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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 24, 2019 17:34:19 GMT 1
That’s a decent interview from MH. Clearly the players are not for enough. By a long chalk. He's talking like it was blatantly obvious that we were doing in pre seaosn wasn't going to make us fit enough Well why did he go along for the ride and not say anything. It's a bit late in the day now to be slagging off the pre season methods Hudson's been part of the coaching set up throughout this appalling run and should be nowhere near when it comes to appointing Siewert's replacement. Time for a completely fresh outlook and let whoever they appoint bring in his own backroom team, and if that means ditching Hudson altogether, then so be it. |
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Post by stanton1969 on Aug 24, 2019 17:35:04 GMT 1
Apart from Pritchard, we have no creative midfielder. Hogg and Chalobah are great, but they create nothing. Our build up is so slow. Once again, we have a center forward marking 2 center backs. It’s Wagner ball all over again. Isn't Hogg part of the problem with his slow build up though? Doesn't like passing forward or moving forward at all. Careful.....you can’t criticise JH |
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Post by stanton1969 on Aug 24, 2019 17:36:36 GMT 1
He's talking like it was blatantly obvious that we were doing in pre seaosn wasn't going to make us fit enough Well why did he go along for the ride and not say anything. It's a bit late in the day now to be slagging off the pre season methods Hudson's been part of the coaching set up throughout this appalling run and should be nowhere near when it comes to appointing Siewert's replacement. Time for a completely fresh outlook and let whoever they appoint bring in his own backroom team, and if that means ditching Hudson altogether, then so be it. Schindler has been a consistent part of this run.....should he go as well? There is a lot more wrong than you suggest. |
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Post by kwami-hodouto on Aug 24, 2019 17:38:00 GMT 1
Apart from Pritchard, we have no creative midfielder. Hogg and Chalobah are great, but they create nothing. Our build up is so slow. Once again, we have a center forward marking 2 center backs. It’s Wagner ball all over again. Isn't Hogg part of the problem with his slow build up though? Doesn't like passing forward or moving forward at all. Why do we persist in playing two defensive midfielders every game? It is so fucking negative. It isn't like it is helping us to keep clean sheets. Hogg has been really poor so far this season. I would drop him and put someone more attack minded in Like O'Brien or Brown. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 24, 2019 17:38:56 GMT 1
That’s a decent interview from MH. Clearly the players are not for enough. By a long chalk. Yes and we all saw that after 20 minutes against derby with half the team gasping for breath... so how was that allowed to happen. Siewert, Hudson, Whitehead, fitness conditioners  ? How come they didn't see it in pre season ? Total lack of professionalism and all concerned need clearing out. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 24, 2019 17:39:20 GMT 1
Apart from Pritchard, we have no creative midfielder. Hogg and Chalobah are great, but they create nothing. Our build up is so slow. Once again, we have a center forward marking 2 center backs. It’s Wagner ball all over again. Isn't Hogg part of the problem with his slow build up though? Doesn't like passing forward or moving forward at all. I agree, however, we are playing two players exactly like Hogg with Chalobah, which compounds it further. They often get in each others way and neither have a good final ball. I didn’t see either breaking into the box. We have serious issues with how we play the final third of the pitch. |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 24, 2019 17:39:20 GMT 1
Wagner signed these retained " OVERPRICED " wankers. and Hoyle must have signed them off
Both the above mentioned have walked , and sadly the parachute payments required to replace the failed shite seem to be going with them .
Bottom line is Wagner and Hoyle were responsible for bringing in shite , and now Hoyle wants the club to pay him back with funds that were vital to replace his and Wagners shit failed signings.
Sadly players like Mounie ,Mbenza, Flo,Prichard, Bacuna have become the strength of the first team , and how worrying is that
The club need to bring in a quality manager now before this club goes down the Sunderland route ,and we will have both Hoyle and Wagner to thank for that
It will be January when the fate of the club will be decided ,and Hoyle needs to help the club out mainly due to last seasons dreadful errors.
