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Post by Melc on Jul 4, 2019 0:06:46 GMT 1
This time last year we were looking forward to a second PL season. Now it feels like we are preparing for, at best, a season of treading water and hoping the sharks aren't circling under us. Depressing. Look on the positive side at the minute we still have the squad that failed in the premiership last season, and sticking to our guns regarding the fees what we want for any want away players. You never know we just might still start the championship with a very good squad for this level. |
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Post by space hardware on Jul 4, 2019 0:19:27 GMT 1
This time last year we were looking forward to a second PL season. Now it feels like we are preparing for, at best, a season of treading water and hoping the sharks aren't circling under us. Depressing. Look on the positive side at the minute we still have the squad that failed in the premiership last season, and sticking to our guns regarding the fees what we want for any want away players. You never know we just might still start the championship with a very good squad for this level. I personally don't really see many positives to the situation right now. I appreciate what you are saying though, it can be looked at in several ways. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 0:53:14 GMT 1
I think Phil came across well in both interviews, now comes the important part of getting some good deals (in and out) over the line for the club.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 4, 2019 6:52:41 GMT 1
Nice training tee shirt.
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 4, 2019 7:22:10 GMT 1
New chairman, different style. I like the cut of his jib as well. |
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Post by townrwe on Jul 4, 2019 7:41:36 GMT 1
Seems abit more authoritarian than deano, which I dont think is a bad thing as long as he can carry the club with him, I can see him driving progress rather than leaving it to individuals to get on with themselves, and more accountability.
But genuinely comes across as caring and passionate, which goes a long way in any organisation.
Average is not acceptable anymore, winning football games is the most important aspect for him.
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Post by townatheart on Jul 4, 2019 7:46:18 GMT 1
Seems abit more authoritarian than deano, which I dont think is a bad thing as long as he can carry the club with him, I can see him driving progress rather than leaving it to individuals to get on with themselves, and more accountability. But genuinely comes across as caring and passionate, which goes a long way in any organisation. Average is not acceptable anymore, winning football games is the most important aspect for him. IMO he has definitely got the "talk the talk" aspect spot on, so from a happy clapper standpoint looking very good. From the misery guts angle (yes there are a few of you out there), would agree next phase needs to be "walk the walk" and get some concrete actions taken/completed over the next month. For me, completing the takeover was the next big critical step, that is done, now for a good quality goalkeeper please  |
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Post by townrwe on Jul 4, 2019 9:03:39 GMT 1
Seems abit more authoritarian than deano, which I dont think is a bad thing as long as he can carry the club with him, I can see him driving progress rather than leaving it to individuals to get on with themselves, and more accountability. But genuinely comes across as caring and passionate, which goes a long way in any organisation. Average is not acceptable anymore, winning football games is the most important aspect for him. IMO he has definitely got the "talk the talk" aspect spot on, so from a happy clapper standpoint looking very good. From the misery guts angle (yes there are a few of you out there), would agree next phase needs to be "walk the walk" and get some concrete actions taken/completed over the next month. For me, completing the takeover was the next big critical step, that is done, now for a good quality goalkeeper please It's a good start, but your right. Talking a good game only convinces people initially. I hope he is sat in the chairmans office deciding on what he wants his legacy to be... It could be premier league football consistently, having 5 players from the academy in the first 11, going a step further on the training facilities and making them world class, getting the ground into town ownership or something completely different and revolutionary. |
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Post by bigtruck on Jul 4, 2019 9:29:10 GMT 1
IMO he has definitely got the "talk the talk" aspect spot on, so from a happy clapper standpoint looking very good. From the misery guts angle (yes there are a few of you out there), would agree next phase needs to be "walk the walk" and get some concrete actions taken/completed over the next month. For me, completing the takeover was the next big critical step, that is done, now for a good quality goalkeeper please It's a good start, but your right. Talking a good game only convinces people initially. I hope he is sat in the chairmans office deciding on what he wants his legacy to be... It could be premier league football consistently, having 5 players from the academy in the first 11, going a step further on the training facilities and making them world class, getting the ground into town ownership or something completely different and revolutionary. Or it could be getting the players to claim back their PPI...  I know i'm probably being a tad unfair but i don't overly trust him. Can't put my finger on it totally why. Just seems a lot of bluster and playing the big I am. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 9:34:11 GMT 1
Was impressed watching both interviews but like others say, he has to Walk to Walk now. I do agree with what he says about transfers and that it will probably take a couple of windows before we get a squad which Jan is happy with and get rid of the players who don't want to be here. Just hope Jan is still here this time next year, sounds like he has the confidence of Phil but if we are in the bottom 3 by Xmas, will be a tough decision to be made.
