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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 14:03:16 GMT 1
See the DATM clowns are out in force today 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on May 1, 2019 14:06:05 GMT 1
What is this position of strength you talk of? If we aren't in a position of strength by being in the PL and being the richest the club has ever been when will we be in a position of strength? It's a load of bollocks is that. The club continually contradict itself. It's like when they made the statement about 'not sleepwalking in to relegation' but we made no effort to strengthen the squad at all in January, the 'we were gonners' is a cop out. And I want to know if we're not at a position of strength how do we now get back to a position of strength without spending money? It's a cop out mate. All I can hear on here is people giving reasons for how we can't compete. It’s Deans strategy not mine! In simple terms, he said that if as an EPL team we were in the bottom 3 or 5 or whatever, then we wouldn’t attempt to buy our way out of trouble and end up saddled with extra players on premier league contracts and compromise the financial stability of a relegated team. But that if we were up reasonably clear of relegation, then we would likely see more signings made in a January window, as part of the ongoing strategy of improving a squad, with the benefit of being reasonably confident in having “next years” full EPL money coming in. From a personal point of view...we looked relegated by the end of December anyway...if we’d spent £10m to £20m on new full backs, £15m-£20m on a longer term Mooy replacement to cover for his injury or Asia Cup absence (or a loan player commanding a much higher fee than we spent on bringing in Puncheon to replace Mooy), £10m on whatever it is that would have meant not having to rely on Stankovic playing that role he’s ridiculously left with because Billing is injured or taking his balls home, £15m on someone who might not fit in to replace and improve upon at least one of Diakhaby & Mbenza, £5m on a keeper, just any keeper, and £200m on Harry Kane...we’d STILL be relegated, and we’d be heading for admin within 18months (even replacing Harry Kane with a more realistic decent striker to complement Grant). We are in the EPL, and we still are for another couple of weeks, but, rock bottom of the table on 1st of January is hard pushed to describe as a “position of strength”. We do go into the new Championship season in a position of strength, we should have the finances in play to be able to bring in significant signings this summer (and arguably Grant should be considered as a signing for the Championship too...it seems highly unlikely we bought him because we expected him to be leading the line in a 2019/20 EPL season...and those significant signings should enable us to have a decent go at being a top 8 team, without screwing up the near future of the club in the meantime. to be fair we looked doomed as soon as everyone realised the two lads MBenza and Diakhaby were simply not good enough |
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Post by Detective Boyle on May 1, 2019 14:17:34 GMT 1
How do you know this is the case? We're a team at rock bottom, hardly surprising that it will be affecting the backroom, but not sure how it seems to be common theory that he's not great at man mgmt. He might not be of course, but it all seems to be the usual rumour mill, ignoring the low morale aspect. Mind you, if they phoned a few folk on here they'd run a mile... and even without anything concrete to go on I suspect it is the case. Just the general manner of players around him, body language, morale, lack of any team spirit, poor individual performance, failure to take on board any of his coaching, quotes, rumours of fallings out, team selections, the crap he comes out with after the match, seemingly fragile ego, tantrums on the touchline, the captaincy debacle, players being vague aboiut their futures. Lots of subtle and vague clues, some will want proof, there obviously isnt any but I see a lot of smoke in various areas which leads me to conclude the players aren't impressed and its a good point about being able to attract other new ones. The manager is obviously a big pull. No there isn't. You're just jumping to conclusions because thats the conclusion you really want. Even Hogg, probably the biggest pro in the squad, has come out and said that everyone is aiming to impress the new boss for next season. Explain that one. |
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Post by crux on May 1, 2019 14:29:07 GMT 1
You could have written almost the same at the end of December about Wagner and the team. The only difference is that now we're actually relegated a number of players are going to leave through their choice or the clubs. The captaincy could have been handled better to the outside world, but neither Smith or Hogg are giving the impression of being that put out about it. Schindler does appear to be a Mark Hudson type leader, who commands respect. My only real worry is the lack of on field communication between defenders and midfield. Somebody needs to be an on field organiser. I know JS is seen by a number of town fans as a German 4th division manager, but he is a respected coach in Germany who worked for their FA and Dortmond AFTER working in the 4th division. He is young, but does have a wider coaching experience than Wagner did. Whether he can develop the man management skills needed is another question. Actually I couldn't have written ANY of that about Wagner and the team in December, not one thing!!! I think some people