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Post by Mr Breitside on Apr 9, 2021 18:09:20 GMT 1
Whilst paying him for 8 weeks even though he won't play ain't great, it won't put us into Administration will it. The lad won't have played for a full season and only played about 3 games the season before. So near enough 2 seasons without playing Unless we offer him a contract for next season, he'll once again go into the summer without a club and his chances of getting one diminished. As I say, football is his career and this was an opportunity for him to kick start it again. He's lost that opportunity Surely our insurance will pay out? Only Town could do deals like this. This season has been absolute joke where signings has been concerned. Ward, Arrons, Niasse, Grant all signed and injured. Don’t forget Leutwiler... another shit signing if he is behind Pereira.
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Post by Toxic Ted on Apr 9, 2021 18:29:00 GMT 1
I’m not sure we actually sign players.
Does leutwiler exist? No one has ever seem him, I think we made him up in a tax fiddle.
The real Niasse is on a beach somewhere blissfully unaware that his identity was stolen by us putting a looky-likey in a Town shirt, announcing we’d signed him to appease the fans then declaring he was out for the season before the scam was rumbled when he staggered around the pitch like Ali Dai.
Danny Grant? Some random Irish chap we pay to wander around speaking with an indecipherable accent in a club jumper.
Danny Ward retired in June. The chap we call ‘Danny Ward’ was the landlord of ‘The Cart Horse’ pub in Southport. Phil had an unsettled tab so set him up as a ringer to call it quits. The deal was he’d never actually get on the pitch but a late night ‘double or quits’ Jaffa Cake eating competition saw him make the first XI on Tuesday.
Duane Holmes moved back to America in January. Luckily, one of our sponsors had a son who looks a bit like him so we had him a kit made up. It worked a great because he okays like him too.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 18:56:44 GMT 1
If you think the injury to Niasse, caused by a player going through him as he went down, opening him up and overstretching beyond his natural extension, is anything other than coincidental, then we need to call in an exorcist. So, are you saying all these lengthy injuries are entirely down to bad luck? Well at least 4 of them definitely are just unlucky... ...we can guess at the rest, I have my thoughts but people get angry when the discussion heads towards Training Stress Balance, and how you build and maintain load without having a complete pre-season programme away from competitive action. I certainly do think there are big questions on whether Callum Walsh, Dan Hughes, and Callum Adams (who have been in the performance management roles at Town since before CC came along) have been able to adapt and monitor programmes effectively, given we're wanting players to perform at a higher level physically than they might have got away with under the Cowleys.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Apr 9, 2021 19:03:30 GMT 1
So, are you saying all these lengthy injuries are entirely down to bad luck? Well at least 4 of them definitely are just unlucky... ...we can guess at the rest, I have my thoughts but people get angry when the discussion heads towards Training Stress Balance, and how you build and maintain load without having a complete pre-season programme away from competitive action. I certainly do think there are big questions on whether Callum Walsh, Dan Hughes, and Callum Adams (who have been in the performance management roles at Town since before CC came along) have been able to adapt and monitor programmes effectively, given we're wanting players to perform at a higher level physically than they might have got away with under the Cowleys. So, you agree a review should be carried out?
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Apr 9, 2021 19:06:19 GMT 1
Surely our insurance will pay out? Only Town could do deals like this. This season has been absolute joke where signings has been concerned. Ward, Arrons, Niasse, Grant all signed and injured. Don’t forget Leutwiler... another shit signing if he is behind Pereira. Is he injured though? The players that I have listed were all signed and are now - or have been - out injured long term.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2021 21:31:24 GMT 1
Well at least 4 of them definitely are just unlucky... ...we can guess at the rest, I have my thoughts but people get angry when the discussion heads towards Training Stress Balance, and how you build and maintain load without having a complete pre-season programme away from competitive action. I certainly do think there are big questions on whether Callum Walsh, Dan Hughes, and Callum Adams (who have been in the performance management roles at Town since before CC came along) have been able to adapt and monitor programmes effectively, given we're wanting players to perform at a higher level physically than they might have got away with under the Cowleys. So, you agree a review should be carried out? Not necessarily. Would depend on all sorts of data and info that we don't have access to. We as fans have no idea what measured (and perhaps even enforced) risks have had to be taken with players throughout the season that would contribute to them being susceptible to injury. Likewise we as fans have no idea what kind of state some of the players might have been at, coming in to the season. If they were down on fitness sufficiently that a consideration was made that they HAD to ramp up, otherwise we'd likely see ourselves fighting in the bottom 3 or 5, then I'd take overloading chronic training load to get the fitness ramped, but also increasing risk of losing a few along the way to injury, especially if I had reasonable trust in 14 or 15 players being able to contribute effectively on the pitch rather than be passengers. There's really very little difference in the kind of injury that ends up in a Grade 1 ham pull that keeps a player out for 2 to 3 weeks, a Grade 2 that turns that into a couple of months, or a complete rupture which can mean 2 or 3 months out plus surgery and another 2 or 3 months recovery. As such - given we don't have the data, there's no point getting hung up about it. It is what it is - I'm sure some smart arse will correct me with 1 or 2 cases, but I don't think there's really been many muscle injuries occurring in players who have been in and around the team, for some months now...I think Hogg with his calf is the only real player that has been out injured afresh, and that was for only a week or two. Pretty much all the other recentish injuries are players joining and breaking down early...possibly over exerting to force into a team, which just isn't possible at this level if you've been out for a while. Aarons slipped on the snow, and Eiting had some kind of knee stability issue, can't remember the game he went off but would guess that would be an impact injury rather than being an excuse for whiny folk to point at training methods. Toffolo reportedly has a back injury, again, not really a typical over-training type thing. Vallejo got a whack in the head, Has anyone else actually picked up an injury this calendar year? (I don't include Pritchard - he MUST be taking the piss surely?).
