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Post by galpharm2400 on May 4, 2019 15:11:47 GMT 1
Fully get that, but when it states he has purchased 75%, im just wondering how? By himself, which is hard to believe, or with others as part of a consortium, which obviously in the statement released, there is no mention. As fans we are right to quiz But why do you care HOW he has purchased 75% ?? Are you worried it’s the proceeds of crime or something?? Quite feasible that he’s taken on the control for figurative peanuts. It’s a company that is loaded with more than £50m in directors loans, it’s worth nothing. the income is guaranteed but not here as yet.. the wages and outgoings are nowhere near set as yet.. bloke is chairman/owner of a business in flux..we have gained/lost nothing from 2 days ago other than someone who Dean trusts to take the club on whoever's money is being used or will be in the future.. some have got to get away from the idea that the owner/chairman HAS to have huge personal wealth.. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 15:49:19 GMT 1
Fully get that, but when it states he has purchased 75%, im just wondering how? By himself, which is hard to believe, or with others as part of a consortium, which obviously in the statement released, there is no mention. As fans we are right to quiz and like i said, i back DH and his decision and i fully back this new man, i was merely bringing up some points, to which this weird creature has quoted anyone asking questions. Its a forum, its what it is used for and im only saying what i and others see in terms of his own financial clout. What happens when the parachute payments are no more etc, does he fund it himself? Whats the long term? But then again, i wont ask it as that muppet will quote and tell me to send a pigeon inviting DH to have a meeting face to face and ask it himself. Sure someone will ask a question along the lines at Canalside however you are allowed to wonder, the club has no duty to tell you.. clearly he himself does not have the assets at this time but this does not preclude him having authority over spending/investing someone/organisation's money if they do not wish, at this time, to be named etc.. The full agreements may have many, many clauses regarding extra investment should we get promoted or get outs if we dont etc.. Even if 3 Russian oligarchs had taken over in a blaze of photo opportunity media blitz announcements most of the financial agreements would not be public knowledge.. Dean's loans to the club are still running so its possible they are not being paid back as yet so its probably quite complicated but the nub is that the same money is available as it was 2 days ago and sales/purchases are still as important as they were 2 days ago.. Gee you're getting paranoid now... |
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Post by Melc on May 4, 2019 16:01:47 GMT 1
What’s the craic with canal side now? Heard very little recently. The development has been delayed until Summer 2020. I’m sure conspiracy theories will abound about it but it’s for seemingly sensible reasons. Might get more clarity on it from Deano tomorrow & our direction of travel from here on as a club. I think it’s great that we have another town custodian at the helm & that the great man remains. Let’s hope this is just the start of another great era. Thank you Deano & good luck to Phil. Let’s get right behind them & enjoy the ride. Who has said the work has been stopped? |
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Post by htfc63 on May 4, 2019 16:07:46 GMT 1
It saddens me looking at some posts on here which are criticising a guy before he has even started. I saw my first game in 1963 and to be honest over the years I have seen more downs than ups and us struggling near the bottom of the old 4th division. In that time we had Rubery with his wealth but money wasted by Bruce on hasbeens and garbage players such as Donis. I never thought anything would ever eclipse the Buxton era which was built by stealth and a shrewd approach. We then experienced what it’s like to be run by Davy who had no interest in the football side of Huddersfield and was mercenary enough to go back on his word regarding the handing over of shares in the ground at the price he paid for them.
Then Dean came along and transformed our club into something to be proud of not only on the field but also in our local community with his focus on charities such as breakfast clubs and the Yorkshire air ambulance. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I would ever see Huddersfield in the premier league and I am extremely grateful that my father who died on the day we beat Man Utd at home was also able to see us in the top flight.
In saying all of this my initial thoughts of the premier league have been justified in that it is the “greedy league “ with mercenary players / agents and clubs ripping off fans when they have the chance. I for one will certainly be backing Phil as I would rather have a true Town fan in charge than some Chinese or Saudi backed owner who backs us for a while then gets bored and leaves. Hopefully after the clear out of some players this summer we can galvanise a squad who really want to play for our club rather than just the ridiculous salaries even mediocre footballers earn.
Please get behind our club and let’s establish ourselves as a competitive championship side.