struggle massively to see the difference in performances and results. Yes results are similar but the performances and manner of the players couldn't be any different! You obviously blocked out most of December. Fulham in particular was an awful performance from players and coaching staff alike. I would agree that up to December the performances, if not results, we're OK. But from the beginning of December onwards the wheels came off and unfortunately, by the time he left, DW looked a shadow of his former self. It had all gone 'tits up' before JS arrived, you can't blame it all on him. I admit the results could have gone better for him and the West Ham game didn't help. Although the substitutions forced by injuries probably screwed up that game. Unless we are taken over by someone with deeper pockets than DH, then it's likely that JS will still be here in August. The least we can do as supporters is support him and the players, otherwise what's the point? |
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Post by Detective Boyle on May 1, 2019 14:37:45 GMT 1
Actually I couldn't have written ANY of that about Wagner and the team in December, not one thing!!! I think some people struggle massively to see the difference in performances and results. Yes results are similar but the performances and manner of the players couldn't be any different! You obviously blocked out most of December. Fulham in particular was an awful performance from players and coaching staff alike. I would agree that up to December the performances, if not results, we're OK. But from the beginning of December onwards the wheels came off and unfortunately, by the time he left, DW looked a shadow of his former self. It had all gone 'tits up' before JS arrived, you can't blame it all on him. I admit the results could have gone better for him and the West Ham game didn't help. Although the substitutions forced by injuries probably screwed up that game. Unless we are taken over by someone with deeper pockets than DH, then it's likely that JS will still be here in August. The least we can do as supporters is support him and the players, otherwise what's the point? Precisely. Did trouble behind the scenes make Wagner play Mounie up front on his own with no-one within 50 yards in a must win game?? |
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Post by johnnyx on May 1, 2019 15:22:06 GMT 1
Don't know if it's been commented on but i thought it was quite significant that Billing was voted player's player of the year.
This is a player that has hardly featured under Siewert and would appear likely that they have not seen eye to eye. Was the vote a statement from the players?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 1, 2019 15:24:03 GMT 1
There's no way we are as big as Cardiff, Wolves and Southampton. As for Leicester they are miles ahead. If you look at scope all the clubs above have the opportunity to reach much bigger crowds than we do and as a result can have bigger stadiums and incomes. Geographically Fulham and Palace will have a bigger pull to players than we do. They all have rich foreign ownership and have all spent considerably more than town in the last 20 years. Burnley are arguably ahead but are the model we should follow. Let's not forget that they went straight back down after their promotion, we didn't. You can't call town a big club at all hence the reason we have been so out of our depth for the last 18 months both on and off the field. There's only the fans that are premier League about this club at the minute. Cardiff bigger than us your having a laugh, your showing your age with a comment like that. I remember them in the same division getting 2 and 3 thousand crowds , we were at our lowest eb but still doubled their crowds on an even footing. That’s the one that made me chuckle too brighouse |
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Post by royrace on May 1, 2019 15:30:48 GMT 1
There does seem to be a general feeling that the players don't like or respect Siewert and even without anything concrete to go on I suspect it is the case. Just the general manner of players around him, body language, morale, lack of any team spirit, poor individual performance, failure to take on board any of his coaching, quotes, rumours of fallings out, team selections, the crap he comes out with after the match, seemingly fragile ego, tantrums on the touchline, the captaincy debacle, players being vague aboiut their futures. Lots of subtle and vague clues, some will want proof, there obviously isnt any but I see a lot of smoke in various areas which leads me to conclude the players aren't impressed and its a good point about being able to attract other new ones. The manager is obviously a big pull. No there isn't. You're just jumping to conclusions because thats the conclusion you really want. Even Hogg, probably the biggest pro in the squad, has come out and said that everyone is aiming to impress the new boss for next season. Explain that one. I can assure you I don't want Town to have a really poor manager! As I said there is a general feeling, ie a lot of people, ie many more than the ones who hold your opinion of him, maybe you have some brilliant insight we've all missed. You say I'm jumping to conclusions then claim that Hogg saying all the lads are wanting to impress the new boss is proof he is popular with the players?! Time will tell. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 15:30:53 GMT 1
I'd have thought a capital city club with it's recent history / current status would actually be deemed a bigger club than Town. Only in terms of history, trophies won, could we be deemed bigger.
