Shouty man and Potless.

[alex]

Someone told me a fan was stood up hurling abuse at PP for a few good minutes. Anyone see this?

[El Mel]

Heard it plain as day on the RL commentary.

He was giving him both barrels to be fair to the bloke.

[townrwe]

Aug 25, 2019 9:22:19 GMT 1 alex said:

Someone told me a fan was stood up hurling abuse at PP for a few good minutes. Anyone see this?

If we sell mounie this week there may be a few more doing it by the wednesday game.

Hudson's formation is crying out for mounie, youd have to sneak grant in playing on the right which would be ashame, but we bought mounie to play CF for this formations and and we are selling him just as we return to it.....potless phil is also clueless phil.

[slackjaw]

Yes I saw and heard it,basically he was asking where the money had gone,and that Phil was killing the club.All done very aggressively with one or two expletives thrown in for good measure.
Phil did well not to react but did look a bit shaken/embarrassed by it all,to be honest he doesn’t need that sort of abuse I actually felt for him.As chairman he can’t really fire back can he.

[ambryboy]

I love this thread title, it should be a Channel 5 documentary about tourettes amongst the disadvantaged!

[slackjaw]

Also if that’d have happened in the car park,shouty might have been trying to pick his teeth up with two broken arms! Big lump is Phil.

[overtonterrierspirit]

Aug 25, 2019 9:32:32 GMT 1 slackjaw said:

Also if that’d have happened in the car park,shouty might have been trying to pick his teeth up with two broken arms! Big lump is Phil.

This happened around the same time as a bloke with his young son walked down to the front and chucked his season card at Mark Hudson.

[overtonterrierspirit]

I thought from the thread title that it was about an angry Alan Carr.

[htfcfcfc]

Aug 25, 2019 9:25:51 GMT 1 El Mel said:

Heard it plain as day on the RL commentary.

He was giving him both barrels to be fair to the bloke.

Sounds like an absolute bellend. As if PH doesn’t realise there’s a problem.

Let’s see who he appoints as manager before throwing the dummy out of the pram. A decent manager would go some way to calming down these individuals.

A poor appointment and I fear for PH cause the place could turn toxic if this is anything to go by

[turbo2]

Aug 25, 2019 11:16:36 GMT 1 overtonterrierspirit said:

Aug 25, 2019 9:32:32 GMT 1 slackjaw said:

Also if that’d have happened in the car park,shouty might have been trying to pick his teeth up with two broken arms! Big lump is Phil.

This happened around the same time as a bloke with his young son walked down to the front and chucked his season card at Mark Hudson.

That prick only threw his sc case. All for show

[Headless Chicken]

Aug 25, 2019 13:00:32 GMT 1 turbo2 said:

Aug 25, 2019 11:16:36 GMT 1 overtonterrierspirit said:

This happened around the same time as a bloke with his young son walked down to the front and chucked his season card at Mark Hudson.

That prick only threw his sc case. All for show

What a prat.

Cancel his ST.

[jimmythebulldog]

Aug 25, 2019 9:28:33 GMT 1 townrwe said:

Aug 25, 2019 9:22:19 GMT 1 alex said:

Someone told me a fan was stood up hurling abuse at PP for a few good minutes. Anyone see this?

If we sell mounie this week there may be a few more doing it by the wednesday game.

Hudson's formation is crying out for mounie, youd have to sneak grant in playing on the right which would be ashame, but we bought mounie to play CF for this formations and and we are selling him just as we return to it.....potless phil is also clueless phil.

Were you watching a different Mounie to me last season ?


I wouldn't play him in an under-23s game.

[htafctaunton]

Aug 25, 2019 9:22:19 GMT 1 alex said:

Someone told me a fan was stood up hurling abuse at PP for a few good minutes. Anyone see this?

... didn't even know Paul Pogba played for us !

[willo]

Aug 25, 2019 12:44:18 GMT 1 htfcfcfc said:

Aug 25, 2019 9:25:51 GMT 1 El Mel said:

Heard it plain as day on the RL commentary.

He was giving him both barrels to be fair to the bloke.

Sounds like an absolute bellend. As if PH doesn’t realise there’s a problem.

Let’s see who he appoints as manager before throwing the dummy out of the pram. A decent manager would go some way to calming down these individuals.

