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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 23:48:54 GMT 1
I don't think he has a very high opinion of Wagner going by some of his comments. Not many at the club do by the sound of it. Undid all his good work last season. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 15, 2019 23:55:27 GMT 1
Season 1 we spent roughly £50m on transfer fees inc the jan window with £11m on Pritchard included and our wage bill was around the £62m so that’s pretty much season 1 money accounted for, wage bill went up in season 2, sold Ince for £10m but then bought Kongolo, Diakhaby, sobhi, made lossl and flo permanent etc so that will pretty much account for season 2, it’s not a case of penny pinching we are just living to our means. And thats not even mentioning other expenses like agents fees, bonuses for staying up. Thought it was all generally positive and Phil comes across very well IMO. The big disappointing thing that came out was that our parachute money is already effectively spent, presumably on our wage obligations, Mbenza fee etc. But as he pointed out, we do go into this season with a squad worth many times more than the one that took us up. |
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Post by TerrierSince89 on Jul 15, 2019 23:59:48 GMT 1
Season 1 we spent roughly £50m on transfer fees inc the jan window with £11m on Pritchard included and our wage bill was around the £62m so that’s pretty much season 1 money accounted for, wage bill went up in season 2, sold Ince for £10m but then bought Kongolo, Diakhaby, sobhi, made lossl and flo permanent etc so that will pretty much account for season 2, it’s not a case of penny pinching we are just living to our means. And thats not even mentioning other expenses like agents fees, bonuses for staying up. Thought it was all generally positive and Phil comes across very well IMO. The big disappointing thing that came out was that our parachute money is already effectively spent, presumably on our wage obligations, Mbenza fee etc. But as he pointed out, we do go into this season with a squad worth many times more than the one that took us up. That’s basically it in a nutshell, when you take a step back and look the money is there to be accounted for and we are using the parachute payment for what it is intended, to off set costs due to drop in income to survive ok following relegation, whereas a lot of other clubs use it it make an attempted return but without the parachute payment our additional revenue as a club at this level is once again going to be small in comparison to our current outgoings so we need to be sensible to avoid being the next Sunderland/Bolton etc. |
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Post by Melc on Jul 16, 2019 0:15:42 GMT 1
Season 1 we spent roughly £50m on transfer fees inc the jan window with £11m on Pritchard included and our wage bill was around the £62m so that’s pretty much season 1 money accounted for, wage bill went up in season 2, sold Ince for £10m but then bought Kongolo, Diakhaby, sobhi, made lossl and flo permanent etc so that will pretty much account for season 2, it’s not a case of penny pinching we are just living to our means. And thats not even mentioning other expenses like agents fees, bonuses for staying up. Thought it was all generally positive and Phil comes across very well IMO. The big disappointing thing that came out was that our parachute money is already effectively spent, presumably on our wage obligations, Mbenza fee etc. But as he pointed out, we do go into this season with a squad worth many times more than the one that took us up. AT the minute we certainly have a high value squad on paper. From Examiner... 19:24 Ambition. The bar has been set hi so what is success? Jan and I have set targets but they will stay between us. It’s about moving forward. We have gone down hill since Tottenham at home in the first PL season - and we are in a habit of losing. Now we have to get out of that habit and we haven’t lost while I’ve been chairman We want to win as many as we can and see where it takes us. Our playing budget is more than double what it was last time we were in the Championship. I feel very positive and we have a team spirit again with players who want to be part of a team and prove to the fans they are good enough. We have a squad with a value of £120m They are determined to prove they are good enough and they have my backing |
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Post by specialun on Jul 16, 2019 0:41:58 GMT 1
Did he explain how as owner of a law firm he didn’t know the football betting as a participant in the game (owner / agent)?
He surely can’t be serious re not signing anyone else without others leaving?
Bockhorn was playing teams the equivalent of Farsley Celtic last season (other teams higher) and Jaden Brown didn’t get into the Exeter team - we cant go into the season with that as our back up?!
We must reinforce with a left sided defender surely?
I’m also confused - Wagner player Kongolo more at left back than Siewert who used him more at centre half. Siewart / PH have a chat and now both see Kongolo as left back?! I get the squad balance is different but does Jan really see it like this....or does he see it like this when our alternative couldn’t get in the Exeter team?
