k1man999
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Post by k1man999 on Jul 13, 2023 9:54:40 GMT 1
There is still a lot that doesn't add up re the financial mess we became after the prem money, player sales etc IMO
But it's gone we are told we are debt free but due to previous mis management we are close to breaking FFP rules.
So be it a season of possibly mediocrity
Although with NW in charge who knows. CC did well with pretty much same core of players and NW is far more experienced in this league.
A proper striker and a midfielder able to break with the ball and il be happy and optimistic
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Post by savilerowtownfan on Jul 13, 2023 10:06:20 GMT 1
We can afford to go to Cornwall on a pre season trip. Reading can afford to go to Spain for there pre season trip. We cannot compete, end of It’s a Warnock tradition. Team building. Score a few goals. Build confidence …not sure last nights result will have helped tho 😂 |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Jul 13, 2023 11:18:22 GMT 1
We can afford to go to Cornwall on a pre season trip. Reading can afford to go to Spain for there pre season trip. We cannot compete, end of Surely the reason we are in Cornwall is to allow NW to be near to his Homebase to extend his stay with his family. He’s not a young man and he’ll be away from home a hell of a lot for the next 9 months. Also, results in these games don’t mean a thing. The only purpose is to build the players fitness - nothing matters until the 5th of August. |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 13, 2023 11:22:19 GMT 1
We can afford to go to Cornwall on a pre season trip. Reading can afford to go to Spain for there pre season trip. We cannot compete, end of Its so Warnock can home for dinner |
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Post by incognito on Jul 13, 2023 11:24:05 GMT 1
We can afford to go to Cornwall on a pre season trip. Reading can afford to go to Spain for there pre season trip. We cannot compete, end of Its so Warnock can home for dinner and show Hoggy his pond |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Jul 13, 2023 11:24:26 GMT 1
I can't believe all the people replying to softboy are unaware of his posting "style"  |
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Post by softboy on Jul 13, 2023 16:26:56 GMT 1
Correct
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jul 13, 2023 19:59:04 GMT 1
According to Nagle, our wage bill was £10.1m last season which was less than half that of the likes Watford, Burnley, West Brom & Norwich, but quite a bit more than three of the play-off sides (Luton, Coventry & Sunderland). He covers a number of subjects in this tweet and the subsequent ones (worth a look at the questions and replies).
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jul 13, 2023 20:45:27 GMT 1
I’m sure he’s making lots of friends revealing every other club’s wage bill 🤷♂️
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 13, 2023 20:45:32 GMT 1
According to Nagle, our wage bill was £10.1m last season which was less than half that of the likes Watford, Burnley, West Brom & Norwich, but quite a bit more than three of the play-off sides (Luton, Coventry & Sunderland). He covers a number of subjects in this tweet and the subsequent ones (worth a look at the questions and replies). I’d be staggered if Sunderland’s wage bill was £10m. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jul 13, 2023 20:54:06 GMT 1
I’m sure he’s making lots of friends revealing every other club’s wage bill 🤷♂️ It's available for anyone to see if they do their research |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 13, 2023 20:55:02 GMT 1
I’m sure he’s making lots of friends revealing every other club’s wage bill 🤷♂️ Isn’t it publicly available? |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jul 13, 2023 21:01:27 GMT 1
I’m sure he’s making lots of friends revealing every other club’s wage bill 🤷♂️ Isn’t it publicly available? Is it? I thought it would only be available in the accounts published the following year. Unless he is comparing the 21/22 wage bills with our 22/23 figure? |
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Post by willo on Jul 13, 2023 21:41:03 GMT 1
According to Nagle, our wage bill was £10.1m last season which was less than half that of the likes Watford, Burnley, West Brom & Norwich, but quite a bit more than three of the play-off sides (Luton, Coventry & Sunderland). He covers a number of subjects in this tweet and the subsequent ones (worth a look at the questions and replies). I’d be staggered if Sunderland’s wage bill was £10m. Wouldn’t be so sure, I’d think Pritchard will be on £8m a year alone. |
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Post by westislandterrier on Jul 13, 2023 21:46:10 GMT 1
According to Nagle, our wage bill was £10.1m last season which was less than half that of the likes Watford, Burnley, West Brom & Norwich, but quite a bit more than three of the play-off sides (Luton, Coventry & Sunderland). He covers a number of subjects in this tweet and the subsequent ones (worth a look at the questions and replies). Some incredible stats there indeed Frankie ! - It just shows what can and cannot be done with the correct and wrong management in charge respectively... What Luton Town achieved is amazing on their spend but just shows that miracles do happen every in the unforgiving and toughest environments like The Championship - Aw well - Over to yer selves Sir Neil and Sir Ronnie ! 😉 |
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Maynardblue
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Post by Maynardblue on Jul 13, 2023 22:15:21 GMT 1
According to Nagle, our wage bill was £10.1m last season which was less than half that of the likes Watford, Burnley, West Brom & Norwich, but quite a bit more than three of the play-off sides (Luton, Coventry & Sunderland). He covers a number of subjects in this tweet and the subsequent ones (worth a look at the questions and replies). I’d be staggered if Sunderland’s wage bill was £10m. Some very odd figures provided by Kevin there. Anyone can have a look at clubs accounts once published and, just as an example, Coventry's (£15m) and Blackburns (£22m) wages bills bare no resemblance to the figures shown in that tweet. Not really sure what that's all about tbh 🤔 |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Jul 13, 2023 22:29:58 GMT 1
