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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 19, 2019 12:15:42 GMT 1
Hughton's 60 and at that age he's unlikely to have to consider moving a young family up here. He's also previously managed Newcastle so he's not stranger to the north. With £20m of unspent transfer fees in the bank/due to us and no compo to pay out, its about time we showed some ambition. The time for rookies is over (for now). Wagner worked, Siewert didn't and Hudson has been part of an unsuccessful set up since last summer. Hang on he’s 60 with a young family? Read the post(s) again. |
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 19, 2019 12:18:33 GMT 1
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 19, 2019 12:21:05 GMT 1
His reputation has been perhaps irrevocably damaged imo. Yeah, he's a proper weirdo. I'll never forget when he called that reporter an Ostrich  That tussle with the palace player on the touchline was very weird. As were some of his interviews around the same time. He looked like he was on verge of a mental breakdown or mass killing spree. You could hear the gasp of relief in Huddersfield from the Leicester players when he left |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 19, 2019 12:29:47 GMT 1
this is going to be like the summer transfer thread...how long do we have to wait, I'm already bored.. I'll save you the wait, it will be the cost free option of Hudson after a couple of wins and a draw. what are the odds on a couple of wins and a draw?  ??  2 wins and a draw with a cost free option??? and thats bad because? |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 19, 2019 12:54:14 GMT 1
1/100 the cheapest fucking option (same as it ever was) Siewert was a lazy option, he wasn't necessarily a cheap one. Also, Wagner very quickly became well paid, so he wasn't a cheap option either. Nearly all of us are cheesed off to some degree, but Siewert is now gone and people need to grow up, show some balls and stop always assuming the worst and in particular commenting to that effect. |
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Post by workshyfop on Aug 19, 2019 13:14:54 GMT 1
1/100 the cheapest fucking option (same as it ever was) Siewert was a lazy option, he wasn't necessarily a cheap one. Also, Wagner very quickly became well paid, so he wasn't a cheap option either. Nearly all of us are cheesed off to some degree, but Siewert is now gone and people need to grow, show some balls and stop always assuming the worst and in particular commenting to that effect. Fair enough, have to wait and see. Just disappointed and frustrated that the PL experience seems to have left us no better off than before. |
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Post by shawsie on Aug 19, 2019 13:27:12 GMT 1
this is going to be like the summer transfer thread...how long do we have to wait, I'm already bored.. I'll save you the wait, it will be the cost free option of Hudson after a couple of wins and a draw. If he gets 2 wins and a draw in the next 3 with the current squad then I'd give him the job!!! Make no mistake here - it wouldn't matter if Pep came he can only do so much with a disinterested squad some of whom have talent inversely proportional to their wallets!!! Don't expect miracles - I will give some of the players a tad longer as they haven't been here long, but based on thus far to finish half way up the championship this term will be some achievement. At present, if we lost grant long term I'm not sure we would stay up. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Aug 19, 2019 13:40:40 GMT 1
I have a mate who is adamant he saw Campbell with Phil last night. Not picking up his phone.
I also know another guy who knows Burchnall extremely well and not picking up his phone.
Torture for a guy like me who loves a betting coup.
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Post by benhomly on Aug 19, 2019 13:47:57 GMT 1
I have a mate who is adamant he saw Campbell with Phil last night. Not picking up his phone. I also know another guy who knows Burchnall extremely well and not picking up his phone. Torture for a guy like me who loves a betting coup. Go with Campbell Oti. After all why would someone leave the tranquility of Norway for the war torn streets of Huddersfield where there's a shooting or a stabbing every other day? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2019 13:51:06 GMT 1
I have a mate who is adamant he saw Campbell with Phil last night. Not picking up his phone. I also know another guy who knows Burchnall extremely well and not picking up his phone. Torture for a guy like me who loves a betting coup. Go with Campbell Oti. After all why would someone leave the tranquility of Norway for the war torn streets of Huddersfield where there's a shooting or a stabbing every other day? hes in sweden he got sacked in norway for been shit and getting relegated hope we go nowhere near that one. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Aug 19, 2019 14:08:03 GMT 1
I have a mate who is adamant he saw Campbell with Phil last night. Not picking up his phone. I also know another guy who knows Burchnall extremely well and not picking up his phone. Torture for a guy like me who loves a betting coup. Go with Campbell Oti. After all why would someone leave the tranquility of Norway for the war torn streets of Huddersfield where there's a shooting or a stabbing every other day? Campbells from East London but he does not live there. |
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Aug 19, 2019 14:13:08 GMT 1
I have a mate who is adamant he saw Campbell with Phil last night. Not picking up his phone. I also know another guy who knows Burchnall extremely well and not picking up his phone. Torture for a guy like me who loves a betting coup. Go with Campbell Oti. After all why would someone leave the tranquility of Norway for the war torn streets of Huddersfield where there's a shooting or a stabbing every other day?
