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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 10:10:36 GMT 1
We have spent less money in this transfer window than Stan Ternent had to spend in 2008 and you're telling me there's loads of money? Where are you coming from ? I am saying that I don't know how much money PH has or hasn't got . Whilst you appear to know exactly his financial status .Read posts correctly before posting answers! I can only go on what he has spent in this transfer window and the amount he has spent is pitiful especially when you consider what transfer fees have been brought in. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Aug 26, 2019 10:11:36 GMT 1
I think the club have, despite good season ticket sales, seriously under estimated the mood of the fans after last season's debacle and the penny pinching transfers activity. He really needs to get this manager right to placate the fans or else they are going to hound him out of the club. Art, this next management/coach appointment is crucial, huge really. If the club get it wrong again, I am fearful of the consequences. The problem is the fans expectations though. If we employed someone with a decent pedigree that most folk were happy with & we still headed south, there are some supporters who would just thrash out regardless. We need a win badly, but let's be mindful that we're still in a far better position than many other clubs. |
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Post by crux on Aug 26, 2019 10:11:49 GMT 1
If Phil has no money then all of us here are absolutely f*cking destitute then.
Apart from Otium obviously 😉😂
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 10:14:12 GMT 1
If PH told us how he's bought the club, he'd get the majority of people off his back, its the uncertainty which is getting to the supporters.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 10:14:47 GMT 1
Let me highlight what you appear to have missed. With apologies Sandy, I was a bit late. Not missed it, I just don't understand the happy-clappy nothing is wrong attitude that so many people on here seem to have. We are heading back to where we came from and no one seems to be doing anything about it, a lot of supporters seem even less concerned. And with regards to the guy asking PH some questions in the director's box, PH better get used to it because if we carry on as we are, there will be a lot more people doing the same. Barry Rubery had bricks thrown at him, David Taylor had weekly protests against him, Ken Davy was given abuse, death threats and one poster even posted his address on here. PH has got off lightly compared to these three former chairmen. So you will bet he forerunner at the next Q and A's session asking PH about his bank balance etc .Good luck with that ! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 10:16:03 GMT 1
Not missed it, I just don't understand the happy-clappy nothing is wrong attitude that so many people on here seem to have. We are heading back to where we came from and no one seems to be doing anything about it, a lot of supporters seem even less concerned. And with regards to the guy asking PH some questions in the director's box, PH better get used to it because if we carry on as we are, there will be a lot more people doing the same. Barry Rubery had bricks thrown at him, David Taylor had weekly protests against him, Ken Davy was given abuse, death threats and one poster even posted his address on here. PH has got off lightly compared to these three former chairmen. So you will bet he forerunner at the next Q and A's session asking PH about his bank balance etc .Good luck with that ! I was at the first Q&A, I asked a couple of questions and even spoke to PH afterwards, I bet you weren't there. |
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Post by thongsbridge on Aug 26, 2019 10:20:17 GMT 1
Maybe he (wisely) decided not to splurge the pot to support Jan, a manager that he didn't pick and probably didn't rate. Rather wait, get a decent DoF and new manager in and then use the pot to build a team.
Seems like a plan.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 10:20:49 GMT 1
Maybe he (wisely) decided not to splurge the pot to support Jan, a manager that he didn't pick and probably didn't rate. Rather wait, get a decent DoF and new manager in and then use the pot to build a team. If he didn't back him, he should have sacked him before a full pre-season was wasted. |
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Post by El Mel on Aug 26, 2019 10:22:20 GMT 1
Maybe he (wisely) decided not to splurge the pot to support Jan, a manager that he didn't pick and probably didn't rate. Rather wait, get a decent DoF and new manager in and then use the pot to build a team. Seems like a plan. Yep. It's the most obvious and sensible explanation. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 10:22:44 GMT 1
Spot on but then I have never been to any of them .
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 10:24:20 GMT 1
Maybe he (wisely) decided not to splurge the pot to support Jan, a manager that he didn't pick and probably didn't rate. Rather wait, get a decent DoF and new manager in and then use the pot to build a team. Seems like a plan. Simple isn't it 😁 |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 26, 2019 10:25:04 GMT 1
Art, this next management/coach appointment is crucial, huge really. If the club get it wrong again, I am fearful of the consequences. The problem is the fans expectations though. If we employed someone with a decent pedigree that most folk were happy with & we still headed south, there are some supporters who would just thrash out regardless. We need a win badly, but let's be mindful that we're still in a far better position than many other clubs. Expectations are high and rightly so. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 10:25:09 GMT 1
Maybe he (wisely) decided not to splurge the pot to support Jan, a manager that he didn't pick and probably didn't rate. Rather wait, get a decent DoF and new manager in and then use the pot to build a team. Seems like a plan. Yep. It's the most obvious and sensible explanation. Also simplistic and realistic 😁 |
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Post by thongsbridge on Aug 26, 2019 10:26:43 GMT 1
Maybe he (wisely) decided not to splurge the pot to support Jan, a manager that he didn't pick and probably didn't rate. Rather wait, get a decent DoF and new manager in and then use the pot to build a team. If he didn't back him, he should have sacked him before a full pre-season was wasted. I thought the timing was spot on. Jan was allowed to prove he was as useless in the championship as in the premiership. He gave him just enough time. |
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Post by Maynardblue on Aug 26, 2019 10:27:33 GMT 1
If PH told us how he's bought the club, he'd get the majority of people off his back, its the uncertainty which is getting to the supporters. What if Dean Hoyle insisted on non-disclosure agreements preventing the details being made public? Would that still be Phils fault?? |
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Post by E4b on Aug 26, 2019 10:28:35 GMT 1
I have a feeling that things just might be very different at the next meeting. Surprised we haven't heard when it is yet?!!! No doubt there will be loads of "big men" like you there . Like the "big man" who was hurling abuse into the directors box. Pathetic I am not like the chap hurling abuse at all, these days. So, to shove your own shite down your trap, Stop Guessing!!! |
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Post by Maynardblue on Aug 26, 2019 10:31:26 GMT 1
PH can't win really can he. He gets called 'potless' and people are appalled at his apparent lack of wealth
If he then decided to disclose that he is actually a multi millionaire and proper loaded people would still hammer him for not spending anything!
