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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jul 15, 2019 22:15:10 GMT 1
Q and A's on the Examiner site already. I like the sound of Phil. The dressing room was lost by last Xmas....now we need to lose some tossers.
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Post by Town Duppy on Jul 15, 2019 22:15:23 GMT 1
Wait, wait. It can’t be all these! So far, the 7 are 9. Just goes to show that we actually know fuck-all. I’ll take the first two as granted, beyond that... 1. Zanka 2. Billing 3. Flo 4. LDP 5. Lossl 6. Smith 7. Mounié 8. Sabiri 9. Diakhaby He was singing Diakhaby's praises at the Q&A He's right.
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 15, 2019 22:15:40 GMT 1
What will you do differently if we get back to the Premier League? "We won't be signing 4 wingers and then playing a formation without wingers" Ouch Why ouch?? its a perfectly sensible thing to say. Blew our budget on players who didn't play. It was simply ridiculous every time i think about it , i get more wound up.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 15, 2019 22:17:06 GMT 1
If Hamer hadnt played for 6 years who the hell decided to sign him, that is poor imo.
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Post by yappledapple on Jul 15, 2019 22:17:40 GMT 1
He said that the team spirit was back and that all the players who went to Austria were part of the team. Those that didn’t and weren’t with the team will never play again; the inference was made and we all understood who he meant but he never mentioned them by name. He said some were busy at international duty. Mounie. So he intimated he wasn't a problem. Correct; he was intimating the two currently training at Canalside not Mounie and Mbenza
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Post by royrace on Jul 15, 2019 22:21:03 GMT 1
Tbf he didn’t bad mouth them, he stated what happened. A lot of fans have hammered Jan and gone OTT. The fact that his first week in charge he had 7 handsomely paid athletes knock on his office door wanting out because the going got tough needed saying. Otherwise it makes it harder for Jan to earn the respect of the supporters who have no idea that what Jans actually dealing with is 7 over paid quims. If they fancy, they can come to Halifax and work for me on my site and I’ll show them how to battle on no matter what for a fraction of what they earn. Hey I'm not knocking him, but he definitely was less than complementary about Sabiri, without giving details, he said he won't be here much longer and the sound cut out on my feed but Izzy's freekick said he stated similar re. Billing and Zanka. All these are reactions to the player's specific actions without doubt, but I'm sure Billing, Zanka and Sabiri could feel bad-mouthed and it would be hard to argue with them. This is not a criticism of him just an observation, (I often criticised DH for letting too info into the public domain via these q and a's) as I was thoroughly impressed with PH and he echoed a lot of my thoughts, hopes and expectations. He also basically said that Hef was crocked which I thought was maybe a bit too honest. I thought he came across really well. Also there seems to be a general consensus that Wagner was firmly at fault for last season which surprised me tbh. It’s either the truth or it’s like any organisation where it’s easiest just to blame the bloke that’s no longer there! Can’t wait for the season to start!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 22:21:31 GMT 1
If Hamer hadnt played for 6 years who the hell decided to sign him, that is poor imo. He was on a free...he’s potentially a decent keeper. If Lossl had played ball with his contract, he’d have started the early season games, Hamer would have slotted in as second choice, played the occasional cup game and we’d have thought he was a bargain.
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Post by royrace on Jul 15, 2019 22:23:32 GMT 1
He said that the team spirit was back and that all the players who went to Austria were part of the team. Those that didn’t and weren’t with the team will never play again; the inference was made and we all understood who he meant but he never mentioned them by name. He said some were busy at international duty. Mounie. So he intimated he wasn't a problem. He also initially forgot Mounie when listing the strikers, out of sight out of mind or more to it. Pretty ambivalent when it comes to Mounie personally, wouldn’t be too bothered either way.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jul 15, 2019 22:24:32 GMT 1
Some seriously cringeworthy questions. Has anyone asked about the Canalside plans and its completion? Would you expect anything more from Town fans?
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Post by Town Duppy on Jul 15, 2019 22:25:13 GMT 1
Mentioned that he'd sold £2m worth of shares in Southport for £100 to enable him to buy Huddersfield. Contrary to certain people's beliefs he clearly has a "pot to piss in". How in the name of Christ can there be £2m worth of shares in Southport FC? There isn't, there's £100 worth. I'll tell you later if it was worth it.
