amount of media coverage of it compared to the actual interest in it is totally off the scale though. Have you seen the kids at school now? Some of the girls have been playing since they could walk. I suspect it's football mad dad's that have put their girls into football clubs. This is a relatively new option which girls of older generations won't have done. As for the physical side of it... Have you seen the skinny jean wearing, boy and loving kids? .... I'm not saying it will be common place but there will be a once-in-a-generation female who does make that step up.There won;t be because she wouldn;t be allowed to. Which is quite right IMO. Even if this once in a lifetime woman who is physically strong enough to match her male counterparts turned up, it would be wholly unfair on her opponents to put them in a position where they have to foul, physically bully or potentially hurt a girl. Most men just aren't going to want to do that. It goes against their core beliefs as men. So even if she existed, it should never be allowed. In a physical sport that involved no contact like sprinting, theres that South African female athlete with such a hormone imbalance she is basically of mixed sex and wins all the time by some distance.. but she would be nowhere if she ran in the mens competitions. |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 17, 2019 9:55:59 GMT 1
It's not a question of if a particular female might be of a standard to play in a male team or not, it would take a wholesale change in sport whereby mainstream team sports regularly had mixed sex teams and I can't see that happening in the next 10 years. There's a watered down form of rugby that allows mixed teams but I think that's it as far as ball sports is concerned. Even sports like hockey remain segregated. There will be a female ref in the prem before there's a female player. Yes can definitely see a female ref in the not too distant future. No reason why they shouldn;t if theyre good enough. My only concern would be they are shunted up the pecking order without being good enough for nothing more PC reasons. We had that with Uriah Rennie IMO a few years ago. |
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Post by Torquayterrier on May 17, 2019 9:59:52 GMT 1
In fact it's already happened in the Bundesliga, Bibiana Steinhaus but I don't think it's particularly PC driven, she's been well rated at internationals for some time.
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Post by Five Lamps on May 17, 2019 10:17:37 GMT 1
Anyone else looking forward to the World Cup?
I feel for Izzy Christiansen missing out of the squad through injury, I think she's one of the best we've got. As long as Kirby stays fit, I reckon we've got a decent chance.
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 17, 2019 10:38:10 GMT 1
you watch football matches and you know the standard that you will see before it starts..
being let down by non league football or a ladies game is probably your own problem..
having been let down for 2 years by quite a number of premier league games has not soured my view when watching a 'lower standard' game..
you really should 'get what you pay for'...
a 'good' football match can be good for all sorts of reasons other than the 'quality' of the midfield passing or having central defenders who are 'comfortable' on the ball etc?
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Post by Torquayterrier on May 17, 2019 11:19:22 GMT 1
Anyone else looking forward to the World Cup? I feel for Izzy Christiansen missing out of the squad through injury, I think she's one of the best we've got. As long as Kirby stays fit, I reckon we've got a decent chance. I try to watch the internationals, don't watch much domestic stuff. Been watching England's womens team on the box since Kelly Smith was in her heyday. The overall standard has improved massively over last 10 years or so. |
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2019 11:56:42 GMT 1
Said it before will say it again... "A woman will play for the first team in football within the next 10 years". The way he got physically dominated, maybe Flo has already managed it? In reality,. no it won;t happen., ever. And neither should it. Take the most physically strong female player now and put them in the professional mens game and whilst her technique might be good enough, she would be completely bullied out of it if the opposition played against her in the same way they would a man. Which of course most wouldn;t be inclined to do. Womens football is good ( apart from the goalkeeping ). Its growing and thats a great thing all round. The amount of media coverage of it compared to the actual interest in it is totally off the scale though. Iāve played against three teams with a woman in them. One, the lady was well known, and good tactically and technically, but just not really quick or physical enough, and I (and the others in my team) did kind of give her a bit of leeway/respect which kind of evened things up a little (and actually probably made for a better / cleaner game all round to be honest). Another game I didnāt even realise it was a lady I was against until I took her out with a big sliding challenge in the opening minute and ended up all entangled when it soon became very obvious!! I was booed and caught late a lot for the next twenty minutes or so!! The girl herself actually seemed to like that Iād gone in hard and not gone easy on her and we had quite a good personal battle for the rest of the game, although my natural behaviour was to stand off and just try and cut out any passes rather than tackle her, and just dribble with skill or pace past her at every opportunity where Iād normally look for a pass if up against a āmanā. The third I was playing against someone who now plays in the 3rd tier of the game and she absolutely battered me from start