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Post by arry11 on May 5, 2019 17:53:09 GMT 1
Think he will be a useful 1st team/squad player in the Championship add some option in our attack and midfield if JS wants us to play an attacking game.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on May 5, 2019 17:54:01 GMT 1
Good or bad, he is one of the few players who can get the crowd’s attention when he has that ball at his feet on the wing. You are just thinking ‘go on, take him on’. Players like that are dangerous. Yeah go on and take him on and see the defender tackle him with ease. Ok mate. Why do you bother? |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 5, 2019 17:55:08 GMT 1
Think he will be a useful 1st team/squad player in the Championship add some option in our attack and midfield if JS wants us to play an attacking game. Someone we've spent 11 million on isn't going to be a squad player |
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Post by arry11 on May 5, 2019 18:01:33 GMT 1
Think he will be a useful 1st team/squad player in the Championship add some option in our attack and midfield if JS wants us to play an attacking game. Someone we've spent 11 million on isn't going to be a squad player Well he as all this season and no matter how much he cost he will have to fight for the shirt. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 5, 2019 18:02:43 GMT 1
Someone we've spent 11 million on isn't going to be a squad player Well he as all this season and no matter how much he cost he will have to fight for the shirt. When fit he's pretty much always started under Siewart. He clearly sees something in him |
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Post by Town Duppy on May 5, 2019 18:06:10 GMT 1
My boy Diakhaby & Mbenza is gonna tear the championship a new arsehole next season!
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Post by arry11 on May 5, 2019 18:07:10 GMT 1
Well he as all this season and no matter how much he cost he will have to fight for the shirt. When fit he's pretty much always started under Siewart. He clearly sees something in him We will have to wait and see who we bring in another striker who can start will mean several players fighting for the shirt. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on May 5, 2019 18:43:34 GMT 1
My boy Diakhaby & Mbenza is gonna tear the championship a new arsehole next season! What about Ben Hamer? Think he'll do the job. |
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Post by Town Duppy on May 5, 2019 19:31:17 GMT 1
My boy Diakhaby & Mbenza is gonna tear the championship a new arsehole next season! What about Ben Hamer? Think he'll do the job. The circus are always looking for talent.  |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 5, 2019 19:38:16 GMT 1
Took his goal well but other than that was a passenger once again IMO.
The news that hes our player and for the bizarre amount we are supposed to have paid for him isn;t anything to celebrate IMO. Weve well and truly had our pants pulled down.
I really hope he comes good but it will take an enormous improvement for that to happen.
Not just in ability but in attitude too.
The championship is a rough and tough division and this lad will do anything he can to avoid the risk of being hurt. I worry most championship defenders will rub their hands together at how easy it will be to bully him out of games.
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Post by rastrick32 on May 5, 2019 19:54:27 GMT 1
He might take to the Championship and his pace will always be an asset. My main concern is that he needs a hell of a lot of onfield coaching. He doesn't seem to know where he should be and he hasn't a clue about what's happening behind his back. He needs a really good and disciplined full back and left sided centre half behind him.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 5, 2019 19:56:21 GMT 1
Took his goal well but other than that was a passenger once again IMO. The news that hes our player and for the bizarre amount we are supposed to have paid for him isn;t anything to celebrate IMO. Weve well and truly had our pants pulled down. I really hope he comes good but it will take an enormous improvement for that to happen. Not just in ability but in attitude too. The championship is a rough and tough division and this lad will do anything he can to avoid the risk of being hurt. I worry most championship defenders will rub their hands together at how easy it will be to bully him out of games. Traore looks just like Mbenza and Diakhaby in the Premier League. Quick but largely ineffectual He made Championship defenders look like they were playing with a 50kg rucksack on Some need to remember this is the Premier League we're playing in Kachunga looks like he belongs in the Conference when he plays against Premier League opposition. Yet he was more than good enough in the Championship Scott Malone is one of the best defenders in the Championship. Just let that sink in |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 5, 2019 20:05:08 GMT 1
Everyone was raving about Adama Traore last season in the championship but he's stepped up to the premier league & struggled to make an impact. He's played more minutes than Mbenza but got an identical record of 1 goal & 1 assist. Infact Mbenza has run more distance, has a better pass completion percentage & has been dispossessed far fewer times. So it shows the huge difference between the premier league & the championship, nobody knows how Mbenza will perform next season, he could be a revelation or he could flop, but until we see him perform in that division we have no idea.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 5, 2019 20:07:07 GMT 1