On a final note I want to thank Dean for the huge sacrifice has made in his personal life in order to put Town on a solid financial footing and a following which has tripled since he took over.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 16:20:25 GMT 1
Fully get that, but when it states he has purchased 75%, im just wondering how? By himself, which is hard to believe, or with others as part of a consortium, which obviously in the statement released, there is no mention. As fans we are right to quiz But why do you care HOW he has purchased 75% ?? Are you worried it’s the proceeds of crime or something?? Quite feasible that he’s taken on the control for figurative peanuts. It’s a company that is loaded with more than £50m in directors loans, it’s worth nothing. I wonder where he has his so called money from. Its not really hard to grasp considering you need serious clout these days to run a club and not just one thats gone from the Premier League to the Championship. Does it not strike you as odd, but then again he could have proceeds of crime, Southport, close to Liverpool, probably on the Class A from Amsterdam job obviously, how fucking idiotic of me |
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Post by kennyk2 on May 4, 2019 16:22:02 GMT 1
It saddens me looking at some posts on here which are criticising a guy before he has even started. I saw my first game in 1963 and to be honest over the years I have seen more downs than ups and us struggling near the bottom of the old 4th division. In that time we had Rubery with his wealth but money wasted by Bruce on hasbeens and garbage players such as Donis. I never thought anything would ever eclipse the Buxton era which was built by stealth and a shrewd approach. We then experienced what it’s like to be run by Davy who had no interest in the football side of Huddersfield and was mercenary enough to go back on his word regarding the handing over of shares in the ground at the price he paid for them. Then Dean came along and transformed our club into something to be proud of not only on the field but also in our local community with his focus on charities such as breakfast clubs and the Yorkshire air ambulance. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I would ever see Huddersfield in the premier league and I am extremely grateful that my father who died on the day we beat Man Utd at home was also able to see us in the top flight. In saying all of this my initial thoughts of the premier league have been justified in that it is the “greedy league “ with mercenary players / agents and clubs ripping off fans when they have the chance. I for one will certainly be backing Phil as I would rather have a true Town fan in charge than some Chinese or Saudi backed owner who backs us for a while then gets bored and leaves. Hopefully after the clear out of some players this summer we can galvanise a squad who really want to play for our club rather than just the ridiculous salaries even mediocre footballers earn. Please get behind our club and let’s establish ourselves as a competitive championship side. On a final note I want to thank Dean for the huge sacrifice has made in his personal life in order to put Town on a solid financial footing and a following which has tripled since he took over. Well said. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 16:22:25 GMT 1
But why do you care HOW he has purchased 75% ?? Are you worried it’s the proceeds of crime or something?? Quite feasible that he’s taken on the control for figurative peanuts. It’s a company that is loaded with more than £50m in directors loans, it’s worth nothing. the income is guaranteed but not here as yet.. the wages and outgoings are nowhere near set as yet.. bloke is chairman/owner of a business in flux..we have gained/lost nothing from 2 days ago other than someone who Dean trusts to take the club on whoever's money is being used or will be in the future.. some have got to get away from the idea that the owner/chairman HAS to have huge personal wealth.. He doesnt no, correct. Enlighten me as to what happens should we not go back up and the money stops in parachute payments? Who is bankrolling us like Dean did? Will Dean do that again? Right now isnt my concern, its in a few years, what happens then when we are hitting losses, it will happen |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 16:23:42 GMT 1
you are allowed to wonder, the club has no duty to tell you.. clearly he himself does not have the assets at this time but this does not preclude him having authority over spending/investing someone/organisation's money if they do not wish, at this time, to be named etc.. The full agreements may have many, many clauses regarding extra investment should we get promoted or get outs if we dont etc.. Even if 3 Russian oligarchs had taken over in a blaze of photo opportunity media blitz announcements most of the financial agreements would not be public knowledge.. Dean's loans to the club are still running so its possible they are not being paid back as yet so its probably quite complicated but the nub is that the same money is available as it was 2 days ago and sales/purchases are still as important as they were 2 days ago.. Gee you're getting paranoid now... Paranoid? No youre just a prick pulling people up who have a concern. Fuck off |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 16:29:23 GMT 1
Gee you're getting paranoid now... Paranoid? No youre just a prick pulling people up who have a concern. Fuck off You're obviously an opinionated guy - and a feisty one at that. You can swear and abuse all you like - but why the anger? You should also note the irony of justifying your own criticism of the new guys so called lack of funds whilst getting increasingly irritated by mine and others criticism of your perspective - grow up! |
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Post by southportfan on May 4, 2019 16:42:58 GMT 1
I've been a Southport fc fan for over 30 years so I thought I'd give my take on Phil hodgkinson.