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jul 16, 2019 0:48:42 GMT 1
Did he explain how as owner of a law firm he didn’t know the football betting as a participant in the game (owner / agent)? He surely can’t be serious re not signing anyone else without others leaving? Bockhorn was playing teams the equivalent of Farsley Celtic last season (other teams higher) and Jaden Brown didn’t get into the Exeter team - we cant go into the season with that as our back up?! We must reinforce with a left sided defender surely? I’m also confused - Wagner player Kongolo more at left back than Siewert who used him more at centre half. Siewart / PH have a chat and now both see Kongolo as left back?! I get the squad balance is different but does Jan really see it like this....or does he see it like this when our alternative couldn’t get in the Exeter team? It's not too difficult to understand is it. Zanka wanted out so he didn't figure, Kongolo takes that slot at CB. |
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Post by specialun on Jul 16, 2019 1:06:25 GMT 1
Did he explain how as owner of a law firm he didn’t know the football betting as a participant in the game (owner / agent)? He surely can’t be serious re not signing anyone else without others leaving? Bockhorn was playing teams the equivalent of Farsley Celtic last season (other teams higher) and Jaden Brown didn’t get into the Exeter team - we cant go into the season with that as our back up?! We must reinforce with a left sided defender surely? I’m also confused - Wagner player Kongolo more at left back than Siewert who used him more at centre half. Siewart / PH have a chat and now both see Kongolo as left back?! I get the squad balance is different but does Jan really see it like this....or does he see it like this when our alternative couldn’t get in the Exeter team? It's not too difficult to understand is it. Zanka wanted out so he didn't figure, Kongolo takes that slot at CB. ....And not Stankovic who was available and is now seen as a centre half rather than Kongolo who is seen as a left back...? As I put in my original post I’m fully aware the make up of the squad then and now has changed So when Schindler or Elphick get injured etc were saying Stankovic starts at centre half next match? |
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Post by bluestripe on Jul 16, 2019 1:14:26 GMT 1
Think you could be right, Depoitre & Williams never used, (Williams supposedly not fit) Puncheon not a happy chappy, Durm maybe that;s why he didn't go to Schalke. we maybe wrong with Flo & Lossl 99% certain Lössl is one of them. I heard from someone who knows him back in Feb that he couldn't stand the new manager and he wasn't alone amongst the playing staff. Took it with a pinch of salt at the time but it's sounding like it was pretty much correct. Why would Lössl ask to leave if his contract was up at the end of the season. Same goes for Puncheon. |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 16, 2019 2:38:54 GMT 1
It's not too difficult to understand is it. Zanka wanted out so he didn't figure, Kongolo takes that slot at CB. ....And not Stankovic who was available and is now seen as a centre half rather than Kongolo who is seen as a left back...? As I put in my original post I’m fully aware the make up of the squad then and now has changed So when Schindler or Elphick get injured etc were saying Stankovic starts at centre half next match? We had Lowe and Durm available to play left back last season, we don't have that option going forward, also they probably expected Kongolo to be snapped up and our CB target was a free agent thus needed to targetted quicker and consequently Kongolo has now become 1st choice LB by default if you like - if he is sold then maybe our LB replacement is under contract so needs to be bidded for. Jaden Brown looked ok in Austria - loan players not getting game time can be misleading see Sean Morrison in his first Town spell. If Schindler or Elphick can't play then it will be Jan's choice to either move Kongolo to CB and play Brown as LB or bring Stankovic in as direct cover. Having the option is surely a good thing. Duhaney, Rowe and Daly made their debuts in the PL, so we shouldn't be afraid of getting odd games from the cover/developing players at Championship level. PH did say he expects a 3 window time period to get Siewert's ideal squad in place (we are about half way through the first) - In the meantime we are in transition, patching up the squad, if you like, until it is shaped into Jan's most desirable one. |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 16, 2019 2:47:31 GMT 1
99% certain Lössl is one of them. I heard from someone who knows him back in Feb that he couldn't stand the new manager and he wasn't alone amongst the playing staff. Took it with a pinch of salt at the time but it's sounding like it was pretty much correct. Why would Lössl ask to leave if his contract was up at the end of the season. Same goes for Puncheon. I'm sure met individually with every squad member and in these talks those wishing to leave told JS just that - I'm sure that will include the out of contract Williams and Lossl, Lowe and Durm probably stated their intent to return home and I suspect that the 3 others were Sabiri, Zanka and Billing. |
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Post by townohiofan on Jul 16, 2019 3:44:16 GMT 1