Took his goal well but other than that was a passenger once again IMO. The news that hes our player and for the bizarre amount we are supposed to have paid for him isn;t anything to celebrate IMO. Weve well and truly had our pants pulled down. I really hope he comes good but it will take an enormous improvement for that to happen. Not just in ability but in attitude too. The championship is a rough and tough division and this lad will do anything he can to avoid the risk of being hurt. I worry most championship defenders will rub their hands together at how easy it will be to bully him out of games. Traore looks just like Mbenza and Diakhaby in the Premier League. Quick but largely ineffectual He made Championship defenders look like they were playing with a 50kg rucksack on Some need to remember this is the Premier League we're playing in Kachunga looks like he belongs in the Conference when he plays against Premier League opposition. Yet he was more than good enough in the Championship Scott Malone is one of the best defenders in the Championship. Just let that sink in Kachunga has fight. Traore has fight ( and is built like a brick shithouse ) Mbenza has no fight in him whatsoever. He was pulling out of challenges today left right and centre- thats in a really high profile game live on the telly around the world. Defenders like Scott Malone might lack the technical ability of top prem defenders but they will see Mbenza as a very soft touch and target him for that. Honestly hes one of the most powderpuff players i can remember seeing. If he doesn;t grow some guts, start to fight and risk taking a knock here and there, then pace or not, he isn;t going to do anything in the championship IMO. |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 5, 2019 20:13:09 GMT 1
Traore looks just like Mbenza and Diakhaby in the Premier League. Quick but largely ineffectual He made Championship defenders look like they were playing with a 50kg rucksack on Some need to remember this is the Premier League we're playing in Kachunga looks like he belongs in the Conference when he plays against Premier League opposition. Yet he was more than good enough in the Championship Scott Malone is one of the best defenders in the Championship. Just let that sink in Kachunga has fight. Traore has fight ( and is built like a brick shithouse ) Mbenza has no fight in him whatsoever. He was pulling out of challenges today left right and centre- thats in a really high profile game live on the telly around the world. Defenders like Scott Malone might lack the technical ability of top prem defenders but they will see Mbenza as a very soft touch and target him for that. Honestly hes one of the most powderpuff players i can remember seeing. If he doesn;t grow some guts, start to fight and risk taking a knock here and there, then pace or not, he isn;t going to do anything in the championship IMO. Traore has won 13 out of 16 tackles & has been dispossessed on 45 occasions. Mbenza has won 9 out of 10 tackles & been dispossessed on 8 occasions. Not quite the beast you make him out to be. |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 5, 2019 20:15:59 GMT 1
Kachunga has fight. Traore has fight ( and is built like a brick shithouse ) Mbenza has no fight in him whatsoever. He was pulling out of challenges today left right and centre- thats in a really high profile game live on the telly around the world. Defenders like Scott Malone might lack the technical ability of top prem defenders but they will see Mbenza as a very soft touch and target him for that. Honestly hes one of the most powderpuff players i can remember seeing. If he doesn;t grow some guts, start to fight and risk taking a knock here and there, then pace or not, he isn;t going to do anything in the championship IMO. Traore has won 13 out of 16 tackles & has been dispossessed on 45 occasions. Mbenza has won 9 out of 10 tackles & been dispossessed on 8 occasions. Not quite the beast you make him out to be. Mbenza has won 9 out of 10 tackles? So hes only lost 1 tackle this season and only had the ball taken off him 8 times? That seems right to you? |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 5, 2019 20:17:53 GMT 1
Traore has won 13 out of 16 tackles & has been dispossessed on 45 occasions. Mbenza has won 9 out of 10 tackles & been dispossessed on 8 occasions. Not quite the beast you make him out to be. Mbenza has won 9 out of 10 tackles? So hes only lost 1 tackle this season and only had the ball taken off him 8 times? That seems right to you? That's what the official premier league stats say which are compiled by OPTA |
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Post by zoso on May 5, 2019 20:22:38 GMT 1
Is it? I have no idea tbh but it doesn't surprise me. Yes, apparently so, unless we sell to offset our outgoings most of our parachute payment is spoken for. |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 5, 2019 20:23:26 GMT 1
 But does that sound right though. Seriously? Only Im a little dubious as Im yet to notice him ever winning a challenge but have seen him bottle out of countless ones. |
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Post by trailingleg on May 5, 2019 20:34:42 GMT 1
That's it then. The final shot in his CV video or whatever it is now. Next stop Barca?
