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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 13:08:55 GMT 1
Lol "an ambulance chaser with no money" sounds a bit harsh! If he has no money i presume he is coming with a consortium of other bloodless, parasitic ambulance chasers/asset strippers:p. I presume dean has kept the 25% to make sure there are no shenanigans like this Joe, you could be Chairman and 'designated' owner of a huge company on a wage plus bonuses, without having a quid of your own in the accounts.. Can he sign a company cheque for the amount required?? if so then its then down to his accumen on getting the best deal for that cheque.. The money and where it comes from, even with Dean owning the club, was and always will be a long and very windy road that its come down.. Are you saying he’s going to source funds from pure legal to fund town acquisitions? |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 13:11:34 GMT 1
Truthfully I’d rather a seasoned successful self made millionaire Town fan run the club in a sensible way Than A wealthy investor playing roulette with the clubs very existence. It’s almost like Ruberry never happened! Ideally I’d like a billionaire town fan but there isn’t one. Instead give me a sensible sustainable planning over a reckless short term gamble any day It depends where you want the club to end up. Yo yo club between champs and prem or middling/struggling championship side? |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 13:21:44 GMT 1
I've been a Southport fc fan for over 30 years so I thought I'd give my take on Phil hodgkinson. He tried to take over the club 2 summers ago but our new owners (a local accountancy firm)wouldn't entertain him,they publicly said he had no money and listed questions about business background including allegedly being questioned about fraud. Phil reacted by launching a 'back the bid' campaign including public meetings in hotels in Southport where he promised us football league,new ground,new training ground basically the world😂. To cut a long story a bit shorter he came on board about 20 months ago along with another director. We came to our lowest league position in over 20 years last season but have bettered that this season by 1 place😂. We've had 2million quid of shares put into the club to pay for a refurb of 1_stand and more backroom staff than most premier league clubs😯 He leaves us with a staff bill which is massively unsustainable for a load of rubbish no-one will want or could afford and could most of our fans fear could bankrupt us. Phil will promise u premier league titles champions league but if he says it's day check outside yourself 😤 Sounds about right for me. Extremely worrying. This guy is a legal slime ball with a murky business history, who makes money from other people’s distress. I can’t get behind a guy like this anymore than I could if we had Cardiff or Chelsea’s owners...but at least they had money. I’m sorry for Dean as his health must be much worse certainly than I realised. I hope he makes a full recovery and enjoys his retirement. As for Town I see a very bad turn in our fortunes with this guy in charge. People that run legal firms are not actually business people. They don’t create any wealth nor do they have any management of people or leadership skills. Legal firms are anti business and anti growth. |
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Post by meraboy on May 5, 2019 13:35:29 GMT 1
Disappointed that Dean Hoyle has chosen Hodgkinson as our new owner. From non league Southport to Huddersfield Town is a big move. He is alleged to be a long term town supporter ??, has he been coming to all town games whilst he has been involved with Southport ??. When Pure Legal became main sponsors Hodgkinson was strongly rumoured to be a Liverpool fan. Of course this was rumour only.
Yes it is obvious Dean Hoyle is desperate to get out and I am not surprised. He has taken the minnows to great things in the past 10 years which will be remembered for decades to come. But his legacy to sell 75% of the clubs shareholding to someone who obviously has little capital to finance what is still a top club is surprising and I believe will prove his undoing in the coming seasons.