....And not Stankovic who was available and is now seen as a centre half rather than Kongolo who is seen as a left back...? As I put in my original post I’m fully aware the make up of the squad then and now has changed So when Schindler or Elphick get injured etc were saying Stankovic starts at centre half next match? We had Lowe and Durm available to play left back last season, we don't have that option going forward, also they probably expected Kongolo to be snapped up and our CB target was a free agent thus needed to targetted quicker and consequently Kongolo has now become 1st choice LB by default if you like - if he is sold then maybe our LB replacement is under contract so needs to be bidded for. Jaden Brown looked ok in Austria - loan players not getting game time can be misleading see Sean Morrison in his first Town spell. If Schindler or Elphick can't play then it will be Jan's choice to either move Kongolo to CB and play Brown as LB or bring Stankovic in as direct cover. Having the option is surely a good thing. Duhaney, Rowe and Daly made their debuts in the PL, so we shouldn't be afraid of getting odd games from the cover/developing players at Championship level. PH did say he expects a 3 window time period to get Siewert's ideal squad in place (we are about half way through the first) - In the meantime we are in transition, patching up the squad, if you like, until it is shaped into Jan's most desirable one. I think it was stated that Bockhorn can play LB too. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 6:24:38 GMT 1
Mentioned that he'd sold £2m worth of shares in Southport for £100 to enable him to buy Huddersfield. Contrary to certain people's beliefs he clearly has a "pot to piss in". How in the name of Christ can there be £2m worth of shares in Southport FC? There’s actually shares with a nominal value of over £2.5m in Southport FC. beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/01486711/filing-history/MzIzODI2NTIwMmFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0One thing that intrigues me is it shows Phil disposed of £750k worth of shares in April (see shareholding 100) to leave him with none. That was BEFORE Town getting their EFL share back so any negotiations related don’t contribute to the timeline of the story told about the duration of time it took to complete the takeover. The implication from Phil was it “effectively took one day” to get confirmation about passing the directors and owners test, and subsequent delay was due to negotiating a 3 year share disposal, having the discussion about Southport not being allowed to be promoted and then negotiating effectively giving his shares away, Unless, the confirmation statement dated 13th of June has simply not caught up with reality yet,, and he’s talking about another shareholding he’s since dispersed of... because look at shareholding 8...1.4m shares owned by Astute Business Management Consultants Ltd... ...and we can all easily find out who owns Astute Business Management Consultants Ltd. 🤭😱🤔 As things stands today according to the docs available at Companies House, Phil Hodgkinson DOES retain a significant shareholding in Southport FC via a holding company. Will be interesting to see if there’s a further confirmation statement that has been filed and gets registered in the coming few weeks...these things obviously take time to catch up, as he is also not currently documented as having any shareholding in Hudds Town. |
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Post by ben1987 on Jul 16, 2019 6:39:53 GMT 1
How in the name of Christ can there be £2m worth of shares in Southport FC? There’s actually shares with a nominal value of over £2.5m in Southport FC. beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/01486711/filing-history/MzIzODI2NTIwMmFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0One thing that intrigues me is it shows Phil disposed of £750k worth of shares in April (see shareholding 100) to leave him with none. That was BEFORE Town getting their EFL share back so any negotiations related don’t contribute to the timeline of the story told about the duration of time it took to complete the takeover. The implication from Phil was it “effectively took one day” to get confirmation about passing the directors and owners test, and subsequent delay was due to negotiating a 3 year share disposal, having the discussion about Southport not being allowed to be promoted and then negotiating effectively giving his shares away, Unless, the confirmation statement dated 13th of June has simply not caught up with reality yet,, and he’s talking about another shareholding he’s since dispersed of... because look at shareholding 8...1.4m shares owned by Astute Business Management Consultants Ltd... ...and we can all easily find out who owns Astute Business Management Consultants Ltd. 🤭😱🤔 As things stands today according to the docs available at Companies House, Phil Hodgkinson DOES retain a significant shareholding in Southport FC via a holding company. Will be interesting to see if there’s a further confirmation statement that has been filed and gets registered in the coming few weeks...these things obviously take time to catch up, as he is also not currently documented as having any shareholding in Hudds Town. Cheers for that XXXXX. You’ve had more come backs than Frank Sinatra. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jul 16, 2019 7:21:19 GMT 1
It's not too difficult to understand is it. Zanka wanted out so he didn't figure, Kongolo takes that slot at CB. ....And not Stankovic who was available and is now seen as a centre half rather than Kongolo who is seen as a left back...? As I put in my original post I’m fully aware the make up of the squad then and now has changed So when Schindler or Elphick get injured etc were saying Stankovic starts at centre half next match? Don’t know where you live specialun but couldn’t you have got down to the cinema last night and asked the questions you wanted? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 7:30:09 GMT 1