Like I've said previously, in the current climate he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't so might as well keep quiet.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 10:40:11 GMT 1
Not missed it, I just don't understand the happy-clappy nothing is wrong attitude that so many people on here seem to have. We are heading back to where we came from and no one seems to be doing anything about it, a lot of supporters seem even less concerned. And with regards to the guy asking PH some questions in the director's box, PH better get used to it because if we carry on as we are, there will be a lot more people doing the same. Barry Rubery had bricks thrown at him, David Taylor had weekly protests against him, Ken Davy was given abuse, death threats and one poster even posted his address on here. PH has got off lightly compared to these three former chairmen. So you will bet he forerunner at the next Q and A's session asking PH about his bank balance etc .Good luck with that ! Jeez these newbies don't half like to waffle on 😈 |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 10:43:29 GMT 1
No doubt there will be loads of "big men" like you there . Like the "big man" who was hurling abuse into the directors box. Pathetic I am not like the chap hurling abuse at all, these days. So, to shove your own shite down your trap, Stop Guessing!!! Once again, there was no abuse. |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Aug 26, 2019 10:50:08 GMT 1
Maybe he (wisely) decided not to splurge the pot to support Jan, a manager that he didn't pick and probably didn't rate. Rather wait, get a decent DoF and new manager in and then use the pot to build a team. Seems like a plan. If you ever have an option to believe a conspiracy theory or something’s a fuck up.... always believe it’s a fuck up. |
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Post by royrace on Aug 26, 2019 10:57:24 GMT 1
Maybe he (wisely) decided not to splurge the pot to support Jan, a manager that he didn't pick and probably didn't rate. Rather wait, get a decent DoF and new manager in and then use the pot to build a team. If he didn't back him, he should have sacked him before a full pre-season was wasted. Yes and what about bockhorn and the other cheap punts from a lower level. How do they fit into the plan? I'd like to think it were true but I doubt it and as has been said if he didn't rate him why not get rid rather than prise bell away from a job he was seemingly very happy with. I'm really not sure the money is earmarked for investment in the team. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by htfc1908 on Aug 26, 2019 10:57:29 GMT 1
PH can't win really can he. He gets called 'potless' and people are appalled at his apparent lack of wealth If he then decided to disclose that he is actually a multi millionaire and proper loaded people would still hammer him for not spending anything! Like I've said previously, in the current climate he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't so might as well keep quiet. Everything that he said at the Q&A got twisted or taken out of context anyway so I don't expect him doing another anytime soon. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 11:36:51 GMT 1
If PH told us how he's bought the club, he'd get the majority of people off his back, its the uncertainty which is getting to the supporters. The uncertainty is caused by baseless rumors and people calling him potless Phill. Its immature and stupid. There is no way DH who has done so much for the club would sell to someone without the funds to keep things going. He knows that money will have to be put in just to keep the club afloat because he did it for years. In the interview on YouTube Phil indicated that he knew what the club costs to run, but all we hear is he has no money, he was given the club, he is using future parachute payments to buy DH out and pay him back ALL the money he ever invested. I find it hard to believe DH would sell to someone ill equipped to take it on, and I would be shocked if he had asked for all his money back as part of the deal. Maybe some of it, over time, but not at a rate that would cripple the club financially. Having said all that, I am frustrated at team affairs and yes I do think a specialist left back should have been bought in. However maybe Jan was unable to attract anyone worth signing and Phil did not want to waste more money on German lower division players who were a long shot? Who knows. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 11:41:12 GMT 1
If PH told us how he's bought the club, he'd get the majority of people off his back, its the uncertainty which is getting to the supporters. The uncertainty is caused by baseless rumors and people calling him potless Phill. Its immature and stupid. There is no way DH who has done so much for the club would sell to someone without the funds to keep things going. He knows that money will have to be put in just to keep the club afloat because he did it for years. In the interview on YouTube Phil indicated that he knew what the club costs to run, but all we hear is he has no money, he was given the club, he is using future parachute payments to buy DH out and pay him back ALL the money he ever invested. I find it hard to believe DH would sell to someone ill equipped to take it on, and I would be shocked if he had asked for all his money back as part of the deal. Maybe some of it, over time, but not at a rate that would cripple the club financially. Having said all that, I am frustrated at team affairs and yes I do think a specialist left back should have been bought in. However maybe Jan was unable to attract anyone worth signing and Phil did not want to waste more money on German lower division players who were a long shot? Who knows. So basically, all your points are actually based on blind faith? |