The forever failing Hudson should have been booted out with Siewert
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 24, 2019 17:40:28 GMT 1
Hudson's been part of the coaching set up throughout this appalling run and should be nowhere near when it comes to appointing Siewert's replacement. Time for a completely fresh outlook and let whoever they appoint bring in his own backroom team, and if that means ditching Hudson altogether, then so be it. Schindler has been a consistent part of this run.....should he go as well? There is a lot more wrong than you suggest. There's loads of things wrong but the comment was a response to Hudson's interview. |
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Post by ben1987 on Aug 24, 2019 17:41:15 GMT 1
Jarvis sells shirts and jollies, who couldn't in the  of the Prem. Anne signs stuff and sends letters, to a different organising body for a couple of years but hey. Winter avoids most things. The accountant knows where the Prem money has gone. Nobody is taking any responsibility for this shit. Just covering their own corner and hiding. Hodginkson has been sold a pup with a kennel full of shit dogs. It's nothing to do with Jarvis or Hough. They're both very good at their jobs. Tbf the players love Hough, she’s very good at motivating them.... |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 24, 2019 17:41:31 GMT 1
We actually played well up until Reading scoring but as soon as that lad cut inside and got his shot away in to the net, you knew there was no way back. The club have continually buried their heads in the sand over the goalscoring issue for the last 3 years and it's showing now. I would be happy just to stay up and clear the decks and build a better squad and try for promotion next season but even that seems a long way off. I don't envy you Hodgkinson mate unless you turn it round the fans will hound you out of the club.
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Post by smax on Aug 24, 2019 17:42:15 GMT 1
Wagner signed these retained " OVERPRICED " wankers. and Hoyle must have signed them off Both the above mentioned have f--ked off with their millions , and sadly the parachute payments required to replace the failed shite seem have gone with them . Bottom line is Wagner and Hoyle were responsible for bringing in shite , and now Hoyle wants the club to pay him back with funds that were vital to replace his and Wagners shit failed signings. Sadly players like Mounie ,Mbenza, Flo,Prichard, Bacuna have become the strength of the first team , and how worrying is that The club need to bring in a quality manager now before this club goes down the Sunderland route ,and we will have both Hoyle and Wagner to thank for that It will be January when the fate of the club will be decided ,and Hoyle needs to help the club out mainly due to last seasons dreadful errors. I’ll say it quietly and in disguise. But you might just be right. Sorry to both Dean and David for daring to think this by the way. |
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Post by Galpharmer on Aug 24, 2019 17:43:20 GMT 1
It's nothing to do with Jarvis or Hough. They're both very good at their jobs. Tbf the players love Hough, she’s very good at motivating them.... No need for a Lynch mob. |
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Post by royrace on Aug 24, 2019 17:44:10 GMT 1
He already said getting a cheque book manager is out of the question. To me that means only people who are willing to work without funds will be considered. I want to give PH the benefit of the doubt but right now I’m struggling. So much is wrong but there does not seem to be any appetite to fix it, especially if it means spending any money. If we don’t get a good manager in and give him some funds in January we will be screwed. There are gaps that need to be plugged before next summer. If he never intended spending any money, he shouldn’t have bought the club. Dean casually revealed there were overseas bidders but they were discounted; like it was a good thing. Fact is selling to Phil suited Dean and Phil. To be perfectly honest I don’t give a fk who owns it but they need to have pockets of a certain depth otherwise we’re a league one or two club. It looks at the moment like as was rumoured PH doesn’t have the required wealth needed to run this football club and the cost slashing exercise is going to see us relegated as per Sunderland etc. Difference is our cost slashing is down to having a new owner with zero funds rather than over spending in the pl which as we all know didn’t happen. |
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Post by deadleg on Aug 24, 2019 17:44:35 GMT 1
Trouble is, we kind of have to play Hogg because we have no-one else with any sort of experience in the middle. Bacuna's the closest thing but is obviously still very young and can be all over the place mentally at the best of times.
Just another facet of our terrible recruitment really, he has no genuine competition. It's a shame Williams had his injury troubles.