What recent history before making it to prem 5 ish years ago they hadn’t been in top division for 52 years . Current status ? There in the same position as us . Capital city ? Oh well done on your geography knowledge Well done on your spelling. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 1, 2019 15:32:47 GMT 1
Don't know if it's been commented on but i thought it was quite significant that Billing was voted player's player of the year. This is a player that has hardly featured under Siewert and would appear likely that they have not seen eye to eye. Was the vote a statement from the players? He's come out in the media & said he'll be moving on next season so why would Siewert play him if he's planning for the future? Up until December he was comfortably our best player but he didn't have a good game after that. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 15:48:09 GMT 1
Don't know if it's been commented on but i thought it was quite significant that Billing was voted player's player of the year. This is a player that has hardly featured under Siewert and would appear likely that they have not seen eye to eye. Was the vote a statement from the players? He's come out in the media & said he'll be moving on next season so why would Siewert play him if he's planning for the future? Up until December he was comfortably our best player but he didn't have a good game after that. My guess is we already know where he's going and he's in cotton wool. |
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Post by brighousebandbred on May 1, 2019 15:59:38 GMT 1
What recent history before making it to prem 5 ish years ago they hadn’t been in top division for 52 years . Current status ? There in the same position as us . Capital city ? Oh well done on your geography knowledge Well done on your spelling. Cheers 😜 |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 16:03:34 GMT 1
No there isn't. You're just jumping to conclusions because thats the conclusion you really want. Even Hogg, probably the biggest pro in the squad, has come out and said that everyone is aiming to impress the new boss for next season. Explain that one. I can assure you I don't want Town to have a really poor manager! As I said there is a general feeling, ie a lot of people, ie many more than the ones who hold your opinion of him, maybe you have some brilliant insight we've all missed. You say I'm jumping to conclusions then claim that Hogg saying all the lads are wanting to impress the new boss is proof he is popular with the players?! Time will tell. Those last tbree words are sooo true..... |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on May 1, 2019 16:08:38 GMT 1
Don't know if it's been commented on but i thought it was quite significant that Billing was voted player's player of the year. This is a player that has hardly featured under Siewert and would appear likely that they have not seen eye to eye. Was the vote a statement from the players? He's come out in the media & said he'll be moving on next season so why would Siewert play him if he's planning for the future? Up until December he was comfortably our best player but he didn't have a good game after that. that's not saying a lot to be fair. To be honest he's a good player but in a side like ours that closed down opponents he looked lazy, when closing down or pressing is simply not his game. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 1, 2019 17:12:13 GMT 1
He's come out in the media & said he'll be moving on next season so why would Siewert play him if he's planning for the future? Up until December he was comfortably our best player but he didn't have a good game after that. that's not saying a lot to be fair. To be honest he's a good player but in a side like ours that closed down opponents he looked lazy, when closing down or pressing is simply not his game. Considering he's not really played these last few months he's still 18th in the premier league for tackles, 24th for interceptions & 31st for blocks. He also averaged over 10km a game which is nearly identical to Hogg. |
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2019 17:26:38 GMT 1
How do you know this is the case? We're a team at rock bottom, hardly surprising that it will be affecting the backroom, but not sure how it seems to be common theory that he's not great at man mgmt. He might not be of course, but it all seems to be the usual rumour mill, ignoring the low morale aspect. Mind you, if they phoned a few folk on here they'd run a mile... There does seem to be a general feeling that the players don't like or respect Siewert and even without anything concrete to go on I suspect it is the case. Just the general manner of players around him, body language, morale, lack of any team spirit, poor individual performance, failure to take on board any of his coaching, quotes, rumours of fallings out, team selections, the crap he comes out with after the match, seemingly fragile ego, tantrums on the touchline, the captaincy debacle, players being vague aboiut their futures. Lots of subtle and vague clues, some will want proof, there obviously isnt any but I see a lot of smoke in various areas which leads me to conclude the players aren't impressed and its a good point about being able to attract other new ones. The manager is obviously a big pull.