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Post by crux on Jul 4, 2019 10:08:18 GMT 1
Was impressed watching both interviews but like others say, he has to Walk to Walk now. I do agree with what he says about transfers and that it will probably take a couple of windows before we get a squad which Jan is happy with and get rid of the players who don't want to be here. Just hope Jan is still here this time next year, sounds like he has the confidence of Phil but if we are in the bottom 3 by Xmas, will be a tough decision to be made. If that happens, it will be a simple decision to make! Whilst I'm not expecting promotion at the end of the season, theoretically this will be the 'easiest' Championship for a while. A number of the 'bigger' clubs have new managers (Forrest, WBA, Derby, Swansea plus Fulham where he's had limited games) and a few others are currently operating on some sort of transfer embargo/limits due to FFP (Sheff Wed plus others). I'd expect Cardiff, Bristol and Leeds (unfortunately) to be the three to beat - if we finish above all of them then we probably will be promoted. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 4, 2019 10:12:08 GMT 1
Just watched the interview, fairly bog standard stuff, a lot of clichés. Got to prove himself. He says he doesn't do average, aside from Southport who were hardly tearing up the non league scene.
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Post by runner76 on Jul 4, 2019 10:21:39 GMT 1
To be fair, it was pretty much the perfect interview!!! Couldn’t possibly have talked the talk anymore than that, and if he doesn’t deliver, it’s a bloody great height to fall from!
Reading between the lines he has basically said winning games is the only target and it might be three windows before the squad is complete. So promotion, play offs or a high finish are not committed to.
Comes across really well. But without my glasses on he looked like an overweight and healthy younger gazza
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 10:46:39 GMT 1
To be fair, it was pretty much the perfect interview!!! Couldn’t possibly have talked the talk anymore than that, and if he doesn’t deliver, it’s a bloody great height to fall from! Reading between the lines he has basically said winning games is the only target and it might be three windows before the squad is complete. So promotion, play offs or a high finish are not committed to. Comes across really well. But without my glasses on he looked like an overweight and healthy younger gazza No problem with interview and his point about financially we don't have to sell unless our value is met is to be applauded. has he says we cant have a squad overloaded so if players want to go clubs pay the asking fee are the player stays.i have no doubt that there will be additions in this window but we will see who actually goes because there are three are four they definetly want out. Best of luck to phill in what is a challenging time but as I have said many times its a marathon not a sprint. utt |
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Post by htfc1908 on Jul 4, 2019 11:00:09 GMT 1
It looks to me as though Phil is going to be much more 'hands on' than Deano ever was, with him saying he's had a chat with the players etc or is that just because of no D.O.F.? As for people saying he's a bit 'full of himself' I think 90% of us on here would be bit full of ourselves if we'd just bought Town |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 11:15:01 GMT 1
IMO he has definitely got the "talk the talk" aspect spot on, so from a happy clapper standpoint looking very good. From the misery guts angle (yes there are a few of you out there), would agree next phase needs to be "walk the walk" and get some concrete actions taken/completed over the next month. For me, completing the takeover was the next big critical step, that is done, now for a good quality goalkeeper please It's a good start, but your right. Talking a good game only convinces people initially. I hope he is sat in the chairmans office deciding on what he wants his legacy to be... It could be premier league football consistently, having 5 players from the academy in the first 11, going a step further on the training facilities and making them world class, getting the ground into town ownership or something completely different and revolutionary. Does he or the club own any training facilities? |
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Post by deadleg on Jul 4, 2019 11:57:09 GMT 1
It's a good start, but your right. Talking a good game only convinces people initially. I hope he is sat in the chairmans office deciding on what he wants his legacy to be... It could be premier league football consistently, having 5 players from the academy in the first 11, going a step further on the training facilities and making them world class, getting the ground into town ownership or something completely different and revolutionary. Or it could be getting the players to claim back their PPI... I know i'm probably being a tad unfair but i don't overly trust him. Can't put my finger on it totally why. Just seems a lot of bluster and playing the big I am. I can't deny that I feel the same way, but as you say it's probably unfair at this stage. It's just a gut feeling based on how he comes across but Dean will obviously know him much better than you or I and Dean I certainly do trust. A lot of it is probably that anyone would feel a step down from Dean in terms of putting across a feeling of integrity. We've been spoiled that way in recent years. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 16:51:45 GMT 1
Or it could be getting the players to claim back their PPI... I know i'm probably being a tad unfair but i don't overly trust him. Can't put my finger on it totally why. Just seems a lot of bluster and playing the big I am. I can't deny that I feel the same way, but as you say it's probably unfair at this stage. It's just a gut feeling based on how he comes across but Dean will obviously know him much better than you or I and Dean I certainly do trust. A lot of it is probably that anyone would feel a step down from Dean in terms of putting across a feeling of integrity. We've been spoiled that way in recent years. ...especially when he’s hidden info from the story behind the delay which makes it feel a bit dodgy. I like how he’s set about an explanation for why it’s “taken so long” to complete the takeover and I like how it was his idea to give Dean a last public home game even though the deal wasn’t totally finished. But...to just sweep under the carpet that he’s had to appeal to the EFL to ensure he passes the owners and directors test despite a barring condition being in place seems a teeny bit dishonest and not entirely transparent. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 16:53:42 GMT 1
To add to the above...how come there is no mention of David Kirby becoming a director of the club??
