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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 18, 2019 23:04:41 GMT 1
The rise of women's football is great. It is creating a mindset change in the next generations which is outstanding. This is the thing that's ignored. I expect most commenting here are at least north of 40 & probably then some. People are looking at it from the perspective of the last time they laced up their boots 25-30 yrs ago. Times are changing. It might not happen in ten yrs, but the way things are heading I wouldn't discount it happening. It might even be a middle ground, separate blokes/womens leagues and then a mixed league... |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 18, 2019 23:07:39 GMT 1
The day a woman in a Burkha springs the offside trap is the day Oti self combusts
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Post by Porrohman on May 18, 2019 23:09:22 GMT 1
The rise of women's football is great. It is creating a mindset change in the next generations which is outstanding. This is the thing that's ignored. I expect most commenting here are at least north of 40 & probably then some. People are looking at it from the perspective of the last time they laced up their boots 25-30 yrs ago. Times are changing. It might not happen in ten yrs, but the way things are heading I wouldn't discount it happening. It might even be a middle ground, separate blokes/womens leagues and then a mixed league... I can't see the sexes combining but there's no reason, given time, the womens game couldn't make large inroads into the mans. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 19, 2019 0:15:23 GMT 1
There will never be a woman good enough for top level football...not even National league. FACT. Take any sport you like....nowhere near. And you would never have been good enough to get into a woman's third division team. What's your point ? The point, before you jump down my throat, was the earlier debate about women playing top level. I once played against Town ladies who were the about 4th best in England in 1994....we beat them.... and we were not even Sunday league standard. I think their game has moved on hugely...still a waste of TV airtime. Women are nowhere near mens level in ANY sport (OK, 5% out in ultra-running)...that also translates in to much of life despite what you and your hand-wringing buddies think. Equal rights and equal pay...now get to the bar luv. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 19, 2019 0:17:08 GMT 1
The day a woman in a Burkha springs the offside trap is the day Oti self combusts Springs a booby trap more like. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 19, 2019 0:18:28 GMT 1
Jesus wept...there are more of them. Women will NEVER be good enough to compete. Look at snooker, boxing, swimming...any bloody thing. Miles off.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 19, 2019 0:25:09 GMT 1
The day a woman in a Burkha springs the offside trap is the day Oti self combusts Springs a booby trap more like. Or even a boob trap. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 19, 2019 0:27:36 GMT 1
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on May 19, 2019 0:33:03 GMT 1
And you would never have been good enough to get into a woman's third division team. What's your point ? The point, before you jump down my throat, was the earlier debate about women playing top level. I once played against Town ladies who were the about 4th best in England in 1994....we beat them.... and we were not even Sunday league standard. I think their game has moved on hugely...still a waste of TV airtime. Women are nowhere near mens level in ANY sport (OK, 5% out in ultra-running)...that also translates in to much of life despite what you and your hand-wringing buddies think. Equal rights and equal pay...now get to the bar luv. A few years ago before all the hype of over women's football, Stevenage (a none league team at the time) took on the England women's team in Spain where both of them were at the same training camp. Stevenage beat them 14-0. Now I know the women's game has moved on a bit in recent years but the suggestion that they could ever compete with men is just ludicrous. |
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Post by ACW on May 19, 2019 1:21:34 GMT 1
Jesus wept...there are more of them. Women will NEVER be good enough to compete. Look at snooker, boxing, swimming...any bloody thing. Miles off. Why do we have to judge women against men, and denigrate them as a result? Why can't we accept women's sport as separate from men's and appreciate it for what it is? Men obviously have biological advantages in terms of strength and speed, but as far as I am aware there is no reason why a woman cannot achieve the same skill level as a man. Some on here showing themselves up to be chauvinistic dinosaurs. But no surprise there. Women's sport is different to men's, but it still deserves to be celebrated and appreciated. Elite sportswomen are incredibly fit and highly-skilled, and should not have their achievements denegated by sexist men, with attitudes from the dark ages who should fuckin' know better. |
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Post by ACW on May 19, 2019 1:33:18 GMT 1
And you would never have been good enough to get into a woman's third division team. What's your point ? The point, before you jump down my throat, was the earlier debate about women playing top level. I once played against Town ladies who were the about 4th best in England in 1994....we beat them.... and we were not even Sunday league standard. I think their game has moved on hugely...still a waste of TV airtime. Women are nowhere near mens level in ANY sport (OK, 5% out in ultra-running)...that also translates in to much of life despite what you and your hand-wringing buddies think. Equal rights and equal pay...now get to the bar luv. "That also translates into much of life" ? So women are nowhere near men's level in most aspects of life? Absolute fuckin' bollox. Oti, you're a fuckin' embarrassment. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 19, 2019 9:08:36 GMT 1
