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Jun 29, 2020 22:23:54 GMT 1
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Post by rastrick32 on Jun 29, 2020 22:23:54 GMT 1
Who the fuck thought it was a good idea to sign stearman and Elphick on 2 year contracts and let Jon go for nothing. He's a rolls Royce and the other two are classic Fiats.
Schindler being the sexy Alfa that's been hammered a bit mileage wise in the last couple of years or so, still looks good, but the electrics are failing and its falling apart.
Looks heavy as well like he's carrying a spare tyre.
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Jun 29, 2020 22:24:51 GMT 1
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Post by space hardware on Jun 29, 2020 22:24:51 GMT 1
Still nothing from the club. Amateurish. Really? It's shit, not amateurish, if that's the case.
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Post by impact on Jun 29, 2020 22:28:29 GMT 1
Still nothing from the club. Amateurish. Really? It's shit, not amateurish, if that's the case. I was being kind. I assume they didn't expect the other club to announce it so so quickly. Perhaps they've jumped the gun and it hasn't been finalised. But I'd expect them to say something, whatever it is.
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Jun 29, 2020 22:32:15 GMT 1
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Post by space hardware on Jun 29, 2020 22:32:15 GMT 1
Really? It's shit, not amateurish, if that's the case. I was being kind. I assume they didn't expect the other club to announce it so so quickly. Perhaps they've jumped the gun and it hasn't been finalised. But I'd expect them to say something, whatever it is. I wasn't commenting on your description, more the lack of any communication from the club.
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Jun 29, 2020 22:34:58 GMT 1
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Post by specialun on Jun 29, 2020 22:34:58 GMT 1
There’s a wider point here
He’s out of contract
Should we have offered him another contract? Imo yes without doubt
However do not underestimate the financial impact of Covid
Unless we have a young prospect (cheap) then I expect all first team players out of contract to be released
So at centre half we half Schindler, Edmonds-Green, Stearman and Elphick under contract next season.
Max use of loans from start of the season to fill in the gaps in the squad rather than add to what we have
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Jun 29, 2020 22:41:03 GMT 1
It will be interesting to see just how many out of contract players across the leagues are released at the end of this season. I think there's going to be tough times ahead for most clubs in comparison to recent seasons
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Jun 29, 2020 22:46:33 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2020 22:46:33 GMT 1
I suppose it will be a “buyers market” for the clubs when looking at signing free agents this close season. Players will be taking a reality check on wages unless they are le creme de la creme.
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Post by workshyfop on Jun 29, 2020 22:46:55 GMT 1
Weird that Jarvis is tweeting about him leaving, but the club hasn’t announced it. It’s almost as if ... never mind.
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Post by impact on Jun 29, 2020 22:51:07 GMT 1
I was being kind. I assume they didn't expect the other club to announce it so so quickly. Perhaps they've jumped the gun and it hasn't been finalised. But I'd expect them to say something, whatever it is. I wasn't commenting on your description, more the lack of any communication from the club. Yeah don't worry I got that
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jun 29, 2020 22:58:51 GMT 1
Weird that Jarvis is tweeting about him leaving, but the club hasn’t announced it. It’s almost as if ... never mind. Why do the club need to announce it? He's agreed to stay until the end of the season at which point he'll be announced as being released along with the others who aren't getting a new deal.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 29, 2020 23:00:11 GMT 1
There’s a wider point here He’s out of contract Should we have offered him another contract? Imo yes without doubt However do not underestimate the financial impact of Covid Unless we have a young prospect (cheap) then I expect all first team players out of contract to be released So at centre half we half Schindler, Edmonds-Green, Stearman and Elphick under contract next season. Max use of loans from start of the season to fill in the gaps in the squad rather than add to what we have We had the option of a further year. I'm pretty sure that is a one way thing and that if we wanted to activate it, he is ours for another year (he can't say no). So either the gaffer and his brother don't think he's worth keeping around or their hands are tied and we can't afford to keep him on
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Post by impact on Jun 29, 2020 23:00:25 GMT 1
There’s a wider point here He’s out of contract Should we have offered him another contract? Imo yes without doubt However do not underestimate the financial impact of Covid Unless we have a young prospect (cheap) then I expect all first team players out of contract to be released So at centre half we half Schindler, Edmonds-Green, Stearman and Elphick under contract next season. Max use of loans from start of the season to fill in the gaps in the squad rather than add to what we have But that's such short-termism. He is one of few players on our books with real potential and the ability to command a decent transfer fee. If it was needing to offer a brand new contract and he wanted more then I could sort of get it. But we had the option to extend it by a year. I'd be absolutely shocked if he's on more than 20k pw - 1m pa - given he came as a young prospect. I believe he could command a fee a fair bit in excess of that if we actually play him. Can we really not afford £1m to invest in a player who may have some serious potential? Are we really that strapped of cash?