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Post by Ross83 on Jul 4, 2019 17:08:45 GMT 1
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Post by Ox Terrier on Jul 4, 2019 17:09:22 GMT 1
I can't deny that I feel the same way, but as you say it's probably unfair at this stage. It's just a gut feeling based on how he comes across but Dean will obviously know him much better than you or I and Dean I certainly do trust. A lot of it is probably that anyone would feel a step down from Dean in terms of putting across a feeling of integrity. We've been spoiled that way in recent years. ...especially when he’s hidden info from the story behind the delay which makes it feel a bit dodgy. I like how he’s set about an explanation for why it’s “taken so long” to complete the takeover and I like how it was his idea to give Dean a last public home game even though the deal wasn’t totally finished. But...to just sweep under the carpet that he’s had to appeal to the EFL to ensure he passes the owners and directors test despite a barring condition being in place seems a teeny bit dishonest and not entirely transparent. Whilst I found the whole appeal interesting and even posted bits of the transcript last week, I don't think it would be the best time to discuss it. It's a time for positivity and gaining a good first impression. Whilst some may find the omission dishonest, I don't think it would have come across particularly interesting on film. "I appealed the qualifying condition breach by paying the £100 fee and my lawyers set about providing evidence that no bets were made that involved Southport nor any of the competitions that Southport were involved in. They all agreed and repaid me the £100 and here I am!". Just a bit, mehhhhh. Should he mention that has a history of abusing match officials too?! Let's stick to the 'good press' for now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 18:08:22 GMT 1
It looks to me as though Phil is going to be much more 'hands on' than Deano ever was, with him saying he's had a chat with the players etc or is that just because of no D.O.F.? As for people saying he's a bit 'full of himself' I think 90% of us on here would be bit full of ourselves if we'd just bought Town He is a qualified FA youth coach so perhaps he will have his track suit on? |
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Post by dalesterrier on Jul 4, 2019 18:08:22 GMT 1
To add to the above...how come there is no mention of David Kirby becoming a director of the club?? Who is David Kirby? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2019 18:10:38 GMT 1
To add to the above...how come there is no mention of David Kirby becoming a director of the club?? Who is David Kirby? He sells vacuum cleaners. |
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Post by townatheart on Jul 4, 2019 18:34:31 GMT 1
To add to the above...how come there is no mention of David Kirby becoming a director of the club?? Who is David Kirby? In Companies House records shows him added as Director yesterday. Shows occupation as Chartered Accountant, with the same correspondence address as PH's business address, so one could guess he is PH's accountant/financial advisor type. But just guessing obviously. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 2:41:43 GMT 1
...especially when he’s hidden info from the story behind the delay which makes it feel a bit dodgy. I like how he’s set about an explanation for why it’s “taken so long” to complete the takeover and I like how it was his idea to give Dean a last public home game even though the deal wasn’t totally finished. But...to just sweep under the carpet that he’s had to appeal to the EFL to ensure he passes the owners and directors test despite a barring condition being in place seems a teeny bit dishonest and not entirely transparent. Whilst I found the whole appeal interesting and even posted bits of the transcript last week, I don't think it would be the best time to discuss it. It's a time for positivity and gaining a good first impression. Whilst some may find the omission dishonest, I don't think it would have come across particularly interesting on film. "I appealed the qualifying condition breach by paying the £100 fee and my lawyers set about providing evidence that no bets were made that involved Southport nor any of the competitions that Southport were involved in. They all agreed and repaid me the £100 and here I am!". Just a bit, mehhhhh. Should he mention that has a history of abusing match officials too?! Let's stick to the 'good press' for now. Agreed. But these are the background colours to my impression of him as a person. I don’t really like him. And I don’t really like Jan, he comes across very poorly for me as a man manager. That Hodgkinson seems to like Jan and his character reinforces my personal bias to dislike the pair of them despite never having met them. And I kmow it’s none of my business but I’d quite like to know when a new director is appointed at the club, it feels like it should be a news item, so why no announcement about Kirby, I’m pretty sure every other director appointment for the last 10 years has had a few paragraphs explaining how awesome they are and what they will bring. However...I sincerely hope they are both a success! |
