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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 18:09:16 GMT 1
It's confirmation that DH is a good businessman that he sold at the right time.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 24, 2019 18:10:06 GMT 1
We have to play shite like Mounie ,Bacuna ,Prichard ,Mbenza, and Flo because funds that were required to replace last seasons retained crap were said to have been already spent on past Transfer Fees /wages etc when Hoyle was in charge
These players lack ability,a basic footballing brain , and close ball control which is just for starters
Where the f--k has all that premier league money gone ie
The so often mentioned £200 million for winning the play off final .
This seasons part parachute payment .
The millions town got for Smith and Billing,
Near full house premier league gate reciepts over two seasons
Sponsorship money over two seasons
Sky TV money again over two seasons etc etc etc.
How much did this lot add up to.
Town did not seem to spend big on players/wages/bonuses in both seasons ,and you would have thought all the above cash would have seen the club right for many a year to come without being in debt to anybody
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Post by yorkshiretripod on Aug 24, 2019 18:11:18 GMT 1
What's happened to Grant.? Had high hopes for him but he seems to have lost something.. I worry that there's a danger of the same thing happening to him that happened to Mounie and Depoitre after their first season. They initially came in and did pretty well feeding off the meagre scraps we fed them but eventually you're going to end up with no confidence or sharpness in front of goal playing up front in a team like ours. Which is why he chose to for goal with that breakaway chance in the second half when Diakhaby may have been a better option. He's a striker judged on goals, and any slight opportunity he gets, he will try and score. Our system for ages (and I include Wagner's entire tenure here), has never been conducive to having a 20 goal a season striker. Its high-time the system was modified by pushing the positions further up the pitch. Maintain a decent defensive line, but get the intricate passing 20 yards further up the pitch. |
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Post by Mecha Corte on Aug 24, 2019 18:12:43 GMT 1
Best performance of the season so far,
Worst opposition of the season so far,
Worst result of the season so far.
It feels like the club has been cursed, just can't see how we are going to start winning matches again.
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Post by ambryboy on Aug 24, 2019 18:13:48 GMT 1
Certainly no point having a left back and not playing him regardless of his lack of experience. This set up gives me a modicum of hope for today. Presumably you didn’t see him against Lincoln? I did and I thought he did alright today. |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 24, 2019 18:15:29 GMT 1
It's confirmation that DH is a good businessman that he sold at the right time. Businessman first --- town fan second The club are now paying big time for Hoyles and Wagners mistakes mainly from last season Those pre spent paracute payments were vital for this seasons re building Shame most of those retained so called premier league quality retained signings arnt even conference standard I witnessed similar after the 70s flop ,and just hope town dont make the same mistakes |
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Post by rastrick32 on Aug 24, 2019 18:17:39 GMT 1
What's happened to Grant.? Had high hopes for him but he seems to have lost something.. He's still a bit raw at times and I was expecting a little better from him but he is isolated with sod all service. But....and dare I say this.....he is not even doing the basics right. The ball never sticks, he doesn't run the channels, he rarely gambles, particularly front post and he's starting to point fingers at team mates. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 18:21:31 GMT 1
Apart from Pritchard, we have no creative midfielder. Hogg and Chalobah are great, but they create nothing. Our build up is so slow. Once again, we have a center forward marking 2 center backs. It’s Wagner ball all over again. You and me must have been watching a different game today. Chalobah was all over the midfield, made tackles, pushed players off the ball, made positive balls forward,moved into space. He showed Hogg up today. Hogg's passing can be a little poor at times but he makes so many square balls and doesn't connect with the attack. We need drop the position or the player. We need attack minded players on the pitch. Even if we lost 2-3 I'd be happy to be scoring goals. chalobah had a good game and it just shows the total lack of football knowledge of some on here |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 24, 2019 18:24:16 GMT 1
He's still a bit raw at times and I was expecting a little better from him but he is isolated with sod all service. But....and dare I say this.....he is not even doing the basics right. The ball never sticks, he doesn't run the channels, he rarely gambles, particularly front post and he's starting to point fingers at team mates. There is that, during the first half think it was Hogg, might have been Cholobah who played a lovely ball to him in the air and he let it fly over his head out for a throw in. |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 24, 2019 18:24:57 GMT 1
What's happened to Grant.? Had high hopes for him but he seems to have lost something.. Probably unfit, so has lost his sharpness I bet he cant believe where we are and where Charlton are. I know I cant. He looks as though he has bulked up a bit but generally I think he should be playing off a main man in a 3 or a 2 and that is the issue. |
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Post by rastrick32 on Aug 24, 2019 18:25:32 GMT 1
You and me must have been watching a different game today. Chalobah was all over the midfield, made tackles, pushed players off the ball, made positive balls forward,moved into space. He showed Hogg up today. Hogg's passing can be a little poor at times but he makes so many square balls and doesn't connect with the attack. We need drop the position or the player. We need attack minded players on the pitch. Even if we lost 2-3 I'd be happy to be scoring goals. chalobah had a good game and it just shows the total lack of football knowledge of some on here Why do you say this? I think everybody agrees that Chalobah had a decent game. Has anybody said anything different? |
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Post by zmann on Aug 24, 2019 18:31:11 GMT 1
Positives:
-Trev looks a real player
-Solid debut from Brown particularly when walking tightrope on a yellow
-Pritchard lively, moved ball quickly and we created some chances
Negatives:
-No plan B when we conceded. Frazier and Mbenza did nothing
-Set pieces abysmal
-Grant can’t hold ball up
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 18:36:52 GMT 1
Can't fault the effort, the tackling, the closing down and most of the passing. Just no cut in the final third. We do not seem to be able to take a corner or a free kick that threatens the opposition. The one we did I think Schindler headed wide. When a ball was played through the channels we had no runners or if we had runners the ball was not played or miss hit.
