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Post by johns on Aug 31, 2019 22:51:40 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2019 22:57:01 GMT 1
Been worse although this is bad
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Post by workshyfop on Aug 31, 2019 23:04:22 GMT 1
I always expect us to be shite. The only disappointments have come when a bit of hope is stolen away ... Selling Stewart - a chance to get into the top division lost and then getting relegated a year later. Now - the supposed advantage of PL money not materialising, for whatever reasons.
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Post by Bigcolquaner on Aug 31, 2019 23:09:51 GMT 1
I'm as big a fan as the next fella, but honestly, I barely feel a loss nowadays.
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Post by brighousebandbred on Aug 31, 2019 23:15:05 GMT 1
The most pissing thing off about it all is that we actually became a club to be proud of, we were at last given a team worthy of our loyal fantastic support and in no time at all they’ve taken it away from us back to the dire crap that makes it hard to keep your children interested in a club with the ambitions of a person who wants to claim the dole. What’s the point in this club if you’ve no ambition.
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Post by Oblong of Dreams on Aug 31, 2019 23:16:26 GMT 1
I've been way more pissed off (Stewart, 2000, Davy's shenanigans with the ground) but I've never felt so hopeless.
I'm numb. Like a few have said, I'm not sure a win would snap me out of it. Last season that first couple of wins got me hopeful again briefly... I'll not make that mistake again!
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Post by space hardware on Aug 31, 2019 23:18:40 GMT 1
I'm as big a fan as the next fella, but honestly, I barely feel a loss nowadays. This time last year we were playing the likes of Man City and Chelsea. Today we lost to fucking Luton and all I feel is a bit "meh". How we've gone from surviving in the PL with a game to spare, via last season's utter shitshow and the "sale" of the club to a guy who is no richer than the local butcher and wasn't even rated by Southport's fans, to the current situation is beyond me. It's laughably shit.
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Post by 28901 on Aug 31, 2019 23:19:47 GMT 1
I’ve supported Town since the mid 60’s so I’ve seen worse than this, but the present is all that matters and I’m mighty pissed off with the club. Correction.....I’m mighty pissed off with football in general. I think I’ve fallen out of love with it, and it’s not just because of Town. It’s not a game I care for anymore. I think. saw my first town game 1954and like many have seen bad times aND GOOD ONES. I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT ABOUT LOSING INTEREST WITH THE GAME. because its more money orientated than ever.town are going through a bad spell but its not over just yet and we have to see what develops because there has been some poor decision making but we move on as there is a hell of a lot to play for.Whoever comes in has a hard but not impossible task Blimey Positive. You must be pushing for the oldest on here.Can anyone beat that for a first game?
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Aug 31, 2019 23:20:17 GMT 1
The most pissing thing off about it all is that we actually became a club to be proud of, we were at last given a team worthy of our loyal fantastic support and in no time at all they’ve taken it away from us back to the dire crap that makes it hard to keep your children interested in a club with the ambitions of a person who wants to claim the dole. What’s the point in this club if you’ve no ambition. Taken away from us principally due to rank bad management. Agree totally with your post.
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Post by Bigcolquaner on Aug 31, 2019 23:25:37 GMT 1
I'm as big a fan as the next fella, but honestly, I barely feel a loss nowadays. This time last year we were playing the likes of Man City and Chelsea. Today we lost to fucking Luton and all I feel is a bit "meh". How we've gone from surviving in the PL with a game to spare, via last season's utter shitshow and the "sale" of the club to a guy who is no richer than the local butcher and wasn't even rated by Southport's fans, to the current situation is beyond me. It's laughably shit. The fact it's laughable is the only reason I keep turning up. You know we'll be shite, you know we'll still be in the game at half time, and you know we'll lose. I've learned to laugh at diakhaby attempting to be a footballer, at Bacuna scuffing a clearance, at Pritchard being the ugliest midget on the pitch every week... Bring back Gemma's box Being back clackers. Bring back Quaner. Also...I'd have been over pancreatitis in two weeks. Grow a pair Hoyle.
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Post by wigster on Aug 31, 2019 23:28:57 GMT 1
I think this is definitely one of the worst times, in my 50 years of supporting Town, because of what we've thrown away.
