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Post by loumacari on Aug 27, 2019 21:22:32 GMT 1
Neither do you fella.... over two PL seasons around £100 in Transfers payments plus £50 and £60 million in wages. There's your PL revenue gone. Even with relegation clauses the wage bill is currently around £40 Million against £46 million PL parachutes.... currently that's not a problem... but for the next two seasons without promotion back to the PL the wage bill has to be covered again given the drastic drop in revenues for the next two seasons. Money has to be set aside to cover the next two seasons wage bill particularly given the bad start... there are no missing millions unless you foolishly believe as you seem to do that players play for free... Please explain to me how our wage bill is 40 million? If it is, someone was bullshitting about 40% wage reduction clauses activating upon relegation That equates to 20 players on £2m a year each, or £40k a week. It wont be anywhere near that. We haven’t got 20 players for a start. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 27, 2019 21:26:05 GMT 1
Please explain to me how our wage bill is 40 million? If it is, someone was bullshitting about 40% wage reduction clauses activating upon relegation That equates to 20 players on £2m a year each, or £40k a week. It wont be anywhere near that. We haven’t got 20 players for a start. There's all the other staff who work for the club don't forget but it'll still be nowhere near 40 million I'd guess at 25 million on the players salaries and around 5 million on all other staff which includes everyone from Mavis in the kitchen at canalside to Winter in his big chair stroking his cat |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:26:18 GMT 1
I am still waiting for someone to give me an approximate total of income for those two premier league seasons of which i highlighted earlier Try using google PL revenues for each PL club for seasons 2017/2018 and 2018/2019 - there is no missing £200 million..... |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:28:52 GMT 1
Neither do you fella.... over two PL seasons around £100 in Transfers payments plus £50 and £60 million in wages. There's your PL revenue gone. Even with relegation clauses the wage bill is currently around £40 Million against £46 million PL parachutes.... currently that's not a problem... but for the next two seasons without promotion back to the PL the wage bill has to be covered again given the drastic drop in revenues for the next two seasons. Money has to be set aside to cover the next two seasons wage bill particularly given the bad start... there are no missing millions unless you foolishly believe as you seem to do that players play for free... You could have been in the money mate if you'd have stumped up that 100 quid for that relegation bet, Christ, how good does that bet look now? Aren't hindsight and bleak pessimism wonderful attributes to have..... plus of course the ignominy of betting against your own club.... |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2019 21:33:15 GMT 1
You could have been in the money mate if you'd have stumped up that 100 quid for that relegation bet, Christ, how good does that bet look now? Aren't hindsight and bleak pessimism wonderful attributes to have..... plus of course the ignominy of betting against your own club.... Told you, it would soften the blow and pay for your League One season ticket. Not hindsight, it was fairly obvious what would happen and it has prevailed. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:34:48 GMT 1
Neither do you fella.... over two PL seasons around £100 in Transfers payments plus £50 and £60 million in wages. There's your PL revenue gone. Even with relegation clauses the wage bill is currently around £40 Million against £46 million PL parachutes.... currently that's not a problem... but for the next two seasons without promotion back to the PL the wage bill has to be covered again given the drastic drop in revenues for the next two seasons. Money has to be set aside to cover the next two seasons wage bill particularly given the bad start... there are no missing millions unless you foolishly believe as you seem to do that players play for free... Please explain to me how our wage bill is 40 million? If it is, someone was bullshitting about 40% wage reduction clauses activating upon relegation I said around £40 million - that would include new signings for this season - 40% of £60 million etc... |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 27, 2019 21:38:16 GMT 1
Aren't hindsight and bleak pessimism wonderful attributes to have..... plus of course the ignominy of betting against your own club.... Told you, it would soften the blow and pay for your League One season ticket. Not hindsight, it was fairly obvious what would happen and it has prevailed. Quick question. Who said this the week before the season started ? I'm not convinced by the 433 formation, I don't think the players are good enough but if we can gather momentum and make a good start we could do well but I'd say higher mid table. |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 27, 2019 21:38:30 GMT 1
Please explain to me how our wage bill is 40 million? If it is, someone was bullshitting about 40% wage reduction clauses activating upon relegation I said around £40 million - that would include new signings for this season - 40% of £60 million etc... You can't take 40% off £60 million when most of the big earners are long gone |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:38:38 GMT 1
Aren't hindsight and bleak pessimism wonderful attributes to have..... plus of course the ignominy of betting against your own club.... Told you, it would soften the blow and pay for your League One season ticket. Not hindsight, it was fairly obvious what would happen and it has prevailed. As predicted by your forecasting model presumably - well 41 games to go to test that hypothesis.... you could be right but then again random events could come into play 🤔 |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2019 21:40:24 GMT 1
Please explain to me how our wage bill is 40 million? If it is, someone was bullshitting about 40% wage reduction clauses activating upon relegation I said around £40 million - that would include new signings for this season - 40% of £60 million etc... If we had a 40 million wage bill we would probably be top of the wage table for this division. There is no way Town's wage bill is 40 million. |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 27, 2019 21:41:17 GMT 1