General feeling, No respect, yet nothing concrete, But still the players are not impressed, In your opinion.
When was this captaincy debacle ?? Smith hardly in the first 11, Hogg suspended or Injured, Schindler, Former 1860 skipper, Two time player of the season, Mr consistent,,, Where was the chaos ?
I have personally been told the younger squad players like Siewert, Like his style and like him as a person,, No surprise if some others don't,, Its what happens when you have a change of gaffer in any business.
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Post by mallyb on May 1, 2019 17:27:55 GMT 1
There does seem to be a general feeling that the players don't like or respect Siewert and even without anything concrete to go on I suspect it is the case. Just the general manner of players around him, body language, morale, lack of any team spirit, poor individual performance, failure to take on board any of his coaching, quotes, rumours of fallings out, team selections, the crap he comes out with after the match, seemingly fragile ego, tantrums on the touchline, the captaincy debacle, players being vague aboiut their futures. Lots of subtle and vague clues, some will want proof, there obviously isnt any but I see a lot of smoke in various areas which leads me to conclude the players aren't impressed and its a good point about being able to attract other new ones. The manager is obviously a big pull. No there isn't. You're just jumping to conclusions because thats the conclusion you really want. Even Hogg, probably the biggest pro in the squad, has come out and said that everyone is aiming to impress the new boss for next season. Explain that one. I'll explain it. Because he is one of the biggest pro's in the squad and it is the professional thing to do. If he had come out and said the new man isn't a patch on Wagner not only would he be finished here but other clubs (not managed by Wagner) would see him as a trouble maker because nobody ever does that!!! |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 1, 2019 17:33:16 GMT 1
He's come out in the media & said he'll be moving on next season so why would Siewert play him if he's planning for the future? Up until December he was comfortably our best player but he didn't have a good game after that. that's not saying a lot to be fair. To be honest he's a good player but in a side like ours that closed down opponents he looked lazy, when closing down or pressing is simply not his game. The stats don;t back that up. Minute for minute he ran further and tackled more than just about anybody else in the team, including both the other central midfielders. The 'looking lazy' thing is just a perception based on his languid style of running. It doesn;t have any truth to it as the stats prove. |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 1, 2019 17:35:28 GMT 1
No there isn't. You're just jumping to conclusions because thats the conclusion you really want. Even Hogg, probably the biggest pro in the squad, has come out and said that everyone is aiming to impress the new boss for next season. Explain that one. I'll explain it. Because he is one of the biggest pro's in the squad and it is the professional thing to do. If he had come out and said the new man isn't a patch on Wagner not only would he be finished here but other clubs (not managed by Wagner) would see him as a trouble maker because nobody ever does that!!! Exactly. Whether he thinks that or not, hes only ever going to come out with stock replies to questions, as all players do. |
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Post by mallyb on May 1, 2019 17:35:34 GMT 1
Actually I couldn't have written ANY of that about Wagner and the team in December, not one thing!!! I think some people struggle massively to see the difference in performances and results. Yes results are similar but the performances and manner of the players couldn't be any different! You obviously blocked out most of December. Fulham in particular was an awful performance from players and coaching staff alike. I would agree that up to December the performances, if not results, we're OK. But from the beginning of December onwards the wheels came off and unfortunately, by the time he left, DW looked a shadow of his former self. It had all gone 'tits up' before JS arrived, you can't blame it all on him. I admit the results could have gone better for him and the West Ham game didn't help. Although the substitutions forced by injuries probably screwed up that game. Unless we are taken over by someone with deeper pockets than DH, then it's likely that JS will still be here in August. The least we can do as supporters is support him and the players, otherwise what's the point? From memory in December we lost Bacuna, Mooy, Williams, & Sabiri in a week which impacted on our competitiveness. Most teams would struggle to loose their top midfielder and all options for backup in a team playing well but not getting results. Not a problem Jan has had but performances have been poor and the stats show even with a better striker we are doing worse than under Wagner. There are also no robbed by the referee moments since Jan took over which there were plenty in the first half of the season that affected results and stats negatively for Wagner so realistically that gap between teh 2 should be bigger. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 1, 2019 19:18:01 GMT 1
