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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 10:03:09 GMT 1
Chalobah replaced Mooy.............Elphick for Zanka................Brown was earmarked for the left back slot when he was bought. Schofield for Hamer and we already had Flo in the building so Smith was a good deal at nearly 4m. We can argue all day about the merits of the replacements and their quality...........or lack of, but what he said was players had a replacement lined up - and they have had. It's a cop out. Jeez give it a rest 😈 |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Aug 27, 2019 11:06:36 GMT 1
Heard an interesting rumour on Saturday. Have no way to verify it but absolutely believe it and the guy who told be has an impeccable source close the centre of things.
Bournemouth initially offered us £7m for Billing and PH was going to accept, until Dean Hoyle intervened.
If this is true (and I believe it is, 100%) it tells me a few things. Firstly, PH has no idea what he is doing. Secondly, Dean still cares and will leap into action if needed. Thirdly, Phil has no idea what he is doing. (This needed repeating)
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Post by wigster on Aug 27, 2019 11:08:54 GMT 1
They were not playing for Dave, they would not play for Jan and they are still not doing enough for Mark. The common denominator here is the players. They failed to impress enough in the last season to get themselves a move and it's become a self pitying, self absorbed carry on. We are stuck till January and even then it's gonna take some bollocks to offload some and take a hit. So Mr Shouty will have some more shouting to do but he will be doing it at the wrong person until he has enough time or leeway to sort out the big problems.? Sack the board. Bring in Allardyce, get a fucking faith healer in, makes no difference till the chairman and the manager has some fucking leverage over the big earners who are failing to earn their money. Excellent post - we know who the big earners are but what annoys me is that they are actually not very good. I've been waiting for certain players - can't be bothered naming them but we all know them - to come good or repeat their one half-season of decent end product (in one case his one 15 minutes...)and it hasn't happened. It now hasn't happened under more than one manager and more than one system. I can't blame the players - keep taking the money - and as the poster says we're going to have to take a massive hit to move these on. Nobody has wanted them yet - let's hope we don't have to wait till their crippling contracts run out... |
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Post by Maynardblue on Aug 27, 2019 12:54:48 GMT 1
Heard an interesting rumour on Saturday. Have no way to verify it but absolutely believe it and the guy who told be has an impeccable source close the centre of things. Bournemouth initially offered us £7m for Billing and PH was going to accept, until Dean Hoyle intervened. If this is true (and I believe it is, 100%) it tells me a few things. Firstly, PH has no idea what he is doing. Secondly, Dean still cares and will leap into action if needed. Thirdly, Phil has no idea what he is doing. (This needed repeating) More fake news. Lots of it about currently |
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Post by benhomly on Aug 27, 2019 12:56:50 GMT 1
Heard an interesting rumour on Saturday. Have no way to verify it but absolutely believe it and the guy who told be has an impeccable source close the centre of things. Bournemouth initially offered us £7m for Billing and PH was going to accept, until Dean Hoyle intervened. If this is true (and I believe it is, 100%) it tells me a few things. Firstly, PH has no idea what he is doing. Secondly, Dean still cares and will leap into action if needed. Thirdly, Phil has no idea what he is doing. (This needed repeating) If it is true remind us again who approached PH to take the reins? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 13:04:08 GMT 1
Heard an interesting rumour on Saturday. Have no way to verify it but absolutely believe it and the guy who told be has an impeccable source close the centre of things. Bournemouth initially offered us £7m for Billing and PH was going to accept, until Dean Hoyle intervened. If this is true (and I believe it is, 100%) it tells me a few things. Firstly, PH has no idea what he is doing. Secondly, Dean still cares and will leap into action if needed. Thirdly, Phil has no idea what he is doing. (This needed repeating) More fake news. Lots of it about currently agree a load of bull |
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Post by mrg on Aug 27, 2019 13:44:01 GMT 1
Heard an interesting rumour on Saturday. Have no way to verify it but absolutely believe it and the guy who told be has an impeccable source close the centre of things. Bournemouth initially offered us £7m for Billing and PH was going to accept, until Dean Hoyle intervened. If this is true (and I believe it is, 100%) it tells me a few things. Firstly, PH has no idea what he is doing. Secondly, Dean still cares and will leap into action if needed. Thirdly, Phil has no idea what he is doing. (This needed repeating) Maybe he doesn't sell big ticket items. Mistakes at a lower level are made and DH will admit hes made a few, of course when you get into a totally new market acting like you know what you are doing can be more than a little mistake. Thank God DH still has 25%. |
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Post by brodie81 on Aug 27, 2019 13:48:05 GMT 1
I can’t believe no one has identified/outed who ‘mr shouty’ was
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Post by Manx Terrier on Aug 27, 2019 13:52:12 GMT 1