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Post by space hardware on Jun 29, 2020 23:06:01 GMT 1
There’s a wider point here He’s out of contract Should we have offered him another contract? Imo yes without doubt However do not underestimate the financial impact of Covid Unless we have a young prospect (cheap) then I expect all first team players out of contract to be released So at centre half we half Schindler, Edmonds-Green, Stearman and Elphick under contract next season. Max use of loans from start of the season to fill in the gaps in the squad rather than add to what we have But that's such short-termism. He is one of few players on our books with real potential and the ability to command a decent transfer fee. If it was needing to offer a brand new contract and he wanted more then I could sort of get it. But we had the option to extend it by a year. I'd be absolutely shocked if he's on more than 20k pw - 1m pa - given he came as a young prospect. I believe he could command a fee a fair bit in excess of that if we actually play him. Can we really not afford £1m to invest in a player who may have some serious potential? Are we really that strapped of cash? Alexa, give me an example of a rhetorical question.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Jun 29, 2020 23:38:36 GMT 1
Weird that Jarvis is tweeting about him leaving, but the club hasn’t announced it. It’s almost as if ... never mind. Has the club tweeted that Jarvis has left? Was there anything on the club's website about him leaving?
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Jun 29, 2020 23:58:05 GMT 1
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Jun 29, 2020 23:58:05 GMT 1
There’s a wider point here He’s out of contract Should we have offered him another contract? Imo yes without doubt However do not underestimate the financial impact of Covid Unless we have a young prospect (cheap) then I expect all first team players out of contract to be released So at centre half we half Schindler, Edmonds-Green, Stearman and Elphick under contract next season. Max use of loans from start of the season to fill in the gaps in the squad rather than add to what we have We had the option of a further year. I'm pretty sure that is a one way thing and that if we wanted to activate it, he is ours for another year (he can't say no). So either the gaffer and his brother don't think he's worth keeping around or their hands are tied and we can't afford to keep him on Maybe the options we had on players expired by us not taking them up before their contract expiry date of 30th June? In which case, if we are still unable to commit to offering him a deal and he's got a good offer from a club comparatively closer to home, perhaps he decided he didn't want to risk waiting around to see what happens and that pushed him into making the move.
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Jun 30, 2020 0:26:45 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2020 0:26:45 GMT 1
There’s a wider point here He’s out of contract Should we have offered him another contract? Imo yes without doubt However do not underestimate the financial impact of Covid Unless we have a young prospect (cheap) then I expect all first team players out of contract to be released So at centre half we half Schindler, Edmonds-Green, Stearman and Elphick under contract next season. Max use of loans from start of the season to fill in the gaps in the squad rather than add to what we have But that's such short-termism. He is one of few players on our books with real potential and the ability to command a decent transfer fee. If it was needing to offer a brand new contract and he wanted more then I could sort of get it. But we had the option to extend it by a year. I'd be absolutely shocked if he's on more than 20k pw - 1m pa - given he came as a young prospect. I believe he could command a fee a fair bit in excess of that if we actually play him. Can we really not afford £1m to invest in a player who may have some serious potential? Are we really that strapped of cash? More concerned that we haven't taken the option on Schofield yet, who'll be on peanuts compared to Stankovic and surely we'd want to keep him whichever division we're in.