And you would never have been good enough to get into a woman's third division team. What's your point ? The point, before you jump down my throat, was the earlier debate about women playing top level. I once played against Town ladies who were the about 4th best in England in 1994....we beat them.... and we were not even Sunday league standard. I think their game has moved on hugely...still a waste of TV airtime. Women are nowhere near mens level in ANY sport (OK, 5% out in ultra-running)...that also translates in to much of life despite what you and your hand-wringing buddies think. Equal rights and equal pay...now get to the bar luv. "Hand wringing buddies " what does that even mean ? Another ridiculous "alt right " slur of choice that means nothing. In line in fact with much of your vapid nonsense. 're equal pay I'm not sure you noticed but we live in a capitalist society so it's all about supply and demand. If the demand for women's football exceeded the men's game they might even get paid more and wow wouldn't you be getting your britches in a twist then. But obviously that won't be happening any time soon Equal rights. Shouldn't that be something we should all be promoting ? So not sure what you're on about there. You saying you once played town ladies in 1994 and you were as good is like saying you were as good on the internet as Mark zuckerberg in 1994. The game has slightly moved on since then . What a shame that the rhetoric of the sexist dinosaur hasn't moved at quite a fast a pace. But do you know what Oti in some ways I agree with you. Women aren't going to be as good as men at football certainly any time soon and possibly never ever.. but how is that the point ? ( and it's a point you anually love to ram home in a nar nana nar nar way whenever you get the platform) . Does it make it any less valid ? Of course not.. why do you take delight from denigrating half of the world's population ? ( make it about 90% when you add " them there darkies and them there Moslems ) . Does the fact that town aren't and probably never will be as good as Barcelona mean that we shouldn't go trudging down south in sub zero temperatures to watch them ? Does that mean we don't "deserve " to be on tv ? " still a waste of tv airtime " . What the fuck ? You do know that there is a lot of " airtime" out there these days ? We aren't living in the days of the testcard and getting all giddy because Richard whiteleys countdown has ushered in an era of FOUR channels. The world has moved on. The dinosaur extinct. Another bit of startling information for you Mr Tyrannosaur..... The BBC no longer has the financial muscle to be able to show ANY of what could be described as the high ranking sports. The final at the crucible is as giddy as it gets for the BBC these days . So it isn't as if this Inferior female product is somehow replacing the superior male stuff. I've never watched a full game of women's football in my life. Id rathwr watch you show me your collection of settees. But then again I've never watched a French League 1 game ever, or a German game. Some people would watch a ball getting kicked around by anyone but for me it's not about the football or the skills on display. It's about the heritage and the history and the team allegiance. In mainstream terms the women's game has little of this for me ( maybe I'm a dinosaur too ) but in time it will have. The rate of growth is huge and fantastic . How wonderful that I can take my little girl to football and if she chooses to she has female role models to aspire to. How amazing that she can ask the boys for a game without fear of being told to piss off by the little classroom bullies which was the case in our day ( ringing any bells ?) So in summary.. shut up |
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 19, 2019 9:16:33 GMT 1
The point, before you jump down my throat, was the earlier debate about women playing top level. I once played against Town ladies who were the about 4th best in England in 1994....we beat them.... and we were not even Sunday league standard. I think their game has moved on hugely...still a waste of TV airtime. Women are nowhere near mens level in ANY sport (OK, 5% out in ultra-running)...that also translates in to much of life despite what you and your hand-wringing buddies think. Equal rights and equal pay...now get to the bar luv. "That also translates into much of life" ? So women are nowhere near men's level in most aspects of life? Absolute fuckin' bollox. Oti, you're a fuckin' embarrassment. Ironically, it's the attitude that Oti holds, which is the reason behind some measures that are arguably unfair on men, and able bodied, white men in particular. I for one can accept it whilst ridiculous notions are still held (or at best not explained well). |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 19, 2019 10:03:46 GMT 1
Jesus wept...there are more of them. Women will NEVER be good enough to compete. Look at snooker, boxing, swimming...any bloody thing. Miles off. Why do we have to judge women against men, and denigrate them as a result? Why can't we accept women's sport as separate from men's and appreciate it for what it is? Men obviously have biological advantages in terms of strength and speed, but as far as I am aware there is no reason why a woman cannot achieve the same skill level as a man. Some on here showing themselves up to be chauvinistic dinosaurs. But no surprise there. Women's sport is different to men's, but it still deserves to be celebrated and appreciated. Elite sportswomen are incredibly fit and highly-skilled, and should not have their achievements denegated by sexist men, with attitudes from the dark ages who should fuckin' know better. If women could achieve the same skill sets as men they would be beating men at darts and snooker. As Schopenhauer declared "they are something between adults and children". The people who should know better are the modernists (used loosely). Anyone would think 4 million years of natural selection was some historic blip. Funny you mention dinosaurs. Women are not equal but have equal rights. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 19, 2019 10:06:29 GMT 1
