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Post by tvor on Sept 9, 2019 22:31:56 GMT 1
Dont mean to be the party pooper here but because its who phil wanted doesnt mean its a genius appointment and we should all hang the bunting out.. Cowley has only managed in lg 1 for a month.. His previous experience being non lg and lg 2.. Hes not pep guardiola.. Its a bit early to start slapping phil on the back.. Granted hes a promising young manager.. But.. Lets not get carried away.. We are still in trouble.. I hope hes the man to turn us around.. But thers a lot of work to do.. If we’d have appointed the relatively inexperienced Cowleys instead of Siewert in January this place would have been in uproar - even if they had the additional 8-9 months of experience they have now. Having said that, none of the others linked this time around filled me with confidence and even though the last time we picked up a manager from the league below was Powell, I’m looking forward to seeing what they can do. Whatever happens, PH still deserves the kudos as he’s managed to get them in when others with Premier League aspirations haven’t. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Sept 9, 2019 22:35:55 GMT 1
Great appointment today but it still doesn't alter the fact that PH presided over another shit show of a transfer window in the summer. Today he's started to redeem himself, but he has to back these lads to the hilt, so for me the jury's still out. He was in situ during the transfer window, but it was his first window and he was going into it with a set-up he didn't create, which included a large void. He has to take some responsibility, but some of you are being a tad naive with the timings, acting as if everything became down to him the minute the paperwork was signed. |
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Post by drumriggend on Sept 9, 2019 22:37:46 GMT 1
Well done Phil .... superb appointment Ok phil.. |
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Post by showboater on Sept 9, 2019 22:39:28 GMT 1
It makes me laugh how people are saying clean slate etc for Phil. He’s had the chance to invest in a transfer window, in a manager who he backed at the time. He didn’t. People accused him of asset stripping etc and now all of a sudden, he’s made an appointment in Danny Cowley he’s the saviour.
It doesn’t alter the fact he failed in one of our most important transfer windows. He and Julian gave false hope to the fans about incoming players. There is no transparency over the sale of the club and how he acquired it. Then there is the whole Paddy Power farce. Wake up and stop being so fickle.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 9, 2019 22:42:04 GMT 1
Either we didn;t have any money to spend in the summer ( on top of the £8m or so we were legally obliged to pay for Mbenza ) so Phil can;t just invent money.
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We had money, especially after player sales, but Phil decided he didn;t want to give it to the same people who HAD been spending it over the recent windows and would hang on to it until someone better was spending it.
Im not sure he deserves criticism for either scenario myself.
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Post by mrbluesky on Sept 9, 2019 22:46:38 GMT 1
Well done Phil .... superb appointment Ok phil.. Yep , someone has to dilute your constant negativity..... enjoy the moment for once , you might like it |
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Sept 9, 2019 22:51:10 GMT 1
Post by ShortbreadPete on Sept 9, 2019 22:51:10 GMT 1
Either we didn;t have any money to spend in the summer ( on top of the £8m or so we were legally obliged to pay for Mbenza ) so Phil can;t just invent money. or We had money, especially after player sales, but Phil decided he didn;t want to give it to the same people who HAD been spending it over the recent windows and would hang on to it until someone better was spending it. Im not sure he deserves criticism for either scenario myself. Spot on - the 'or' part is as I see it |
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Sept 9, 2019 22:52:44 GMT 1
Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 9, 2019 22:52:44 GMT 1
