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Post by ACW on May 28, 2019 13:26:50 GMT 1
I was at a do a couple of weeks ago and a random lad told me the exact same story All players hate JS as he’s very arrogant and many are telling their agents to get them a move And, as we all know, it's always best to trust a 'random lad'.  |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on May 28, 2019 13:28:46 GMT 1
Billing has allegedly been arrogant and conceited since the day he arrived so a bit of pot calling kettle going on.
Some of these spoilt, overpaid, arrogant footballers clearly have very brittle egos.
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Post by ACW on May 28, 2019 13:29:38 GMT 1
The interview raises some interesting points. Respect lost for him within a week because he shouted so much. When put in contrast to Wagner's overly forgiving behaviour towards bad/gutless performances, I can see why it was a shock to them all. The important bit of information that's missing is whether Siewert earned respect back towards the end of the season. I suspect he may have from a few players. The final two performances of the season suggest some of the players are still playing for him. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on May 28, 2019 13:32:05 GMT 1
If I recall rightly, Winkler is supposedly very personable, so hopefully will be a huge help in addressing this apparent gap in Siewert's qualities.
As others have said, not excusing Billing.
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Post by townrwe on May 28, 2019 13:40:26 GMT 1
Not sure I was "astonished" by this... looked pretty apparent early doors most if the squad weren't enthused by him I think it was also apparent that those playing at the end of the season were playing for him and enjoying playing... If you cant take abit of criticism, your not going to run through the wall for someone. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 13:42:43 GMT 1
What a complete moron he is.
Any club interested in signing him is surely going to read that and wonder “Is this the sort of character we want in the dressing room?”
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Post by Galpharmer on May 28, 2019 13:47:36 GMT 1
What has Billing won? Just asking like, as he's calling out the manager. Promotion from The Championship. And survived a year in the Premier League. Which is more than Jan Siewert. Billing has been a disgrace since January but this interview only reflects what a number of posters on here have said since March, with Siewert appearing arrogant and blaming players for defeats. Hardly a seasoned pro. He might as well said, Siewert isn't David Wagner. |
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Post by deadleg on May 28, 2019 13:51:44 GMT 1
If I recall rightly, Winkler is supposedly very personable, so hopefully will be a huge help in addressing this apparent gap in Siewert's qualities. As others have said, not excusing Billing. Yeah, Wagner did really well in that area having Buhler as his assistant. Solid nice guy/hard case double act. What worries me a bit is that the guy in charge is still the one people talk about first and players obviously do talk. When it's looking like we might have to sign half a squad this summer the last thing we need is word going around that the boss isn't much fun to work with and doesn't protect his players. Stuff like that could easily be the difference between someone choosing us and going elsewhere. As has been said though, some players did look like they were playing for him towards the end of the season and who knows, maybe others have warmed up to him since the period Billing is talking about. Hope so. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 14:02:21 GMT 1
Very unhelpful comments. Needs to remember who his employers are. If we still are his employers at the start of the season? In the eyes of management club and fans he has some redemption to do to earn respect . |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 28, 2019 14:05:22 GMT 1
Very unhelpful comments. Needs to remember who his employers are. The club worked really hard with him from a young age to get that lazy streak out of him which he openly admits to. I think if he'd have ended up at a club with a bigger academy he'd have fallen through the cracks. He's not only disrespecting his current manager with his latest comments but the club that kept faith in him, nurtured him & got him to the position he's in today when others maybe wouldn't have bothered & released him due to a poor, lazy attitude. |
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Post by goodbet on May 28, 2019 14:09:51 GMT 1
Some of the players should look at the video of Warnock giving it to a Town team some years ago and they would be shocked and should feel that they got off lightly.
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Post by hartyhtfc on May 28, 2019 14:12:05 GMT 1
Billing might be arrogant, but this still worries me - he isn't the only young, arrogant footballer out there, and quite often we would like some of those at the club as they can kick a ball around pretty well.
