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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 3, 2019 13:17:15 GMT 1
it's almost as if any Terrier Spirit has literally been sucked out of the players and the fans. What the hell is wrong with the club? I personally blame everyone at the club. How was this allowed to happen?
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Post by dugnet on Sept 3, 2019 13:19:54 GMT 1
it's almost as if any Terrier Spirit has literally been sucked out of the players and the fans. What the hell is wrong with the club? I personally blame everyone at the club. How was this allowed to happen? I can accept it has happened (people get things wrong) but not addressing will be a crime. |
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Post by atowninessex on Sept 3, 2019 14:07:37 GMT 1
i hate the feeling of lethargy that i have at the moment , i could make excuses for not making the 400 mile round trips for derby
and fulham as they were on sky and evening games during the week and reading was a bank holiday , i did go to qpr and thought we looked ok , i will not make the owls its on sky again - but i should be making the effort to go but the club is just grinding a majority of the fans down with its lack of info/ selling players / not buying anyone and not appointing a a manger .
i still think back to that great day in may 2017 and that wonderful night at chelsea ( i actually think the emotions were greater at chelsea than at wembley) where we achieved the impossible and made thousands dreams come true!
i have no idea who is to blame obviously the rubbish we brought in last season didn't help the DW cause and i'm sure the illness of DH had a major part in how things have panned out but the club was a multi million pound business i cannot believe how inept we appear to have been
in recruitment and running the club - i am sure canal side has caused a lot of the issues
i actually don't mind if they make mark hudson the manger at least we will know where we stand - do think one day he will make a good manager
but at the moment this must be a poisoned chalice to anyone -
that been said we do have the players to get us out of this but not sure what motivational expert can do it!
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 3, 2019 14:13:25 GMT 1
All this ‘once in a lifetime opportunity’ and ‘doing a Burnley’ is rubbish. Every single club that is promoted will say the same. How can everyone ‘do a Burnley’ when 3 clubs are relegated? Does that mean the 3 who are relegated have all blown their ‘once in a lifetime’, no. We should have had one season in Premier League, we got two. Maybe just the one would have been better in the long run, who knows. ‘Supporters’ will support the club, it’s shit at the minute, it won’t be forever. Why SHOULD we have had one season? Bore off. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2019 14:16:12 GMT 1
Why SHOULD we have had one season? Bore off. Answer the question? |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 3, 2019 14:42:54 GMT 1
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Post by boooothy on Sept 3, 2019 14:54:57 GMT 1
No. A few drinks and i turn into a ranting fool, boring people who don’t care about Huddersfield Town
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Post by benhomly on Sept 3, 2019 15:07:28 GMT 1
i hate the feeling of lethargy that i have at the moment , i could make excuses for not making the 400 mile round trips for derby
and fulham as they were on sky and evening games during the week and reading was a bank holiday , i did go to qpr and thought we looked ok , i will not make the owls its on sky again - but i should be making the effort to go but the club is just grinding a majority of the fans down with its lack of info/ selling players / not buying anyone and not appointing a a manger . i still think back to that great day in may 2017 and that wonderful night at chelsea ( i actually think the emotions were greater at chelsea than at wembley) where we achieved the impossible and made thousands dreams come true! i have no idea who is to blame obviously the rubbish we brought in last season didn't help the DW cause and i'm sure the illness of DH had a major part in how things have panned out but the club was a multi million pound business i cannot believe how inept we appear to have been in recruitment and running the club - i am sure canal side has caused a lot of the issues i actually don't mind if they make mark hudson the manger at least we will know where we stand - do think one day he will make a good manager but at the moment this must be a poisoned chalice to anyone - that been said we do have the players to get us out of this but not sure what motivational expert can do it! Don't blame you in the slightest for not turning up to those games. I live 3 miles away and at this stage don't know whether I can be bothered to go to the SW game. And if I don't I won't be watching it on the telly either. After 47 years of support maybe it's someone else's turn to go to every home game and 10-12 away games a season. |
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Post by shawsie on Sept 3, 2019 18:32:17 GMT 1
i hate the feeling of lethargy that i have at the moment , i could make excuses for not making the 400 mile round trips for derby
and fulham as they were on sky and evening games during the week and reading was a bank holiday , i did go to qpr and thought we looked ok , i will not make the owls its on sky again - but i should be making the effort to go but the club is just grinding a majority of the fans down with its lack of info/ selling players / not buying anyone and not appointing a a manger . i still think back to that great day in may 2017 and that wonderful night at chelsea ( i actually think the emotions were greater at chelsea than at wembley) where we achieved the impossible and made thousands dreams come true! i have no idea who is to blame obviously the rubbish we brought in last season didn't help the DW cause and i'm sure the illness of DH had a major part in how things have panned out but the club was a multi million pound business i cannot believe how inept we appear to have been in recruitment and running the club - i am sure canal side has caused a lot of the issues i actually don't mind if they make mark hudson the manger at least we will know where we stand - do think one day he will make a good manager but at the moment this must be a poisoned chalice to anyone - that been said we do have the players to get us out of this but not sure what motivational expert can do it! Don't blame you in the slightest for not turning up to those games. I live 3 miles away and at this stage don't know whether I can be bothered to go to the SW game. And if I don't I won't be watching it on the telly either. After 47 years of support maybe it's someone else's turn to go to every home game and 10-12 away games a season. Feel exactly the same.......if my lads football isnt changed then i wont be going. Put simply it's boring to watch and cba. |
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Post by El Mel on Sept 3, 2019 21:45:45 GMT 1
Early 1988. I'd ridden my Honda C90 to the game and parked it up at H.Downs car park, next to The Peacock.