Great appointment today but it still doesn't alter the fact that PH presided over another shit show of a transfer window in the summer. Today he's started to redeem himself, but he has to back these lads to the hilt, so for me the jury's still out. He was in situ during the transfer window, but it was his first window and he was going into it with a set-up he didn't create, which included a large void. He has to take some responsibility, but some of you are being a tad naive with the timings, acting as if everything became down to him the minute the paperwork was signed. By his own admission he was kept informed and was part of the decision making from February onwards. He also said he was fully behind the appointment of Siewert. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 22:55:26 GMT 1
He was in situ during the transfer window, but it was his first window and he was going into it with a set-up he didn't create, which included a large void. He has to take some responsibility, but some of you are being a tad naive with the timings, acting as if everything became down to him the minute the paperwork was signed. By his own admission he was kept informed and was part of the decision making from February onwards. He also said he was fully behind the appointment of Siewert. The same as when Dean Hoyle was fully behind the appointment of Stan Ternent…...At the time. |
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Sept 9, 2019 22:56:33 GMT 1
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Post by showboater on Sept 9, 2019 22:56:33 GMT 1
Either we didn;t have any money to spend in the summer ( on top of the £8m or so we were legally obliged to pay for Mbenza ) so Phil can;t just invent money. or We had money, especially after player sales, but Phil decided he didn;t want to give it to the same people who HAD been spending it over the recent windows and would hang on to it until someone better was spending it. Im not sure he deserves criticism for either scenario myself. We would have spent the £8m on Mbenza anyway. On top of that we received roughly £20m on player sales and spent what, £1m? Plus the wages that we wouldn’t be paying anymore... If he didn’t want to spend it because he was waiting for someone better then why didn’t he come in and bring all his own people in? He had his chance and messed up big time. |
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Sept 9, 2019 22:59:58 GMT 1
Hang your head?? Bollox bro.. Nowt proven yet is it.. All those thinking its a masterstroke need to wind their neck in.. Its a big step up for the lad.. When he takes us back to the prem.lg. Ill admit it was a brilliant appointment.. Do you back horses after they've won? |
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Phil H
Sept 9, 2019 23:00:46 GMT 1
Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Sept 9, 2019 23:00:46 GMT 1
By his own admission he was kept informed and was part of the decision making from February onwards. He also said he was fully behind the appointment of Siewert. The same as when Dean Hoyle was fully behind the appointment of Stan Ternent…...At the time. I agree but I'm not questioning his approval of Siewert at the time, nobody knew how shit he'd turn out to be. I'm pointing out that he was part of the decision making long before the i's were dotted and the t's crossed. |
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Post by ringdisco on Sept 9, 2019 23:09:31 GMT 1
Dont mean to be the party pooper here but because its who phil wanted doesnt mean its a genius appointment and we should all hang the bunting out.. Cowley has only managed in lg 1 for a month.. His previous experience being non lg and lg 2.. Hes not pep guardiola.. Its a bit early to start slapping phil on the back.. Granted hes a promising young manager.. But.. Lets not get carried away.. We are still in trouble.. I hope hes the man to turn us around.. But thers a lot of work to do.. Pep? Not impressed. Let him take over Lincoln, see how he does. My dead nan could coach Barcelona, Bayern and City to titles, from the grave. |
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Post by mrbluesky on Sept 9, 2019 23:10:40 GMT 1
Mbenza plus all signings and appointments which btw were bloody awful and are the reason we are in the position we are in now we're not hodgknsons decisions .
He inherited them.
He also acted quickly and sorted the mess out , this will have cost him some serious money.
He did not give Siewart the treasure chest and quite right too cause this appointment was a shocking one and not his - yes he stood up for Siewart and said he will back him , he kind of had to - most people get this but when it was clear he was not the right man he took the right action.
For me so far so good , like others have said , clean slate and let's get behind the new team.