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Post by Ox Terrier on Jul 5, 2019 8:51:06 GMT 1
Whilst I found the whole appeal interesting and even posted bits of the transcript last week, I don't think it would be the best time to discuss it. It's a time for positivity and gaining a good first impression. Whilst some may find the omission dishonest, I don't think it would have come across particularly interesting on film. "I appealed the qualifying condition breach by paying the £100 fee and my lawyers set about providing evidence that no bets were made that involved Southport nor any of the competitions that Southport were involved in. They all agreed and repaid me the £100 and here I am!". Just a bit, mehhhhh. Should he mention that has a history of abusing match officials too?! Let's stick to the 'good press' for now. Agreed. But these are the background colours to my impression of him as a person. I don’t really like him. And I don’t really like Jan, he comes across very poorly for me as a man manager. That Hodgkinson seems to like Jan and his character reinforces my personal bias to dislike the pair of them despite never having met them. And I kmow it’s none of my business but I’d quite like to know when a new director is appointed at the club, it feels like it should be a news item, so why no announcement about Kirby, I’m pretty sure every other director appointment for the last 10 years has had a few paragraphs explaining how awesome they are and what they will bring. However...I sincerely hope they are both a success! I can honestly say I haven't watched an interview with JS since his arrival interview. I've purposely avoided them, knowing that he was 'put' in a position on a hiding to nothing. I'll be reserving judgement, although the negativity (is it a majority?) on DATM seems difficult to avoid. As for PH; I don't need him to be a clone of DH, I just want him to run the Club effectively and engage with the fanbase. I may end up hating both but I could end up thinking they're improved versions of their predecessors. Time will tell, starting now, for me. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2019 9:42:49 GMT 1
Agreed. But these are the background colours to my impression of him as a person. I don’t really like him. And I don’t really like Jan, he comes across very poorly for me as a man manager. That Hodgkinson seems to like Jan and his character reinforces my personal bias to dislike the pair of them despite never having met them. And I kmow it’s none of my business but I’d quite like to know when a new director is appointed at the club, it feels like it should be a news item, so why no announcement about Kirby, I’m pretty sure every other director appointment for the last 10 years has had a few paragraphs explaining how awesome they are and what they will bring. However...I sincerely hope they are both a success! I can honestly say I haven't watched an interview with JS since his arrival interview. I've purposely avoided them, knowing that he was 'put' in a position on a hiding to nothing. I'll be reserving judgement, although the negativity (is it a majority?) on DATM seems difficult to avoid. As for PH; I don't need him to be a clone of DH, I just want him to run the Club effectively and engage with the fanbase. I may end up hating both but I could end up thinking they're improved versions of their predecessors. Time will tell, starting now, for me. Likewise I’d had us down as a relegated team back in December and accepted the relative lack of business in the January window meant the club had decided that was ok, and we weren’t going to screw our future by trying to sign our way out of trouble. Jan was always a manager for next season, and I had no concerns at all about the results or even the performances. In fact I’m pleasantly surprised by what I have seen him try to do and seen glimpses of a system that should be entertaining to watch, and will hopefully be more productive in the Championship. I suspect we’ll score more and concede more than we had been doing under Wagner, and that will do for me. However...I just don’t like the cut of his jib. Or Hodgkinsons. But, I don’t need to. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 5, 2019 11:31:15 GMT 1
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Post by town1907 on Jul 5, 2019 11:46:49 GMT 1
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