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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 16, 2019 8:30:10 GMT 1
Trying to remain positive but can't see anything other than a defeat tonight.
There is 0 style of play and Fulham will have a field day with our lack of on-field organisation.
Jan is so focused on trying to win he loses sight of what's actually required.
Fulham 2-0 and i'm afraid it'll be curtains for Jan.
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Post by Metch on Aug 16, 2019 8:43:33 GMT 1
Trying to remain positive but can't see anything other than a defeat tonight. There is 0 style of play and Fulham will have a field day with our lack of on-field organisation. Jan is so focused on trying to win he loses sight of what's actually required. Fulham 2-0 and i'm afraid it'll be curtains for Jan. Can only agree, the iceberg will be hit tonight. Talk of bringing back VLP, Mounie and maybe throwing in Campbell for good measure, smacks of desparate measures but doesn't matter who plays if there is bo belief or plan. |
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Post by townatheart on Aug 16, 2019 8:47:20 GMT 1
Trying to remain positive but can't see anything other than a defeat tonight. There is 0 style of play and Fulham will have a field day with our lack of on-field organisation. Jan is so focused on trying to win he loses sight of what's actually required. Fulham 2-0 and i'm afraid it'll be curtains for Jan. Can only agree, the iceberg will be hit tonight. Talk of bringing back VLP, Mounie and maybe throwing in Campbell for good measure, smacks of desparate measures but doesn't matter who plays if there is bono belief or plan. Apologies for being pedantic perhaps, but IMO yes there is a plan, but 1) it is not effective 2) is it the players lack of confidence/belief in the plan that causes the problem? |
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Post by capitalterrier on Aug 16, 2019 8:53:07 GMT 1
I don't think the issue is playing 2 up front, it's the transition between midfield and attack that is non-existent (and was last year). It doesn't fit Jan's system but for me Pritchard (or maybe Kachunga?) has to play as a 10. Grant needs balls to feet. Spot on and has been blindingly obviously for about 18 months. |
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Post by townatheart on Aug 16, 2019 9:17:27 GMT 1
I don't think the issue is playing 2 up front, it's the transition between midfield and attack that is non-existent (and was last year). It doesn't fit Jan's system but for me Pritchard (or maybe Kachunga?) has to play as a 10. Grant needs balls to feet. Spot on and has been blindingly obviously for about 18 months. Would you see the 4 2 3 1 formation more suited to our squad? |
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Post by Uddersfield on Aug 16, 2019 9:36:18 GMT 1
He could pretty much lose the game an hour before kick off if his team selection is still 4-3-3.
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Post by capitalterrier on Aug 16, 2019 9:39:42 GMT 1
Spot on and has been blindingly obviously for about 18 months. Would you see the 4 2 3 1 formation more suited to our squad? Absolutely. But it's all about the transitions and our tactics so as not to have players isolated, anywhere. The ponderous play across the back four and the holding midfield has become so frustrating. Where is the urgency to get the ball to a winger/advancing full back, or to someone playing the Kasey Palmer role, before the opposition are afforded all the time in the world to reset defensively? One reason we find it so difficult to break teams down is because we give them so much time to set up before we attack. Further to this, we rarely have any attacking cohesion. Watch tonight how many times one of our players will have the ball at their feet and either have no one within 20/30 years of him and/or have no one making a forwards run to receive a pass. This is the truly frightening thing tactics wise, and we have two of the quickest players in the league! It's all about little partnerships around the pitch and link up play to threaten in attack. In theory with the players we have we should be causing all sorts of problems, which is why I think our problem is a tactical one. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 16, 2019 9:41:55 GMT 1
Would you see the 4 2 3 1 formation more suited to our squad? Absolutely. But it's all about the transitions and our tactics so as not to have players isolated, anywhere. The ponderous play across the back four and the holding midfield has become so frustrating. Where is the urgency to get the ball to a winger/advancing full back, or to someone playing the Kasey Palmer role, before the opposition are afforded all the time in the world to reset defensively? One reason we find it so difficult to break teams down is because we give them so much time to set up before we attack. Further to this, we rarely have any attacking cohesion. Watch tonight how many times one of our players will have the ball at their feet and either have no one within 20/30 years of him and/or have no one making a forwards run to receive a pass. This is the truly frightening thing tactics wise, and we have two of the quickest players in the league! It's all about little partnerships around the pitch and link up play to threaten in attack. In theory with the players we have we should be causing all sorts of problems, which is why I think our problem is a tactical one. Spot on. It is almost basic when you think about it, work in triangles and play in partnership's to get up the pitch, I.e Smith and Kachunga promotion season. It really is frightening how many times we nick the ball back inside their half and nobody is busting a gut to get forward, instead we hang onto the ball, allow their defence and midfield to reset and the chance is gone. Their is no transition from winning the ball back in the press and breaking into a counter. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 16, 2019 10:55:38 GMT 1
Mike Flynn on talksport doing superb job at Newport ? Maybe could here !