The point, before you jump down my throat, was the earlier debate about women playing top level. I once played against Town ladies who were the about 4th best in England in 1994....we beat them.... and we were not even Sunday league standard. I think their game has moved on hugely...still a waste of TV airtime. Women are nowhere near mens level in ANY sport (OK, 5% out in ultra-running)...that also translates in to much of life despite what you and your hand-wringing buddies think. Equal rights and equal pay...now get to the bar luv. "That also translates into much of life" ? So women are nowhere near men's level in most aspects of life? Absolute fuckin' bollox. Oti, you're a fuckin' embarrassment. Art, literature, music, invention, exploration, business, philosophy? No, people like you who want to change history and facts are an embarrassment. Women, just as important and relevant as men....as are children....but i wont listen to nonsense. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 19, 2019 10:08:17 GMT 1
The point, before you jump down my throat, was the earlier debate about women playing top level. I once played against Town ladies who were the about 4th best in England in 1994....we beat them.... and we were not even Sunday league standard. I think their game has moved on hugely...still a waste of TV airtime. Women are nowhere near mens level in ANY sport (OK, 5% out in ultra-running)...that also translates in to much of life despite what you and your hand-wringing buddies think. Equal rights and equal pay...now get to the bar luv. "Hand wringing buddies " what does that even mean ? Another ridiculous "alt right " slur of choice that means nothing. In line in fact with much of your vapid nonsense. 're equal pay I'm not sure you noticed but we live in a capitalist society so it's all about supply and demand. If the demand for women's football exceeded the men's game they might even get paid more and wow wouldn't you be getting your britches in a twist then. But obviously that won't be happening any time soon Equal rights. Shouldn't that be something we should all be promoting ? So not sure what you're on about there. You saying you once played town ladies in 1994 and you were as good is like saying you were as good on the internet as Mark zuckerberg in 1994. The game has slightly moved on since then . What a shame that the rhetoric of the sexist dinosaur hasn't moved at quite a fast a pace. But do you know what Oti in some ways I agree with you. Women aren't going to be as good as men at football certainly any time soon and possibly never ever.. but how is that the point ? ( and it's a point you anually love to ram home in a nar nana nar nar way whenever you get the platform) . Does it make it any less valid ? Of course not.. why do you take delight from denigrating half of the world's population ? ( make it about 90% when you add " them there darkies and them there Moslems ) . Does the fact that town aren't and probably never will be as good as Barcelona mean that we shouldn't go trudging down south in sub zero temperatures to watch them ? Does that mean we don't "deserve " to be on tv ? " still a waste of tv airtime " . What the fuck ? You do know that there is a lot of " airtime" out there these days ? We aren't living in the days of the testcard and getting all giddy because Richard whiteleys countdown has ushered in an era of FOUR channels. The world has moved on. The dinosaur extinct. Another bit of startling information for you Mr Tyrannosaur..... The BBC no longer has the financial muscle to be able to show ANY of what could be described as the high ranking sports. The final at the crucible is as giddy as it gets for the BBC these days . So it isn't as if this Inferior female product is somehow replacing the superior male stuff. I've never watched a full game of women's football in my life. Id rathwr watch you show me your collection of settees. But then again I've never watched a French League 1 game ever, or a German game. Some people would watch a ball getting kicked around by anyone but for me it's not about the football or the skills on display. It's about the heritage and the history and the team allegiance. In mainstream terms the women's game has little of this for me ( maybe I'm a dinosaur too ) but in time it will have. The rate of growth is huge and fantastic . How wonderful that I can take my little girl to football and if she chooses to she has female role models to aspire to. How amazing that she can ask the boys for a game without fear of being told to piss off by the little classroom bullies which was the case in our day ( ringing any bells ?) So in summary.. shut up In summary...i read about 3 lines and fell asleep. So yes, i shut up. |
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Post by gymroidspump on May 19, 2019 10:23:12 GMT 1
Women's football is shite. Not even women like it. Promoting women's football isn't about promoting the sport, it is politically motivated. What a man can do a woman can do! Erm, nope. We're not equal, sorry liberals.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 19, 2019 10:28:28 GMT 1