He tried to take over the club 2 summers ago but our new owners (a local accountancy firm)wouldn't entertain him,they publicly said he had no money and listed questions about business background including allegedly being questioned about fraud.
Phil reacted by launching a 'back the bid' campaign including public meetings in hotels in Southport where he promised us football league,new ground,new training ground basically the world😂.
To cut a long story a bit shorter he came on board about 20 months ago along with another director.
We came to our lowest league position in over 20 years last season but have bettered that this season by 1 place😂.
We've had 2million quid of shares put into the club to pay for a refurb of 1_stand and more backroom staff than most premier league clubs😯
He leaves us with a staff bill which is massively unsustainable for a load of rubbish no-one will want or could afford and could most of our fans fear could bankrupt us.
Phil will promise u premier league titles champions league but if he says it's day check outside yourself 😤
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Post by softboy on May 4, 2019 16:46:28 GMT 1
DH has sold 75% 0f the club and kept 25% so he must have trust in the new majority shareholder -its just a shame that quite a few on here don't trust DH to do what he feels best for the club going forward!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 18:46:00 GMT 1
DH has sold 75% 0f the club and kept 25% so he must have trust in the new majority shareholder -its just a shame that quite a few on here don't trust DH to do what he feels best for the club going forward! Perhaps this has already been posted, however.... Many thanks Phil |
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Post by town1907 on May 4, 2019 18:51:29 GMT 1
I've been a Southport fc fan for over 30 years so I thought I'd give my take on Phil hodgkinson. He tried to take over the club 2 summers ago but our new owners (a local accountancy firm)wouldn't entertain him,they publicly said he had no money and listed questions about business background including allegedly being questioned about fraud.Phil reacted by launching a 'back the bid' campaign including public meetings in hotels in Southport where he promised us football league,new ground,new training ground basically the world😂. To cut a long story a bit shorter he came on board about 20 months ago along with another director. We came to our lowest league position in over 20 years last season but have bettered that this season by 1 place😂. We've had 2million quid of shares put into the club to pay for a refurb of 1_stand and more backroom staff than most premier league clubs😯 He leaves us with a staff bill which is massively unsustainable for a load of rubbish no-one will want or could afford and could most of our fans fear could bankrupt us. Phil will promise u premier league titles champions league but if he says it's day check outside yourself 😤 Can you provide evidence of this particularly the part I have highlighted? The statement on your club's website is totally different to what you have posted. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 19:15:50 GMT 1
I've been a Southport fc fan for over 30 years so I thought I'd give my take on Phil hodgkinson. He tried to take over the club 2 summers ago but our new owners (a local accountancy firm)wouldn't entertain him,they publicly said he had no money and listed questions about business background including allegedly being questioned about fraud.Phil reacted by launching a 'back the bid' campaign including public meetings in hotels in Southport where he promised us football league,new ground,new training ground basically the world😂. To cut a long story a bit shorter he came on board about 20 months ago along with another director. We came to our lowest league position in over 20 years last season but have bettered that this season by 1 place😂. We've had 2million quid of shares put into the club to pay for a refurb of 1_stand and more backroom staff than most premier league clubs😯 He leaves us with a staff bill which is massively unsustainable for a load of rubbish no-one will want or could afford and could most of our fans fear could bankrupt us. Phil will promise u premier league titles champions league but if he says it's day check outside yourself 😤 Can you provide evidence of this particularly the part I have highlighted? The statement on your club's website is totally different to what you have posted. |
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Post by southportfan on May 4, 2019 19:19:31 GMT 1
All in the history pages of 'portchat' and sure you can find lots about it on the internet the chairman was James Treadwell.
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Post by southportfan on May 4, 2019 19:25:33 GMT 1
Phil's a interesting guy even at our level clubs around us laughed at our 'chairman's attacking fans on Twitter on Saturday night's and argueing with the ex chairman on Facebook it will be fun for you for a while.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 4, 2019 19:44:11 GMT 1
The way this season's panned out I'd be more than happy for us to be a middling Championship club next season. You’ll be right with this shyster in charge then. Shyster?? What the fuck ? Is there something wrong with you? |
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Post by kes on May 4, 2019 19:46:19 GMT 1
A few questions I think we are entitled to ask. How much has the club been sold for ? We have reportedly returned profits of around 27 million from season one in the PL & I would expect similar from the second year. What happens to this money ? How much does the club now owe Dean Hoyle ? He has pumped in over 50 million quid in ten years. Future of canalside. Who owns it ? Are we still taking control of the stadium ?