I don't know how you fix that but it is the only thing we really were poor at today.
As a postscript I don't think I want to see Mbenza play again unless he grows a pair. He was so poor Campbell came over and told him to move inside because he was hopeless out wide.
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Post by Galpharmer on Aug 24, 2019 18:37:36 GMT 1
Positives: -Trev looks a real player -Solid debut from Brown particularly when walking tightrope on a yellow -Pritchard lively, moved ball quickly and we created some chances Negatives: -No plan B when we conceded. Frazier and Mbenza did nothing -Set pieces abysmal -Grant can’t hold ball up Three VLP corners in a row landed in the same spot by a variety of means. Nobody there three times out if three. We seem shocked if we clear the front man. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Aug 24, 2019 18:40:02 GMT 1
Another futile trek up for bugger all. Yes, a kind of gegenpressing reappeared for a while but we are uttterly toothless up front, don’t have a clue how to create chances inside the box. Null goals yet again, i’m sick and tired of no goals. Haven’t seen Town score twice in a game since WBA away two seasons ago. Eight goals scored in my last 30 games and three of them penalties.
I despair. I have no faith in this Board making the decisions needed to stop this fiasco getting worse. They are reaping what they sow with their incompetence, lack of ambition and lack of planning.
There are some Town “players” I actually resent now, I just want them to fuck off.
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Post by impact on Aug 24, 2019 18:40:34 GMT 1
Chalobah at fault for both goals.
Ball watching for the 1st whilst his man coasts past him. Keeper probably should have done better.
For the 2nd he stands still and gets in Schindler's way for the corner, and ends up marking no one.
Grant also messed up 2 glorious opportunities. That one with Diakhaby outside him was terrible awareness. He hasn't been on it all year, but the lack of competition means he'll keep starting.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 24, 2019 18:47:09 GMT 1
Can’t fault the effort today but we didn’t carry enough of a goal threat and the fitness is criminally bad for elite athletes at the start of the season
We’re are now reaping the shocking decision to give JS the preseason to “prepare” the side
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 24, 2019 19:00:10 GMT 1
Another futile trek up for bugger all. Yes, a kind of gegenpressing reappeared for a while but we are uttterly toothless up front, don’t have a clue how to create chances inside the box. Null goals yet again, i’m sick and tired of no goals. Haven’t seen Town score twice in a game since WBA away two seasons ago. Eight goals scored in my last 30 games and three of them penalties. I despair. I have no faith in this Board making the decisions needed to stop this fiasco getting worse. They are reaping what they sow with their incompetence, lack of ambition and lack of planning. There are some Town “players” I actually resent now, I just want them to fuck off. Sadly there doesnt seem to be any money in the pot to replace the resented as Hoyle is calling in his club loan making it a non existant part parachute payment. Hoyle was part of the set up who wasted club money on the retained crap players , and there is no manager on the planet who could do much with the present dreadful squad who mainly lack championship quality ability ,a basic footballing brain , and ball control Wagner walked ,Siewert failed ,and Hudson off to a poor start wit 2 defeats from 2 matches Surely this is not rocket science. |
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Post by Manx Terrier on Aug 24, 2019 19:01:40 GMT 1
chalobah had a good game and it just shows the total lack of football knowledge of some on here Why do you say this? I think everybody agrees that Chalobah had a decent game. Has anybody said anything different? I was wondering this. I must have missed the grumbles about Chalobah. His response will be interesting. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2019 19:13:46 GMT 1
Positives: -Trev looks a real player -Solid debut from Brown particularly when walking tightrope on a yellow -Pritchard lively, moved ball quickly and we created some chances Negatives: -No plan B when we conceded. Frazier and Mbenza did nothing -Set pieces abysmal -Grant can’t hold ball up Someone explain to me what RVLP brought to the game/team today - please |
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Post by buxtonboys101 on Aug 24, 2019 19:20:03 GMT 1
It said on Radio Leeds today that the team are not fit enough and it was additted by our new Chairman. Apparently for some reason which I can't fathom Wagner's double training sessions were stopped but are not coming back. They cold have been stopped by Seiwert as he wanted the players on the training ground so he could get across his ideas. So, a good idea that was. In effect, it means out club is not yet ready for the season. Wonderful! But the hunt for a manager begins tomorrow, although Seiwert was sacked last week. They are going to interview the British candidates starting tomorrow but won't release names as some are still employed by other clubs. Does that mean the brothers Cowley from Lincoln? There are conditions though and one of them is that the candidates must have five years experience of managing an 'elite' league. I don't know wha that means and it could mean the Cowley brothers are out as they are from non league and League two. Anyway Lincoln lost today so their bubble has burst. Strange, mention Town and it all goes pear shaped. Sounds familiar. Can't we start a rumour we are interviewing Bielsa?