A poor appointment and I fear for PH cause the place could turn toxic if this is anything to go by

Happened very close to us. Wouldn’t do it myself (I save all my abuse for the opposition & the lousy officials we get) but it was a passionate, coherent outburst from someone I have seen at games down the years so def not a daytripper. It sounded so loud because we’d just conceded & the crowd were down & the sound just carried. Have to say PH looked very ashen faced afterwards. Was he right? Well, you pays your money...

[royrace]

Aug 25, 2019 14:53:42 GMT 1 willo said:

Aug 25, 2019 12:44:18 GMT 1 htfcfcfc said:

Sounds like an absolute bellend. As if PH doesn’t realise there’s a problem.

Let’s see who he appoints as manager before throwing the dummy out of the pram. A decent manager would go some way to calming down these individuals.

A poor appointment and I fear for PH cause the place could turn toxic if this is anything to go by

Happened very close to us. Wouldn’t do it myself (I save all my abuse for the opposition & the lousy officials we get) but it was a passionate, coherent outburst from someone I have seen at games down the years so def not a daytripper. It sounded so loud because we’d just conceded & the crowd were down & the sound just carried. Have to say PH looked very ashen faced afterwards. Was he right? Well, you pays your money...

Seemed like he was asking where's the money gone from what I could hear on the radio so not a bad question to be fair to the guy.

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[htfcfcfc]

Aug 25, 2019 14:53:42 GMT 1 willo said:

Aug 25, 2019 12:44:18 GMT 1 htfcfcfc said:

Sounds like an absolute bellend. As if PH doesn’t realise there’s a problem.

Let’s see who he appoints as manager before throwing the dummy out of the pram. A decent manager would go some way to calming down these individuals.

A poor appointment and I fear for PH cause the place could turn toxic if this is anything to go by

Happened very close to us. Wouldn’t do it myself (I save all my abuse for the opposition & the lousy officials we get) but it was a passionate, coherent outburst from someone I have seen at games down the years so def not a daytripper. It sounded so loud because we’d just conceded & the crowd were down & the sound just carried. Have to say PH looked very ashen faced afterwards. Was he right? Well, you pays your money...

He was probably right with his concerns of the situation but not telling PH anything he didn’t know after 5 games and walking into this sh!tst0rm.

I’m not for one minute suggesting PH is totally blameless and a bit naive in his early stages in the role but I’ll reserve judgement based upon the new manager he appoints and then what happens firstly in January and then in the Summer.

I’m hoping manager appointment will lead to improved fitness, a few wins and us not getting cut adrift and the January window to bring in a couple of half decent loans to ensure we have a semi positive end to the season

Then over to PH to sanction some decent permanent signings who Webb will have had a chance to organise by his stage and a more competitive team on the pitch for next season

That’s the best case situation I can see in the short ish term

[Deleted]

I’m very very shocked. I saw the thread title and opened it expecting it to have been written by Nick. Kin hell are you related?

[Deleted]

No expletives were used from what I heard on the radio just a TOWN fan asking PH some very valid questions. Glennon's mic had to be turned off and Oggy tried to talk over what was going on but the most of the bloke's comments were heard. If things carry on the way they are, I can imagine many more incidents to follow unless PH starts delivering.

[Deleted]

If Phils ‘potless’ there must be a few on here that could buy him out, or perhaps the few hundred each may not be enough?

[Christ in Shades (art)]

I think the club have, despite good season ticket sales, seriously under estimated the mood of the fans after last season's debacle and the penny pinching transfers activity. He really needs to get this manager right to placate the fans or else they are going to hound him out of the club.

[jim59]

Aug 25, 2019 20:15:55 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

I think the club have, despite good season ticket sales, seriously under estimated the mood of the fans after last season's debacle and the penny pinching transfers activity. He really needs to get this manager right to placate the fans or else they are going to hound him out of the club.

I agree. I get the feeling that the hierarchy of the club have gone into hiding somewhat perhaps hoping for a couple of positive results to ease the pressure.

Now is the time for being open. I think our new Chairman needs to address the issues and explain as much as he can to the fans.

Specifically.

historic poor recruitment.

Apparent lack of funds suddenly

Why such a limited use of the loan market.

The elephant in the room how has he funded the purchase? On this one I suspect we won't get an answer.