Don't know what newspaper you read, but the past few years parts of Sweden have become no go areas for the police, Norway's getting rough too.
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Post by Stavros on Aug 19, 2019 14:22:27 GMT 1
this is going to be like the summer transfer thread...how long do we have to wait, I'm already bored.. I'll save you the wait, it will be the cost free option of Hudson after a couple of wins and a draw. So he doesn't get appointed until February then? |
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Post by duffterrier on Aug 19, 2019 14:28:25 GMT 1
Nigel Pearson @40/1 (20/1 for SW) ew bet, big Phil type? 2 promo's (same as CH), younger than CH, takes no shit (suit Hoggy)...... & cheaper! Explain how it can be each way?!!! |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Aug 19, 2019 14:28:57 GMT 1
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/mark-hudson-want-huddersfield-town-16779506Mark Hudson has given an interview: Mark Hudson says he plans to put his own stamp on things as he takes charge of Huddersfield Town at Cardiff City. The 37-year-old makes no bones about the fact he wants to become a manager - and hopefully with Town at some point - but he's looking no further than Wednesday's clash in Wales and the following home game with Reading at this stage. Hudson says he has 24 players vying for places and he has spoken to them all, indicating it's a clean slate for the squad after Jan Siewert's departure as head coach. "I do want to become a football manager and definitely at this club at some point," said Hudson, who picked the team against Manchester City last season following David Wagner's departure. "I am looking forward to this week and won't look too far beyond that. "I will enjoy it, I will put my stamp on things and the players have been receptive - they were great in training. "They worked hard, and it will be a clear message going into the game." Hudson says he's keen to restore the 'identity' which made Town competitive before a run which has brought just four wins in 54 outings in all competitions. "We will train the way we should play on the pitch, because I think that will give us a better chance," he added. "We need high energy and we need to keep the ball longer than we have been doing. "Playing with that high energy will give us a better chance of winning the ball back quickly when we do lose it. "But it's about the energy, going into each game feeling we can get something from it, with an idea, some principles and some fundamentals in that - and see how we go."
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Aug 19, 2019 14:29:57 GMT 1
So, seems like back to the basics of the No Limits ethos DW instilled in the squad.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Aug 19, 2019 14:35:47 GMT 1
So, seems like back to the basics of the No Limits ethos DW instilled in the squad. to be fair it works in the championship. Hopefully the players have now got over Friday's shock. |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 19, 2019 15:08:49 GMT 1
Town need an experienced manager like Hughton to progress in its present financial position, and Hughton has what it takes to stabilise the club with a view to "EVENTUALLY " getting the club back to a higher level.
He obviously cannot do this on his own ,and vital we have a good director of football in place who knows the market both home and abroad
Hudson is not the long term answer for many a reason ,and just hope we dont end up going down that same road similar to what i witnessed after the 70s top flight failure.
Amazing looking at the failure on the bookies list as most on there seem to be big loosers that have found themselves on a football merry go round
Hughton didnt do that much wrong at Brighton ,and maybe a case here that a club not much bigger than ours should be careful what they wish for.