I am a massive fan of Dean Hoyle and all he has done for Town, Premier League football is something I never expected to see in my lifetime so I just cannot see Dean selling the club to someone who has 'limited funds' as many seem to be saying but if this is the case shouldn't the questions/criticism be to Dean and not Phil? If Phil is just a fan with no money then any criticism of Phil should be extremely limited or nil. He just acted on bad advice over the appointment of the manager and the sale of players and recruitment- probably from people in the club. Obviously the Directors were involved ? Dean ? It's Dean as a director and part owner who should be answering all the questions. No abuse.... but please where has all the money gone or going and what will the purchase have cost Phil ? Wasn't Dean staying as a director supposed to safeguard the good standing of the club ? I thought it was meant to anyway. |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 27, 2019 14:16:07 GMT 1
When Hoyle sold the club he had to somehow value his business assets before being sold which must have included the market value for players etc which included over priced crap like Mounie Then there were reports at the start of the season that the transfer pot was empty which must have included the millions from the first incoming part parachute payment plus the near £18 million the club recieved for Billing and Smith. Then there were reports that the pot was empty due to money pre spent in wages/bonuses etc in the premier league days under both Hoyle and Wagner. Then there were reports that Hoyle had given the club a £50 million loan The big question to many was ---- could the retained badly failed premier league flops who contributed to this debt give the club some kind of advantage in the championship ,and the answer to that question at the moment is a clearly NO. Three managers including one temporary have failed badly So shouty man was asking where all the premier league money had gone IE A well reported £200 million just for winning the play off final TV money over 2 seasons mainly SKY 2 seasons near full house gate reciepts 20,000 crowds PLU sponsorship money which include shirts advertising etc etc League finishing position money Millions in the first part parachute payment which seems to have been pre spent A reported £18 MILLION for Billing and Smith which seems to have been pre spent Plus others not mentioned SO THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT DOES THIS LOT ADD UP TO , AND WHAT WERE THE TOTAL OUTGOINGS ??  Maybe those doubting shouty mans question can answer this as i for one would be very interested to know ,and will eventually be answered in the club audit |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 27, 2019 14:19:58 GMT 1
I am a massive fan of Dean Hoyle and all he has done for Town, Premier League football is something I never expected to see in my lifetime so I just cannot see Dean selling the club to someone who has 'limited funds' as many seem to be saying but if this is the case shouldn't the questions/criticism be to Dean and not Phil? It's Dean as a director and part owner who should be answering all the questions. No abuse.... but please where has all the money gone or going and what will the purchase have cost Phil It’s been made crystal clear, time and time again regarding money. The club is financially sound for some time. If players left late in the window (Mooy) they would be replaced in January. They are aiming for a ‘1 in, 1 out’ policy, though this isn’t specifically EVERY player, a general aim. There isn’t a magical pot full of gold coins that has suddenly disappeared. Its not black and white with one word answers. Why do you care what the purchase has cost Phil and how would this affect your match day experience at 3pm on a Saturday? Is a certain amount the right answer? Nothing, £50 million, £100. Loose Women have nothing on this board. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 14:33:34 GMT 1
When Hoyle sold the club he had to somehow value his business assets before being sold which must have included the market value for players etc which included over priced crap like Mounie Then there were reports at the start of the season that the transfer pot was empty which must have included the millions from the first incoming part parachute payment plus the near £18 million the club recieved for Billing and Smith. Then there were reports that the pot was empty due to money pre spent in wages/bonuses etc in the premier league days under both Hoyle and Wagner. Then there were reports that Hoyle had given the club a £50 million loanThe big question to many was ---- could the retained badly failed premier league flops who contributed to this debt give the club some kind of advantage in the championship ,and the answer to that question at the moment is a clearly NO. Three managers including one temporary have failed badly So shouty man was asking where all the premier league money had gone IE A well reported £200 million just for winning the play off final TV money over 2 seasons mainly SKY 2 seasons near full house gate reciepts 20,000 crowds PLU sponsorship money which include shirts advertising etc etc League finishing position money Millions in the first part parachute payment which seems to have been pre spent A reported £18 MILLION for Billing and Smith which seems to have been pre spent Plus others not mentioned SO THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT DOES THIS LOT ADD UP TO , AND WHAT WERE THE TOTAL OUTGOINGS ?? Maybe those doubting shouty mans question can answer this as i for one would be very interested to know ,and will eventually be answered in the club audit You haven't even get that right! £15 million. |
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Post by Manx Terrier on Aug 27, 2019 14:35:16 GMT 1
So you know absolutely nothing and don't care. Great.