Put my gloves in many helmet and fixed my helmet to the lock on the bike.
Came back post match and some light fingered fker had robbed my gloves.
Bastard.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 3, 2019 21:48:13 GMT 1
Early 1988. I'd ridden my Honda C90 to the game and parked it up at H.Downs car park, next to The Peacock. Put my gloves in many helmet and fixed my helmet to the lock on the bike. Came back post match and some light fingered fker had robbed my gloves. Bastard. Did you keep the bike though Mel, they're worth a fucking fortune now (or were). |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Sept 3, 2019 21:51:42 GMT 1
Yes - Malcolm McDonald, the absolute worst waste of space we've ever employed (in my memory at least). Surprisingly on checking his wiki I was embarrassingly older than I'd thought I was.
1987 he took the reins, not sure the useless bastard ever picked them up...
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Post by El Mel on Sept 3, 2019 22:47:38 GMT 1
Early 1988. I'd ridden my Honda C90 to the game and parked it up at H.Downs car park, next to The Peacock. Put my gloves in many helmet and fixed my helmet to the lock on the bike. Came back post match and some light fingered fker had robbed my gloves. Bastard. Did you keep the bike though Mel, they're worth a fucking fortune now (or were). My big brother wrote it off. That thing was my first taste of freedom though. Loved it. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 4, 2019 7:33:18 GMT 1
Tbf the club seems a total shambles atm
Joke recruitment and no plan at all in the summer.
Fans having a go at each other.
Silence is deafening from the likes of Winter.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 4, 2019 8:04:48 GMT 1
Please tell me that you were the only person who foresaw that we would have no offers of any real money for our better players??
Go on I dare even you to claim that.
The plan when you get relegated is to clear some of the big earners and get funds to revamp for the championship, given a huge amount of your zillion pounds of premier League money went straight out on wages this is for clubs like ours, the only sensible plan.
Never happened and fucked us over, most sensible town fans accept this.
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Post by rubicon on Sept 4, 2019 8:40:15 GMT 1
I think I felt worse than now in 1972, after our last top flight debacle. It's a long time ago, but two immediate reasons spring to mind.
1. I was a lot younger and football seemed a lot more important than it does at age 67. Plus 45 years of ups and downs with Town, have more or less conditioned me to accept how they can bounce between being brilliant, (rarely) and dross.(often)
2. There isn't a single player in the current squad, or even the Premier League lads who've left, who'd make it into the England team. Then we had two, Trevor Cherry before he became a hard dirty Leeds bastard, the lad could play a bit, and of course the brilliant Frankie Worthington, provided some of the best moments of my Town watching life.
It really doesn't matter if the standard of football is so much better now, something I'd take some convincing on anyway, there just is no comparison with the bunch of wasters turning out at the moment.
PS. (There may be more than two reasons buried in these sentences, before some nobhead brings it up)
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Post by terrierbite on Sept 4, 2019 8:45:07 GMT 1
Yes totally fed up with things ,we can’t attract a lower league manager to a club that 12 months ago was a premier league club ,how we laughed at Leeds when they set on Dave Hockaday ,he was possibly the best he could get considering the basket case Leeds were at the time ,it mirrors what Town must look like now to an outside candidate
We can all see where this is going in that we are going to get a run of the mill manager from the list of people off of the management merry go round ,we are back to where we were under Robins and Powell ,really fed up ,sat listening to Radio,normally the sport at 8.35 on radio Leeds ,don’t want to hear the latest depressing news ,we are a laughing stock ,even the one Barnsley fan at work feels sorry for us and can’t believe we are skint
Thanks Dean for the memories you didn’t need to leave it like this ,how may steak dinners could you have afforded without taking your money out .