Why don't we have scope to grow? I get the stadium thing, but that will always be a constraint for 99% of clubs. I also get the footfall thing, but again, it's sort of irrelevant if you look at B'mouth. They've had a few seasons in the PL now, their new ground is on hold, their fanbase may still never fill a 25k seater stadium even if it's built? So you're basing your argument purely on wealth & demographics by the looks? Cardiff - capital city, nearest rivals Swansea, beyond that, no competition for either of those clubs, but it was still well within living memory that Newport were doing OK. Not to Swansea or Cardiff levels, but still classed as the third team in S Wales. We compete in a hotbed of football, when you consider clubs within a 35 mile radius of us - we've still sold a ton of ST's despite almost being assured of relegation when they went on sale. Really struggling with why we haven't the scope to grow? Do you think we should just climb back in a box and saunter back down to L1? You have pretty much argued the case for me. I said we don't have as much scope to grow as Cardiff. We have just been a bottom end premier League team. How do we grow from there? Currently we don't own the ground and even if we did could we fill 35k every week to increase income? Maybe but doubtful. Do we pay big wages? No. Do we have a huge geographical pull for players? No. Are we surrounded by umpteen other football clubs including 3 major sporting city's in Leeds, Manchester and Sheffield? Yes. It's going to be really difficult to make this club a mid table premier League team which would be the next stage. Of course these things could change with a billionaire Oligarch but going back to my original point about money, are we likely to attract one of those? It has to come down to economics. There isn't a billionaire sat there thinking I'll buy Huddersfield because they won the first division 100 years ago. Why is everything about having bottomless pockets of brass to aid growth? You sound like you've been suckered in by the PL machine. |
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Post by blueandbrightside on May 1, 2019 20:02:51 GMT 1
No there isn't. You're just jumping to conclusions because thats the conclusion you really want. Even Hogg, probably the biggest pro in the squad, has come out and said that everyone is aiming to impress the new boss for next season. Explain that one. I can assure you I don't want Town to have a really poor manager! As I said there is a general feeling, ie a lot of people, ie many more than the ones who hold your opinion of him, maybe you have some brilliant insight we've all missed. You say I'm jumping to conclusions then claim that Hogg saying all the lads are wanting to impress the new boss is proof he is popular with the players?! Time will tell. I wouldn’t say jumping to conclusions, more like just making up stuff, constantly. Are the quotes and rumours you’ve heard based on reading back all your posts saying it? A lot of people, i.e ones you don’t agree with, don’t think the same as you. I could say ‘far more’ but I’d be making that up, as you have. Your brilliant insight was qualified by you saying it was based on a feeling you had for goodness sake. We know what your view is, it’s now getting a bit much reading it every day on every thread that gives you a chance and then suggesting anyone who disagrees they are somehow factually incorrect. I’m starting to hope he gets sacked so you can get on with claiming you were right all along, based on very little, and then we can move on. I don’t particularly hold an opinion of him as yet by the way but I’d give him some time with a level playing field (based on sitting in the stand that is, behind the scenes I don’t know and therefore won’t speculate what might be happening). |
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Post by townatheart on May 1, 2019 20:05:49 GMT 1
that's not saying a lot to be fair. To be honest he's a good player but in a side like ours that closed down opponents he looked lazy, when closing down or pressing is simply not his game. The stats don;t back that up. Minute for minute he ran further and tackled more than just about anybody else in the team, including both the other central midfielders. The 'looking lazy' thing is just a perception based on his languid style of running. It doesn;t have any truth to it as the stats prove. Just wonder if he can do as well at Bury  |
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Post by Detective Boyle on May 1, 2019 21:09:25 GMT 1
No there isn't. You're just jumping to conclusions because thats the conclusion you really want. Even Hogg, probably the biggest pro in the squad, has come out and said that everyone is aiming to impress the new boss for next season. Explain that one. I'll explain it. Because he is one of the biggest pro's in the squad and it is the professional thing to do. If he had come out and said the new man isn't a patch on Wagner not only would he be finished here but other clubs (not managed by Wagner) would see him as a trouble maker because nobody ever does that!!! Ah right okay. So he hasn't said he supports him really, just as he hasn't, nor has anyone else for that matter, said that they don't support him. So no-one can prove it, and therefore people are talking shite. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on May 1, 2019 21:15:15 GMT 1