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Post by stanton1969 on Aug 24, 2019 17:47:48 GMT 1
Schindler has been a consistent part of this run.....should he go as well? There is a lot more wrong than you suggest. There's loads of things wrong but the comment was a response to Hudson's interview. Accepted....but there are quite a few common things that correlate with this run. You may be absolutely right about the coaching staff. But it could be something else. And I genuinely don’t know what that something else is. |
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Post by Galpharmer on Aug 24, 2019 17:48:24 GMT 1
If he never intended spending any money, he shouldn’t have bought the club. Dean casually revealed there were overseas bidders but they were discounted; like it was a good thing. Fact is selling to Phil suited Dean and Phil. To be perfectly honest I don’t give a fk who owns it but they need to have pockets of a certain depth otherwise we’re a league one or two club. It looks at the moment like as was rumoured PH doesn’t have the required wealth needed to run this football club and the cost slashing exercise is going to see us relegated as per Sunderland etc. Difference is our cost slashing is down to having a new owner with zero funds rather than over spending in the pl which as we all know didn’t happen. How much is the Club actually worth? We don't own the ground, or technically the training ground. The Club is worth what the players are at rock bottom prices I guess. For me, DH has looked at that and decided selling to PH for peanuts, but getting his coin back from the PL payments. Nothing wrong with that I guess. But say so. £20-£30million from a Yank or all your dosh back via potless Phil? All speculative bullshit anyway. |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 24, 2019 17:49:06 GMT 1
Wagner signed these retained " OVERPRICED " wankers. and Hoyle must have signed them off Both the above mentioned have f--ked off with their millions , and sadly the parachute payments required to replace the failed shite seem have gone with them . Bottom line is Wagner and Hoyle were responsible for bringing in shite , and now Hoyle wants the club to pay him back with funds that were vital to replace his and Wagners shit failed signings. Sadly players like Mounie ,Mbenza, Flo,Prichard, Bacuna have become the strength of the first team , and how worrying is that The club need to bring in a quality manager now before this club goes down the Sunderland route ,and we will have both Hoyle and Wagner to thank for that It will be January when the fate of the club will be decided ,and Hoyle needs to help the club out mainly due to last seasons dreadful errors. I’ll say it quietly and in disguise. But you might just be right. Sorry to both Dean and David for daring to think this by the way. Both have done well for the club in past seasons ,but its last seasons dreadful business which is now costing the club dearly Sadly we can only play those on the books shite or not |
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Post by yorkshiretripod on Aug 24, 2019 17:49:20 GMT 1
Isn't Hogg part of the problem with his slow build up though? Doesn't like passing forward or moving forward at all. I agree, however, we are playing two players exactly like Hogg with Chalobah, which compounds it further. They often get in each others way and neither have a good final ball. I didn’t see either breaking into the box. We have serious issues with how we play the final third of the pitch. I'm tired of seeing us attack with only 2 players in the box whenever we get a cross or pass in there. You're right, no breaking into the box. It's slow build-up style of play at fault, for me. Too laborious and too many players stick rigidly to their 'position' on the field. More fluidity needed from the next regime. |
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Post by FloridaTerrier on Aug 24, 2019 17:49:25 GMT 1
That’s a decent interview from MH. Clearly the players are not for enough. By a long chalk. But, how does that not get fixed or assessed by MH who is one of the coaches at the club? It screams out that he didn't set the tone or speak up. |
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Post by Ross83 on Aug 24, 2019 17:49:59 GMT 1
Trouble is, we kind of have to play Hogg because we have no-one else with any sort of experience in the middle. Bacuna's the closest thing but is obviously still very young and can be all over the place mentally at the best of times. Just another facet of our terrible recruitment really, he has no genuine competition. It's a shame Williams had his injury troubles. Shows how woeful we've become.. I'd love to see Williams in that midfield right now. |
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Post by leemorris on Aug 24, 2019 17:52:11 GMT 1
0-0 was only ever going to be the best we were going to get. So static. Clueless. We've nobody on the bench to solve that or seemingly on the coaching team. The subs might have cost us a draw, but that starting line up will cost us our Championship place, unless some bugger can show them how to move and create something. Apart from Pritchard, we have no creative midfielder. Hogg and Chalobah are great, but they create nothing. Our build up is so slow. Once again, we have a center forward marking 2 center backs. It’s Wagner ball all over again. You and me must have been watching a different game today. Chalobah was all over the midfield, made tackles, pushed players off the ball, made positive balls forward,moved into space. He showed Hogg up today. Hogg's passing can be a little poor at times but he makes so many square balls and doesn't connect with the attack. We need drop the position or the player. We need attack minded players on the pitch. Even if we lost 2-3 I'd be happy to be scoring goals. |
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Post by detox on Aug 24, 2019 17:55:59 GMT 1
What's happened to Grant.? Had high hopes for him but he seems to have lost something..