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 5, 2019 18:15:56 GMT 1
Joe, you could be Chairman and 'designated' owner of a huge company on a wage plus bonuses, without having a quid of your own in the accounts.. Can he sign a company cheque for the amount required?? if so then its then down to his accumen on getting the best deal for that cheque.. The money and where it comes from, even with Dean owning the club, was and always will be a long and very windy road that its come down.. Are you saying he’s going to source funds from pure legal to fund town acquisitions? same as you I have no idea at this time where the money for him to takeover the club has/is coming from.. although I do take issue with some who state he has no money at all and we are doomed.. There has to be money coming from somewhere but to say we 'have' to have additional tens of millions above the funds already here, the parachute money and from player sales is just not true.. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 5, 2019 18:19:10 GMT 1
Disappointed that Dean Hoyle has chosen Hodgkinson as our new owner. From non league Southport to Huddersfield Town is a big move. He is alleged to be a long term town supporter ??, has he been coming to all town games whilst he has been involved with Southport ??. When Pure Legal became main sponsors Hodgkinson was strongly rumoured to be a Liverpool fan. Of course this was rumour only. Yes it is obvious Dean Hoyle is desperate to get out and I am not surprised. He has taken the minnows to great things in the past 10 years which will be remembered for decades to come. But his legacy to sell 75% of the clubs shareholding to someone who obviously has little capital to finance what is still a top club is surprising and I believe will prove his undoing in the coming seasons. you would have to prove he has 'sold' 75% of the club to one man and the receipt for it.. The rest of your post is just tittle tattle and vague speculation.. I await disappointment or excitement, I don't just have a guess about it when none of the facts are really known.. If you wish to be disappointed then crack on.. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 5, 2019 18:21:28 GMT 1
Disappointed that Dean Hoyle has chosen Hodgkinson as our new owner. From non league Southport to Huddersfield Town is a big move. He is alleged to be a long term town supporter ??, has he been coming to all town games whilst he has been involved with Southport ??. When Pure Legal became main sponsors Hodgkinson was strongly rumoured to be a Liverpool fan. Of course this was rumour only. Yes it is obvious Dean Hoyle is desperate to get out and I am not surprised. He has taken the minnows to great things in the past 10 years which will be remembered for decades to come. But his legacy to sell 75% of the clubs shareholding to someone who obviously has little capital to finance what is still a top club is surprising and I believe will prove his undoing in the coming seasons. Five years and two posts ago you were writing this . Maybe come back in five years and say something positive ? We're not just Skybets favourite for relegation but the obvious choice with Blackpool due to Dean Hoyle's loss of interest in our team. He is rarely at the club now and unwilling to put his hand in his pocket unless he is forced to. He and his fellow Directors made the statement that we must have 'sustainability' as a club and pay our way. This would be fine if we were in the conference but with a bill in excess of £1 million a year for stadium rent and costs and wages in the region of £15k per week to the likes of James Vaughan we have no chance whatsoever of paying our way. So Dean Hoyle who blazed into town as our saviour and the man who got us in to the Championship must dig deep spend more of his millions and get us into the top half of our league. Only that will pull in more support and give the slim chance of sustainability. If not we are guaranteed the 'drop'. Read more: downatthemac.proboards.com/user/12984/recent#ixzz5n4W1bPDe |
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Post by Mecha Corte on May 5, 2019 18:27:39 GMT 1
Disappointed that Dean Hoyle has chosen Hodgkinson as our new owner. From non league Southport to Huddersfield Town is a big move. He is alleged to be a long term town supporter ??, has he been coming to all town games whilst he has been involved with Southport ??. When Pure Legal became main sponsors Hodgkinson was strongly rumoured to be a Liverpool fan. Of course this was rumour only. Yes it is obvious Dean Hoyle is desperate to get out and I am not surprised. He has taken the minnows to great things in the past 10 years which will be remembered for decades to come. But his legacy to sell 75% of the clubs shareholding to someone who obviously has little capital to finance what is still a top club is surprising and I believe will prove his undoing in the coming seasons. It's rumoured that celebrity Man U fan and Countdown presenter, Rachael Riley, bumped into me at Canslside this morning, was totally infatuated and as a consequence we are now in her St. George's hotel suite enjoying a threesome with her friend Suzie Dent. Keep spreading this rumour, I can't wait to see the looks on my mates faces when they get told. |