I'll explain it. Because he is one of the biggest pro's in the squad and it is the professional thing to do. If he had come out and said the new man isn't a patch on Wagner not only would he be finished here but other clubs (not managed by Wagner) would see him as a trouble maker because nobody ever does that!!! Ah right okay. So he hasn't said he supports him really, just as he hasn't, nor has anyone else for that matter, said that they don't support him. So no-one can prove it, and therefore people are talking shite. Hogg looks totally lost under Seiwert. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 1, 2019 21:20:04 GMT 1
I can assure you I don't want Town to have a really poor manager! As I said there is a general feeling, ie a lot of people, ie many more than the ones who hold your opinion of him, maybe you have some brilliant insight we've all missed. You say I'm jumping to conclusions then claim that Hogg saying all the lads are wanting to impress the new boss is proof he is popular with the players?! Time will tell. I wouldn’t say jumping to conclusions, more like just making up stuff, constantly. Are the quotes and rumours you’ve heard based on reading back all your posts saying it? A lot of people, i.e ones you don’t agree with, don’t think the same as you. I could say ‘far more’ but I’d be making that up, as you have. Your brilliant insight was qualified by you saying it was based on a feeling you had for goodness sake. We know what your view is, it’s now getting a bit much reading it every day on every thread that gives you a chance and then suggesting anyone who disagrees they are somehow factually incorrect. I’m starting to hope he gets sacked so you can get on with claiming you were right all along, based on very little, and then we can move on. I don’t particularly hold an opinion of him as yet by the way but I’d give him some time with a level playing field (based on sitting in the stand that is, behind the scenes I don’t know and therefore won’t speculate what might be happening). It’s not making it up that our team under Jan have capitulated in virtually every game. It’s also not making it up that the whole club has lost its spirit since Siewert took over. His mannerisms and over aggressive attitude have in my opinion caused unrest. You only have to look at the way he talks to players and the players reactions to see that there is a problem. I’m not confident with this bloke and I’m not making that up either. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 1, 2019 21:27:17 GMT 1
No there isn't. You're just jumping to conclusions because thats the conclusion you really want. Even Hogg, probably the biggest pro in the squad, has come out and said that everyone is aiming to impress the new boss for next season. Explain that one. I can assure you I don't want Town to have a really poor manager! As I said there is a general feeling, ie a lot of people, ie many more than the ones who hold your opinion of him, maybe you have some brilliant insight we've all missed. You say I'm jumping to conclusions then claim that Hogg saying all the lads are wanting to impress the new boss is proof he is popular with the players?! Time will tell.Those of us who are supportive of Siewert think exactly that. He's not proven himself to be a worldbeater, but he's not proven himself to be shite either. It's too early to say what he'll be like with his own squad. It's a risk, no doubt about it. Particularly with no DoF - we're putting a lot of reliance on an unproven manager to get it right. But if the board spotted something in him & have not altered their view in 2 years, then at the very least - we should give it a chance to work. Alternatively, we could look to bring in a new manager & DoF which would be harsh on Siewert but might (or might not!) be better for the club. Question is.... who has the attributes we're looking for? Can we get them here? |
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Post by blueandbrightside on May 1, 2019 21:37:12 GMT 1
I wouldn’t say jumping to conclusions, more like just making up stuff, constantly. Are the quotes and rumours you’ve heard based on reading back all your posts saying it? A lot of people, i.e ones you don’t agree with, don’t think the same as you. I could say ‘far more’ but I’d be making that up, as you have. Your brilliant insight was qualified by you saying it was based on a feeling you had for goodness sake. We know what your view is, it’s now getting a bit much reading it every day on every thread that gives you a chance and then suggesting anyone who disagrees they are somehow factually incorrect. I’m starting to hope he gets sacked so you can get on with claiming you were right all along, based on very little, and then we can move on. I don’t particularly hold an opinion of him as yet by the way but I’d give him some time with a level playing field (based