Told you, it would soften the blow and pay for your League One season ticket. Not hindsight, it was fairly obvious what would happen and it has prevailed. As predicted by your forecasting model presumably - well 41 games to go to test that hypothesis.... you could be right but then again random events could come into play 🤔 Sadly the art of proper conversation on this board seems now to be a thing of the past I dont know everything thats going on at the club ,but sad when people " mainly keyboard warriors " can only reply with abusive comments of which is totally unacceptable and gets us nowhere |
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Post by space hardware on Aug 27, 2019 21:42:24 GMT 1
I said around £40 million - that would include new signings for this season - 40% of £60 million etc... You can't take 40% off £60 million when most of the big earners are long gone And didn't that £60m include substantial bonuses for avoiding relegation that year too? Obviously no such payments will have been required at the end of last season. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2019 21:43:11 GMT 1
Told you, it would soften the blow and pay for your League One season ticket. Not hindsight, it was fairly obvious what would happen and it has prevailed. Quick question. Who said this the week before the season started ? I'm not convinced by the 433 formation, I don't think the players are good enough but if we can gather momentum and make a good start we could do well but I'd say higher mid table. Fucking hell Ted have you got a dossier on my postings? You've been a reet miserable sod of late. I was letting my heart rule my head on that one, incorrectly of course but I was right about the 433 wasn't I though and I'm sure if you consult your dossier, I'm sure I would have posted that we would struggle. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 27, 2019 21:44:23 GMT 1
Quick question. Who said this the week before the season started ? I'm not convinced by the 433 formation, I don't think the players are good enough but if we can gather momentum and make a good start we could do well but I'd say higher mid table. Fucking hell Ted have you got a dossier on my postings? You've been a reet miserable sod of late. I was letting my heart rule my head on that one, incorrectly of course but I was right about the 433 wasn't I though and I'm sure if you consult your dossier, I'm sure I would have posted that we would struggle. Aka "Oh shit ive been outed as a billy bullshitter" |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2019 21:47:36 GMT 1
Fucking hell Ted have you got a dossier on my postings? You've been a reet miserable sod of late. I was letting my heart rule my head on that one, incorrectly of course but I was right about the 433 wasn't I though and I'm sure if you consult your dossier, I'm sure I would have posted that we would struggle. Aka "Oh shit ive been outed as a billy bullshitter" Give over, you're pulling my plonker now. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:48:40 GMT 1
I said around £40 million - that would include new signings for this season - 40% of £60 million etc... If we had a 40 million wage bill we would probably be top of the wage table for this division. There is no way Town's wage bill is 40 million. Well we'll see when the club's accounts are published plus the club still owes DH around 50 million - whatever the figure is the club still has to plan out its falling revenues against less falling costs over the next few season's especially if as predicted by the arterrier econometric forecasting model we'll be in League 1 . 😉 |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Aug 27, 2019 21:49:21 GMT 1
Sugy - think for just one minute. If you were correct (you 100% are not correct) to say that winning the playoff final won Town £200m, why should the playoff winners earn £200m more than the two clubs that gained automatic promotion? Answer - they don’t.
Finishing 20th earns a club roughly £105m, then they get parachute payments, taking the total to approaching £200m. This is what they mean by the “£200m game”.
I trust you’ll apologise to all concerned who you’ve called out when you finally understand that you HAVE double dipped? Are you man enough?
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2019 21:53:14 GMT 1
If we had a 40 million wage bill we would probably be top of the wage table for this division. There is no way Town's wage bill is 40 million. Well we'll see when the club's accounts are published plus the club still owes DH around 50 million - whatever the figure is the club still has to plan out its falling revenues against less falling costs over the next few season's especially if as predicted by the arterrier econometric forecasting model we'll be in League 1 . 😉 In our promotion season there were only two clubs with wage bills 40 million plus and both of them are back in the PL now. There maybe be clubs approaching 40 million but Town won't be one of them. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 21:59:53 GMT 1
Well we'll see when the club's accounts are published plus the club still owes DH around 50 million - whatever the figure is the club still has to plan out its falling revenues against less falling costs over the next few season's especially if as predicted by the arterrier econometric forecasting model we'll be in League 1 . 😉 In our promotion season there were only two clubs with wage bills 40 million plus and both of them are back in the PL now. There maybe be clubs approaching 40 million but Town won't be one of them. Well we'll see but one things for certain revenues will drop faster than costs unless money is set aside plus the DH debt needs to be covered unless he's willing to write it off.... |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Aug 27, 2019 22:01:04 GMT 1
In our promotion season there were only two clubs with wage bills 40 million plus and both of them are back in the PL now. There maybe be clubs approaching 40 million but Town won't be one of them. Well we'll see but one things for certain revenues will drop faster than costs unless money is set aside plus the DH debt needs to be covered unless he's willing to write it off.... That's why it's imperative not to get relegated. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 22:07:59 GMT 1
Well we'll see but one things for certain revenues will drop faster than costs unless money is set aside plus the DH debt needs to be covered unless he's willing to write it off.... That's why it's imperative not to get relegated. On that we can agree 😀 |
