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Post by daftmidge on Mar 2, 2021 22:41:14 GMT 1
1st half of the season the squad was stronger or at least we had Koromas goals as well. A lot of our losses have been by one goal since then.
I still support Carlos and let's be honest sacking him costs money. The problem is the squad depth not the manager. Who would/could keep us up if he can't?
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Mar 2, 2021 23:02:17 GMT 1
1st half of the season the squad was stronger or at least we had Koromas goals as well. A lot of our losses have been by one goal since then. I still support Carlos and let's be honest sacking him costs money. The problem is the squad depth not the manager. Who would/could keep us up if he can't? I was very much of this opinion until tonight, then you look at his game management and substitutions, unfortunately you have to wonder what is going through his head? At 1-1, he almost accepted a draw and didn't go for the win against a side who were as bad as we were, looked absolutely petrified to lose another game.
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Post by daftmidge on Mar 2, 2021 23:20:57 GMT 1
1st half of the season the squad was stronger or at least we had Koromas goals as well. A lot of our losses have been by one goal since then. I still support Carlos and let's be honest sacking him costs money. The problem is the squad depth not the manager. Who would/could keep us up if he can't? I was very much of this opinion until tonight, then you look at his game management and substitutions, unfortunately you have to wonder what is going through his head? At 1-1, he almost accepted a draw and didn't go for the win against a side who were as bad as we were, looked absolutely petrified to lose another game. With our defence I imagine he was petrified to be honest but I don't think a change of manager saves us. Unless your telling me the squad has given up on him. In which case were fucked just put a caretaker in and hope for the best. One thing I will say about town managerwise is I've been surprised before so who knows ultimately.
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Post by htfc63 on Mar 2, 2021 23:25:17 GMT 1
I have defended Carlos however I must admit I think he is out of his depth as are his back room staff. Yes he has had it hard in terms of recruitment and injuries however there is no strength of character from him. I struggle to understand the guy and what he says seems erratic. We need leaders on the pitch however I cannot see true leadership and inspiration off it. His rigidity in sticking to his game plan means every team in the league knows what to expect and hence sets up to close down our defenders, obtain corners and free kicks by any means and generally bully us. The sense of urgency is palpable and our lack of movement especially up front means that few opportunities are likely to become available for us in many games. He obviously does not have the staff to coach defending set pieces or the know how to train without picking up prolonged injuries. I am beginning to feel sorry for him as he looks lost for ideas and does not know how soon to change things during games. Any other league club would have sacked him by now however financially that does not seem to be an option for us. I only hope there are three teams worse than us as radical change is needed regarding mentality, squad and leadership in the club.
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Post by alexdire on Mar 2, 2021 23:47:52 GMT 1
In REG and Critchlow we have two players who have the ability to become good championship level centre backs. My worry is now, under Coberan, they've no chance to fulfill any potential they have. He is clueless about setting up a defence.
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Post by willo on Mar 3, 2021 0:05:36 GMT 1
The thing is if it’s decided there’s to be a changing of the guard, who do we bring in? Cook now the Ipswich manager and he was the one name being touted around and favoured by a fair few so who else is out there? Not another young inexperienced coach please.
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Post by Armchair Pundit on Mar 3, 2021 0:29:23 GMT 1
I’ve changed my mind. I have felt sorry for him because he has been sold out by the board and not backed with his kind of players. Injuries have also not helped.
But today’s tactics and performance was awful. We were crap. And more importantly. We are a boring team to watch. We can’t defend. Yet we play a defensive formation at home against another team that is struggling. That stems from the manager.
Absolute rubbish. He should go.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Mar 3, 2021 1:20:40 GMT 1
I make it 9 points from the last 42 available since he's been given his new contract. We've also lost to lower league opposition in that time.
Has to go but we can't afford it.
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Post by willo on Mar 3, 2021 1:26:07 GMT 1
I’ve changed my mind. I have felt sorry for him because he has been sold out by the board and not backed with his kind of players. Injuries have also not helped. But today’s tactics and performance was awful. We were crap. And more importantly. We are a boring team to watch. We can’t defend. Yet we play a defensive formation at home against another team that is struggling. That stems from the manager. Absolute rubbish. He should go. Hate to say it cos I’m not one for hiring & firing repeatedly but he’s lost me now too. Shame as he’s been really hampered by not being able to recruit properly (the odd player aside) and the number of injuries to key players.
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Post by impact on Mar 3, 2021 2:32:13 GMT 1
Let's say for a minute Carlos gets sacked. I don't see it happening but play it out.
Short term we'll have Schofield and someone else on the coaching staff taking charge. People who have had so little impact on the current crop of players.
But who do you get in? What manager would want to come to a club which has sacked 3 managers in 18 months, has barely invested in the squad despite promising to so and come into an atmosphere full of despair and anger?
And would you rather spend a huge whack on a new short-term appointment than actually investing in the squad in the summer?
It seems like a pointless exercise to me this season. The summer, maybe.