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Post by Maynardblue on Aug 26, 2019 11:48:41 GMT 1
The uncertainty is caused by baseless rumors and people calling him potless Phill. Its immature and stupid. There is no way DH who has done so much for the club would sell to someone without the funds to keep things going. He knows that money will have to be put in just to keep the club afloat because he did it for years. In the interview on YouTube Phil indicated that he knew what the club costs to run, but all we hear is he has no money, he was given the club, he is using future parachute payments to buy DH out and pay him back ALL the money he ever invested. I find it hard to believe DH would sell to someone ill equipped to take it on, and I would be shocked if he had asked for all his money back as part of the deal. Maybe some of it, over time, but not at a rate that would cripple the club financially. Having said all that, I am frustrated at team affairs and yes I do think a specialist left back should have been bought in. However maybe Jan was unable to attract anyone worth signing and Phil did not want to waste more money on German lower division players who were a long shot? Who knows. So basically, all your points are actually based on blind faith? Trust is very different from faith |
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Post by E4b on Aug 26, 2019 11:53:25 GMT 1
I am not like the chap hurling abuse at all, these days. So, to shove your own shite down your trap, Stop Guessing!!! Once again, there was no abuse. Not surprised, sounds like Chips getting over excited again! |
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Post by E4b on Aug 26, 2019 11:56:41 GMT 1
If PH told us how he's bought the club, he'd get the majority of people off his back, its the uncertainty which is getting to the supporters. The uncertainty is caused by baseless rumors and people calling him potless Phill. Its immature and stupid. There is no way DH who has done so much for the club would sell to someone without the funds to keep things going. He knows that money will have to be put in just to keep the club afloat because he did it for years. In the interview on YouTube Phil indicated that he knew what the club costs to run, but all we hear is he has no money, he was given the club, he is using future parachute payments to buy DH out and pay him back ALL the money he ever invested. I find it hard to believe DH would sell to someone ill equipped to take it on, and I would be shocked if he had asked for all his money back as part of the deal. Maybe some of it, over time, but not at a rate that would cripple the club financially. Having said all that, I am frustrated at team affairs and yes I do think a specialist left back should have been bought in. However maybe Jan was unable to attract anyone worth signing and Phil did not want to waste more money on German lower division players who were a long shot? Who knows. Agree with all this but in these days of ‘transparency’ it would be good if we don’t have to keep on using words such as ‘who knows’. It would be a major improvement if anyone had any idea whatsoever on just what’s going on. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 12:34:56 GMT 1
Shame he's not called Philpot......:-)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 13:12:59 GMT 1
The uncertainty is caused by baseless rumors and people calling him potless Phill. Its immature and stupid. There is no way DH who has done so much for the club would sell to someone without the funds to keep things going. He knows that money will have to be put in just to keep the club afloat because he did it for years. In the interview on YouTube Phil indicated that he knew what the club costs to run, but all we hear is he has no money, he was given the club, he is using future parachute payments to buy DH out and pay him back ALL the money he ever invested. I find it hard to believe DH would sell to someone ill equipped to take it on, and I would be shocked if he had asked for all his money back as part of the deal. Maybe some of it, over time, but not at a rate that would cripple the club financially. Having said all that, I am frustrated at team affairs and yes I do think a specialist left back should have been bought in. However maybe Jan was unable to attract anyone worth signing and Phil did not want to waste more money on German lower division players who were a long shot? Who knows. So basically, all your points are actually based on blind faith? No its mainly based on DH and his long record at Town and doing the best for the club which some people seem to have completely forgotten. I am willing to give Phil a chance but I do think who gets appointed as manager will tell us a lot about our current level of ambition and priorities. |
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Post by royrace on Aug 26, 2019 13:24:21 GMT 1
So basically, all your points are actually based on blind faith? No its mainly based on DH and his long record at Town and doing the best for the club which some people seem to have completely forgotten. I am willing to give Phil a chance but I do think who gets appointed as manager will tell us a lot about our current level of ambition and priorities. Ever considered that Dean's criteria for a good owner to take over may differ wildly from most fans? Lots to take into account for Dean including long term stability, deal structure, his involvement going forward etc etc. Phil is as big a fan see Dean, doesn't mean they're gonna make perfect decisions or have aspirations that match the fans. It's not easy to dispose of a football club, especially when you're in a hurry and your priorities have just changed massively. I would imagine there were no perfect deals as far as Dean was concerned. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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