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Post by schindlersmissed on May 5, 2019 20:42:55 GMT 1
I've made no secret of the fact I'm not a fan of IM. But fair play to him today, he did really, really well. Even before the goal he looked like a completely different player to the one I've seen thus far. He still does some really stupid things which seem to stem from complacency more than lack of talent. One of those that probably needs a rocket up his backside from the manager most days But anyone who says he isn't a footballer haven't got a clue. Will be a good player in the Championship if he's still with us Amazing how we all seem the game differently- I’d be happy to never see him pull on the shirt again! Makes VLP seem like Vinnie Jones. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 20:47:22 GMT 1
Took his goal well but other than that was a passenger once again IMO. The news that hes our player and for the bizarre amount we are supposed to have paid for him isn;t anything to celebrate IMO. Weve well and truly had our pants pulled down. I really hope he comes good but it will take an enormous improvement for that to happen. Not just in ability but in attitude too. The championship is a rough and tough division and this lad will do anything he can to avoid the risk of being hurt. I worry most championship defenders will rub their hands together at how easy it will be to bully him out of games. What’s his attitude? |
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Post by bigtruck on May 5, 2019 20:47:57 GMT 1
He was awful for 3/4 of the game. A friend of mine went today for the first time. Got a text after saying he was the one of the laziest and most clueless players he’d seen.
Took his goal well. But he’s going to need a hell of a preseason to make an impact next year
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Post by teddytheterrier on May 5, 2019 20:49:11 GMT 1
Thought he was anonymous up until when he scored. Don't rate him.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 5, 2019 20:50:49 GMT 1
Took his goal well but other than that was a passenger once again IMO. The news that hes our player and for the bizarre amount we are supposed to have paid for him isn;t anything to celebrate IMO. Weve well and truly had our pants pulled down. I really hope he comes good but it will take an enormous improvement for that to happen. Not just in ability but in attitude too. The championship is a rough and tough division and this lad will do anything he can to avoid the risk of being hurt. I worry most championship defenders will rub their hands together at how easy it will be to bully him out of games. What’s his attitude? The attitude that he won;t risk getting hurt. Its a risk that comes with the job for any player but especially those with pace who play out wide. Mbenza pulls out of any challenge, even if hes the favourite to win it. Which ironically is more likely to get him injured. |
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Post by slackjaw on May 5, 2019 20:55:39 GMT 1
Scored a goal against Man Utd which apparently makes him the greatest footballer we’ve ever seen.
In reality he’s a fucking wage thief who has done absolutely nothing in his half a dozen appearances.
If the likes of this waster are here next season then we’ll be going down without a fight again.But I’m sure Jan knows better....
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Post by WirralTerrier on May 5, 2019 21:05:06 GMT 1
But does that sound right though. Seriously? Only Im a little dubious as Im yet to notice him ever winning a challenge but have seen him bottle out of countless ones. Off the top of my head in one of his first games he made a huge sprint back against Cardiff and sliding tackle to win the ball. |
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Post by ACW on May 5, 2019 21:05:10 GMT 1
Mbenza has won 9 out of 10 tackles? So hes only lost 1 tackle this season and only had the ball taken off him 8 times? That seems right to you? That's what the official premier league stats say which are compiled by OPTA You can't lose a tackle/challenge you don't go in for. Mbenza often doesn't even make a challenge, which probably skews the statistics a bit. He probably only goes in for ones 80/20 in his favour. He certainly often refuses to go in for ones that he may lose, and even those 60/40 in his favour. He may well be brilliant in the Championship - and as a Town fan I hope he is - but he needs to get stuck in more. The Championship is about hard work as much as skill, and we can't afford any shrinking violets. |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 21:05:55 GMT 1
The attitude that he won;t risk getting hurt. Its a risk that comes with the job for any player but especially those with pace who play out wide. Mbenza pulls out of any challenge, even if hes the favourite to win it. Which ironically is more likely to get him injured. I disagree. He doesn’t tackle very often and he’s not highly tactically aware, but that’s not his game. We need to move away from the idea that all attacking players have to get stuck in and concentrate on the clean sheet. It’s plainly obvious what kind of player he is, and I for one can’t wait to see what he can do when he’s not up against established internationals every week, playing for a manager who trusts in his ability. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 5, 2019 21:14:19 GMT 1
Traore has won 13 out of 16 tackles & has been dispossessed on 45 occasions. Mbenza has won 9 out of 10 tackles & been dispossessed on 8 occasions. Not quite the beast you make him out to be. Mbenza has won 9 out of 10 tackles? So hes only lost 1 tackle this season and only had the ball taken off him 8 times? That seems right to you? Is there a stat detailing total amount of challenges pulled out of? One in particular today was absolutely shocking and caused a Man Utd breakaway. Bet his style of play really impresses Hoggy |
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