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Post by space hardware on Jul 15, 2019 22:30:57 GMT 1
How in the name of Christ can there be £2m worth of shares in Southport FC? There isn't, there's £100 worth. I'll tell you later if it was worth it. 😂
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Post by yappledapple on Jul 15, 2019 22:33:12 GMT 1
Colin Bell was always Jan’s first choice for his assistant but couldn’t get him initially because of his job with the Ireland Women’s FA. Andreas Winkler just didn’t work out - PH asked Jan if he was happy with the situation before Jan went on his holiday. Jan rang PH up half way through his holiday and said he wanted to change. PH said in football sometimes things just don’t work out and this was one of them. Winkler went and luckily Colin Bell accepted this time.
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Post by artysid on Jul 15, 2019 22:33:38 GMT 1
What will you do differently if we get back to the Premier League? "We won't be signing 4 wingers and then playing a formation without wingers" Ouch That is literally the $100million question that only Wagner can answer
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jul 15, 2019 22:34:53 GMT 1
Mentioned that he'd sold £2m worth of shares in Southport for £100 to enable him to buy Huddersfield. I'd call into serious question the factual correctness of that statement. Or in layman's terms, he's talking shit in my humble opinion.
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Post by blanquiazules on Jul 15, 2019 22:36:17 GMT 1
Surely we must be getting another left back in regardless of outgoings?? Fair enough on other positions, much as there are several players still in the squad that most of us would want shut of. Kongolo will be the starting left back. The backup player pushing is Jaden Brown. .the young developing player is Ben Jackson Makes sense. I'm probably just going to have to get over my disbelief of Town playing a Championship season with an £18m fullback!
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Post by royrace on Jul 15, 2019 22:37:46 GMT 1
If Hamer hadnt played for 6 years who the hell decided to sign him, that is poor imo. He was on a free...he’s potentially a decent keeper. If Lossl had played ball with his contract, he’d have started the early season games, Hamer would have slotted in as second choice, played the occasional cup game and we’d have thought he was a bargain. If he never played for the first team we may have felt he was a bargain, as said, terrible signing and awful scouting and due diligence. I think Phil was being kind, he’s clearly a good lad and isn’t shit on purpose but no way good enough to be at a premier league club and shouldn’t have been put in that position.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 15, 2019 22:38:52 GMT 1
Mentioned that he'd sold £2m worth of shares in Southport for £100 to enable him to buy Huddersfield. I'd call into serious question the factual correctness of that statement. Or in layman's terms, he's talking shit in my humble opinion. Backed up by what exactly?
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jul 15, 2019 22:39:33 GMT 1
This guy can talk the talk, there's no question of that, but I want to see some tangible evidence of what this guy is/can offer us before I devote to him as many of you so readily have.
And by that I don't mean just on a financial basis. His unfulfilled promises at Southport aren't forgotten about for me.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jul 15, 2019 22:41:27 GMT 1
I'd call into serious question the factual correctness of that statement. Or in layman's terms, he's talking shit in my humble opinion. Backed up by what exactly? Nothing really, just my gut instinct. Time will tell I guess.
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Post by Tiro on Jul 15, 2019 22:44:20 GMT 1
I'd call into serious question the factual correctness of that statement. Or in layman's terms, he's talking shit in my humble opinion. Backed up by what exactly? Probably the Southport perspective. And the reports that he purchased his stake in the club for £125,000 (that’s some increase in value). But that’s as little or as much as I know. And I don’t really care now as long as he does the business here. I’m prepared to back him before I take judgement. Edit: orrrrr.....’gut instinct’ 😆
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jul 15, 2019 22:44:33 GMT 1
Wonder who the 'Magnificent seven' were? Billing, Zanka, Sabiri, Lossl? Who were the other 3 who seem to have redeemed themselves? + Art... 😉
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Post by deadleg on Jul 15, 2019 22:53:53 GMT 1
Also there seems to be a general consensus that Wagner was firmly at fault for last season which surprised me tbh. It’s either the truth or it’s like any organisation where it’s easiest just to blame the bloke that’s no longer there! It'd be easier still to blame the guy who's also no longer here but half the vocal supporters had already decided was mostly to blame so I imagine what he's implying is likely to be closer to the truth. But I doubt too many will be willing to admit that their witch-hunt against Rebbe was based on little more than their own preconceptions of what they perceive his role to be and an unwillingness to accept that David Wagner was a human being capable of making mistakes like anyone else. If Bacuna was really the only 'Rebbe signing' I reckon that must stick in their craws a bit.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jul 15, 2019 22:58:03 GMT 1
Hey I'm not knocking him, but he definitely was less than complementary about Sabiri, without giving details, he said he won't be here much longer and the sound cut out on my feed but Izzy's freekick said he stated similar re. Billing and Zanka. All these are reactions to the player's specific actions without doubt, but I'm sure Billing, Zanka and Sabiri could feel bad-mouthed and it would be hard to argue with them. This is not a criticism of him just an observation, (I often criticised DH for letting too info into the public domain via these q and a's) as I was thoroughly impressed with PH and he echoed a lot of my thoughts, hopes and expectations. He also basically said that Hef was crocked which I thought was maybe a bit too honest. I thought he came across really well. Also there seems to be a general consensus that Wagner was firmly at fault for last season which surprised me tbh. It’s either the truth or it’s like any organisation where it’s easiest just to blame the bloke that’s no longer there! Can’t wait for the season to start! Its what i heard from a few sources.