on sitting in the stand that is, behind the scenes I don’t know and therefore won’t speculate what might be happening). It’s not making it up that our team under Jan have capitulated in virtually every game. It’s also not making it up that the whole club has lost its spirit since Siewert took over. His mannerisms and over aggressive attitude have in my opinion caused unrest. You only have to look at the way he talks to players and the players reactions to see that there is a problem. I’m not confident with this bloke and I’m not making that up either. It is though, we’d gone as a team before he came. Let’s face it if all was well Wagner would still be here and we wouldn’t have had to go get another manager, surely that is a fact that everyone can agree on? JS is on a hiding to nothing this season. |
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Post by royrace on May 1, 2019 21:53:04 GMT 1
I can assure you I don't want Town to have a really poor manager! As I said there is a general feeling, ie a lot of people, ie many more than the ones who hold your opinion of him, maybe you have some brilliant insight we've all missed. You say I'm jumping to conclusions then claim that Hogg saying all the lads are wanting to impress the new boss is proof he is popular with the players?! Time will tell. I wouldn’t say jumping to conclusions, more like just making up stuff, constantly. Are the quotes and rumours you’ve heard based on reading back all your posts saying it? A lot of people, i.e ones you don’t agree with, don’t think the same as you. I could say ‘far more’ but I’d be making that up, as you have. Your brilliant insight was qualified by you saying it was based on a feeling you had for goodness sake. We know what your view is, it’s now getting a bit much reading it every day on every thread that gives you a chance and then suggesting anyone who disagrees they are somehow factually incorrect. I’m starting to hope he gets sacked so you can get on with claiming you were right all along, based on very little, and then we can move on. I don’t particularly hold an opinion of him as yet by the way but I’d give him some time with a level playing field (based on sitting in the stand that is, behind the scenes I don’t know and therefore won’t speculate what might be happening). LOL, maybe I should be like you and not form an opinion, are you like that in all aspects of your life too? “Making stuff up constantly”? What the fcuk are you on about you clown. Feel free to not form an opinion but don’t criticise me for having one. If you can’t see what 70% of town fans have already noticed that’s your issue not mine. If you don’t like opinions don’t come on here. If it’s mine specifically you don’t like block me or don’t read my posts. I didn’t realise documentary evidence was required in order to express an opinion on here, making stuff up, lol. |
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Post by blueandbrightside on May 1, 2019 22:22:44 GMT 1
I wouldn’t say jumping to conclusions, more like just making up stuff, constantly. Are the quotes and rumours you’ve heard based on reading back all your posts saying it? A lot of people, i.e ones you don’t agree with, don’t think the same as you. I could say ‘far more’ but I’d be making that up, as you have. Your brilliant insight was qualified by you saying it was based on a feeling you had for goodness sake. We know what your view is, it’s now getting a bit much reading it every day on every thread that gives you a chance and then suggesting anyone who disagrees they are somehow factually incorrect. I’m starting to hope he gets sacked so you can get on with claiming you were right all along, based on very little, and then we can move on. I don’t particularly hold an opinion of him as yet by the way but I’d give him some time with a level playing field (based on sitting in the stand that is, behind the scenes I don’t know and therefore won’t speculate what might be happening). LOL, maybe I should be like you and not form an opinion, are you like that in all aspects of your life too? “Making stuff up constantly”? What the fcuk are you on about you clown. Feel free to not form an opinion but don’t criticise me for having one. If you can’t see what 70% of town fans have already noticed that’s your issue not mine. If you don’t like opinions don’t come on here. If it’s mine specifically you don’t like block me or don’t read my posts. I didn’t realise documentary evidence was required in order to express an opinion on here, making stuff up, lol. I’m not criticising you for having an opinion, opinions is what this forum is about. Not that you read it but my opinion was give him more time. Evidence not required to have one either but you present your opinion as fact though and then add bits to try give it weight, hence make up (see 70% above - made up, lol?). You do also constantly repeat it, see your multitude of posts. You also shout others down who disagree as if your opinion is more valid - see your reply above. Nice response by the way, though JS was the angry one? Given this response should I not bother responding again then, you just keep on shouting and assume we all agree? |
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