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Post by Captainslapper on Sept 9, 2019 23:14:56 GMT 1
Either we didn;t have any money to spend in the summer ( on top of the £8m or so we were legally obliged to pay for Mbenza ) so Phil can;t just invent money. or We had money, especially after player sales, but Phil decided he didn;t want to give it to the same people who HAD been spending it over the recent windows and would hang on to it until someone better was spending it. Im not sure he deserves criticism for either scenario myself. We would have spent the £8m on Mbenza anyway. On top of that we received roughly £20m on player sales and spent what, £1m? Plus the wages that we wouldn’t be paying anymore... If he didn’t want to spend it because he was waiting for someone better then why didn’t he come in and bring all his own people in? He had his chance and messed up big time. We had to spend the £8m on Mbenza, so altogether we spent about £9m in the summer on transfer fees. It was a mistake to not have a DOF in place IMO but they had identified who they wanted and were having to wait for him. Messing up big time in that situation would have been to give the people who had been sourcing our signings even more money to spend. If we had £25m, would you give them it to bring in more crazily overpriced players who can barely cut it? I certainly wouldn;t have. We now have (hopefully ) a decent manager and a DOF they actually trust to , between them, pick the players we want to sign. And that money, if it exists, is still there so they have something to work with. How is that messing up? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 23:16:16 GMT 1
The same as when Dean Hoyle was fully behind the appointment of Stan Ternent…...At the time. I agree but I'm not questioning his approval of Siewert at the time, nobody knew how shit he'd turn out to be. I'm pointing out that he was part of the decision making long before the i's were dotted and the t's crossed. Just like Dean Hoyle with Stan Ternant. Just like Dean he will learn from mistakes that were made in his Chairmanship infancy. |
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Phil H
Sept 9, 2019 23:35:50 GMT 1
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Post by showboater on Sept 9, 2019 23:35:50 GMT 1
We would have spent the £8m on Mbenza anyway. On top of that we received roughly £20m on player sales and spent what, £1m? Plus the wages that we wouldn’t be paying anymore... If he didn’t want to spend it because he was waiting for someone better then why didn’t he come in and bring all his own people in? He had his chance and messed up big time. We had to spend the £8m on Mbenza, so altogether we spent about £9m in the summer on transfer fees. It was a mistake to not have a DOF in place IMO but they had identified who they wanted and were having to wait for him. Messing up big time in that situation would have been to give the people who had been sourcing our signings even more money to spend. If we had £25m, would you give them it to bring in more crazily overpriced players who can barely cut it? I certainly wouldn;t have. We now have (hopefully ) a decent manager and a DOF they actually trust to , between them, pick the players we want to sign. And that money, if it exists, is still there so they have something to work with. How is that messing up? If Webb was identified, which he was, it wasn’t Phils own man it was from previous. So surely they could get in touch and ask his opinion on players etc... Webb knowing that he was lined up for the job would then not suggest players that he didn’t think could cut it. Siewert was backed by Phil. He even said they had a great time in Austria with players who were committed!! Phil didn’t spend to improve knowing full well that players of better quality would leave. The whole thing is a mess. |
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Sept 9, 2019 23:37:56 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 23:37:56 GMT 1
Well done Phil .... superb appointment Ok phil.. Fuck Me Rigid That’s your saying. Come on drum. Lighten up mate, get a bulb and stick it in. High watts and brighten the fuck up pal x |
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Sept 9, 2019 23:45:11 GMT 1
Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2019 23:45:11 GMT 1
We had to spend the £8m on Mbenza, so altogether we spent about £9m in the summer on transfer fees. It was a mistake to not have a DOF in place IMO but they had identified who they wanted and were having to wait for him. Messing up big time in that situation would have been to give the people who had been sourcing our signings even more money to spend. If we had £25m, would you give them it to bring in more crazily overpriced players who can barely cut it? I certainly wouldn;t have. We now have (hopefully ) a decent manager and a DOF they actually trust to , between them, pick the players we want to sign. And that money, if it exists, is still there so they have something to work with. How is that messing up? If Webb was identified, which he was, it wasn’t Phils own man it was from previous. So surely they could get in touch and ask his opinion on players etc... Webb knowing that he was lined up for the job would then not suggest players that he didn’t think could cut it. Siewert was backed by Phil. He even said they had a great time in Austria with players who were committed!! Phil didn’t spend to improve knowing full well that players of better quality would leave. The whole thing is a mess. So we should have replaced Grant, Kongolo and Schindler then? |