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Jul 15, 2019 23:12:08 GMT 1
Backed up by what exactly? Probably the Southport perspective. And the reports that he purchased his stake in the club for £125,000 (that’s some increase in value). But that’s as little or as much as I know. And I don’t really care now as long as he does the business here. I’m prepared to back him before I take judgement. Edit: orrrrr.....’gut instinct’ 😆 Didn't he effectively fund a new stand or similar out of his own pocket? That would have increased the balance sheet value of the club significantly and is probably where he gets the £2m figure from.
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Post by londonterrier23 on Jul 15, 2019 23:21:59 GMT 1
I dont buy a lot of these narratives.
I don’t know how we have have spent up. In fact
I don’t think Wagner is the guy to blame for buying loads of wingers and not playing them. We never had the full backs or the wide midfielders for the premier league. And that became very evident year 1. He started to change that formation in the first season not the second season. So to act like DW was responsible for bringing in AD and IM and RS then decided not to play them doesn’t add up.
Also feel that the Danish interviews and then bashing these players to the fans feels a little convenient as well. Feels a tad like it is crowd pleasing and a way to appeal to the lowest common denominators.
Just my opinion.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 23:26:30 GMT 1
Not sure why people bother going to a q&a, or even reading anything to do with it, if they're not going to believe anything that's said
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Post by impact on Jul 15, 2019 23:28:18 GMT 1
Zanka isn't going to play again, and Jaden Brown isn't ready to step straight up to championship football. Duahaney looked a long way off as well. So we have:
Flo, Bockhorn Schindler, Elphick, Stankovic Kongolo
We are 2 defenders lift right now.
If it really is 1 in 1 out, we're in a bit of trouble.
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Jul 15, 2019 23:31:17 GMT 1
Season 1 we spent roughly £50m on transfer fees inc the jan window with £11m on Pritchard included and our wage bill was around the £62m so that’s pretty much season 1 money accounted for, wage bill went up in season 2, sold Ince for £10m but then bought Kongolo, Diakhaby, sobhi, made lossl and flo permanent etc so that will pretty much account for season 2, it’s not a case of penny pinching we are just living to our means.
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Jul 15, 2019 23:34:01 GMT 1
Who says they have redeemed themselves? Think; Depoitre, Durm, Williams, Puncheon all let go.... Flo might have redeemed himself? Think you could be right, Depoitre & Williams never used, (Williams supposedly not fit) Puncheon not a happy chappy, Durm maybe that;s why he didn't go to Schalke. we maybe wrong with Flo & Lossl 99% certain Lössl is one of them. I heard from someone who knows him back in Feb that he couldn't stand the new manager and he wasn't alone amongst the playing staff. Took it with a pinch of salt at the time but it's sounding like it was pretty much correct.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 15, 2019 23:46:55 GMT 1
Mentioned that he'd sold £2m worth of shares in Southport for £100 to enable him to buy Huddersfield. I'd call into serious question the factual correctness of that statement. Or in layman's terms, he's talking shit in my humble opinion. He gave a far more detailed explanation for that along the lines of a fellow director (Lyle) had agreed to buy his shares but they'd agreed that he would pay Hodgkinson over three years, but for that to happen the EFL said that if Southport got promoted to the EFL within the three years they'd not be able to take up their place. The National League weren't happy with this so in the end he agreed to more or less give his share away in Southport so he could buy us.
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