Did he explain how as owner of a law firm he didn’t know the football betting as a participant in the game (owner / agent)? He surely can’t be serious re not signing anyone else without others leaving? Bockhorn was playing teams the equivalent of Farsley Celtic last season (other teams higher) and Jaden Brown didn’t get into the Exeter team - we cant go into the season with that as our back up?! We must reinforce with a left sided defender surely? I’m also confused - Wagner player Kongolo more at left back than Siewert who used him more at centre half. Siewart / PH have a chat and now both see Kongolo as left back?! I get the squad balance is different but does Jan really see it like this....or does he see it like this when our alternative couldn’t get in the Exeter team? Yes, F.A. changed the rules on betting slightly and he didn't realise. They don't notify you, they include it in a 900 page handbook was the excuse given which to be honest sounds plausible. We don't need to buy now unless we sell first, the squad is effectively full. We have two left backs, an option in bockhorn, and another one looking promising coming through the ranks. The fact Brown didn't play for Exeter is irrelevant to his ability. Bockhorn we haven't even seen play - the manager has and clearly thinks he's suited to the English game. Why are they written off already? |
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 16, 2019 7:41:48 GMT 1
If Hamer hadnt played for 6 years who the hell decided to sign him, that is poor imo. He was on a free...he’s potentially a decent keeper. If Lossl had played ball with his contract, he’d have started the early season games, Hamer would have slotted in as second choice, played the occasional cup game and we’d have thought he was a bargain. Hamer had a really good preseason last summer and made some excellent saves in the friendlies. Wagner picked him for the start of the season because of this, but people were on his back straight away, because the beloved Lossl was dropped. The same Lossl who couldn't wait to jump ship. I think the criticism by many, really affected Hamer's confidence. I'm sure he is a decent keeper, but needs away to resurrect his career and find a bit of self belief. |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jul 16, 2019 7:43:30 GMT 1
Not sure why people bother going to a q&a, or even reading anything to do with it, if they're not going to believe anything that's said It's the ones who go but don't ask a question that wind me up. If they don't have any to ask they should ask some others that people want answering. Surely people can think of something to question or ask about |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 7:48:24 GMT 1
Not sure why people bother going to a q&a, or even reading anything to do with it, if they're not going to believe anything that's said It's the ones who go but don't ask a question that wind me up. If they don't have any to ask they should ask some others that people want answering. Surely people can think of something to question or ask about If we'd all asked a question we'd still be there! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 7:54:21 GMT 1
Not sure why people bother going to a q&a, or even reading anything to do with it, if they're not going to believe anything that's said It's the ones who go but don't ask a question that wind me up. If they don't have any to ask they should ask some others that people want answering. Surely people can think of something to question or ask about Probably worried about looking stupid, it's a shame some others weren't, I mean someone even asked when we will have a new kit. Personally intended to ask about Winkler but within five minutes of being sat there I'd completely drawn a blank on what his name was. |
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Post by rastrick32 on Jul 16, 2019 7:55:00 GMT 1
Not sure why people bother going to a q&a, or even reading anything to do with it, if they're not going to believe anything that's said It's the ones who go but don't ask a question that wind me up. If they don't have any to ask they should ask some others that people want answering. Surely people can think of something to question or ask about I like the idea of people just asking strange, leftfield questions. What is the state capital of Iowa? Who invented the hosepipe? Who is the best looking poster on DATM? |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 16, 2019 7:57:49 GMT 1
Did we ask when new cards get sent out ?
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 16, 2019 8:02:04 GMT 1
He was on a free...he’s potentially a decent keeper. If Lossl had played ball with his contract, he’d have started the early season games, Hamer would have slotted in as second choice, played the occasional cup game and we’d have thought he was a bargain. Hamer had a really good preseason last summer and made some excellent saves in the friendlies. Wagner picked him for the start of the season because of this, but people were on his back straight away, because the beloved Lossl was dropped. The same Lossl who couldn't wait to jump ship. I think the criticism by many, really affected Hamer's confidence. I'm sure he is a decent keeper, but needs away to resurrect his career and find a bit of self belief. People weren't on his back because lossl was dropped . People were on his back because we were playing a keeper who was worse than Tim Clarke in the premier league and it was utterly embarrassing |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 8:02:32 GMT 1
I like how he seemed to be taking credit for the white seats. The club/KSDL have had these sorted since before last Christmas!