Not directed at you Coddington !!
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 27, 2019 14:40:40 GMT 1
So you know absolutely nothing and don't care. Great. Not directed at you Coddington !! To be honest Manx I’ve listed at least 3 more actual facts in that one post than your last 20 posts combined. |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Aug 27, 2019 15:16:24 GMT 1
When Hoyle sold the club he had to somehow value his business assets before being sold which must have included the market value for players etc which included over priced crap like Mounie Then there were reports at the start of the season that the transfer pot was empty which must have included the millions from the first incoming part parachute payment plus the near £18 million the club recieved for Billing and Smith. Then there were reports that the pot was empty due to money pre spent in wages/bonuses etc in the premier league days under both Hoyle and Wagner. Then there were reports that Hoyle had given the club a £50 million loan The big question to many was ---- could the retained badly failed premier league flops who contributed to this debt give the club some kind of advantage in the championship ,and the answer to that question at the moment is a clearly NO. Three managers including one temporary have failed badly So shouty man was asking where all the premier league money had gone IE A well reported £200 million just for winning the play off final TV money over 2 seasons mainly SKY 2 seasons near full house gate reciepts 20,000 crowds PLU sponsorship money which include shirts advertising etc etc League finishing position money Millions in the first part parachute payment which seems to have been pre spent A reported £18 MILLION for Billing and Smith which seems to have been pre spent Plus others not mentioned SO THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT DOES THIS LOT ADD UP TO , AND WHAT WERE THE TOTAL OUTGOINGS ?? Maybe those doubting shouty mans question can answer this as i for one would be very interested to know ,and will eventually be answered in the club audit You do not get $200M for winning the play off final - its worth upto $200M. You are double dipping by including the final position payment, that's where the $200M comes from. |
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Post by canterburyterrier on Aug 27, 2019 15:17:05 GMT 1
When Hoyle sold the club he had to somehow value his business assets before being sold which must have included the market value for players etc which included over priced crap like Mounie Then there were reports at the start of the season that the transfer pot was empty which must have included the millions from the first incoming part parachute payment plus the near £18 million the club recieved for Billing and Smith. Then there were reports that the pot was empty due to money pre spent in wages/bonuses etc in the premier league days under both Hoyle and Wagner. Then there were reports that Hoyle had given the club a £50 million loan The big question to many was ---- could the retained badly failed premier league flops who contributed to this debt give the club some kind of advantage in the championship ,and the answer to that question at the moment is a clearly NO. Three managers including one temporary have failed badly So shouty man was asking where all the premier league money had gone IE ;A well reported £200 million just for winning the play off final TV money over 2 seasons mainly SKY 2 seasons near full house gate reciepts 20,000 crowds PLU sponsorship money which include shirts advertising etc etc League finishing position money Millions in the first part parachute payment which seems to have been pre spent A reported £18 MILLION for Billing and Smith which seems to have been pre spent Plus others not mentioned SO THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT DOES THIS LOT ADD UP TO , AND WHAT WERE THE TOTAL OUTGOINGS ?? Maybe those doubting shouty mans question can answer this as i for one would be very interested to know ,and will eventually be answered in the club audit You have quoted this before - we got nothing for winning the play off final - winning the final got us into the premier league with a guaranteed income while we stayed there of £100 million every year plus relegation parachute payments worth a total of £100 million. Therefore payments that guarantee at £200 million in future payments i.e. the tv money you quote. We didn't get £200 million plus the tv payments. Will you please stop posting crap. |
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Post by hthtafs on Aug 27, 2019 15:32:20 GMT 1
