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Post by terriersyndrome on Feb 27, 2021 18:48:36 GMT 1
So Elijah Adebayo wasn’t good enough for us. But, 2 starts, 2 goals, and 1 assist later.. Are we seriously sure he couldn’t have improved us? Again, absolutely embarrassing today. Regardless of what division we’re in, we are going to find it hard to shift season tickets for next season. I haven’t read the whole thread, but if anyone is defending that, then you may as well delete my DATM account now... When you have Leigh Bromby controlling transfer dealings, is it any wonder the club is clueless Hodgkinson in his 2nd year as a professional club owner. Bromby in his 1st year as a DOF or whatever they decided to call his position. Corberan in his 1st year as a first team head coach at any decent level. We're run by complete novices. DH still owns 25% but just calls in on a Monday morning for his brown envelope & matchday to get a free game.
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Post by softboy on Feb 27, 2021 18:48:41 GMT 1
You have hit the nail on the head. It is now being run as a business which it should be and in these difficult financial times I am with a Chairman that spends as little as he can (altho I accept he is taking a gamble on staying in this league). Its like saying that the CEO of Heathrow Airport is a complete arswhole as he has taken the business from making a huge profit a year ago to a huge loss now! That's a new one even for DATM, comparing a football club to an airport.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 18:49:13 GMT 1
When you have Leigh Bromby controlling transfer dealings, is it any wonder the club is clueless Bromby does sound like one of the thickest human beings I’ve ever heard in fairness, so nothing surprises me. Just before he was made Director of Football, Bromby was (unsuccessfully) trying to sell kids football franchises around South Yorkshire. Talk about being promoted above your station.
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Post by Galpharmer on Feb 27, 2021 18:49:36 GMT 1
So Elijah Adebayo wasn’t good enough for us. But, 2 starts, 2 goals, and 1 assist later.. Are we seriously sure he couldn’t have improved us? Again, absolutely embarrassing today. Regardless of what division we’re in, we are going to find it hard to shift season tickets for next season. I haven’t read the whole thread, but if anyone is defending that, then you may as well delete my DATM account now... When you have Leigh Bromby controlling transfer dealings, is it any wonder the club is clueless Some clubs at this level have staff who are the envy of the division, the football World. We have staff that aren't even the envy of Liversedge.
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Feb 27, 2021 18:50:19 GMT 1
Considering he's not "an actual footballer" how has Mbenza has scored/assisted so many goals this season? I don't have the stats, but I suspect he has more direct goal involvements than any other player this season. 5 goals, 7 assists. Hardly setting the division on fire. I take your point but to me he spends too long looking disinterested, can't actually beat a man, and to have him in the team just for his free kicks just smacks of desperation. Just my opinion (shared by lots on here.) Our third top scorer, 35th in the league and only six players in the league with more assists...I’d say that’s fairly good going.
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Post by Tinpot on Feb 27, 2021 18:50:45 GMT 1
Schofield Keogh Bacuna Holmes Campbell Mbenza Not one of them is good enough for Championship football. Schofield is out of his depth. Keogh I'm not even gonna say anything. Bacuna is a total liability. Holmes wasn't good enough for us in league 1.Campbell....past it. Mbenza...not really an actual footballer. That's over half the team! Any wonder why we look so shit. He never played for us in Lg1, but he was plenty good enough for Scunthorpe in that division.
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Post by davethesprout on Feb 27, 2021 18:51:13 GMT 1
Judging by comments so far, girlfriends wives and mothers are going to have to have some washing to do tomorrow. And Bloody cat should keep out of my way as well
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Post by softboy on Feb 27, 2021 18:51:32 GMT 1
That's a new one even for DATM, comparing a football club to an airport. As I see it a football club and a airport are both businesses that have to be sustainable going forward in whatever financial circumstances they find themselves.