I'm hoping that those around Siewert will help calm him down in time, as well as with some recovery time for himself, so that pre-season can be a positive one
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Post by VLP Fan Club on May 28, 2019 14:12:19 GMT 1
More and more I think about it, it's a complete lack of respect for a club who have stuck by him since a young age.
Get him fucked off, arrogant wanker
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 14:12:33 GMT 1
I can't get 'old big head' out of my mind and the similarity's. Taking over from a legend and the fractured dressing room he had at Leeds. Wonder how he would have coped with Billing....
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Post by drumriggend on May 28, 2019 14:15:43 GMT 1
"The nasty man shouted at me"
Fookin soft twat..
Otium had him reyt all along..
Jog on billing..
Bury awaits🤪
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Post by kennyk2 on May 28, 2019 14:17:11 GMT 1
Well that's all clear now. We just need to get as much as we possibly can for him.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 14:17:43 GMT 1
I’m sure his agents have put him up to it also. The more he slags the club the more we’ll want him gone. Does that mean we’ll accept a lower offer than one for a model pro with his talent and potential? If so he gets more options and can probably demand higher wages.
If he wants to go he should formally request a transfer.
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Post by crux on May 28, 2019 14:22:51 GMT 1
I'd be giving Billing the maximum fine allowed for this, if its 2 weeks wages (as it used to be) I'd be giving it him every week  Wagner appeared to be a great man-manager, but in the end he failed with this set of players. Siewert was right to lay into the players, they had been awful for ages. Seeing at the club had been tracking Siewert for a while, I presume they'd checked him out properly so his style can't have come as a surprise. |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2019 14:31:14 GMT 1
Some of the players should look at the video of Warnock giving it to a Town team some years ago and they would be shocked and should feel that they got off lightly.
Kin ell fire,, Half of em may well have burst into tears after a rollocking from Warnock and Rocket Ron,,, Overpaid, Spoilt and Pathetic, With no knowledge of the real world is how I see half the players nowadays.
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Post by Galpharmer on May 28, 2019 14:52:52 GMT 1
Very unhelpful comments. Needs to remember who his employers are. The club worked really hard with him from a young age to get that lazy streak out of him which he openly admits to. I think if he'd have ended up at a club with a bigger academy he'd have fallen through the cracks. He's not only disrespecting his current manager with his latest comments but the club that kept faith in him, nurtured him & got him to the position he's in today when others maybe wouldn't have bothered & released him due to a poor, lazy attitude. Absolutely spot on. |
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Post by Galpharmer on May 28, 2019 14:53:53 GMT 1
"The nasty man shouted at me" Fookin soft twat.. Otium had him reyt all along.. Jog on billing.. Bury awaits🤪 Bury might be gone before Billing is. |
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Post by leroy212 on May 28, 2019 14:54:30 GMT 1
Shows what his attitude is like when he was sent back off loan a few years ago for been lazy
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 28, 2019 15:00:52 GMT 1
TRUTH..
we didnt look as though we were that bothered when we had chances to stay in the top division..
we looked lethargic, risk averse and at best 'hopeful' something would happen for us..
there was already blame and counter blame after each goal conceded..
we brought in players who did not look as though they had attended the pre match briefings and were confused as fuck about what was going on..
we failed badly to defend other than mooching backwards (never that far up the pitch to start with) and then standing about...
New man comes in and seemingly cant quite believe that professionals in the worlds top football league have as little personal pride and determination to stay there..?
His new way is unacceptable to some and they continue to fuck about in training and when selected leading to the new man shouting a lot at them(what the fuck else can he do)...
Blaming the players for unacceptable lack of work and determination is totally acceptable.. its not going down its how we did it...
we were in a fight that we were losing to some tune when he got here, trying to put the fight back failed because there was too little to work with..
Billing obviously has some really poor 'advisors' in his ear...another season and he wont have a foot left to shoot himself in..hope he saved some money..