"Hand wringing buddies " what does that even mean ? Another ridiculous "alt right " slur of choice that means nothing. In line in fact with much of your vapid nonsense. 're equal pay I'm not sure you noticed but we live in a capitalist society so it's all about supply and demand. If the demand for women's football exceeded the men's game they might even get paid more and wow wouldn't you be getting your britches in a twist then. But obviously that won't be happening any time soon Equal rights. Shouldn't that be something we should all be promoting ? So not sure what you're on about there. You saying you once played town ladies in 1994 and you were as good is like saying you were as good on the internet as Mark zuckerberg in 1994. The game has slightly moved on since then . What a shame that the rhetoric of the sexist dinosaur hasn't moved at quite a fast a pace. But do you know what Oti in some ways I agree with you. Women aren't going to be as good as men at football certainly any time soon and possibly never ever.. but how is that the point ? ( and it's a point you anually love to ram home in a nar nana nar nar way whenever you get the platform) . Does it make it any less valid ? Of course not.. why do you take delight from denigrating half of the world's population ? ( make it about 90% when you add " them there darkies and them there Moslems ) . Does the fact that town aren't and probably never will be as good as Barcelona mean that we shouldn't go trudging down south in sub zero temperatures to watch them ? Does that mean we don't "deserve " to be on tv ? " still a waste of tv airtime " . What the fuck ? You do know that there is a lot of " airtime" out there these days ? We aren't living in the days of the testcard and getting all giddy because Richard whiteleys countdown has ushered in an era of FOUR channels. The world has moved on. The dinosaur extinct. Another bit of startling information for you Mr Tyrannosaur..... The BBC no longer has the financial muscle to be able to show ANY of what could be described as the high ranking sports. The final at the crucible is as giddy as it gets for the BBC these days . So it isn't as if this Inferior female product is somehow replacing the superior male stuff. I've never watched a full game of women's football in my life. Id rathwr watch you show me your collection of settees. But then again I've never watched a French League 1 game ever, or a German game. Some people would watch a ball getting kicked around by anyone but for me it's not about the football or the skills on display. It's about the heritage and the history and the team allegiance. In mainstream terms the women's game has little of this for me ( maybe I'm a dinosaur too ) but in time it will have. The rate of growth is huge and fantastic . How wonderful that I can take my little girl to football and if she chooses to she has female role models to aspire to. How amazing that she can ask the boys for a game without fear of being told to piss off by the little classroom bullies which was the case in our day ( ringing any bells ?) So in summary.. shut up In summary...i read about 3 lines and fell asleep. So yes, i shut up. But you still got to the last line In summary you don't like being schooled and admitting it |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 19, 2019 10:28:59 GMT 1
Women's football is shite. Not even women like it. Promoting women's football isn't about promoting the sport, it is politically motivated. What a man can do a woman can do! Erm, nope. We're not equal, sorry liberals. Ugga ugga |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 19, 2019 10:32:33 GMT 1
Why do we have to judge women against men, and denigrate them as a result? Why can't we accept women's sport as separate from men's and appreciate it for what it is? Men obviously have biological advantages in terms of strength and speed, but as far as I am aware there is no reason why a woman cannot achieve the same skill level as a man. Some on here showing themselves up to be chauvinistic dinosaurs. But no surprise there. Women's sport is different to men's, but it still deserves to be celebrated and appreciated. Elite sportswomen are incredibly fit and highly-skilled, and should not have their achievements denegated by sexist men, with attitudes from the dark ages who should fuckin' know better. If women could achieve the same skill sets as men they would be beating men at darts and snooker. As Schopenhauer declared "they are something between adults and children". The people who should know better are the modernists (used loosely). Anyone would think 4 million years of natural selection was some historic blip. Funny you mention dinosaurs. Women are not equal but have equal rights. Ever heard of the term, 'closed shop'? That's why, in sports that aren't reliant on physique, there's still a barrier to women getting in on the act to play alongside the men. In simple historical terms, women are playing catch up, not because of physique, skill or whatever criteria you want to apply. It's because of the ingrained nature of hunter-gatherer that still exists in our evolutionary cycle. You seem to forget that views are changing in younger generations. Perhaps we'll be one of the last generations grumbling away in our old age, led by none other than yourself... What's your views on female CEO's, or women fighter pilots in the RAF etc. etc.? |
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Post by digs on May 19, 2019 10:34:50 GMT 1
I bet Aaron Mooy wishes he was an English woman,because they take better corners and free kicks than him
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Post by gymroidspump on May 19, 2019 10:36:19 GMT 1
Women's football is shite. Not even women like it. Promoting women's football isn't about promoting the sport, it is politically motivated. What a man can do a woman can do! Erm, nope. We're not equal, sorry liberals. Ugga ugga You're well progressive, mate! Fancy little white knight that you are 😂 |
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Post by jackosbrylcream on May 19, 2019 12:09:45 GMT 1
For everyone saying that women's football and men's football are separate sports, that viewpoint is wrong.