to finish, elbows, knees in the back, jumping right through me when challenging for balls in the air etc...I gave up playing not long after!! Thatās all by the way and is just my own limited exposure...I did quite enjoy the challenge of all three encounters to be honest but youāre right even in a really non competitive level of football itās just very difficult to play your normal game and not āgo easyā when up against a lady...however, the final encounter above, does make me acknowledge there are females out there better at football than some men, even when played equally...it would be interesting to take the worlds best ladies, and seeing at what level of the menās game they could actually perform at without being totally dominated, I suspect the worlds best ladies are in reality at about the level of say Guiseley??? On the other hand, Scott Malone has just been in a team that has got to a Championship play off final, and has played in the EPL...so maybe they could play at a higher level than I think? |
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Post by Mastercracker on May 17, 2019 12:30:44 GMT 1
Said it before will say it again... "A woman will play for the first team in football within the next 10 years". The way he got physically dominated, maybe Flo has already managed it? In reality,. no it won;t happen., ever. And neither should it. Take the most physically strong female player now and put them in the professional mens game and whilst her technique might be good enough, she would be completely bullied out of it if the opposition played against her in the same way they would a man. Which of course most wouldn;t be inclined to do. Womens football is good ( apart from the goalkeeping ). Its growing and thats a great thing all round. The amount of media coverage of it compared to the actual interest in it is totally off the scale though. The BBC are fuckers for slapping up womens football stories as the main headline on BBC sport, when in reality far more people are interested if Crewe have sacked their manager. |
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Post by Uddersfield on May 17, 2019 12:30:58 GMT 1
Said it before will say it again... "A woman will play for the first team in football within the next 10 years". I'm glad the marketing of womans football has come on leaps and bounds. I'll be definitely watching the World Cup in the next coming weeks. But there's not a chance that a woman will be playing men's football. Ever. |
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Post by 28901 on May 17, 2019 12:34:49 GMT 1
It's not a question of if a particular female might be of a standard to play in a male team or not, it would take a wholesale change in sport whereby mainstream team sports regularly had mixed sex teams and I can't see that happening in the next 10 years. There's a watered down form of rugby that allows mixed teams but I think that's it as far as ball sports is concerned. Even sports like hockey remain segregated. There will be a female ref in the prem before there's a female player. Yes can definitely see a female ref in the not too distant future. No reason why they shouldn;t if theyre good enough. My only concern would be they are shunted up the pecking order without being good enough for nothing more PC reasons. We had that with Uriah Rennie IMO a few years ago. The woman who ran the line on kilner side last season was was probably the best I've seen in recent years. Mind you we have had some right tw*ts |
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Post by rastrick32 on May 17, 2019 12:39:02 GMT 1
The rise of women's football is great. It is creating a mindset change in the next generations which is outstanding.
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Post by 28901 on May 17, 2019 12:45:06 GMT 1
The way he got physically dominated, maybe Flo has already managed it? In reality,. no it won;t happen., ever. And neither should it. Take the most physically strong female player now and put them in the professional mens game and whilst her technique might be good enough, she would be completely bullied out of it if the opposition played against her in the same way they would a man. Which of course most wouldn;t be inclined to do. Womens football is good ( apart from the goalkeeping ). Its growing and thats a great thing all round. The amount of media coverage of it compared to the actual interest in it is totally off the scale though. The BBC are fuckers for slapping up womens football stories as the main headline on BBC sport, when in reality far more people are interested if Crewe have sacked their manager. Undoubtedly true. Also sports bulletin on Radio 4, some woman's game gets a mention but nothing on a crucial championship match. No one really cares how Man City ladies got on. It used to annoy me but then again when you think about it if the BBC don't promote it who will? They cannot compete to bring coverage of top interest sporting events so maybe they should go down the route of promoting women's football and lesser know sports. Public service rather than profit making.
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Post by Mastercracker on May 17, 2019 12:50:07 GMT 1
The BBC are fuckers for slapping up womens football stories as the main headline on BBC sport, when in reality far more people are interested if Crewe have sacked their manager. Undoubtedly true. Also sports bulletin on Radio 4, some woman's game gets a mention but nothing on a crucial championship match. No one really cares how Man City ladies got on. It used to annoy me but then again when you think about it if the BBC don't promote it who will? They cannot compete to bring coverage of top interest sporting events so maybe they should go down the route of promoting women's football and lesser know sports. Public service rather than profit making.