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Post by townrwe on Aug 16, 2019 11:03:45 GMT 1
Ive been saying it for 3 years, but if you want to score goals you need to get goal threats onto the pitch.
For this reason, we have to do away with Hoggy, Mbenza, RVLP and Diakhaby from tonights lineups. How far away is mounie?
Im making sweeping changes, based on goal threat.
Grabba or Schofield
Hadj-Schinds-Big Tom-King
Chewie-Stanks or Obrien-Pritchard
Kacha-Mounie-Grant
Only question for me is kongolo at left back, id prefer to swap him with big Tommy, but brown obviously isnt ready. To go into a season without a proper left back/wing back was just ridiculous.
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Post by terriertim on Aug 16, 2019 11:11:08 GMT 1
Town will win tonight - simples
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Post by boooothy on Aug 16, 2019 11:11:36 GMT 1
The best team to win games seems so obvious to me:
Grabara
Flo Elphick Schindler Kongolo
Chalobah Hogg
Pritchard
Diakhaby Grant VLP
With Kachunga replacing Diakhaby
I suspect though that O’brien will play and VLP wont in this 4 3 3 which hasn’t worked since we started playing it over 7 months ago.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 16, 2019 11:19:06 GMT 1
We're a wounded animal according to Scott Parker, I'm just not sure what animal he is referring too.
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Post by townrwe on Aug 16, 2019 11:21:01 GMT 1
We're a wounded animal according to Scott Parker, I'm just not sure what animal he is referring too. A terrier with his teeth remove and just involved in collision with a lorry doing 70. |
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Post by turbo2 on Aug 16, 2019 11:21:12 GMT 1
The best team to win games seems so obvious to me: Grabara Flo Elphick Schindler Kongolo Chalobah Hogg Pritchard Diakhaby Grant VLP With Kachunga replacing Diakhaby I suspect though that O’brien will play and VLP wont in this 4 3 3 which hasn’t worked since we started playing it over 7 months ago. Don't agree. The three up front just hasn't worked for months. Just watch as we break, the player on the opposite wing to the ball should be busting a gut to get in the box to support Grant. Invariably they are 20 yards behind the play, just watching. Its hopeless. Get someone upfront with Grant. Hopefully Campbell, but if not then Mounie, Pritch, Kacha. Anyone who is willing to play up and stay up so that when the ball coms into the box the defenders have something to do. Ive said for months now, centre halfs have an easy game every week against us, and it needs to change |
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Post by boooothy on Aug 16, 2019 11:27:33 GMT 1
The best team to win games seems so obvious to me: Grabara Flo Elphick Schindler Kongolo Chalobah Hogg Pritchard Diakhaby Grant VLP With Kachunga replacing Diakhaby I suspect though that O’brien will play and VLP wont in this 4 3 3 which hasn’t worked since we started playing it over 7 months ago. Don't agree. The three up front just hasn't worked for months. Just watch as we break, the player on the opposite wing to the ball should be busting a gut to get in the box to support Grant. Invariably they are 20 yards behind the play, just watching. Its hopeless. Get someone upfront with Grant. Hopefully Campbell, but if not then Mounie, Pritch, Kacha. Anyone who is willing to play up and stay up so that when the ball coms into the box the defenders have something to do. Ive said for months now, centre halfs have an easy game every week against us, and it needs to change[/quote That was the Premier League. My team beats Luton, Barnsley, QPR 9 times out 10. |
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Post by dumbo on Aug 16, 2019 11:30:15 GMT 1
The best team to win games seems so obvious to me: Grabara Flo Elphick Schindler Kongolo Chalobah Hogg Pritchard Diakhaby Grant VLP With Kachunga replacing Diakhaby I suspect though that O’brien will play and VLP wont in this 4 3 3 which hasn’t worked since we started playing it over 7 months ago. Similar to my team. Just don't think Chalobah will be ready to play 2 games in a week. O'Brien had an OK debut and deserves another chance. |
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Post by boooothy on Aug 16, 2019 11:32:01 GMT 1
Pritchard was like the emperors clothes in the Premier League. He should have been good but actually created nothing.