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Post by mickwadsworth26 on May 4, 2019 19:47:15 GMT 1
Ssshhh you are not allowed to ask questions
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Post by Torquayterrier on May 4, 2019 19:51:18 GMT 1
Not time to read whole thread so maybe repeating stuff. Dean Hoyle always said he would give up control to the right sort of buyer so we have to show some trust and he will still be around to offer advice when needed. At least the new owner has knowledge of the club and previous experience of the inner workings of football clubs elsewhere so he's not coming into it eyes closed. We might have to recalibrate the budget and maybe some expectations too but it's too early to tell. We will all let mr Hoyle know once again the high regard he's held at the club at various stages of tomorrow afternoon I'm sure.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 4, 2019 19:54:14 GMT 1
Ssshhh you are not allowed to ask questions Thats bollocks isn;t it. Everyones always asked questions and you know what, the club has gone out of its way to answer them. Do you think its normal practice for owners of other clubs to do regular Q&A evenings with fans?? Supporters will have legitimate questions about this and rightly so. Ask them and Im sure you'll get an answer. What they don;t have the right to do is insult and slag off this new owner like some utter bellend internet warrior and by doing that, indirectly slag off and insult Dean Hoyle at the same time. |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 20:00:13 GMT 1
Phil's a interesting guy even at our level clubs around us laughed at our 'chairman's attacking fans on Twitter on Saturday night's and argueing with the ex chairman on Facebook it will be fun for you for a while. He' ll be ok here, i'm sure 'jackass' will have some words of wisdom for him.  |
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Post by mickwadsworth26 on May 4, 2019 20:04:15 GMT 1
Calm down pal
Dean Hoyle has done an amazing job for this football club as jack walker did for Blackburn. The future is far from certain let’s see the questions and answers tomorrow.
The Southport fan seems a bit bitter maybe
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 20:10:36 GMT 1
But why do you care HOW he has purchased 75% ?? Are you worried it’s the proceeds of crime or something?? Quite feasible that he’s taken on the control for figurative peanuts. It’s a company that is loaded with more than £50m in directors loans, it’s worth nothing. the income is guaranteed but not here as yet.. the wages and outgoings are nowhere near set as yet.. bloke is chairman/owner of a business in flux..we have gained/lost nothing from 2 days ago other than someone who Dean trusts to take the club on whoever's money is being used or will be in the future.. some have got to get away from the idea that the owner/chairman HAS to have huge personal wealth.. i agree they have |
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2019 20:16:07 GMT 1
It saddens me looking at some posts on here which are criticising a guy before he has even started. I saw my first game in 1963 and to be honest over the years I have seen more downs than ups and us struggling near the bottom of the old 4th division. In that time we had Rubery with his wealth but money wasted by Bruce on hasbeens and garbage players such as Donis. I never thought anything would ever eclipse the Buxton era which was built by stealth and a shrewd approach. We then experienced what it’s like to be run by Davy who had no interest in the football side of Huddersfield and was mercenary enough to go back on his word regarding the handing over of shares in the ground at the price he paid for them. Then Dean came along and transformed our club into something to be proud of not only on the field but also in our local community with his focus on charities such as breakfast clubs and the Yorkshire air ambulance. Never in my wildest dreams did I think I would ever see Huddersfield in the premier league and I am extremely grateful that my father who died on the day we beat Man Utd at home was also able to see us in the top flight. In saying all of this my initial thoughts of the premier league have been justified in that it is the “greedy league “ with mercenary players / agents and clubs ripping off fans when they have the chance. I for one will certainly be backing Phil as I would rather have a true Town fan in charge than some Chinese or Saudi backed owner who backs us for a while then gets bored and leaves. Hopefully after the clear out of some players this summer we can galvanise a squad who really want to play for our club rather than just the ridiculous salaries even mediocre footballers earn. Please get behind our club and let’s establish ourselves as a competitive championship side. On a final note I want to thank Dean for the huge sacrifice has made in his personal life in order to put Town on a solid financial footing and a following which has tripled since he took over. agree with you I said if a deal goes through people on here will be critical of it when theuy haver no idea what it entails. lets get on with it and be thankfull we have a well run club utt |
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