[houllierspal]

I am a massive fan of Dean Hoyle and all he has done for Town, Premier League football is something I never expected to see in my lifetime so I just cannot see Dean selling the club to someone who has 'limited funds' as many seem to be saying but if this is the case shouldn't the questions/criticism be to Dean and not Phil?

[Deleted]

Aug 25, 2019 20:26:36 GMT 1 jim59 said:

Aug 25, 2019 20:15:55 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

I think the club have, despite good season ticket sales, seriously under estimated the mood of the fans after last season's debacle and the penny pinching transfers activity. He really needs to get this manager right to placate the fans or else they are going to hound him out of the club.

I agree. I get the feeling that the hierarchy of the club have gone into hiding somewhat perhaps hoping for a couple of positive results to ease the pressure.

Now is the time for being open. I think our new Chairman needs to address the issues and explain as much as he can to the fans.

Specifically.

historic poor recruitment.

Apparent lack of funds suddenly

Why such a limited use of the loan market.

The elephant in the room how has he funded the purchase? On this one I suspect we won't get an answer.

He obviously has enough money to purchase the club, to satisfy an astute businessman like DH, who would not let him raid the club to do so. My guess is that he is paying it 'on the drip' over three or four years, but this probably suits DH who wouldn't want to get it all in the same tax year anyway for obvious reasons.

What I suspect PH cannot afford is the £5m to £7m per year ongoing that it cost DH to subsidise the club when it wasn't receiving PL revenues of one sort or another.

I think PH is trying to build up a positive cash balance for when the parachute payments stop. IMHO he's taken a risk by doing too much too soon regarding player sales and wage bill reduction, and he is now in squeaky bum territory. 

He needs to accept his error, and be prepared to spend on a decent manager now, and 2 or 3 quality players in January, be they loans or permanent because the money is definitely there. How could it all be spent when we made a profit of £23m in 17/18, will probably make about the same in 18/19, and in 19/20 we have already sold £20m plus nett worth of players, and will also get parachute payments?

January is a difficult market, we all accept that because contracts run to June 30th, but we need to be identifying our targets now so we can move as soon after Jan 1st as possible.

One thing we will all find out is how good a coach the new man is, because he is going to have 4 months working with this squad, with no further additions.

[The-Crab]

I remember Dean Hoyle said he would only pass the reigns over if ever someone came along who could take it further than he could, so to sell to someone with fewer funds is baffling.

I know Dean left mainly for health reasons and we still have to see what Phil does but it does look like a huge backward step and not someone who can take us further than D.Hoyle could.

[willo]

Aug 25, 2019 20:15:55 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

I think the club have, despite good season ticket sales, seriously under estimated the mood of the fans after last season's debacle and the penny pinching transfers activity. He really needs to get this manager right to placate the fans or else they are going to hound him out of the club.

Art, this next management/coach appointment is crucial, huge really. If the club get it wrong again, I am fearful of the consequences.

[jim59]

Aug 25, 2019 20:46:18 GMT 1 @ixion said:

Aug 25, 2019 20:26:36 GMT 1 jim59 said:

I agree. I get the feeling that the hierarchy of the club have gone into hiding somewhat perhaps hoping for a couple of positive results to ease the pressure.

Now is the time for being open. I think our new Chairman needs to address the issues and explain as much as he can to the fans.

Specifically.

historic poor recruitment.

Apparent lack of funds suddenly

Why such a limited use of the loan market.

The elephant in the room how has he funded the purchase? On this one I suspect we won't get an answer.

He obviously has enough money to purchase the club, to satisfy an astute businessman like DH, who would not let him raid the club to do so. My guess is that he is paying it 'on the drip' over three or four years, but this probably suits DH who wouldn't want to get it all in the same tax year anyway for obvious reasons.

What I suspect PH cannot afford is the £5m to £7m per year ongoing that it cost DH to subsidise the club when it wasn't receiving PL revenues of one sort or another.

I think PH is trying to build up a positive cash balance for when the parachute payments stop. IMHO he's taken a risk by doing too much too soon regarding player sales and wage bill reduction, and he is now in squeaky bum territory. 

He needs to accept his error, and be prepared to spend on a decent manager now, and 2 or 3 quality players in January, be they loans or permanent because the money is definitely there. How could it all be spent when we made a profit of £23m in 17/18, will probably make about the same in 18/19, and in 19/20 we have already sold £20m plus nett worth of players, and will also get parachute payments?