But i’ve seen him play in the Championship and he’s a definite goal threat.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2019 11:33:23 GMT 1
If we win 4-0 tonight we go 3rd 🤔
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Post by Uddersfield on Aug 16, 2019 11:34:10 GMT 1
Pritchard was like the emperors clothes in the Premier League. He should have been good but actually created nothing. But i’ve seen him play in the Championship and he’s a definite goal threat. When playing in the CAM role, definitely. |
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Aug 16, 2019 11:37:59 GMT 1
Pritchard is the key, get him in the number 10/CAM area and he will make things happen no doubt about it.
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Post by boooothy on Aug 16, 2019 11:41:35 GMT 1
Getting Pritchard and VLP in the same team is the only way to make up for the “sale” of Mooy.
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 16, 2019 11:51:26 GMT 1
I don't think the issue is playing 2 up front, it's the transition between midfield and attack that is non-existent (and was last year). It doesn't fit Jan's system but for me Pritchard (or maybe Kachunga?) has to play as a 10. Grant needs balls to feet. Have you watched Kachunga ? He can't play as a 10, his passing and decision making is awful. If he plays it has to be as a second striker cos he's less creative than Hogg |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 16, 2019 12:01:46 GMT 1
Ive been saying it for 3 years, but if you want to score goals you need to get goal threats onto the pitch. For this reason, we have to do away with Hoggy, Mbenza, RVLP and Diakhaby from tonights lineups. How far away is mounie? Im making sweeping changes, based on goal threat. Grabba or Schofield Hadj-Schinds-Big Tom-King Chewie-Stanks or Obrien-Pritchard Kacha-Mounie-Grant Only question for me is kongolo at left back, id prefer to swap him with big Tommy, but brown obviously isnt ready. To go into a season without a proper left back/wing back was just ridiculous. We need goals so you'd play a bloke who scored twice last season and another who's scored once in 2 1/2 years 🤔 |
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Post by townrwe on Aug 16, 2019 12:03:46 GMT 1
I don't think the issue is playing 2 up front, it's the transition between midfield and attack that is non-existent (and was last year). It doesn't fit Jan's system but for me Pritchard (or maybe Kachunga?) has to play as a 10. Grant needs balls to feet. Have you watched Kachunga ? He can't play as a 10, his passing and decision making is awful. If he plays it has to be as a second striker cos he's less creative than Hogg Like i said earlier, I think he could play on the right, mounie in the middle and grant on the left. The 3 players where goals are most likely to come from in the same team. Then your midfield needs to have creativity, Bacuna and Pritchard with Obrien, Chabs, Stanks or Hogg in the DM role probably in that order, maybe stanks or Chabs to add an ariel threat at set pieces. |
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Post by terriers321 on Aug 16, 2019 12:05:38 GMT 1
I didn't realise Fulham were so poor on the road. 1 win with 17 defeats in the last 20. Our home form doesn't make much better reading either. 2 wins with 15 defeats in the last 20. Preying we can make it 3 wins tomorrow 🙏 They are shit its just a shame we are shitter. Last season they were only 3 points ahead of us for most of it until the last couple of games. |
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Post by CaptainHart on Aug 16, 2019 12:07:27 GMT 1
The best team to win games seems so obvious to me: Grabara Flo Elphick Schindler Kongolo Chalobah Hogg Pritchard Diakhaby Grant VLP With Kachunga replacing Diakhaby I suspect though that O’brien will play and VLP wont in this 4 3 3 which hasn’t worked since we started playing it over 7 months ago. Similar to my team. Just don't think Chalobah will be ready to play 2 games in a week. O'Brien had an OK debut and deserves another chance. I agree that's our strongest side, I also think that's how we'll start tonight. |
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Post by Uddersfield on Aug 16, 2019 12:08:09 GMT 1
I didn't realise Fulham were so poor on the road. 1 win with 17 defeats in the last 20. Our home form doesn't make much better reading either. 2 wins with 15 defeats in the last 20. Preying we can make it 3 wins tomorrow 🙏 They are shit its just a shame we are shitter. Last season they were only 3 points ahead of us for most of it until the last couple of games. Just a shame we've got even more weaker. |
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Post by dumbo on Aug 16, 2019 12:10:40 GMT 1
I'm looking forward to the game, even slightly optimistic. Might just be that the strong reaction to the season start and Tuesday in particular are a good focuser and we get a performance. Might be a poor performance leads to a major change.
Maybe just that Friday feeling and can taste the ale already.
Anyone else? Didn't think so.
Please send help.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 16, 2019 12:12:49 GMT 1
Bbc 5 live saying. A friday night in Uddrrsfield. Quote. “. Heaven. “
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