I remember the bad old days of Div 4/Tim Clarke/the match against Chester etc but in those days we had little money and didn't really have the aspirations,expectations or resources that we've had in recent years. To go, in such a very short time, from surviving our first season in the promised land of the Premier league - with money, status, prospects, some decent players etc etc to where we are now - apparently little money (how MUCH have we blown?), some lower division players/weak replacements for our best players, and a whole group of players who are still taking so much out of the club without putting much, if anything, in is dreadful.
Additionally we are stuck with these, now proven, failures (look at their stats for scoring/assists etc) and watch them week in week out have no end product/avoid heading/dive/roll around the ground as if shot/ get knackered after 65 minutes/avoid tackling/be disrespectful to the manager and club on social media etc etc and realise that we are stuck with them for the foreseeable future by which time their combined wages will have taken literally £millions more out of the club. I'm not even sure if Mbenza even bothers to pretend he's interested.
It's not just the players either - from Wagner's giving up of our identity and then his desertion/our recruitment team's ineptitude/Julian Winter's getting paid a fortune for, at best, a non-performance, Hoyle's losing it for the last two years (for totally understandable reasons), the doubts about the new Chairman's ability/financial strength and bullshit ("we've goals in us", "I've watched Siewert closely", "we're bringing in...") - we seem to have the perfect storm of ineptitude at nearly every level.
Of course we're not in the bottom division with crowds of 3/4 thousand, but much more of this and we could be. That's why I'm almost as pissed off as I've ever been in my 50+ years - so much promise and hope destroyed, so many weekly reminders of how bad we are, and about our only hope being we might somehow go against recent years recruitment get a superstar of a new manager. We've fallen a long way before, but not from such a great height of what the stay in the Premier league COULD have provided. To top it all, I live in Burnley and see every week how it SHOULD have been done.
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Post by Paphos Terrier on Aug 31, 2019 23:49:29 GMT 1
She was a girl from Birmingham, We'd just had an Abortion!
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Post by runner76 on Aug 31, 2019 23:52:05 GMT 1
Never seen a less committed / bothered side
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Post by rastrick32 on Aug 31, 2019 23:55:04 GMT 1
The most pissing thing off about it all is that we actually became a club to be proud of, we were at last given a team worthy of our loyal fantastic support and in no time at all they’ve taken it away from us back to the dire crap that makes it hard to keep your children interested in a club with the ambitions of a person who wants to claim the dole. What’s the point in this club if you’ve no ambition. Sums up everything. Those behind our current plight need to understand this.
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Post by richyhtfc on Aug 31, 2019 23:59:22 GMT 1
The thing that has pissed me off the most. over the time i have been a fan has been some of our fans.
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Post by Kenny irons on Aug 31, 2019 23:59:46 GMT 1
I have to admit we've had our grim moments in leagues 1 and 2. But at this moment in time the club are in free fall with no positives to take at all. The next manager appointment will make or break our season. UTT
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Post by royrace on Sept 1, 2019 0:06:48 GMT 1
The sheer stupidity and incompetence of it is what gets me. Probably the first time I've ever genuinely felt like not turning up. All the previous failures were generally down to lack of funds, bad luck, one wrong manager etc.
This is different, we just killed the goose that laid the golden egg. And instead of admission of that fact we get the same fucking goons telling us the same stupid fucking thing over and over again.
When is someone at the club going to take some fucking responsible for this monumental fuck up?
Dean, Phil, Mr invisible, anyone??
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Post by Melc on Sept 1, 2019 0:07:53 GMT 1
Watched town for 60 years and can't believe how bad it now has become in such a short time. Something has to be done quick and starting with the whole coaching team for me!
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 1, 2019 0:10:21 GMT 1
Today is miles worse than the seventies. 72-78 was pretty grim in terms of our league status but we didn't have a pot to piss in then and despite being relegated from the first to forth division, we never had a record as bad as 4 wins in 57 games.
The standard of football is higher now that it was back then but the results are far worse.
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Sept 1, 2019 1:00:55 GMT 1
In reply to the OP, if your response is NO then you must be 13 years old or younger.
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Post by captainblack on Sept 1, 2019 6:53:54 GMT 1
Started watching Town 75/76 season and to be perfectly honest we were terrible , however I was only 14 and absolutely loved them times , although this may sound strange.
Everyone is completely depressed at the situation at Town at the moment , which is completely understandable , and it is pointless to start blaming everyone at the club.
We can turn this season around though with the help of a good manager, this next appointment, as has been stated is utterly crucial, get it wrong and we are down . There are decent manager's out there who have the ability to turn things around.When we appointed Buxton we were in freefall but he stated he would have us finishing in the top ten , we did . The following season we were promoted.