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Post by waggers on Aug 24, 2019 17:58:39 GMT 1
Ffs does anyone seriously think Hughton will come here now,not a chance in hell.The chairman has shown his cards by spending jack shit. All the hard work put in by wagner & hoyle is well and truly down the shit pot. Agree. Hughton will ask how much he has to spend and get the reply sod all mate. This new chairman is just a chancer. Very surprised he was allowed to get in charge. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 24, 2019 18:01:25 GMT 1
Apart from Pritchard, we have no creative midfielder. Hogg and Chalobah are great, but they create nothing. Our build up is so slow. Once again, we have a center forward marking 2 center backs. It’s Wagner ball all over again. You and me must have been watching a different game today. Chalobah was all over the midfield, made tackles, pushed players off the ball, made positive balls forward,moved into space. He showed Hogg up today. Hogg's passing can be a little poor at times but he makes so many square balls and doesn't connect with the attack. We need drop the position or the player. We need attack minded players on the pitch. Even if we lost 2-3 I'd be happy to be scoring goals. Same match. I agree Chalobah was excellent today and was mostly all over the pitch. He’s a more positive player than Hogg, but he was playing the Mooy roll today. As he got tired(second half) he was nowhere near the box. Totally agree that we need to drop the position. The whole pass it around the back until Hoggy drops in between the CB’s to pick the ball up and carry it into the midfield is what slows us down. Our midfield need to be getting the ball in midfield, not at the CB position. |
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Post by deadleg on Aug 24, 2019 18:01:50 GMT 1
What's happened to Grant.? Had high hopes for him but he seems to have lost something.. I worry that there's a danger of the same thing happening to him that happened to Mounie and Depoitre after their first season. They initially came in and did pretty well feeding off the meagre scraps we fed them but eventually you're going to end up with no confidence or sharpness in front of goal playing up front in a team like ours. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 24, 2019 18:02:23 GMT 1
What's happened to Grant.? Had high hopes for him but he seems to have lost something.. Probably unfit, so has lost his sharpness |
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Post by smax on Aug 24, 2019 18:04:28 GMT 1
“David Moyes,over my dead body” said I 9 months ago. “Huddersfield Town,over my dead body” said David Moyes 9 minutes ago.
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Post by ACW on Aug 24, 2019 18:05:47 GMT 1
Apart from Pritchard, we have no creative midfielder. Hogg and Chalobah are great, but they create nothing. Our build up is so slow. Once again, we have a center forward marking 2 center backs. It’s Wagner ball all over again. You and me must have been watching a different game today. Chalobah was all over the midfield, made tackles, pushed players off the ball, made positive balls forward,moved into space. He showed Hogg up today. Hogg's passing can be a little poor at times but he makes so many square balls and doesn't connect with the attack. We need drop the position or the player. We need attack minded players on the pitch. Even if we lost 2-3 I'd be happy to be scoring goals. I thought Chalobah was excellent again today, and some of his passing was very progressive. If I was going to drop one of Hogg or Chalobah at the moment it would be Hogg. And it wouldn't be a particularly hard decision based on the last two games either. |
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Post by leemorris on Aug 24, 2019 18:06:41 GMT 1
You and me must have been watching a different game today. Chalobah was all over the midfield, made tackles, pushed players off the ball, made positive balls forward,moved into space. He showed Hogg up today. Hogg's passing can be a little poor at times but he makes so many square balls and doesn't connect with the attack. We need drop the position or the player. We need attack minded players on the pitch. Even if we lost 2-3 I'd be happy to be scoring goals. Same match. I agree Chalobah was excellent today and was mostly all over the pitch. He’s a more positive player than Hogg, but he was playing the Mooy roll today. As he got tired(second half) he was nowhere near the box. Totally agree that we need to drop the position. The whole pass it around the back until Hoggy drops in between the CB’s to pick the ball up and carry it into the midfield is what slows us down. Our midfield need to be getting the ball in midfield, not at the CB position. I didn't seeing him.dropping off that much to be honest but 100% agree with how slow we are to play it out from the back. For a solid 20 minutes all I was was Kongola pass it to Schindler, Schindler pass it to Flo and then Diakabhy not being in a position to receive the ball. We are so predictable. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 24, 2019 18:07:21 GMT 1
What's happened to Grant.? Had high hopes for him but he seems to have lost something.. He's still a bit raw at times and I was expecting a little better from him but he is isolated with sod all service. |
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of the Prem. Anne signs stuff and sends letters, to a different organising body for a couple of years but hey. Winter avoids most things. The accountant knows where the Prem money has gone. Nobody is taking any responsibility for this shit. Just covering their own corner and hiding. Hodginkson has been sold a pup with a kennel full of shit dogs. 