Other than that, a very impressive display and I feel very positive about the upcoming season.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 16, 2019 8:07:15 GMT 1
It's the ones who go but don't ask a question that wind me up. If they don't have any to ask they should ask some others that people want answering. Surely people can think of something to question or ask about I like the idea of people just asking strange, leftfield questions. What is the state capital of Iowa? Who invented the hosepipe? Who is the best looking poster on DATM? Des Moines Jan Van Der Heyden 1 chips 2 ben1987 3 otium 4 longdistancerunner Hope this helps |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 16, 2019 8:12:37 GMT 1
There’s actually shares with a nominal value of over £2.5m in Southport FC. beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/01486711/filing-history/MzIzODI2NTIwMmFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0One thing that intrigues me is it shows Phil disposed of £750k worth of shares in April (see shareholding 100) to leave him with none. That was BEFORE Town getting their EFL share back so any negotiations related don’t contribute to the timeline of the story told about the duration of time it took to complete the takeover. The implication from Phil was it “effectively took one day” to get confirmation about passing the directors and owners test, and subsequent delay was due to negotiating a 3 year share disposal, having the discussion about Southport not being allowed to be promoted and then negotiating effectively giving his shares away, Unless, the confirmation statement dated 13th of June has simply not caught up with reality yet,, and he’s talking about another shareholding he’s since dispersed of... because look at shareholding 8...1.4m shares owned by Astute Business Management Consultants Ltd... ...and we can all easily find out who owns Astute Business Management Consultants Ltd. 🤭😱🤔 As things stands today according to the docs available at Companies House, Phil Hodgkinson DOES retain a significant shareholding in Southport FC via a holding company. Will be interesting to see if there’s a further confirmation statement that has been filed and gets registered in the coming few weeks...these things obviously take time to catch up, as he is also not currently documented as having any shareholding in Hudds Town. Cheers for that Nigel. You’ve had more come backs than Frank Sinatra. I wonder if Frank retired every time he got called Frank . "Hey Frank , loved the gig tonight " "That's it I'm off .. see you in two days " Two days later "Live at the Las Vegas bowl. For one night only (or until someone calls him Frank)" "Ladies and gentlemen Mr HANK SINITA " |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 8:15:04 GMT 1
I like how he seemed to be taking credit for the white seats. The club/KSDL have had these sorted since before last Christmas! Other than that, a very impressive display and I feel very positive about the upcoming season. He does seem more likely to just throw out bullshit than Hoyle, and doesn’t seem aware of some basic aspects of the business of football. For now it’s a wait and see, he’s on a reasonably solid 6 out of 10 impression for me at the moment...could go either way! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 8:22:24 GMT 1
Cheers for that Nigel. You’ve had more come backs than Frank Sinatra. I wonder if Frank retired every time he got called Frank . "Hey Frank , loved the gig tonight " "That's it I'm off .. see you in two days " Two days later "Live at the Las Vegas bowl. For one night only (or until someone calls him Frank)" "Ladies and gentlemen Mr HANK SINITA " Don’t you think it would be a bit strange If you were involved in a conversation with Cliff Richard and you called him Harry? It all seems very odd that some anonymous people who have no idea who I am insist on continuously referring to me by a name I’ve not ever linked with my existence on here. Bit stalkerish to be honest Francis. |
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Post by rastrick32 on Jul 16, 2019 8:23:10 GMT 1
What is Marc Almond's shoe size?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 8:25:20 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2019 8:32:00 GMT 1
He was on a free...he’s potentially a decent keeper. If Lossl had played ball with his contract, he’d have started the early season games, Hamer would have slotted in as second choice, played the occasional cup game and we’d have thought he was a bargain. Hamer had a really good preseason last summer and made some excellent saves in the friendlies. Wagner picked him for the start of the season because of this, but people were on his back straight away, because the beloved Lossl was dropped. The same Lossl who couldn't wait to jump ship. I think the criticism by many, really affected Hamer's confidence. I'm sure he is a decent keeper, but needs away to resurrect his career and find a bit of self belief. Disagree. Hamer didn’t stand outlast summer. Lossl was not given game time in pre season either because of his contractual situation, OR because he’d had a late start due to the World Cup. It was obvious in the first couple of games of competitive football that Hamer was out of his depth at that level, where we knew Lossl wasn’t/isn’t. |
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