January is a difficult market, we all accept that because contracts run to June 30th, but we need to be identifying our targets now so we can move as soon after Jan 1st as possible.

One thing we will all find out is how good a coach the new man is, because he is going to have 4 months working with this squad, with no further additions.

He may have had sufficient money to buy the shares on a nominal basis. However, Deans directors loans were outstanding. Dean could accept any price he wished for his private company shares. He has always had the right to demand repayment of directors loans. We are all trying to be nice about Deans achievements and accomplishments but maybe he has recalled his money?

Whilst we are all dancing around e subject a bit at the risk of pointing the finger it might be that Dean has decided to reclaim his funds. If hat is the case I just wish the board would be honest about it. At least we could accept where we stand.

I wonder if as part of the sale agreement this aspect is being kept within the club?

[yappledapple]

now

Aug 25, 2019 20:26:36 GMT 1 jim59 said:

Aug 25, 2019 20:15:55 GMT 1 Christ in Shades (art) said:

I think the club have, despite good season ticket sales, seriously under estimated the mood of the fans after last season's debacle and the penny pinching transfers activity. He really needs to get this manager right to placate the fans or else they are going to hound him out of the club.

I agree. I get the feeling that the hierarchy of the club have gone into hiding somewhat perhaps hoping for a couple of positive results to ease the pressure.

Now is the time for being open. I think our new Chairman needs to address the issues and explain as much as he can to the fans.

Specifically.

historic poor recruitment.

Apparent lack of funds suddenly

Why such a limited use of the loan market.

The elephant in the room how has he funded the purchase? On this one I suspect we won't get an answer.

At the Odeon Q&A with PH, he stood there in front of a fair few hundred Town fans and asked: Where are all the difficult questions? I personally took from that that he was expecting nosey Yorkshire folk to enquire about his personal wealth and how he was funding everything because the rumour mill was rife with titbits of him not having the money to do the deal.

No-one, myself included, asked the question. Every opportunity to ask was given and as I said, I think he was expecting it. I don't know what answer we would have got, probably a 'it's none of your business', but we all bottled it, so the elephant continues to be in the room regarding finances.

As it stands, only DH and PH know the real financial situation and we, as fans, can guess all we like but we don't know the real truth. We could have asked, but we didn't and as you suspect, we probably won't get the answer.

[tockyterrier]

Aug 25, 2019 19:45:20 GMT 1 @worthy1 said:

No expletives were used from what I heard on the radio just a TOWN fan asking PH some very valid questions. Glennon's mic had to be turned off and Oggy tried to talk over what was going on but the most of the bloke's comments were heard. If things carry on the way they are, I can imagine many more incidents to follow unless PH starts delivering.

How the hell can PH "start delivering"
He owns the majority of the club. He doesn't train the team, Pick the players, decide who to buy.

He's been in position cut around 10 weeks. The transfer window is shut and he Has to reduce the wage bill by around 50% inside 2 years.

There are a lot of uekess folk, calling him evening under the sun without giving him a chance. Even if they bet what they want and he leaves, who will take us on. Who will these and people decree is acceptable to spend £Ms of their own money on our hobby?

Grow up, & get a life.

[conman]

Aug 25, 2019 22:47:50 GMT 1 tockyterrier said:

Aug 25, 2019 19:45:20 GMT 1 @worthy1 said:

No expletives were used from what I heard on the radio just a TOWN fan asking PH some very valid questions. Glennon's mic had to be turned off and Oggy tried to talk over what was going on but the most of the bloke's comments were heard. If things carry on the way they are, I can imagine many more incidents to follow unless PH starts delivering.

How the hell can PH "start delivering"
He owns the majority of the club. He doesn't train the team, Pick the players, decide who to buy.

He's been in position cut around 10 weeks. The transfer window is shut and he Has to reduce the wage bill by around 50% inside 2 years.

There are a lot of uekess folk, calling him evening under the sun without giving him a chance. Even if they bet what they want and he leaves, who will take us on. Who will these and people decree is acceptable to spend £Ms of their own money on our hobby?

Grow up, & get a life.

I think it's more to do with the promises he made, then broke, that has got people's backs up. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion FFS..

[Tiro]

There are some feckless melts around the club at the moment. Short-term memories and grandiose opinions.

Don’t read. Don’t listen. Opinions are fact.

Sad times.