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 4, 2019 10:32:40 GMT 1
Yes - Malcolm McDonald, the absolute worst waste of space we've ever employed (in my memory at least). Surprisingly on checking his wiki I was embarrassingly older than I'd thought I was. 1987 he took the reins, not sure the useless bastard ever picked them up... I remember going to each game under him and just praying we could do enough to scrape a draw. My god we were shit back then. |
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Post by linson on Sept 4, 2019 11:05:55 GMT 1
The club is an hilariously unfunny joke at the moment.
The board has to take the blame with a catalogue of mistakes that makes it look like they're doing it deliberately.
For almost every person at the club where turnaround could be an issue there should be a list of potential candidates to replace them.
Energetic box to box midfielder perma injured? This is the guy the manager and scouts want to replace him with...
Aerially dominant hold up striker not performing? This player has some of the best stats and wouldn't cost a fortune to buy...
Tactically inept manager who's pissed everyone off? This manager is the guy to replace...
It's the job of the board to have a vision of the future and to have a contingency plan when that vision inevitably has speed bumps.
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Post by shawsie on Sept 4, 2019 14:08:03 GMT 1
Yes - Malcolm McDonald, the absolute worst waste of space we've ever employed (in my memory at least). Surprisingly on checking his wiki I was embarrassingly older than I'd thought I was. 1987 he took the reins, not sure the useless bastard ever picked them up... Not even close to Wadsworth - Macdonald was ill with an addiction when here and in a surprisingly familiar position of not being backed by the board and with a bunch of players used to losing. Wadsworth beats him hands down - Youds, Bevan, Macdonald, Sharp, Ashcroft need I go on!!! |
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Post by foxtrot666 on Sept 4, 2019 14:53:41 GMT 1
Those of us of a certain age have had loads of worse times than this, the mid 70's were bloody awful. !977/78 we finished 11th in the old Division 4, managed home draws against footballing giants like Aldershot, Torquay, Stockport and Halifax. Our lowest crowd was 1,638 and you can imagine how bad that looked in the old Leeds Road ground.It doesn't make me feel much better about what's happening now but does show that things could be a lot worse.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Sept 4, 2019 14:58:15 GMT 1
Those of us of a certain age have had loads of worse times than this, the mid 70's were bloody awful. !977/78 we finished 11th in the old Division 4, managed home draws against footballing giants like Aldershot, Torquay, Stockport and Halifax. Our lowest crowd was 1,638 and you can imagine how bad that looked in the old Leeds Road ground.It doesn't make me feel much better about what's happening now but does show that things could be a lot worse. I was probably there. I used to stand near the cowshed just up from the old snack hut at the top of the first set of steps into the ground. I can remember the amount of space I used to have around me on the terrace was amazing ( I was only young so I would have been shorter than I am now which might skew things somewhat). Me and my dad could stand there by a barrier and there was no one within about 10 yards. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2019 15:11:30 GMT 1
There are times that I've been pissed off with the club - or individuals at the club - where I'm either still annoyed, or I still maintain I was right to be. Rubery leaving us in the mire, the stadium shares fiasco, selling Stewart, penalising walk-ups with a shocking ticket-pricing policy. There are one or two times I've been pissed off; but, on reflection, have come around. Like when we sold Rhodes, or when we heard that Mooy had agitated for a move on deadline day.
Right now I'm a bit disillusioned, a bit fed up, and at times a little close to apathetic.
But pissed off? Nah.
There's been mistakes - and there may well be more mistakes to come - but ultimately the club's run and staffed by human beings, who I genuinely believe have the club's best interests at heart. I'm not even pissed off at any current players who might appear to lack effort, because if I was in their shoes (boots) I'd be feeling utterly demoralised.
Now's not the time to be pissed off. Now's the time to pull together, get behind the club, and bleedin' well support them.