I’d be staggered if Sunderland’s wage bill was £10m. Some very odd figures provided by Kevin there. Anyone can have a look at clubs accounts once published and, just as an example, Coventry's (£15m) and Blackburns (£22m) wages bills bare no resemblance to the figures shown in that tweet. Not really sure what that's all about tbh 🤔 I think he needs to dial back on some of the specifics in his tweets, most of his punters will know more than him on some of them. |
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Post by cowshed1992 on Jul 14, 2023 6:08:11 GMT 1
He’s made a rod for his own back engaging with every man and his dog. Particularly given a rather underwhelming start to his tenure. He can quote figures all he likes but the truth is at the moment we are lagging behind every club in this league in the basic intent of trying to improve our squad. It all looks a bit desperate, selling every available fringe player to allow us maybe 2 signings. I fear the league table is going to look fairly worrying after our first 5 games unless someone within the club starts with some actions after all of the words
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Post by Spike24 on Jul 14, 2023 6:34:49 GMT 1
He’s made a rod for his own back engaging with every man and his dog. Particularly given a rather underwhelming start to his tenure. He can quote figures all he likes but the truth is at the moment we are lagging behind every club in this league in the basic intent of trying to improve our squad. It all looks a bit desperate, selling every available fringe player to allow us maybe 2 signings. I fear the league table is going to look fairly worrying after our first 5 games unless someone within the club starts with some actions after all of the words Are you ok hun? |
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Post by cowshed1992 on Jul 14, 2023 7:04:41 GMT 1
He’s made a rod for his own back engaging with every man and his dog. Particularly given a rather underwhelming start to his tenure. He can quote figures all he likes but the truth is at the moment we are lagging behind every club in this league in the basic intent of trying to improve our squad. It all looks a bit desperate, selling every available fringe player to allow us maybe 2 signings. I fear the league table is going to look fairly worrying after our first 5 games unless someone within the club starts with some actions after all of the words Are you ok hun? Yeah, hun. Is all of the above not true? |
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Post by Spike24 on Jul 14, 2023 8:56:38 GMT 1
Yeah, hun. Is all of the above not true? I will call judgement after about 15 games, maybe more. |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Jul 14, 2023 9:54:35 GMT 1
He’s made a rod for his own back engaging with every man and his dog. Particularly given a rather underwhelming start to his tenure. He can quote figures all he likes but the truth is at the moment we are lagging behind every club in this league in the basic intent of trying to improve our squad. It all looks a bit desperate, selling every available fringe player to allow us maybe 2 signings. I fear the league table is going to look fairly worrying after our first 5 games unless someone within the club starts with some actions after all of the words I'd say the appointments of Warnock and this new CEO are far from underwhelming but think your comments regarding player recruitment is probably a fair one. Our finishing position in the league table doesn't tell the full story. Warnock achieved a miracle keeping us up last season. We looked dead, I don't think anyone thought we could survive. Many fans were concerned and were proven right how underprepared Town were going into last season, how the squad looked short of attacking options, it is a growing concern that we've not addressed it and with no Holmes, Hungbo, Anjorin in the squad we have even less options. The recent 0-0 draw to a team 6 leagues below us doesn't help either, friendly or not. Maybe it is just a case of careful financial planning and Town have deals in place with players but wanting/ needing to offload wages before they officially sign the new players. Warnock was suggesting we'd be dipping into the loan market but deals in that respect wouldn't be done until later in August. Quite sure when we've had players from Chelsea, Man City in the past it's been done around this time of the season. So maybe it's not going to be young and up and coming type players but more experienced older heads who are deemed surplus at their parent clubs once the transfer window is drawing to a close. Still think it's too early to judge Nagle. Although he is quite open and honest about the fact he will make mistakes. I know he's owned Sacramento Republic for a number of years but it is different over here, the stakes are a lot higher, we got away with cost cutting last season but we'll only be able to get away with it for so long. |
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Post by goodbet on Jul 14, 2023 10:28:15 GMT 1