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Jun 30, 2020 1:03:05 GMT 1
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Post by TTCMatt on Jun 30, 2020 1:03:05 GMT 1
There’s a wider point here He’s out of contract Should we have offered him another contract? Imo yes without doubt However do not underestimate the financial impact of Covid Unless we have a young prospect (cheap) then I expect all first team players out of contract to be released So at centre half we half Schindler, Edmonds-Green, Stearman and Elphick under contract next season. Max use of loans from start of the season to fill in the gaps in the squad rather than add to what we have We had the option of a further year. I'm pretty sure that is a one way thing and that if we wanted to activate it, he is ours for another year (he can't say no). So either the gaffer and his brother don't think he's worth keeping around or their hands are tied and we can't afford to keep him on Or turned down a new contract offer and said he wanted to leave?
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Jun 30, 2020 6:34:24 GMT 1
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jun 30, 2020 6:34:24 GMT 1
We had the option of a further year. I'm pretty sure that is a one way thing and that if we wanted to activate it, he is ours for another year (he can't say no). So either the gaffer and his brother don't think he's worth keeping around or their hands are tied and we can't afford to keep him on Or turned down a new contract offer and said he wanted to leave? It's not an option for the player, it's an option for the club. If they decide to activate that extra year then the contract extends and there isn't anything the player can do about it. So we obviously decided not to activate it for whatever reason
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jun 30, 2020 6:36:27 GMT 1
Weird that Jarvis is tweeting about him leaving, but the club hasn’t announced it. It’s almost as if ... never mind. Why do the club need to announce it? He's agreed to stay until the end of the season at which point he'll be announced as being released along with the others who aren't getting a new deal. Because we live in a ‘I want it now’ world. Football fans who harp on about how the game has changed for the worse, players just bothered about Instagram, yet in the same vein expect an instantaneous social media news post about transfer activity.
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Jun 30, 2020 7:07:38 GMT 1
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jun 30, 2020 7:07:38 GMT 1
Why do the club need to announce it? He's agreed to stay until the end of the season at which point he'll be announced as being released along with the others who aren't getting a new deal. Because we live in a ‘I want it now’ world. Football fans who harp on about how the game has changed for the worse, players just bothered about Instagram, yet in the same vein expect an instantaneous social media news post about transfer activity. I don’t expect an announcement last night but the news has broke now so I can’t see how the club can bury there head in the sand The club have two options One. Be true to their stated values - Honesty, Integrity, Trust, Commitment, Pride, Respect, Quality, Value, Success and Character Tell the fans what is happening Two. Say nothing despite it being public. Treat the fans like mushrooms
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Post by Grim on Jun 30, 2020 7:25:44 GMT 1
There’s a wider point here He’s out of contract Should we have offered him another contract? Imo yes without doubt However do not underestimate the financial impact of Covid Unless we have a young prospect (cheap) then I expect all first team players out of contract to be released So at centre half we half Schindler, Edmonds-Green, Stearman and Elphick under contract next season. Max use of loans from start of the season to fill in the gaps in the squad rather than add to what we have But that's such short-termism. He is one of few players on our books with real potential and the ability to command a decent transfer fee. If it was needing to offer a brand new contract and he wanted more then I could sort of get it. But we had the option to extend it by a year. I'd be absolutely shocked if he's on more than 20k pw - 1m pa - given he came as a young prospect. I believe he could command a fee a fair bit in excess of that if we actually play him. Can we really not afford £1m to invest in a player who may have some serious potential? Are we really that strapped of cash? Yes we are that skint... there will be further serious cost cutting this summer, including if we stay up.