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Post by Stavros on Aug 19, 2019 15:22:22 GMT 1
So, seems like back to the basics of the No Limits ethos DW instilled in the squad. yes. And 4231 |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 19, 2019 15:24:59 GMT 1
So, seems like back to the basics of the No Limits ethos DW instilled in the squad. to be fair it works in the championship. Hopefully the players have now got over Friday's shock. Shock of a manager with 5% win ratio being sacked? If they didn't see that coming then they're a bit daft |
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Post by pikeylewis on Aug 19, 2019 15:39:19 GMT 1
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/mark-hudson-want-huddersfield-town-16779506Mark Hudson has given an interview: Mark Hudson says he plans to put his own stamp on things as he takes charge of Huddersfield Town at Cardiff City. The 37-year-old makes no bones about the fact he wants to become a manager - and hopefully with Town at some point - but he's looking no further than Wednesday's clash in Wales and the following home game with Reading at this stage. Hudson says he has 24 players vying for places and he has spoken to them all, indicating it's a clean slate for the squad after Jan Siewert's departure as head coach. "I do want to become a football manager and definitely at this club at some point," said Hudson, who picked the team against Manchester City last season following David Wagner's departure. "I am looking forward to this week and won't look too far beyond that. "I will enjoy it, I will put my stamp on things and the players have been receptive - they were great in training. "They worked hard, and it will be a clear message going into the game." Hudson says he's keen to restore the 'identity' which made Town competitive before a run which has brought just four wins in 54 outings in all competitions. "We will train the way we should play on the pitch, because I think that will give us a better chance," he added. "We need high energy and we need to keep the ball longer than we have been doing. "Playing with that high energy will give us a better chance of winning the ball back quickly when we do lose it. "But it's about the energy, going into each game feeling we can get something from it, with an idea, some principles and some fundamentals in that - and see how we go." Reading between the lines MH completely slates Siewert for a low energy high press and kick and rush football in possession (rightly so). At least he’s identified 2 key areas to fix so should be some improvements. |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Aug 19, 2019 15:39:47 GMT 1
to be fair it works in the championship. Hopefully the players have now got over Friday's shock. Shock of a manager with 5% win ratio being sacked? If they didn't see that coming then they're a bit daft Bit harsh... 5.263157894736842% |
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) on Aug 19, 2019 15:40:33 GMT 1
www.examinerlive.co.uk/sport/football/news/mark-hudson-want-huddersfield-town-16779506Mark Hudson has given an interview: Mark Hudson says he plans to put his own stamp on things as he takes charge of Huddersfield Town at Cardiff City. The 37-year-old makes no bones about the fact he wants to become a manager - and hopefully with Town at some point - but he's looking no further than Wednesday's clash in Wales and the following home game with Reading at this stage. Hudson says he has 24 players vying for places and he has spoken to them all, indicating it's a clean slate for the squad after Jan Siewert's departure as head coach. "I do want to become a football manager and definitely at this club at some point," said Hudson, who picked the team against Manchester City last season following David Wagner's departure. "I am looking forward to this week and won't look too far beyond that. "I will enjoy it, I will put my stamp on things and the players have been receptive - they were great in training. "They worked hard, and it will be a clear message going into the game." Hudson says he's keen to restore the 'identity' which made Town competitive before a run which has brought just four wins in 54 outings in all competitions. "We will train the way we should play on the pitch, because I think that will give us a better chance," he added. "We need high energy and we need to keep the ball longer than we have been doing. "Playing with that high energy will give us a better chance of winning the ball back quickly when we do lose it. "But it's about the energy, going into each game feeling we can get something from it, with an idea, some principles and some fundamentals in that - and see how we go." Reading between the lines MH completely slates Siewert for a low energy high press and kick and rush football in possession (rightly so). At least he’s identified 2 key areas to fix so should be some improvements. "reading between the lines" and "completely slates" are incongruous. |
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Post by dugnet on Aug 19, 2019 15:42:08 GMT 1
Town need an experienced manager like Hughton to progress in its present financial position, and Hughton has what it takes to stabilise the club with a view to "EVENTUALLY " getting the club back to a higher level. He obviously cannot do this on his own ,and vital we have a good director of football in place who knows the market both home and abroad Hudson is not the long term answer for many a reason ,and just hope we dont end up going down that same road similar to what i witnessed after the 70s top flight failure. Amazing looking at the failure on the bookies list as most on there seem to be big loosers that have found themselves on a football merry go round Hughton didnt do that much wrong at Brighton ,and maybe a case here that a club not much bigger than ours should be careful what they wish for. Hughton is the safe choice and it also shows a degree of intent. I however suspect there are a few reasons why it is unlikely we would be able to ttract him. 1 - He wouldn't be cheap - his cv is rock solid so you can be sure what you are paying for 2 - He would want a budget - all the noises to date have suggested we do not have significant funds for team development 3 - He may look at the club and be concerned