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Post by Wagner Uber Alles on Mar 3, 2021 11:24:17 GMT 1
Let's say for a minute Carlos gets sacked. I don't see it happening but play it out. Short term we'll have Schofield and someone else on the coaching staff taking charge. People who have had so little impact on the current crop of players. But who do you get in? What manager would want to come to a club which has sacked 3 managers in 18 months, has barely invested in the squad despite promising to so and come into an atmosphere full of despair and anger? And would you rather spend a huge whack on a new short-term appointment than actually investing in the squad in the summer? It seems like a pointless exercise to me this season. The summer, maybe. I realise it's unlikely, but I do wonder whether Wagner would be a) willing to return and b) able, to sort this mess out...at least as a consultant / mentor to CC for the rest of the season.
He exhausted his abilities to remain in the PL, but that's no shame, there are countless managers with a similar record. He's got the proven ability to organise and motivate a Championship team. If I ever win the Euromillions I'll be on the phone to him immediately
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Post by impact on Mar 3, 2021 12:15:49 GMT 1
Let's say for a minute Carlos gets sacked. I don't see it happening but play it out. Short term we'll have Schofield and someone else on the coaching staff taking charge. People who have had so little impact on the current crop of players. But who do you get in? What manager would want to come to a club which has sacked 3 managers in 18 months, has barely invested in the squad despite promising to so and come into an atmosphere full of despair and anger? And would you rather spend a huge whack on a new short-term appointment than actually investing in the squad in the summer? It seems like a pointless exercise to me this season. The summer, maybe. I realise it's unlikely, but I do wonder whether Wagner would be a) willing to return and b) able, to sort this mess out...at least as a consultant / mentor to CC for the rest of the season. He exhausted his abilities to remain in the PL, but that's no shame, there are countless managers with a similar record. He's got the proven ability to organise and motivate a Championship team. If I ever win the Euromillions I'll be on the phone to him immediately I'd love Wagner back next season. But not where we are currently. It's a relegation scrap. He wouldn't come back though. There's nothing to gain.
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Post by iangreaves on Mar 3, 2021 12:34:45 GMT 1
Let's say for a minute Carlos gets sacked. I don't see it happening but play it out. Short term we'll have Schofield and someone else on the coaching staff taking charge. People who have had so little impact on the current crop of players. But who do you get in? What manager would want to come to a club which has sacked 3 managers in 18 months, has barely invested in the squad despite promising to so and come into an atmosphere full of despair and anger? And would you rather spend a huge whack on a new short-term appointment than actually investing in the squad in the summer? It seems like a pointless exercise to me this season. The summer, maybe. I realise it's unlikely, but I do wonder whether Wagner would be a) willing to return and b) able, to sort this mess out...at least as a consultant / mentor to CC for the rest of the season. He exhausted his abilities to remain in the PL, but that's no shame, there are countless managers with a similar record. He's got the proven ability to organise and motivate a Championship team. If I ever win the Euromillions I'll be on the phone to him immediately Not sure he was happy with the set-up towards the end. The recruitment team was supplying him with players he didn't play because he believed they were not good enough. Was it the new owner or chief exec who had a pop at Wagner saying, "We won't in future be recruiting wingers, then switching to a formation without wingers." That, to me, says Wagner didn't fancy the players he was given. I get the feeling nothing has changed in that regard.
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Post by BerksTerrier84 on Mar 3, 2021 13:19:58 GMT 1
Does anyone know if Carlos is under pressure or close to being sacked? Or is Phil going to keep him regardless of results/divisional status?
The long balls we played last night would suggest the former, but I’ve not seen any suggestion the club are looking at the managerial situation.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Mar 3, 2021 13:25:41 GMT 1
Does anyone know if Carlos is under pressure or close to being sacked? Or is Phil going to keep him regardless of results/divisional status? The long balls we played last night would suggest the former, but I’ve not seen any suggestion the club are looking at the managerial situation. if I remember last time all the work to bring in a new manager was very hush hush. They're not going to make this public are they? Phil would look a right fool.
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Post by ambryboy on Mar 3, 2021 13:30:05 GMT 1
Does anyone know if Carlos is under pressure or close to being sacked? Or is Phil going to keep him regardless of results/divisional status? The long balls we played last night would suggest the former, but I’ve not seen any suggestion the club are looking at the managerial situation. if I remember last time all the work to bring in a new manager was very hush hush. They're not going to make this public are they? Phil would look a right fool. He already does for me
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Post by BerksTerrier84 on Mar 3, 2021 13:50:47 GMT 1
Does anyone know if Carlos is under pressure or close to being sacked? Or is Phil going to keep him regardless of results/divisional status? The long balls we played last night would suggest the former, but I’ve not seen any suggestion the club are looking at the managerial situation. if I remember last time all the work to bring in a new manager was very hush hush. They're not going to make this public are they? Phil would look a right fool. No, but normally if a manager is under pressure we hear rumblings in the press and on social media.
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Post by blanquiazules on Mar 3, 2021 14:12:00 GMT 1
If we are relegated then only 2 conclusions can be drawn, either the coaching wasn’t good enough or the board didn’t support the coach with a squad with enough quality/depth.