Heard an interesting rumour on Saturday. Have no way to verify it but absolutely believe it and the guy who told be has an impeccable source close the centre of things. Bournemouth initially offered us £7m for Billing and PH was going to accept, until Dean Hoyle intervened. If this is true (and I believe it is, 100%) it tells me a few things. Firstly, PH has no idea what he is doing. Secondly, Dean still cares and will leap into action if needed. Thirdly, Phil has no idea what he is doing. (This needed repeating) It’s clear to me we didn’t get £15m for billing. As reported in the Bournemouth press it was a deal that could add up to £15m. Possibly that means a couple of mill aftera 100 games, 4 seasons in the premiership and a payment for a top six finish! I honestly think we got around £10m which is a good deal given how much we have got got mooy,. I fear his salary with his new contract will be like be a Jack rodwell esq lead ballon round our neck next season when he will earn more than our annual income, given the TV money appears to have been pocketed by Hoyle one way or another. |
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Post by Manx Terrier on Aug 27, 2019 15:38:03 GMT 1
So you know absolutely nothing and don't care. Great. Not directed at you Coddington !! To be honest Manx I’ve listed at least 3 more actual facts in that one post than your last 20 posts combined. Well you don't have to post facts. You can have opinions and ask questions. But as your response didn't give answers you've wasted your time but more importantly mine. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Aug 27, 2019 15:46:18 GMT 1
The wages took a little bit of our promised land money and the bonuses paid for getting there were a little bit more.?
The premier League would be great if you didn't pay fucking huge wages and fees and you could come down again with a fair wad on 'the hip'?
Oddly enough the huge cash injection you get is quickly syphoned off to players and agents. Any sympathy felt for the playing staff really needs putting into context of ridiculous wages.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 27, 2019 15:57:33 GMT 1
When Hoyle sold the club he had to somehow value his business assets before being sold which must have included the market value for players etc which included over priced crap like Mounie Then there were reports at the start of the season that the transfer pot was empty which must have included the millions from the first incoming part parachute payment plus the near £18 million the club recieved for Billing and Smith. Then there were reports that the pot was empty due to money pre spent in wages/bonuses etc in the premier league days under both Hoyle and Wagner. Then there were reports that Hoyle had given the club a £50 million loan The big question to many was ---- could the retained badly failed premier league flops who contributed to this debt give the club some kind of advantage in the championship ,and the answer to that question at the moment is a clearly NO. Three managers including one temporary have failed badly So shouty man was asking where all the premier league money had gone IE A well reported £200 million just for winning the play off final TV money over 2 seasons mainly SKY 2 seasons near full house gate reciepts 20,000 crowds PLU sponsorship money which include shirts advertising etc etc League finishing position money Millions in the first part parachute payment which seems to have been pre spent A reported £18 MILLION for Billing and Smith which seems to have been pre spent Plus others not mentioned SO THE BIG QUESTION IS WHAT DOES THIS LOT ADD UP TO , AND WHAT WERE THE TOTAL OUTGOINGS ?? Maybe those doubting shouty mans question can answer this as i for one would be very interested to know ,and will eventually be answered in the club audit Were you in the same maths class as Diane Abbott? |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Aug 27, 2019 16:21:06 GMT 1
More fake news. Lots of it about currently agree a load of bull Ok, I'll let my source know he has been misinformed by just about the most reliable source it's possible to have outside of the boardroom. Cheers lads. |
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Post by Maynardblue on Aug 27, 2019 16:23:18 GMT 1
Good lad. The key being 'outside the boardroom'
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 27, 2019 16:38:44 GMT 1