Fair analysis but as a public service broadcaster should they not report on what they majority of their paying customers are interested in? I have football mad women in my family and they don't give a shit about womens football either. Think it should be left to grow naturally (or not at all) rather than forced. |
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Post by Uddersfield on May 17, 2019 12:51:41 GMT 1
The BBC are fuckers for slapping up womens football stories as the main headline on BBC sport, when in reality far more people are interested if Crewe have sacked their manager. Undoubtedly true. Also sports bulletin on Radio 4, some woman's game gets a mention but nothing on a crucial championship match. No one really cares how Man City ladies got on. It used to annoy me but then again when you think about it if the BBC don't promote it who will? They cannot compete to bring coverage of top interest sporting events so maybe they should go down the route of promoting women's football and lesser know sports. Public service rather than profit making.
May possibly be a matter of time until Match of the Day start showing highlights of the Woman's Premier League as well as. |
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Post by huddshroom on May 17, 2019 13:03:58 GMT 1
Undoubtedly true. Also sports bulletin on Radio 4, some woman's game gets a mention but nothing on a crucial championship match. No one really cares how Man City ladies got on. It used to annoy me but then again when you think about it if the BBC don't promote it who will? They cannot compete to bring coverage of top interest sporting events so maybe they should go down the route of promoting women's football and lesser know sports. Public service rather than profit making.
May possibly be a matter of time until Match of the Day start showing highlights of the Woman's Premier League as well as. Super League* |
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Post by Porrohman on May 17, 2019 13:21:26 GMT 1
Undoubtedly true. Also sports bulletin on Radio 4, some woman's game gets a mention but nothing on a crucial championship match. No one really cares how Man City ladies got on. It used to annoy me but thenĀ again when you think about it if the BBC don't promote it who will? They cannot compete to bring coverage of top interest sportingĀ eventsĀ so maybe they should go down the route of promoting women's football and lesser know sports. Public service rather than profit making.Ā
May possibly be a matter of time until Match of the Day start showing highlights of the Woman's Premier League as well as. Sunday nights after the old boys club on MOTD 2 |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on May 17, 2019 13:40:12 GMT 1
Have you seen the kids at school now? Some of the girls have been playing since they could walk. I suspect it's football mad dad's that have put their girls into football clubs. This is a relatively new option which girls of older generations won't have done. As for the physical side of it... Have you seen the skinny jean wearing, boy and loving kids? .... I'm not saying it will be common place but there will be a once-in-a-generation female who does make that step up.There won;t be because she wouldn;t be allowed to. Which is quite right IMO. Even if this once in a lifetime woman who is physically strong enough to match her male counterparts turned up, it would be wholly unfair on her opponents to put them in a position where they have to foul, physically bully or potentially hurt a girl. Most men just aren't going to want to do that. It goes against their core beliefs as men. So even if she existed, it should never be allowed. In a physical sport that involved no contact like sprinting, theres that South African female athlete with such a hormone imbalance she is basically of mixed sex and wins all the time by some distance.. but she would be nowhere if she ran in the mens competitions. You think that the rules will still opt for segregation if one came through who was good enough? The rules will change to say that anyone can play for a first team. The point will be that they will have to be good enough. 99.999999% wont be. And I concede that it will likely be a short lived thing, but I believe it will happen. Some of the kids who have been playing from 2 year old have ridiculous ability. |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on May 17, 2019 13:43:22 GMT 1
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Post by Captainslapper on May 17, 2019 14:10:12 GMT 1
The girl herself actually seemed to like that Iād gone in hard They usually do.  |
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Post by 28901 on May 17, 2019 16:52:19 GMT 1
Undoubtedly true. Also sports bulletin on Radio 4, some woman's game gets a mention but nothing on a crucial championship match. No one really cares how Man City ladies got on. It used to annoy me but then again when you think about it if the BBC don't promote it who will? They cannot compete to bring coverage of top interest sporting events so maybe they should go down the route of promoting women's football and lesser know sports. Public service rather than profit making.
Fair analysis but as a public service broadcaster should they not report on what they majority of their paying customers are interested in? I have football mad women in my family and they don't give a shit about womens football either. Think it should be left to grow naturally (or not at all) rather than forced. If that was the case wouldn't we be all listening to bland pop music (the kind some on here enjoy clapping cardboard along to) etc?. or watching high ratings shit reality tv programmes? Sometimes you need to be pushed off the down a side road to appreciate, become interested in something a bit different.. I genuinely have no interest in the results of womens football matches but I do enjoy watching it now.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 18, 2019 22:47:39 GMT 1
There will never be a woman good enough for top level football...not even National league. FACT.
Take any sport you like....nowhere near.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 18, 2019 22:55:24 GMT 1
There will never be a woman good enough for top level football...not even National league. FACT. Take any sport you like....nowhere near. And you would never have been good enough to get into a woman's third division team. What's your point ? |
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