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Sept 9, 2019 23:52:21 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 9, 2019 23:52:21 GMT 1
Time to move forward now. All the infighting has to stop, our focus needs to be the remainder of the season. It’s not just about Sunday, although 3 points is welcome. It’s about the long term, they’ve given 3 and a half years to Lincoln and turned down other clubs like West Brom and Sheffield Wednesday. Phils got his men, maybe that’s why we didn’t spent a lot in the summer? Just a thought. As fans our focus needs to be back on positive energy, clean slate starts now. All the anti Phil carry on needs putting to bed and every player deserves a fresh start, our support has gone off the boil in the last 12 months but that was to be expected since the club forgot how to win. The cowleys wont have come here if they weren’t getting control of everything they wanted control of so Phil must be giving them support off the pitch so it’s up to us to give them the support on the pitch now. I hope these two are real nasty c**** because we’ve been too nice for too long, you don’t become serial winners by being pleasant chaps. UTFT Well they ARE cockneys so they're well on the way to what you ask, don't know about the nasty bit yet though 😉🤣 |
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Sept 9, 2019 23:55:07 GMT 1
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Post by showboater on Sept 9, 2019 23:55:07 GMT 1
If Webb was identified, which he was, it wasn’t Phils own man it was from previous. So surely they could get in touch and ask his opinion on players etc... Webb knowing that he was lined up for the job would then not suggest players that he didn’t think could cut it. Siewert was backed by Phil. He even said they had a great time in Austria with players who were committed!! Phil didn’t spend to improve knowing full well that players of better quality would leave. The whole thing is a mess. So we should have replaced Grant, Kongolo and Schindler then? We knew the players who would leave such as Billing, Zanka, Lowe, Williams etc. They were all of better quality than what we have. We basically kept the lesser players and didn’t improve the squad. Unless you think our squad was just as good without them? Because we definitely were nowhere near as good. Kongolo and Schindler are nothing to shout about anymore. They’re mediocre players in a poor championship side until results improve. |
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Sept 10, 2019 0:00:40 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 10, 2019 0:00:40 GMT 1
Our new chairman deserves a huge amount of credit for what he has done so far , I have said before “he inherited a huge shit sandwhich” and I bet if he had not been a true supporter he would have thought “Stuff this” , I assert strip it - well for me he has proved he is a lifelong fan and truly in this for the right reasons. He inherited (in my opinion) the worst manager in towns history and yes I include Wandsworth . Within his first 6 weeks he sacked him , he will have had to pay off all the contracts of the management team of this truly awful appointment , Winkler , Bell and of course Siewart himself , massive headache , huge problem to deal with and he dealt with it , not cheap but our new chairman took action , I repeat not cheap. He then set a list of who he thought would be best for Huddersfield Town - top of this list were the Crowley brothers, my top list was same plus moyes. The mangement team of Danny and Nicky were also top of the list for West Brom and Sheffield Wednesday, the Cowleys turned them down. This management team right now are hot property,a number of big clubs wanted them - who did they choose ‘Huddersfield Town’ , why , because our new chairman went full on to get who he (plus thousands of fans) wanted to get our club back on track........ no cheap option , he went for who he thought was the best . The best has not come cheap , our new chairman has dug extremely deep , he has been ethical and compassionate to Lincoln City and paid a good club it’s full recompense , to follow this he has then offered the new management team a contract that is enough (huge) to get them on board but not only this he has convinced (and quite rightly as we are a tremendous solid club with a outstanding fan base) the brothers that their journey of success can be shared with his and to the benefit of Huddersfield Town Nothing plotless here. Tremendous Phil - you could not have done more......thank you. Hello Phil, thanks fella 🤣 |
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Sept 10, 2019 0:02:37 GMT 1
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 10, 2019 0:02:37 GMT 1