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Post by terrierhx on May 5, 2019 18:29:52 GMT 1
Plenty as well stating that he’d done a great job and plenty gutted that he was moving on...... |
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Post by fishfingersandwich on May 5, 2019 18:47:59 GMT 1
10,000 fans paying 10 quid each for 23 home games also chucked in 2.3Mn a year. Then there is travel, merchandise, pies and pints, away games, cup games etc Off the top of my head, 6m was from that stuff, 5m from Hoyle so budget was around 11m. The final Championship season figures included big bonuses for promotion. Big bonuses pod for by the earnings from promotion. Pod for by TV. Some on here think Deano paid these bonuses. Same bonuses are in all contracts for Chumpionship players |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 19:05:00 GMT 1
10,000 fans paying 10 quid each for 23 home games also chucked in 2.3Mn a year. Then there is travel, merchandise, pies and pints, away games, cup games etc Why do people always include food and pints in the apparent hardship of following Town. Would you not have eaten otherwise? Would you have gone to the pub anyway? Think you’ve misinterpreted, he wasn’t writing about the the hardship of the poor long suffering Town fans, he was writing about the money that we put into the club. (although of course the pies and pints contributes nothing...and the cut from away tickets is miniscule). |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 5, 2019 19:05:05 GMT 1
Truthfully I’d rather a seasoned successful self made millionaire Town fan run the club in a sensible way Than A wealthy investor playing roulette with the clubs very existence. It’s almost like Ruberry never happened! Ideally I’d like a billionaire town fan but there isn’t one. Instead give me a sensible sustainable planning over a reckless short term gamble any day It depends where you want the club to end up. Yo yo club between champs and prem or middling/struggling championship side? Or in league two again with only 8 players and no other assets |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 19:08:49 GMT 1
It depends where you want the club to end up. Yo yo club between champs and prem or middling/struggling championship side? Or in league two again with only 8 players and no other assets No danger that won’t happen anyway and it doesn’t have to be one thing or the other. Plenty of successful owners that aren’t boyhood fans, likewise lots of boyhood fan owners don’t make successful chairman. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 5, 2019 19:18:21 GMT 1
Or in league two again with only 8 players and no other assets No danger that won’t happen anyway and it doesn’t have to be one thing or the other. Plenty of successful owners that aren’t boyhood fans, likewise lots of boyhood fan owners don’t make successful chairman. No just far far more likely Literally there is Bolton - a team with far more success in the 2000s than Town and recently bankrolled by a local fan done good who wrote off £200m - and tonight they are staring at the abyss Yet we have fans expecting we take the same risks just so they can tell their mates they watch a premier league side! |
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Post by NoToTrumpDonors on May 5, 2019 19:32:42 GMT 1
No danger that won’t happen anyway and it doesn’t have to be one thing or the other. Plenty of successful owners that aren’t boyhood fans, likewise lots of boyhood fan owners don’t make successful chairman. No just far far more likely Literally there is Bolton - a team with far more recent success than Town previously bankrolled by a local fan done good who wrote off £200m - and tonight that are staring at the abyss Yet we have fans expecting we take the same risks just so they can tell their mates they watch a premier league side! There are plenty of successful teams with overseas owners. Which club in the premier league is run by a penniless ‘lifetime fan’ (just how long has pauper Phil been a lifetime fan anyway)? The thing is, when a club with foreign owners goes tits up it’s because they were foreign owners. Things go wrong under a lifetime fan and it’s never because they were a fan. No one ever says ‘what do you expect with a fan running the club. |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 5, 2019 19:49:34 GMT 1
'Penniless'? 'Pauper'?.. the guys a multi-millionaire.
Is he not rich enough for your liking? Well tough.
Rather than rolling about on the floor having a tantrum like a spoilt little girl, just stop going. Get a different hobby.
Or get in touch with dean and put your tens of millions on the table.