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Post by wigster on Sept 4, 2019 15:14:25 GMT 1
Those of us of a certain age have had loads of worse times than this, the mid 70's were bloody awful. !977/78 we finished 11th in the old Division 4, managed home draws against footballing giants like Aldershot, Torquay, Stockport and Halifax. Our lowest crowd was 1,638 and you can imagine how bad that looked in the old Leeds Road ground.It doesn't make me feel much better about what's happening now but does show that things could be a lot worse. You're right, certainly in terms of what division we are in. That said, in 50+ years of supporting Town that promotion year in Div 4 (Robins, Fletcher, Brown, Kindon etc ) was my most enjoyable season. Thank you Mick Buxton. |
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Post by specialun on Sept 5, 2019 14:39:37 GMT 1
Please tell me that you were the only person who foresaw that we would have no offers of any real money for our better players?? Go on I dare even you to claim that. The plan when you get relegated is to clear some of the big earners and get funds to revamp for the championship, given a huge amount of your zillion pounds of premier League money went straight out on wages this is for clubs like ours, the only sensible plan. Never happened and fucked us over, most sensible town fans accept this. Wasn’t selling £25m and a loan for for Mooy enough?! We got rid of half the squad? Lossl Lowe Durm Zanka Smith Williams Billing Mooy Depoitre Van la Parra Sabiri Plus Payne |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 5, 2019 15:23:37 GMT 1
Please tell me that you were the only person who foresaw that we would have no offers of any real money for our better players?? Go on I dare even you to claim that. The plan when you get relegated is to clear some of the big earners and get funds to revamp for the championship, given a huge amount of your zillion pounds of premier League money went straight out on wages this is for clubs like ours, the only sensible plan. Never happened and fucked us over, most sensible town fans accept this. Wasn’t selling £25m and a loan for for Mooy enough?! We got rid of half the squad? Lossl Lowe Durm Zanka Smith Williams Billing Mooy Depoitre Van la Parra Sabiri Plus Payne Billing and Mooy were very late and Mooy has not left. The rest is bringing the wages bíll down to a sensible level. Mooy should have brought in 10 plus and Schindler a few million with Kongolo bringing 10 plus etc. We gave Zanka and VLP away as we allowed others to just leave. Cannot replace those that don't go and can't always do deals at the last minute which was not our fault. I believe you think the club is hiding money, I think you are wrong. You want an owner who will spend their own money or load debt onto the club, I don't. Different views |
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Post by specialun on Sept 5, 2019 16:47:33 GMT 1
Wasn’t selling £25m and a loan for for Mooy enough?! We got rid of half the squad? Lossl Lowe Durm Zanka Smith Williams Billing Mooy Depoitre Van la Parra Sabiri Plus Payne Billing and Mooy were very late and Mooy has not left. The rest is bringing the wages bíll down to a sensible level. Mooy should have brought in 10 plus and Schindler a few million with Kongolo bringing 10 plus etc. We gave Zanka and VLP away as we allowed others to just leave. Cannot replace those that don't go and can't always do deals at the last minute which was not our fault. I believe you think the club is hiding money, I think you are wrong. You want an owner who will spend their own money or load debt onto the club, I don't. Different views Hold on 1. Where have I said I think the club is hiding money? 2. Where have I said I want an owner who will spend their own money? |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 5, 2019 17:33:20 GMT 1
Billing and Mooy were very late and Mooy has not left. The rest is bringing the wages bíll down to a sensible level. Mooy should have brought in 10 plus and Schindler a few million with Kongolo bringing 10 plus etc. We gave Zanka and VLP away as we allowed others to just leave. Cannot replace those that don't go and can't always do deals at the last minute which was not our fault. I believe you think the club is hiding money, I think you are wrong. You want an owner who will spend their own money or load debt onto the club, I don't. Different views Hold on 1. Where have I said I think the club is hiding money? 2. Where have I said I want an owner who will spend their own money? Well that's what would have been required if we had brought in players of the required standard and fees and wages without slashing the wage bill enough and providing the extra to cover those leaving and those still here but being 'replaced'? |
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Post by specialun on Sept 6, 2019 0:35:18 GMT 1
Hold on 1. Where have I said I think the club is hiding money? 2. Where have I said I want an owner who will spend their own money? Well that's what would have been required if we had brought in players of the required standard and fees and wages without slashing the wage bill enough and providing the extra to cover those leaving and those still here but being 'replaced'? I’ll take silence to point 1 as an apology Onto point 2... again I have never said that. But your response raises more questions than answers So what are these ‘required... fees and wages’?! I’m assuming you’ve worked this out if you know ‘what would have been required’ versus parachute payments, contractual wage reductions for remaining players, loss of 12 first team players above, £25m player sales, < £1m players in & their wages etc? If you’re going to make comments stating I’ve said something I haven’t / telling me what I think (?!) at least come back with a response less vague than... ‘well that’s what would have been required’ |
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Post by E4b on Sept 6, 2019 6:42:47 GMT 1
Those of us of a certain age have had loads of worse times than this, the mid 70's were bloody awful. !977/78 we finished 11th in the old Division 4, managed home draws against footballing giants like Aldershot, Torquay, Stockport and Halifax. Our lowest crowd was 1,638 and you can imagine how bad that looked in the old Leeds Road ground.It doesn't make me feel much better about what's happening now but does show that things could be a lot worse. I was probably there. I used to stand near the cowshed just up from the old snack hut at the top of the first set of steps into the ground. I can remember the amount of space I used to have around me on the terrace was amazing ( I was only young so I would have been shorter than I am now which might skew things somewhat). Me and my dad could stand there by a barrier and there was no one within about 10 yards. So was I, followed town through thick and thin since 1968. We then get to the Premier League and it’s piss off, you haven’t had a season ticket for the last few years (I work Saturdays) so you can’t have a ticket! Last match I went to was the Play off final where ironically I donated a spare ticket to a worthy town fan. I’m not coming back until we start playing some entertaining football again. Think I could get a ticket these days! |
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