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Post by rastrick32 on Aug 24, 2019 19:22:19 GMT 1
Positives: -Trev looks a real player -Solid debut from Brown particularly when walking tightrope on a yellow -Pritchard lively, moved ball quickly and we created some chances Negatives: -No plan B when we conceded. Frazier and Mbenza did nothing -Set pieces abysmal -Grant can’t hold ball up Someone explain to me what RVLP brought to the game/team today - please I thought he was OK first half. Neat and tidy and kept things ticking over. He drove one ball across the six yard box that was begging for someone to gamble on near post. But....we don't gamble. |
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Post by theroyal on Aug 24, 2019 19:24:39 GMT 1
Worst opposition of the season so far We did what we needed to, to be honest. Soaked up pressure, let you tire yourselves out and went for the win towards the end. It's exactly what we faced when Stam was in charge, once teams had sussed us out. We've been excellent recently, with two wins and a draw against two relegated Premier League sides and a promotion favourite, scoring 6, conceding 1. Best of luck for the rest of the season (except in the reverse fixture!) |
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Post by huddstownonly on Aug 24, 2019 19:24:42 GMT 1
Positives: -Trev looks a real player -Solid debut from Brown particularly when walking tightrope on a yellow -Pritchard lively, moved ball quickly and we created some chances Negatives: -No plan B when we conceded. Frazier and Mbenza did nothing -Set pieces abysmal -Grant can’t hold ball up Someone explain to me what RVLP brought to the game/team today - please When he was on Reading had two men marking him an as a result our better passages of play where when he was on the pitch ..... his leaving brought the defeat - he went off and Rading scored twice |
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Post by Kenny irons on Aug 24, 2019 19:25:23 GMT 1
1st half we played OK but without really creating much. Second half you could see so many tired body's it was so evident.
Chalobah is a great find and a special mention to young jaden brown did himself no harm today UTT
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Post by jonnyboy on Aug 24, 2019 19:43:52 GMT 1
The vlp haters, did you go? The guy was the pick of the bunch until he went off. He is quality and tried to make something happen. Until we started to run out of steam and conceded when new guy didn’t have the engine to press we had shape balance and a plan. Don’t let the haters say otherwise. This was much much better until we conceded then confidence went. Needed to score first half really.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 24, 2019 19:47:18 GMT 1
Worst opposition of the season so far We did what we needed to, to be honest. Soaked up pressure, let you tire yourselves out and went for the win towards the end. It's exactly what we faced when Stam was in charge, once teams had sussed us out. We've been excellent recently, with two wins and a draw against two relegated Premier League sides and a promotion favourite, scoring 6, conceding 1. Best of luck for the rest of the season (except in the reverse fixture!) I thought we were excellent in the first half and they looked to be only one winner but at the flick of a switch you came back in to the game by hitting the bar and it was a different game after that. I wouldn't say you deserved to win but you buried the chances. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Aug 24, 2019 19:51:24 GMT 1
Worst opposition of the season so far We did what we needed to, to be honest. Soaked up pressure, let you tire yourselves out and went for the win towards the end. It's exactly what we faced when Stam was in charge, once teams had sussed us out. We've been excellent recently, with two wins and a draw against two relegated Premier League sides and a promotion favourite, scoring 6, conceding 1. Best of luck for the rest of the season (except in the reverse fixture!) Good luck to you too fella. We won the previous game, you won this one. (I bet you would swap) 👍 |
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Post by CanaryIsleTerrier on Aug 24, 2019 20:11:35 GMT 1
At least the cricket was a little better today.
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Post by mids on Aug 24, 2019 20:15:14 GMT 1
Wagner signed these retained " OVERPRICED " wankers. and Hoyle must have signed them off Both the above mentioned have walked , and sadly the parachute payments required to replace the failed shite seem to be going with them . Bottom line is Wagner and Hoyle were responsible for bringing in shite , and now Hoyle wants the club to pay him back with funds that were vital to replace his and Wagners shit failed signings. Sadly players like Mounie ,Mbenza, Flo,Prichard, Bacuna have become the strength of the first team , and how worrying is that The club need to bring in a quality manager now before this club goes down the Sunderland route ,and we will have both Hoyle and Wagner to thank for that It will be January when the fate of the club will be decided ,and Hoyle needs to help the club out mainly due to last seasons dreadful errors. The forever failing Hudson should have been booted out with Siewert Your thought process is even more fooked up than I thought. You're clearly a fuckwit. God help you. |
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