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Post by bluesandtwos on Apr 9, 2021 21:51:25 GMT 1
Mbenza, who returned early and had more pre-season than the others, has played over 38 hours of football this season. He has had a couple of niggles but that is a decent run. So maybe a proper pre-season would have improved our injuries. He is not as physical as some players so may not get the same strains but he has kept pretty fit.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Apr 9, 2021 23:19:41 GMT 1
Mbenza, who returned early and had more pre-season than the others, has played over 38 hours of football this season. He has had a couple of niggles but that is a decent run. So maybe a proper pre-season would have improved our injuries. He is not as physical as some players so may not get the same strains but he has kept pretty fit. He may have been on the pitch for over 38 hours, but calling it 'playing' is stretching it
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Post by dsq1011 on Apr 10, 2021 2:08:47 GMT 1
For the majority of my 49 years we have been at best ok, but normally shit. We've always had injured players ffs. Booths knees look to work backwards and the other way round to everybody elses. Marcus Stewart looked like he had the legs of a dead horse for almost 12 months. My favourite other players were Chris Marsden and craig maskell. Who both got injured a lot. The club is rotten at the moment,from top to bottom. Niasse's injury isn't the cause of it. We are in an absolute mess and it could get a lot fucking worse later today. I dont think Niasse planned his injury. I hope we stay up and actually survive. I hope Niasse is ok and might play for us and score for us. Shit times. Lots of it self inflicted
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Post by Toxic Ted on Apr 10, 2021 7:02:31 GMT 1
We have a shockingly thin squad devoid of quality.
Any injury will affect us far more than a club with reasonable depth.
The problem isn’t the injuries, it’s the squad being cut so close to the bone that any loss of a first team player feels like a serious issue.
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Post by willo on Apr 10, 2021 9:00:49 GMT 1
It’s been so long since we saw some players, I’d forgotten they were still with us. Others we’ve signed that haven’t even pulled on the shirt I’ve no idea what they even look like. What a shit season this has been on so many levels.
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Post by The King's Head 1230 on Apr 10, 2021 9:18:45 GMT 1
It was always going to be a shit season for the reasons already discussed to death. It's all about staying in this division, clearing the deadwood & rotten apples. We've had some bad luck with Oumar. I was quite excited about this signing thinking he would score 4/5 goals to ensure safety. Hopefully he fully recovers he seems a good fit for us a bit of a risk but a lot to prove. His interviews & attitude seems good so hope he gets a contract for next season. #Stay in this fucking division.
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Post by digs on Apr 10, 2021 9:49:26 GMT 1
For the majority of my 49 years we have been at best ok, but normally shit. We've always had injured players ffs. Booths knees look to work backwards and the other way round to everybody elses. Marcus Stewart looked like he had the legs of a dead horse for almost 12 months. My favourite other players were Chris Marsden and craig maskell. Who both got injured a lot. The club is rotten at the moment,from top to bottom. Niasse's injury isn't the cause of it. We are in an absolute mess and it could get a lot fucking worse later today. I dont think Niasse planned his injury. I hope we stay up and actually survive. I hope Niasse is ok and might play for us and score for us. Shit times. Lots of it self inflicted It would take some right planning and bribery to get a player to fall on top of you,
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Post by specialun on Apr 10, 2021 10:36:31 GMT 1
So, are you saying all these lengthy injuries are entirely down to bad luck? Well at least 4 of them definitely are just unlucky... ...we can guess at the rest, I have my thoughts but people get angry when the discussion heads towards Training Stress Balance, and how you build and maintain load without having a complete pre-season programme away from competitive action. I certainly do think there are big questions on whether Callum Walsh, Dan Hughes, and Callum Adams (who have been in the performance management roles at Town since before CC came along) have been able to adapt and monitor programmes effectively, given we're wanting players to perform at a higher level physically than they might have got away with under the Cowleys. When will we see them perform at a higher level physically? We aren’t! Our second half record is more or less the same as our first - slightly better to be fair, but difference minus 10 v first half 8. Doesn’t suggest we’re fitter and excel in second halves Our performances and results have been on a downward spiral since we burnt out in October We aren’t fit enough to press not helped by Carlos lack of use of subs til recently We pressed for the first month arguably two of the season We managed to press for 10 mins v Brentford
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Post by ACW on Apr 10, 2021 11:58:40 GMT 1
Mbenza, who returned early and had more pre-season than the others, has played over 38 hours of football this season. He has had a couple of niggles but that is a decent run. So maybe a proper pre-season would have improved our injuries. He is not as physical as some players so may not get the same strains but he has kept pretty fit. He may have been on the pitch for over 38 hours, but calling it 'playing' is stretching it Been up and down, and when he's crap he's terrible, but scored and created more goals than most. We'd be in deep shit without his goals and assists this season.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 10, 2021 12:54:31 GMT 1
28 pages on a player that will never kick a ball for us
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Post by Ibiza Town on Apr 10, 2021 13:24:50 GMT 1
He may have been on the pitch for over 38 hours, but calling it 'playing' is stretching it Been up and down, and when he's crap he's terrible, but scored and created more goals than most. We'd be in deep shit without his goals and assists this season. Fair enough. I'd say he played about 18 out of the 38
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Post by orinoco on Apr 10, 2021 19:29:03 GMT 1
Just had news update he is out for season☺ hope for better recruitment next season, which will be last subsidised season.
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