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Post by hthtafs on Jun 30, 2020 7:57:04 GMT 1
Gutted .... we’ve wasted money on Elphick and Steaman when this lad is superior and the future. Our back four should have been reshaped with him and toffolo plus a new centre back and right back.
Didn’t the club understand the issues in bringing in the likes of elphick, simpson, king & Campbell
All of a sudden we’re skint. Please don’t mention COVID as were one of the least effected club given the Joke revenue we receive from gate receipts & match day revenue. Hoyle talked about the club being sustainable the truth is he handed over a crock of shit to Phil, and he’s not really got to grips with the magnitude of the issues.
PS Well done for changing seats - now pay the bill. Let’s have a first class training facility owned by someone else that we can’t pay the bill for. Madness!
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Post by TTCMatt on Jun 30, 2020 10:13:28 GMT 1
Or turned down a new contract offer and said he wanted to leave? It's not an option for the player, it's an option for the club. If they decide to activate that extra year then the contract extends and there isn't anything the player can do about it. So we obviously decided not to activate it for whatever reason Yes, we all know that. But again, if he's said that he wanted to leave, then what's the point in extending the contract of someone who doesn't want to be here?
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Post by dugnet on Jun 30, 2020 10:28:53 GMT 1
Going back to Stankovic as a player. Really unlucky with injuries, clearly has footballing ability, lacks physicality (which may mean he is suited to European football) but also a good character who has never let us down. Hope he goes on to have a good career.
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Post by Five Lamps on Jun 30, 2020 10:58:10 GMT 1
Good move for the lad, Needs regular game time and its what, 150 miles from the capital of his home country.I think this is a big point that's hard to ignore, much like Löwe deciding to move back to East Germany last summer. We can't say for sure how many clubs around England and Europe were interested in him, but you have to feel that being so close to the Slovenian border must be some factor in moving to Graz. Got to remember he's a young-ish lad who's had a few tough years away from home (injuries, lack of playing opportunities). Hope he gets the chance for some regular game time and maybe a shot at European football if they get their arses in gear next year.
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Jun 30, 2020 11:01:25 GMT 1
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Post by crux on Jun 30, 2020 11:01:25 GMT 1
I'm not sure what the club can 'announce' on Stankovic, beyond the fact that he extended his contract to 30th July. We currently hold his registration, so he can't actually sign for anybody else at the moment.
Also as they said last week, no decisions will be made on renewing contracts or taking up options until they know which division they'll be playing in.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jun 30, 2020 11:24:39 GMT 1
I really don't get why folk are getting their knickers in a twist about a player who's made 43 appearances in 4 years at the club under 3 different managers. If he was as good as some folk think he is, then why hasn't a top end Championship club tried to sign him rather than a team playing in the 15th ranked league in Europe?
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Post by iangreaves on Jun 30, 2020 11:32:06 GMT 1
There’s a wider point here He’s out of contract Should we have offered him another contract? Imo yes without doubt However do not underestimate the financial impact of Covid Unless we have a young prospect (cheap) then I expect all first team players out of contract to be released So at centre half we half Schindler, Edmonds-Green, Stearman and Elphick under contract next season. Max use of loans from start of the season to fill in the gaps in the squad rather than add to what we have We had the option of a further year. I'm pretty sure that is a one way thing and that if we wanted to activate it, he is ours for another year (he can't say no). So either the gaffer and his brother don't think he's worth keeping around or their hands are tied and we can't afford to keep him on Maybe Stankovic told the club he wanted to leave to get regular first team football.
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Jun 30, 2020 11:39:55 GMT 1
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Post by bluesandtwos on Jun 30, 2020 11:39:55 GMT 1
Whichever league we are in the Cowleys need room to rebuild and Jon was an obvious candidate to go if his contract was up. Never became a regular under any manager, though as has been said the injury hit him just as he was finding his feet with us. This league or the one below we need a strong back four and that is not really Jon’s game. The best of luck to a very likeable player.
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