The planks are really out in force this week.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 5, 2019 20:03:42 GMT 1
No just far far more likely Literally there is Bolton - a team with far more recent success than Town previously bankrolled by a local fan done good who wrote off £200m - and tonight that are staring at the abyss Yet we have fans expecting we take the same risks just so they can tell their mates they watch a premier league side! There are plenty of successful teams with overseas owners. Which club in the premier league is run by a penniless ‘lifetime fan’ (just how long has pauper Phil been a lifetime fan anyway)? The thing is, when a club with foreign owners goes tits up it’s because they were foreign owners. Things go wrong under a lifetime fan and it’s never because they were a fan. No one ever says ‘what do you expect with a fan running the club. You can list about 3 similar sized clubs were it’s going well right now but when they drop - and they will - how will they cope? Also against that the football league is littered with literally dozens of the car crashes who “lived the dream” and are now basket cases - many of these sides bigger than town Big spending owners who “fancy being a football chairman” doesn’t lead to automatic success and more often end in tears |
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Post by NoToTrumpDonors on May 5, 2019 20:29:03 GMT 1
'Penniless'? 'Pauper'?.. the guys a multi-millionaire. Is he not rich enough for your liking? Well tough. Rather than rolling about on the floor having a tantrum like a spoilt little girl, just stop going. Get a different hobby. Or get in touch with dean and put your tens of millions on the table. The planks are really out in force this week. You clearly don’t need tens of millions to take over town. And I’m not being called a plank by someone who last year said Town needed to replace Mooy to move forward and then claimed they’d done good business in August. |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 5, 2019 20:43:53 GMT 1
Im not sure I ever said that about our summer business.
On paper it seemed ok,,, lad who played a lot for Monaco the previous season, a Belgian u21international, a lad from Germany's WC winning squad, the highly impressive Kongolo, lad from the dutch top flight... but I like to see the goods before passing comment usually.
And i stand by that about Mooy. Very good player but if we wanted to move further up the prem table, his was a key position that needed to be improved on, amongst others.
If you don;t want to be called a plank, stop acting like one. Youre coming out with some right infantile bollocks about our new owner. A vastly wealthy, successful man you know nothing about yet call him a pauper and penniless.
Its disrespectful to him and Dean hoyle, and neither deserve any of it, even from a fantastically successful businessman as you must be.
If hes a pauper, you must have a lot of money. So put it on the table and persuade Dean youre a better option for the club than Hodgkinson is rather than this endless bleating and blubbering on here.
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Post by NoToTrumpDonors on May 5, 2019 21:16:43 GMT 1
In football terms your new best pal Phil is not rich. Nor is he a successful businessman as far as I can gather. But I’m no massively successful business man myself as you so astutely surmised so what do I know?
And I don’t think I’m the one having a tantrum.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on May 5, 2019 21:29:56 GMT 1
In football terms your new best pal Phil is not rich. Nor is he a successful businessman as far as I can gather. But I’m no massively successful business man myself as you so astutely surmised so what do I know? And I don’t think I’m the one having a tantrum. You must be a wealthy man and have high standards on “successful businessmen” Hodgkinson set up a business called Compass in 2001 which he sold in 2013 for £14m www.litigationfutures.com/news/hodgkinson-returns-costs-world-purest-intentionsNot Hoyle wealth (is anyone in Hudson wealthier than him though) but not exactly unsuccessful or pauper |
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2019 21:32:59 GMT 1
In football terms your new best pal Phil is not rich. Nor is he a successful businessman as far as I can gather. But I’m no massively successful business man myself as you so astutely surmised so what do I know? And I don’t think I’m the one having a tantrum. DH said PH had the capacity for more business success than DH, so he has clearly done due diligence to understand better than you! |
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Post by 4 pts on May 5, 2019 23:05:51 GMT 1
Im not sure I ever said that about our summer business. On paper it seemed ok,,, lad who played a lot for Monaco the previous season, a Belgian u21international, a lad from Germany's WC winning squad, the highly impressive Kongolo, lad from the dutch top flight... but I like to see the goods before passing comment usually. And i stand by that about Mooy. Very good player but if we wanted to move further up the prem table, his was a key position that needed to be improved on, amongst others. If you don;t want to be called a plank, stop acting like one. Youre coming out with some right infantile bollocks about our new owner. A vastly wealthy, successful man you know nothing about yet call him a pauper and penniless. Its disrespectful to him and Dean hoyle, and neither deserve any of it, even from a fantastically successful businessman as you must be. If hes a pauper, you must have a lot of money. So put it on the table and persuade Dean youre a better option for the club than Hodgkinson is rather than this endless bleating and blubbering on here. Pauper and penniless aside, people do have the right to be concerned about the club they support Captain and knowing of this guy, I will air on the side of caution......for now. I will now take my two penneth away for another few months UTT |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 5, 2019 23:47:54 GMT 1