All I am saying fellow Town fans , is all is not yet lost, the appointment of a good manager could change our fortunes dramatically . Lets all just hope by the Sheff Wed game we have a new manager in place with a new and positive spirit.
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Post by jim100 on Sept 1, 2019 7:07:56 GMT 1
We've had worse but what's make me so angry is the 10 years progression has been blown. We are miles off teams in this division The squad is weak yet overpaid. Depressing times
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Post by aksaiblue on Sept 1, 2019 8:34:32 GMT 1
What annoys me is the lack of urgency in appointing a manager. There is still time to turn this season around, to survive and fight another day, but the club has to act now.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 1, 2019 8:37:48 GMT 1
we're not privy to the goings on at the club, but from the outside it looks pretty bad.
Have I seen worse times? Absolutely.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Sept 1, 2019 8:45:40 GMT 1
When I was working Town used to regularly ruin my weekends. Now I'm 100% absolutely past caring. In the words of the song... "We're so shit it's unbelievable!"
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 8:55:03 GMT 1
We’ve definitely been in worse positions but I don’t think we’ve ever been more at fault than now. In the 70s we’d not just received £200m. In 2001 we didn’t have a budget several times that of our competitors. In 2003 the fans rallied round as we slumped back into the bottom tier whilst the then board did all they could to save us. In 2004 we had 7 players and a bunch of kids but we had a bit of character and leadership.
I’m more pissed off than ever because the current situation is entirely our own doing, precisely what we were assured wouldn’t happen and exactly what many saw would happen after 18 months of arrogance, stupidity and downright ludicrous decisions across the entire club.
We won the lottery getting to the PL yet we threw it all away in 2 years: the money, the opportunity, the goodwill, the optimism, the hope and the passion. It’s an absolute shambles.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2019 9:21:28 GMT 1
I was past caring in 2003 but I'm hating this. We should not be this bad with these players. I expected us to be top 10 and fighting for promotion. I now just want us to stay up. We need a manager asap.
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Post by York Terrier on Sept 1, 2019 9:46:18 GMT 1
I have tried to work out how we have arrived in our current position and whilst it’s only guess work this is my take on what started the problem we now find ourselves with.
After staying up in the first year DW asked DH to invest in 4/5 premiership quality players on big wages including two quality wingers and DH said NO we will invest in potential and try to get by for another season. The players we brought in might have been picked by DW but he was shopping at Aldi not Waitrose after being told the club would not invest heavily in good quality players. Following the run of bad results and countless defeats DW told DH a few home truths and they fell out and DW left. The players realised what was happening and The rest as they say is History.
DH new he had got it wrong and started the process of selling the club, we brought in another cheap replacement with the new Manager who instantly made matters worse destroying the spirit built up under DW in an instance and turning all the better players against him. The American interest ( which I know is correct) probably valued the club at a lot less than DH, and he did what any businessman would do sold 75% of the club for the most money he could get.
As I said It’s only guess work on my part apart from the American Interest, but it all appears to fall into place if you look at our current situation with unhappy players leaving ,players who we brought in to improve and sell on who are simply not good enough, and no further investment in the squad due to DH not investing any further monies and the new Chairman having no money to invest.
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Post by dugnet on Sept 1, 2019 9:55:42 GMT 1
I am not so much pissed off as to completely baffled as to how we have got into such a mess when run by apparently capable and decent people.
In the past we were run by people I had far less respect for so understood why we were invariably subject to poor decisions but to be in such a state with good people in charge is incredibly disturbing.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 1, 2019 11:06:47 GMT 1
We’ve definitely been in worse positions but I don’t think we’ve ever been more at fault than now. In the 70s we’d not just received £200m. In 2001 we didn’t have a budget several times that of our competitors. In 2003 the fans rallied round as we slumped back into the bottom tier whilst the then board did all they could to save us. In 2004 we had 7 players and a bunch of kids but we had a bit of character and leadership. I’m more pissed off than ever because the current situation is entirely our own doing, precisely what we were assured wouldn’t happen and exactly what many saw would happen after 18 months of arrogance, stupidity and downright ludicrous decisions across the entire club. We won the lottery getting to the PL yet we threw it all away in 2 years: the money, the opportunity, the goodwill, the optimism, the hope and the passion. It’s an absolute shambles. Well said and all very true.
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