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Post by sapphireblue on Aug 27, 2019 22:31:47 GMT 1
As predicted by your forecasting model presumably - well 41 games to go to test that hypothesis.... you could be right but then again random events could come into play 🤔 Sadly the art of proper conversation on this board seems now to be a thing of the past I dont know everything thats going on at the club ,but sad when people " mainly keyboard warriors " can only reply with abusive comments of which is totally unacceptable and gets us nowhere First of all you don't KNOW anything that is going on at the club. Neither do I. Secondly, having failed to read and react "with proper conversation" to several sensible replies to your posts about missing millions and people started to take the micky a little, you then asked to "meet up with me", at a future game. Seems like classic wummming/keyboard warrior stuff - I'm not sure if that's how it was meant but it was a good impression. (BTW, my dog is still as thick as fuck, he has just ran full into a tree when chasing a squirrel, then pranced away looking proud of himself) Never mind my seat number (posted above) get yourself to the Grove before a game (12 noon onwards - lounge side) and you can join us for a few scoops. All Town fans are welcome. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 27, 2019 22:41:51 GMT 1
Sadly the art of proper conversation on this board seems now to be a thing of the past I dont know everything thats going on at the club ,but sad when people " mainly keyboard warriors " can only reply with abusive comments of which is totally unacceptable and gets us nowhere First of all you don't KNOW anything that is going on at the club. Neither do I. Secondly, having failed to read and react "with proper conversation" to several sensible replies to your posts about missing millions and people started to take the micky a little, you then asked to "meet up with me", at a future game. Seems like classic wummming/keyboard warrior stuff - I'm not sure if that's how it was meant but it was a good impression. (BTW, my dog is still as thick as fuck, he has just ran full into a tree when chasing a squirrel, then pranced away looking proud of himself) Never mind my seat number (posted above) get yourself to the Grove before a game (12 noon onwards - lounge side) and you can join us for a few scoops. All Town fans are welcome. congrats on your patience |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2019 22:44:27 GMT 1
What, I'll repeat that my dog is as thick as fuck as many times as you like. Some nasty twats on here and lets see what these keyboard warriors like Ben 1987 have to say to my face Just the same thing he typed would be my guess !! |
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Post by Up the Duff. on Aug 27, 2019 22:51:47 GMT 1
Neither do you fella.... over two PL seasons around £100 in Transfers payments plus £50 and £60 million in wages. There's your PL revenue gone. Even with relegation clauses the wage bill is currently around £40 Million against £46 million PL parachutes.... currently that's not a problem... but for the next two seasons without promotion back to the PL the wage bill has to be covered again given the drastic drop in revenues for the next two seasons. Money has to be set aside to cover the next two seasons wage bill particularly given the bad start... there are no missing millions unless you foolishly believe as you seem to do that players play for free... Please explain to me how our wage bill is 40 million? If it is, someone was bullshitting about 40% wage reduction clauses activating upon relegation It isn't anything like that unless we have 24 players on 32,000 a week. Absolutely no chance when we have R. Brown, J.Brown, Koroma, Bockhorn, schofield, obrien, edmonds green in the squad. |
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Post by est1908 on Aug 27, 2019 22:53:32 GMT 1
You're doubling counting fella.... no im not fella  |
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Post by wainwright on Aug 28, 2019 21:31:37 GMT 1
The only question I'd like answering is how is it that it seems Phil owns the company that retains the major shareholding in Southport FC. Has the paperwork not caught up yet, or is it a potential case of him not being fully aware of the rules because there's too many of them again? Look at the confirmation statement for Southport and note the major shareholders. Then look at the ownership of Astute Business Management Consultants Ltd. He doesn’t, his long term associate, Ian Kyle, was “gifted” most of those shares after the date of that confirmation statement. PH retains significant influence over Southport by virtue of stadium, main stand and back of shirt sponsorship. In addition, the front of shirt sponsor appears to be a business which doesn’t actually exist. |
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Post by Witness on Aug 29, 2019 13:26:10 GMT 1
Having witnessed the whole incident I can tell you now there was no swearing at all or personal abuse aimed at the chairman
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Post by Manx Terrier on Aug 29, 2019 13:43:57 GMT 1
As predicted by your forecasting model presumably - well 41 games to go to test that hypothesis.... you could be right but then again random events could come into play 🤔 Sadly the art of proper conversation on this board seems now to be a thing of the past I dont know everything thats going on at the club ,but sad when people " mainly keyboard warriors " can only reply with abusive comments of which is totally unacceptable and gets us nowhere You are quite right. You should just reply to the post and not personally abuse the poster. It just seems seems so obvious. |
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Post by Manx Terrier on Aug 29, 2019 13:50:51 GMT 1
Quick question. Who said this the week before the season started ? I'm not convinced by the 433 formation, I don't think the players are good enough but if we can gather momentum and make a good start we could do well but I'd say higher mid table. Fucking hell Ted have you got a dossier on my postings? You've been a reet miserable sod of late. I was letting my heart rule my head on that one, incorrectly of course but I was right about the 433 wasn't I though and I'm sure if you consult your dossier, I'm sure I would have posted that we would struggle. Our views change and we post rubbish from time to time. Previous posts should be confidential ! |
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