that things are not as stable as they once were at Town Not impossible we could attract him, but unlikely. If not Hughton then we are looking at essentially two groups - the old lags who have differing levels of success on their CV or someone up and coming looking for an opportunity. Of the two options I personally favour someone with the desire to take the challenge and build their reputation as opposed to someone who is taking the next job available. However, we have just had the young and enthusiastic option and that didn't go too well. Hudson is an intriguing option. I honestly don't know if he will make a decent manager. On the plus side he will immediately carry respect. He also worked under DW and will have witnessed what made DW so successful. That doesn't mean he can be a DW mk2 but his initial comments that on the pitch we are going to get back to what made us successful. DW came in, made very few changes to the squad in his first 6 months but we could all see the improvement (even if results tailed off later in the season). If Hudson can harness that approach he has a chance. There are two elements to being a successful manager that I can see; 1 - Having a clear vision on tactics and set up 2 - Being an excellent man manager and getting the best out of the players, and removing those who may not buy in and hinder what you are looking to achieve. Hudson can learn the former, indeed he may be already be tactically aware. The latter is about him as a person and how he interacts with people. DW had great charisma, he was engaging, he got you to believe anything is possible. This is a quality that you cannot easily manufacture. Look at the truly great managers, whether you like them or not, Clough, Guardiola, Mourinho, Ferguson, Shankly - all carried respect and had the ability to lift people. For the vast majority of his time with Town DW had that special ability. Is Hudson that type of character? I don't know, but if he is capable of lifting the players in the next couple of games (and part of this will be deploying tactics that the players buy into) we will soon be able to tell. Picking a manager isn't easy, there many more poor candidates out there as there are good ones. It may come down to if PH gets lucky in his choice. One thing I think he definitely needs to do is decide what support he is prepared to give and also realise that support will be required (if we are to build on 2 seasons in the Premier League). If it wasn't so important to us it would be quite exciting - but the knowledge if we get things wrong and we are likely to be heading back to where we came from makes it a little less exciting, more excruciating in reality. |
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Post by shawsie on Aug 19, 2019 15:42:59 GMT 1
Town need an experienced manager like Hughton to progress in its present financial position, and Hughton has what it takes to stabilise the club with a view to "EVENTUALLY " getting the club back to a higher level. He obviously cannot do this on his own ,and vital we have a good director of football in place who knows the market both home and abroad Hudson is not the long term answer for many a reason ,and just hope we dont end up going down that same road similar to what i witnessed after the 70s top flight failure. Amazing looking at the failure on the bookies list as most on there seem to be big loosers that have found themselves on a football merry go round Hughton didnt do that much wrong at Brighton ,and maybe a case here that a club not much bigger than ours should be careful what they wish for. Couldn't disagree more - Wagner was a relative novice as head coach before he came here and just being experienced guarantees nothing. Ask Stoke about Rowett, Leeds about Warnock, Derby about McLaren, Forest about O'Neill - all bigger clubs than us with higher budgets. We need a new identity - something the whole club can buy into as with Wagner. Not the usual "they have more money than us" excuses trotted out by Robins, Powell. I do however massively agree on the director of football - its the instability here that led us to the appalling recruitment of sobhi, the sprint twins etc. We need to identify what the role entails, how it works with the head coach and what we need to recruit. With the recent scattergun approach we have ended up with expensive misfits and young lads not yet ready a la brown, bacuna. Think folks need to relax a little and wait until whoever the new man appointed has had a little time to put his stamp on matters - PH is not a stupid man and now needs to be given patience to get whoever he and the board think is the right candidate. Not an easy job but one they know they need to get right. Heres hoping. |
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Post by dxterrier on Aug 19, 2019 15:46:27 GMT 1
Could be one or two that we have slightly 'loved up' memories of, if it wasn't about DAve I apologise. It was Jacko I was on about, that ethos of proud and honoured to wear the shirt is whats needed now He wouldn't come back now, I see him in Brighouse from time to time and he always speaks, I asked him a few years ago if he would ever come back, he said he would always love the place but had no desire to manage again Maybe he could be the new Steve "Blackie" Black under whoever comes in next |
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Post by pikeylewis on Aug 19, 2019 15:50:38 GMT 1
Reading between the lines MH completely slates Siewert for a low energy high press and kick and rush football in possession (rightly so). At least he’s identified 2 key areas to fix so should be some improvements. "reading between the lines" and "completely slates" are incongruous. No they’re not. A subtle slating can be done to a level of completion* |
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Post by runner76 on Aug 19, 2019 15:51:22 GMT 1
Has any other club lost two managers within the first 3 league games!?!?!?
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Post by townrwe on Aug 19, 2019 16:32:05 GMT 1
Dan Petrescu
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 19, 2019 16:36:44 GMT 1
This the same Petrescu that has only been at Cluj for 4 months & just dumped Celtic out of the champions league? |
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