Based on previous comments relating to 5 strikers and last year’s squad being top 6 on paper, I suspect Phil won’t come down on the side of it being the board’s fault so he will have to sack the coach (again) regardless that most observers would probably conclude the other was the bigger issue.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Mar 3, 2021 14:52:25 GMT 1
if I remember last time all the work to bring in a new manager was very hush hush. They're not going to make this public are they? Phil would look a right fool. No, but normally if a manager is under pressure we hear rumblings in the press and on social media. i don't know about that. The cowleys sacking came completely out of the blue.
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Post by BerksTerrier84 on Mar 3, 2021 15:05:00 GMT 1
No, but normally if a manager is under pressure we hear rumblings in the press and on social media. i don't know about that. The cowleys sacking came completely out of the blue. True, but often you do hear murmurs of discontent before sackings.
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Post by greyarea on Mar 3, 2021 15:20:54 GMT 1
I realise it's unlikely, but I do wonder whether Wagner would be a) willing to return and b) able, to sort this mess out...at least as a consultant / mentor to CC for the rest of the season. He exhausted his abilities to remain in the PL, but that's no shame, there are countless managers with a similar record. He's got the proven ability to organise and motivate a Championship team. If I ever win the Euromillions I'll be on the phone to him immediately Not sure he was happy with the set-up towards the end. The recruitment team was supplying him with players he didn't play because he believed they were not good enough. Was it the new owner or chief exec who had a pop at Wagner saying, "We won't in future be recruiting wingers, then switching to a formation without wingers." That, to me, says Wagner didn't fancy the players he was given. I get the feeling nothing has changed in that regard. Wagner was quite right in his assessment of the wingers/wide players bought. Sobhi played twice for us. Diakhaby is possibly the worst signing Town have made in recent times. Never looked like he could play and has thankfully gone Mbenza sat for 2 years doing nothing. Decided to give it a go this season as his contact is up. Some skills for sure, but a regular premier League Wiseman? Never in a million years. Wagner was right to switch to a 343 and a 5311 which we played for most of our 2nd premier League season. Until Siewert came in swapped Town to a 433 and lost every game bar the freak Wolves at home result. Move proof of it was ever needed that our widemen were gash.
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Post by Towner47 on Mar 3, 2021 15:35:29 GMT 1
My concern is that not one of his inherited players,other than Koroma ,have improved under his tenure. I find him extremely hard to understand I wonder if all these sift tissues injuries ( let's face it there have been far too many ) are due to overtraining or are they just so unfit that he can't do sod all with them
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Post by ColchTerrier on Mar 3, 2021 18:40:13 GMT 1
Wilder looks like he’ll be available next season....
One can dream ey!
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Post by Stiggy on Mar 4, 2021 1:20:02 GMT 1
Needs to go. Just get anyone in that can organise a defence!
Get rid before it's too late.
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Post by captainblack on Mar 4, 2021 12:14:53 GMT 1
If we lost heavily against Cardiff , and CC was sacked (all speculation) who would we bring in to turn things around with just 11 games remaining ? Would they be able to motivate our depleted looking squad, I think it possibly could be done , but with some difficulty.
I get the feeling CC is hear to stay for the foreseeable future even if we were relegated, though I think the clamour for his dismissal will intensify if our performances continue to be poor. Personally I don't want CC to lose his job , though I thought Siewert was right to be given a chance to redeem himself in the Championship, In hindsight I was so wrong!
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Post by benhomly on Mar 4, 2021 12:18:18 GMT 1
Wilder looks like he’ll be available next season.... One can dream ey! Ha ha looks like he might walk if his board doesn't share the same ideas about which direction he wants to take the club. I doubt he'll share the same ideas about which direction our club is going in either
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Post by Drew Peacock on Mar 5, 2021 23:56:31 GMT 1
After being one of his harshest critics I have to say fair play to Carlos tonight. Finally we have a plan B (that may become plan A until we get ourselves safe), and every one of the 11 looked motivated tonight, even Bacuna.
He can still fuck off with the crouching though.
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Post by richhtfc on Mar 5, 2021 23:59:00 GMT 1
After being one of his harshest critics I have to say fair play to Carlos tonight. Finally we have a plan B (that may become plan A until we get ourselves safe), and every one of the 11 looked motivated tonight, even Bacuna. He can still fuck off with the crouching though. Yeah please don’t crouch Carlos it upsets me... ?
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Post by Drew Peacock on Mar 6, 2021 0:02:30 GMT 1
After being one of his harshest critics I have to say fair play to Carlos tonight. Finally we have a plan B (that may become plan A until we get ourselves safe), and every one of the 11 looked motivated tonight, even Bacuna. He can still fuck off with the crouching though. Yeah please don’t crouch Carlos it upsets me... ? Doesn't upset me, just find it cringey, like he's trying too hard to look like he actually knows what he's doing.
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Post by jakeg on Mar 6, 2021 0:05:23 GMT 1
We nedd to stick with Carlos. He's learning and this experience should do him wonders. Yes its a risk....we could go down but the first half of the season showed me we have a progressive young coach who needs our support. He has made mistakes, of course he has. But he's got something that need time to mature and I think we will all reap the benefit
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