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Post by royrace on May 28, 2019 15:01:04 GMT 1
Some of the players should look at the video of Warnock giving it to a Town team some years ago and they would be shocked and should feel that they got off lightly. Yet his players love him don’t they and run through brick walls, carrot and stick needed and different for different players, that’s what makes a good manager. It’s also human nature that you question where it’s coming from, the boss is the boss but you have to earn respect too if you come in as a 36 year old with zero experience managing anywhere near to the standard you walk into. Kicking arse all over the place would be a very silly place to start, probably down to a lack of experience and him feeling the need to exert his authority with certain characters, maybe no small amount of insecurity too. Whatever the reasons it doesn’t bode well imo. It wouldn’t worry me in the slightest if jan had locked horns with a few players but if it’s as widespread as is being suggested that’s a big problem. |
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on May 28, 2019 15:06:05 GMT 1
So, would you let him shag your wife
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Post by townatheart on May 28, 2019 15:11:30 GMT 1
TRUTH.. we didnt look as though we were that bothered when we had chances to stay in the top division.. we looked lethargic, risk averse and at best 'hopeful' something would happen for us.. there was already blame and counter blame after each goal conceded.. we brought in players who did not look as though they had attended the pre match briefings and were confused as fuck about what was going on.. we failed badly to defend other than mooching backwards (never that far up the pitch to start with) and then standing about... New man comes in and seemingly cant quite believe that professionals in the worlds top football league have as little personal pride and determination to stay there..? His new way is unacceptable to some and they continue to fuck about in training and when selected leading to the new man shouting a lot at them(what the fuck else can he do)... Blaming the players for unacceptable lack of work and determination is totally acceptable.. its not going down its how we did it... we were in a fight that we were losing to some tune when he got here, trying to put the fight back failed because there was too little to work with.. Billing obviously has some really poor 'advisors' in his ear...another season and he wont have a foot left to shoot himself in..hope he saved some money.. That makes more than a bit of sense, good post.   |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 28, 2019 15:12:57 GMT 1
we had a dressing room full of players that had never won anything, other than a play off.. we have some talent that needed to be allowed to play whilst the rest had to just work their arse off to get us a point in this division..
seems far too many thought they were the 'talent' and not the work horses..?
clearly some will get a rude awakening this summer.. Billing will merely ignore crap offers for him and small wages because the people in his 'ear' will tell him how much better he is than them.. The occasional good 20 minutes he has is symptomatic of the 'just doing enough' culture he has grown up in.. He will end up nowhere because he simply is not a good enough player to blag it for long..
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on May 28, 2019 15:14:18 GMT 1
I remember being told by a very reliable source that the day Billing was awarded a professional contract he went shopping at Meadowhall, taking two apprentices with him to carry his bags.
Will always be a big-head in my eyes.
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Post by rastrick32 on May 28, 2019 15:15:16 GMT 1
Some of the players should look at the video of Warnock giving it to a Town team some years ago and they would be shocked and should feel that they got off lightly.
Kin ell fire,, Half of em may well have burst into tears after a rollocking from Warnock and Rocket Ron,,, Overpaid, Spoilt and Pathetic, With no knowledge of the real world is how I see half the players nowadays.
I think Warnock gives out careful bollockings. The filmed ones at Town always ended on a positive (eat your fucking pasta etc). I also think he knows who to give both barrels and those to avoid. A skilled practitioner. |
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on May 28, 2019 15:21:01 GMT 1
Kin ell fire,, Half of em may well have burst into tears after a rollocking from Warnock and Rocket Ron,,, Overpaid, Spoilt and Pathetic, With no knowledge of the real world is how I see half the players nowadays.
I think Warnock gives out careful bollockings. The filmed ones at Town always ended on a positive (eat your fucking pasta etc). I also think he knows who to give both barrels and those to avoid. A skilled practitioner. |
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