Im not sure I ever said that about our summer business. On paper it seemed ok,,, lad who played a lot for Monaco the previous season, a Belgian u21international, a lad from Germany's WC winning squad, the highly impressive Kongolo, lad from the dutch top flight... but I like to see the goods before passing comment usually. And i stand by that about Mooy. Very good player but if we wanted to move further up the prem table, his was a key position that needed to be improved on, amongst others. If you don;t want to be called a plank, stop acting like one. Youre coming out with some right infantile bollocks about our new owner. A vastly wealthy, successful man you know nothing about yet call him a pauper and penniless. Its disrespectful to him and Dean hoyle, and neither deserve any of it, even from a fantastically successful businessman as you must be. If hes a pauper, you must have a lot of money. So put it on the table and persuade Dean youre a better option for the club than Hodgkinson is rather than this endless bleating and blubbering on here. Pauper and penniless aside, people do have the right to be concerned about the club they support Captain and knowing of this guy, I will air on the side of caution......for now. I will now take my two penneth away for another few months UTT Yeah, no problem with people having concerns and genuine questions. But then theres those who just want to endlessly blubber on because he isn;t rich enough to chuck tens of millions at their hobby and in the midst of their wailing ,insult a very successful businessmen, lifelong Town fan and a man who was INVITED to become involved by Dean Hoyle. |
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Post by portugalterrier on May 5, 2019 23:49:58 GMT 1
Maybe wishful thinking but having been in business most of my working life, selling out and taking early retirement, similar to Dean Hoyle, though nowhere as financially successful, being ill and recovered, I believe after a period of time and a realisation that being retired at an early age can be somewhat boring I would hope that Dean Hoyle May return to the mighty Terriers at some point in time and to complete the dream bring a rejuvenated Wagner back, lots of entrepreneurs just can’t leave trade alone and it’s the same with football. Here’s hoping.
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Post by Captainslapper on May 5, 2019 23:56:11 GMT 1
In football terms your new best pal Phil is not rich. Nor is he a successful businessman as far as I can gather. But I’m no massively successful business man myself as you so astutely surmised so what do I know? And I don’t think I’m the one having a tantrum. So whilst you confess you aren;t actually a successful businessman, you still think the multi-millionaire who started one company that sold for £15m before starting another one that employs 500 people and now owns most of HTFC isn't a successful businessman? LOL Its like Dianne Abbott telling Jessica Alba that shes ugly. |
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Post by Captainslapper on May 6, 2019 0:01:58 GMT 1
Maybe wishful thinking but having been in business most of my working life, selling out and taking early retirement, similar to Dean Hoyle, though nowhere as financially successful, being ill and recovered, I believe after a period of time and a realisation that being retired at an early age can be somewhat boring I would hope that Dean Hoyle May return to the mighty Terriers at some point in time and to complete the dream bring a rejuvenated Wagner back, lots of entrepreneurs just can’t leave trade alone and it’s the same with football. Here’s hoping. Deans got lots of other business interests so might not have 'retired' completely. Id imagine running a football club and the scrutiny, pressure and stress that comes with it is a bit different from his other business life and takes it toll on you mentally and physically. |
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Post by portugalterrier on May 6, 2019 0:05:08 GMT 1
When you have £250 million or so in the bank, there is no pressure in commerce, the only thing you can’t control is your own and family health.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 2:11:49 GMT 1
Maybe wishful thinking but having been in business most of my working life, selling out and taking early retirement, similar to Dean Hoyle, though nowhere as financially successful, being ill and recovered, I believe after a period of time and a realisation that being retired at an early age can be somewhat boring I would hope that Dean Hoyle May return to the mighty Terriers at some point in time and to complete the dream bring a rejuvenated Wagner back, lots of entrepreneurs just can’t leave trade alone and it’s the same with football. Here’s hoping. Hope not. All sounds a bit desperate. |
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Post by wainwright on May 6, 2019 18:12:56 GMT 1
PH likes a good old rant at people he disagrees with be it on social media or in public. He got a two match stadium ban for a rant at a referee at Southport. Good luck HT fans, you are going to need it!
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