I’m buzzing. Finally some optimism this season! The Cowley’s seem bright, ambitious and considered. It looks like we are certainly not the first to approach and the fact they have come on board means they must have confidence in Big Phil. I’m just hoping we have ‘bottomed out’ and to be fair being (2nd) bottom of the league there is only one way to go! So pleased to be optimistic about the future again as things just seemed to continue sliding before. My first wish is that they improve our threat from set pieces. We must get 10+ corners and dangerous free kicks a game yet deliver little on this front. Hopefully a bit of organisation all round will see us climbing the league. UTT That'll mean playing Mbenza or Bacuna then, they're the only ones who can take a decent set piece, the gnome doesn't seem to be able to |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 0:03:12 GMT 1
So we should have replaced Grant, Kongolo and Schindler then? We knew the players who would leave such as Billing, Zanka, Lowe, Williams etc. They were all of better quality than what we have. We basically kept the lesser players and didn’t improve the squad. Unless you think our squad was just as good without them? Because we definitely were nowhere near as good. Kongolo and Schindler are nothing to shout about anymore. They’re mediocre players in a poor championship side until results improve. The only player we didn't really replace was Lowe. If you think Kongolo and Schindler are mediocre players words fail me. |
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Post by specialun on Sept 10, 2019 0:03:43 GMT 1
I said earlier in the week these are the first big steps back from a terrible start
First of all
1 - Credit where it’s due. I backed these guys weeks ago. They have a fantastic record at every club they’ve been at - progressing, overachieving and success. They’ve wasn’t their right to be where they are. Whilst it was the obvious choice it certainly wasn’t the easiest. Well done to Phil for sticking at it, paying the cost, taking a risk rather than an old experienced head and not taking the easy choice. It’s a big call and I applaud that
2 - Credit also where it’s due - Phil’s interview came across much more open, honest and didn’t shy away from the fact they originally turned us down. I’ve criticised him for not doing this so again credit here
I can’t switch off from what has been a terrible start to his ownership
These are positive first steps back - but we’re still in a pickle and they’ve still got to work with the poor squad which suffered significant underinvestment in the summer.
If we can stay up Phil has a lifeline - his 2nd / 3rd transfer windows in his 3 window transition have to be a lot better than the first.
For him to get a clean slate I want to see
1. Be more honest - don’t over promise as in the summer
2. Don’t try to be something you’re not
3. If you say something back it up with actions
4. Provide Cowley backing for championship quality players in January
5. Let Cowley / the recruitment team do their jobs - if that means the Lincoln scout in and someone has to leave that is what needs to happen
6. Don’t tell me what position you’ve agreed x or y plays - leave that to your manager
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Sept 10, 2019 2:15:46 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2019 2:15:46 GMT 1
Shame he didn’t approach them in May...I wonder if he didn’t have control or had agreed to keep Jan the twat. It’s a rebuild job now but if they can get it right we’re still top 6 potential. "Jan the twat" maybe it is you who is the twat. If you have nothing constructive to say keep stupid utterances to yourself! Fuck you Bogart. Who elected you judge? Jan was the biggest, shittest twat that’s ever managed the club. Are you one of the ‘constructive’ fans who still think he’d have turned it round? If you don’t like a post or poster use the block function. Otherwise you can smell my 🧀. |
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Sept 10, 2019 4:04:52 GMT 1
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Post by Pork Soda on Sept 10, 2019 4:04:52 GMT 1
"Jan the twat" maybe it is you who is the twat. If you have nothing constructive to say keep stupid utterances to yourself! Fuck you Bogart. Who elected you judge? Jan was the biggest, shittest twat that’s ever managed the club. Are you one of the ‘constructive’ fans who still think he’d have turned it round? If you don’t like a post or poster use the block function. Otherwise you can smell my 🧀. 😂 |
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Sept 10, 2019 4:09:30 GMT 1
Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 10, 2019 4:09:30 GMT 1
PH, best owner we've ever had... ....this season |
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Post by Essex Terrier on Sept 10, 2019 4:13:55 GMT 1
I bloody LOVE DATM.
People on here referencing their credentials for picking Cowley, as if to say "if only you'd have listened to me, this could all have been sorted ages ago"!
Laughing my tits off!
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Post by htfcfcfc on Sept 10, 2019 6:19:59 GMT 1
So we should have replaced Grant, Kongolo and Schindler then? We knew the players who would leave such as Billing, Zanka, Lowe, Williams etc. They were all of better quality than what we have. We basically kept the lesser players and didn’t improve the squad. Unless you think our squad was just as good without them? Because we definitely were nowhere near as good. Kongolo and Schindler are nothing to shout about anymore. They’re mediocre players in a poor championship side until results improve. Is that the Williams who just signed for Pafos? That last sentence makes absolutely zero sense |
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