If they were separate sports, women's football would receive the coverage that it's interest level deserves, somewhere between badminton and lacrosse.
Women's football only gets the coverage it does because it is football, a sport with popularity generated by the men's game, and as said above, it is being broadcast on such a wide scale as a political tool, rather than for entertainment purposes.
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on May 19, 2019 12:16:36 GMT 1
Listen ladies just stick to the fine art of Yorkshire pudding making.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 19, 2019 12:34:24 GMT 1
You're well progressive, mate! Fancy little white knight that you are 😂 Ever wondered why every time you've got laid in the last 20 years you've had to pay for it ? |
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Post by gymroidspump on May 19, 2019 12:36:54 GMT 1
You're well progressive, mate! Fancy little white knight that you are 😂 Ever wondered why every time you've got laid in the last 20 years you've had to pay for it ? Women don't like male feminists, mate. Little tip for you, soppy chops. They prefer men. |
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Post by ACW on May 19, 2019 12:42:27 GMT 1
"That also translates into much of life" ? So women are nowhere near men's level in most aspects of life? Absolute fuckin' bollox. Oti, you're a fuckin' embarrassment. Art, literature, music, invention, exploration, business, philosophy? No, people like you who want to change history and facts are an embarrassment. Women, just as important and relevant as men....as are children....but i wont listen to nonsense. Neither will I, so we can ignore each other. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 19, 2019 12:58:55 GMT 1
In summary...i read about 3 lines and fell asleep. So yes, i shut up. But you still got to the last line In summary you don't like being schooled and admitting it Schooled? SCHOOLED? I am the master and you are not even the pupil....when you get out of those nappies and are toilet trained i might try and pass on some of my vast knowledge. For now i just tell you how it is. Stop shitting in your pants and then we will talk. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 19, 2019 13:14:54 GMT 1
as long as they never allow a 'person' with the meat and two veg to play in 'ladies competitions', I am a great supporter of females playing traditionally male sports.. as long as they never change the rules to allow women to 'compete' more evenly in physical sport, I am ok... none of the above counts in 'sports' that are not seriously affected by physical strength etc.. sure a female can play snooker or darts etc, just as well, given time and a similar level of support as they progress as men..more ladies play from an earlier age and the gap will close.... in regards to ladies football the only thing I see where progress is very slow is the goalkeepers?  ? oh and the cheating and simulation but its coming.. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on May 19, 2019 13:17:51 GMT 1
If women could achieve the same skill sets as men they would be beating men at darts and snooker. As Schopenhauer declared "they are something between adults and children". The people who should know better are the modernists (used loosely). Anyone would think 4 million years of natural selection was some historic blip. Funny you mention dinosaurs. Women are not equal but have equal rights. Ever heard of the term, 'closed shop'? That's why, in sports that aren't reliant on physique, there's still a barrier to women getting in on the act to play alongside the men. In simple historical terms, women are playing catch up, not because of physique, skill or whatever criteria you want to apply. It's because of the ingrained nature of hunter-gatherer that still exists in our evolutionary cycle. You seem to forget that views are changing in younger generations. Perhaps we'll be one of the last generations grumbling away in our old age, led by none other than yourself... What's your views on female CEO's, or women fighter pilots in the RAF etc. etc.? I am aware of the bias....its a self-fulfilling prophecy...the bias exists because women are not up to it in many spheres, different skill sets entirely. A woman may make a decent PM or CEO but she is less likely to make a good roofer or a sabre-toothed hunter. We have had a 100 years of female emancipation in the UK....where are the Nobel prize winners, the literary giants or the outstanding, innovative inventors? There are, of course, exceptions. Nature has it reasons and we ignore them as is our ethnographic way. Women are just as important as men, of that there can be no doubt. |
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? oh and the cheating and simulation but its coming..