Heard an interesting rumour on Saturday. Have no way to verify it but absolutely believe it and the guy who told be has an impeccable source close the centre of things. Bournemouth initially offered us £7m for Billing and PH was going to accept, until Dean Hoyle intervened. If this is true (and I believe it is, 100%) it tells me a few things. Firstly, PH has no idea what he is doing. Secondly, Dean still cares and will leap into action if needed. Thirdly, Phil has no idea what he is doing. (This needed repeating) So now Dean is a footballing genius . How much did he sell Lolley for ? Arfield ? Just out of interest. You had a source the other week and you were spreading it about the internet ? Did it come to fruition ? (Ive genuinely forgot what the scoop was tbh ) |
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Post by Gag N Bone Man on Aug 27, 2019 16:57:01 GMT 1
Heard an interesting rumour on Saturday. Have no way to verify it but absolutely believe it and the guy who told be has an impeccable source close the centre of things. Bournemouth initially offered us £7m for Billing and PH was going to accept, until Dean Hoyle intervened. If this is true (and I believe it is, 100%) it tells me a few things. Firstly, PH has no idea what he is doing. Secondly, Dean still cares and will leap into action if needed. Thirdly, Phil has no idea what he is doing. (This needed repeating) So now Dean is a footballing genius . How much did he sell Lolley for ? Arfield ? Just out of interest. You had a source the other week and you were spreading it about the internet ? Did it come to fruition ? (Ive genuinely forgot what the scoop was tbh ) "I want to accuse you of something but can't be bothered to take the time to come up with something" |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 27, 2019 17:04:48 GMT 1
So now Dean is a footballing genius . How much did he sell Lolley for ? Arfield ? Just out of interest. You had a source the other week and you were spreading it about the internet ? Did it come to fruition ? (Ive genuinely forgot what the scoop was tbh ) "I want to accuse you of something but can't be bothered to take the time to come up with something" Not at all . I just remember another "i heard something on good authority" post from you .. couldnt remember what it was. If i wanted to accuse you of something i would have. On reflection though yes it does feel that you are stirring stuff somewhat based on heresay. Fwiw ive heard lots from reliable sources recently (lots very positive about and sympathetic towards PH actually ) . I wouldnt post it on here tbh because if i wasnt there i dont know for sure.. But if you want to thats up to you its all good |
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Post by terrierhx on Aug 27, 2019 17:43:32 GMT 1
Heard an interesting rumour on Saturday. Have no way to verify it but absolutely believe it and the guy who told be has an impeccable source close the centre of things. Bournemouth initially offered us £7m for Billing and PH was going to accept, until Dean Hoyle intervened. If this is true (and I believe it is, 100%) it tells me a few things. Firstly, PH has no idea what he is doing. Secondly, Dean still cares and will leap into action if needed. Thirdly, Phil has no idea what he is doing. (This needed repeating) Chinese whispers.....or more simply put........bullshit !!!!! |
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Post by Manx Terrier on Aug 27, 2019 18:14:29 GMT 1
 Anyone know an easy alternative to tinypic.com ? For anyone interested I have just found this which seems quite easy :- Use postimages.org Click on "Choose images", select a picture and upload. Then select "Hotlink for forums" [third from the bottom] by clicking on the square box to the right. Then just paste that in your post. This is for PC. |
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Post by duffterrier on Aug 27, 2019 19:15:40 GMT 1
I can’t believe no one has identified/outed who ‘mr shouty’ was Maybe people who know don’t want to announce it on a public forum. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 19:25:21 GMT 1
Anyone know an easy alternative to tinypic.com ? For anyone interested I have just found this which seems quite easy :- Use postimages.org Click on "Choose images", select a picture and upload. Then select "Hotlink for forums" [third from the bottom] by clicking on the square box to the right. Then just paste that in your post. This is for PC. Knock of the S, it's postimage.org It worked.   |
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Post by leedsroadrob on Aug 27, 2019 19:26:55 GMT 1
Were you in the same maths class as Diane Abbott?
I thought it was £200Bn for winning the playoff (I call it payoff) final and another £20Bn per penalty. Where's the f***ing money?
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