He’s made a rod for his own back engaging with every man and his dog. Particularly given a rather underwhelming start to his tenure. He can quote figures all he likes but the truth is at the moment we are lagging behind every club in this league in the basic intent of trying to improve our squad. It all looks a bit desperate, selling every available fringe player to allow us maybe 2 signings. I fear the league table is going to look fairly worrying after our first 5 games unless someone within the club starts with some actions after all of the words I'd say the appointments of Warnock and this new CEO are far from underwhelming but think your comments regarding player recruitment is probably a fair one. Our finishing position in the league table doesn't tell the full story. Warnock achieved a miracle keeping us up last season. We looked dead, I don't think anyone thought we could survive. Many fans were concerned and were proven right how underprepared Town were going into last season, how the squad looked short of attacking options, it is a growing concern that we've not addressed it and with no Holmes, Hungbo, Anjorin in the squad we have even less options. The recent 0-0 draw to a team 6 leagues below us doesn't help either, friendly or not. Maybe it is just a case of careful financial planning and Town have deals in place with players but wanting/ needing to offload wages before they officially sign the new players. Warnock was suggesting we'd be dipping into the loan market but deals in that respect wouldn't be done until later in August. Quite sure when we've had players from Chelsea, Man City in the past it's been done around this time of the season. So maybe it's not going to be young and up and coming type players but more experienced older heads who are deemed surplus at their parent clubs once the transfer window is drawing to a close. Still think it's too early to judge Nagle. Although he is quite open and honest about the fact he will make mistakes. I know he's owned Sacramento Republic for a number of years but it is different over here, the stakes are a lot higher, we got away with cost cutting last season but we'll only be able to get away with it for so long. We have seen that signing on the loan market is not a guaranteed way of strengthening the team, we got lucky before but we may not get so lucky next time. Also it is not a cheap option unless the Premier League team will pay some of the wages. |
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Post by mosher on Jul 14, 2023 10:35:41 GMT 1
Yeah, hun. Is all of the above not true? Is 1992 your DOB? If so I can see why you're bedsheets are damp. Things have been far far worse than they are now. Post-Rubbery was dire, Count Davy's tenure was shite, 70s descent into near-oblivion. Compared to just those three it's a bed of roses now. |
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Post by Detective Boyle on Jul 14, 2023 10:58:18 GMT 1
He’s made a rod for his own back engaging with every man and his dog. Particularly given a rather underwhelming start to his tenure. He can quote figures all he likes but the truth is at the moment we are lagging behind every club in this league in the basic intent of trying to improve our squad. It all looks a bit desperate, selling every available fringe player to allow us maybe 2 signings. I fear the league table is going to look fairly worrying after our first 5 games unless someone within the club starts with some actions after all of the words If you haven’t then please watch the Steven chicken podcast on the finances. I was critical too but it’s there in black and white. Make substantial losses this year and it’s highly likely we will be embargoed in a couple of years with a points deduction to boot. |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 14, 2023 11:01:19 GMT 1
Isn’t it publicly available? Is it? I thought it would only be available in the accounts published the following year. Unless he is comparing the 21/22 wage bills with our 22/23 figure? they have to publish plans and tell the EFL |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 14, 2023 11:06:24 GMT 1
He’s made a rod for his own back engaging with every man and his dog. Particularly given a rather underwhelming start to his tenure. He can quote figures all he likes but the truth is at the moment we are lagging behind every club in this league in the basic intent of trying to improve our squad. It all looks a bit desperate, selling every available fringe player to allow us maybe 2 signings. I fear the league table is going to look fairly worrying after our first 5 games unless someone within the club starts with some actions after all of the words I disagree, i think he's made sound judgements reducing fringe players (some who were poor) where we were clearly overstocked. allows the budget to be focussed on better if fewer players, using our successful young players to fill the gap. I think he has advised us all that £s a hard this year and it will be a slow build to an eventually improved squad. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 14, 2023 11:31:29 GMT 1
I’d be staggered if Sunderland’s wage bill was £10m. Some very odd figures provided by Kevin there. Anyone can have a look at clubs accounts once published and, just as an example, Coventry's (£15m) and Blackburns (£22m) wages bills bare no resemblance to the figures shown in that tweet. Not really sure what that's all about tbh 🤔 This is a genuine question, not an arsey response, are you saying he is wrong? Or he knows ‘actual’ figures, or he has been given bad info? |
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Post by Maynardblue on Jul 14, 2023 11:50:00 GMT 1
Some very odd figures provided by Kevin there. Anyone can have a look at clubs accounts once published and, just as an example, Coventry's (£15m) and Blackburns (£22m) wages bills bare no resemblance to the figures shown in that tweet. Not really sure what that's all about tbh 🤔 This is a genuine question, not an arsey response, are you saying he is wrong? Or he knows ‘actual’ figures, or he has been given bad info? Just stating that the publicly available accounts do the come close to agreeing with these figures. So something isn't quite right. Not casting aspersions at anyone. My guess would be the figures he's quoted have been adjusted to take some things into account but I don't know what that would be. |
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Post by jqhtfc on Jul 14, 2023 12:51:21 GMT 1
According to Nagle, our wage bill was £10.1m last season which was less than half that of the likes Watford, Burnley, West Brom & Norwich, but quite a bit more than three of the play-off sides (Luton, Coventry & Sunderland). He covers a number of subjects in this tweet and the subsequent ones (worth a look at the questions and replies). I’m not sure they’re correct cov for example there wage bill went from 13m to 15m last season |
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