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Post by galphamer74 on Feb 27, 2021 18:52:22 GMT 1
You have hit the nail on the head. It is now being run as a business which it should be and in these difficult financial times I am with a Chairman that spends as little as he can (altho I accept he is taking a gamble on staying in this league). Its like saying that the CEO of Heathrow Airport is a complete arswhole as he has taken the business from making a huge profit a year ago to a huge loss now! That's a new one even for DATM, comparing a football club to an airport. It’s like the new owner of Heathrow saying he’s bought the airport because he plane spotted there for the last 30 years and that Heathrow is his favourite airport in the world and then shutting terminal 2 because he can’t afford the electricity bill
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Post by sabailand on Feb 27, 2021 18:53:09 GMT 1
Judging by comments so far, girlfriends wives and mothers are going to have to have some washing to do tomorrow. And Bloody cat should keep out of my way as well Just dont put it in the washing machine, moggy has had no part in todays shambles.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 18:53:20 GMT 1
Lent? He constantly said he was putting money in and didn't expect it back. He said Janet had given him x and he was playing with it. Clubs do their brains. We won't do our brains. We've done our brains, I'll have my cash back. Even though I'm part of the shambles and the cash being spaffed quicker than an 18yo in a brothel. I've said it before, but Dean said he was happy to spend what was needed to be a L1 and Championship club with no expectation of a return. We then lucked out and found ourselves in the Premier League. And that meant Dean had to spend more than expected. So why not just take back the unexpected PL expenses? Not all the money from the previous 10 years when you told us all that it was your "train set" that you could and would pay with no expectation of return. Edit: I expect Mids and Slapper to come along soon to tell me why I'm all wrong and we should be waving yellow and black scarves because we've had a chairman whose greed has hamstrung the club They will also tell you it was a private deal and how dare we speculate on the terms of the ‘deal’. Our fucking problems now relate to the fucking details in that fucking, fucking deal!
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Post by davethesprout on Feb 27, 2021 18:53:53 GMT 1
Schofield Keogh Bacuna Holmes Campbell Mbenza Not one of them is good enough for Championship football. Schofield is out of his depth. Keogh I'm not even gonna say anything. Bacuna is a total liability. Holmes wasn't good enough for us in league 1. Campbell....past it. Mbenza...not really an actual footballer. That's over half the team! Any wonder why we look so shit.
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Post by evidentlychickentown on Feb 27, 2021 18:54:44 GMT 1
All this talk about Hoyle and Potless is all well and good, but just getting back to the future and whether CC is up to keeping us in this division. I was shocked at his appointment but was happy for my scepticism to be put to one side when we were playing attractive football and winning enough games to hold us steady in mid table - where most of us were reasonably happy to be after last seasons roller coaster ride. But then along came the injuries, some bad luck, some dodgy decisions and soon were in free fall. The question is although none of that was especially CC’s fault, is he now up to turning things around, because if he isn’t then he has to go now and not when it’s too late. Bristol City brought in Pearson, Cardiff brought in McCarthy, both immediately arrested alarming slides in fortune - I think we need to do the same. But is there any chance of Phil admitting his mistakes and taking the bold decisions that BC and Cardiff took ? I think the answer to that is almost certainly no - he strikes me as stubborn and unlikely to admit any of this shambles is to do with him. So it’s not looking good tonight, I was fully behind CC for most of this season but he now looks totally out of his depth - as does Phil - and anyone thinking relegation could be the start of the club turning itself around I think are mistaken. The atmosphere among fans now is totally toxic and god knows what the crowds will be in Div 1 but I doubt they will be in 5 figures. So no parachute money, a chairman who’s skint, an ex chairman still owed a lot of money and seemingly determined to take it, and low match day income - that’s not a recipe for a turnaround. And if we stick with CC, how can a manager cope in Div 1 with all the route 1 and clogging when he wants to play like Barcelona. Boy I’m depressed - as you can probably tell.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 18:55:45 GMT 1
As I see it a football club and a airport are both businesses that have to be sustainable going forward in whatever financial circumstances they find themselves. This comparison could have wings.
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Post by linson on Feb 27, 2021 18:55:54 GMT 1
I've had enough of Mbenza. No flair, no effort, no penetration. He's happy to do the minimum possible and collect his pay cheque like far too many of the players
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Post by ACW on Feb 27, 2021 18:55:54 GMT 1
Considering he's not "an actual footballer" how has Mbenza has scored/assisted so many goals this season? I don't have the stats, but I suspect he has more direct goal involvements than any other player this season. 5 goals, 7 assists. Hardly setting the division on fire. I take your point but to me he spends too long looking disinterested, can't actually beat a man, and to have him in the team just for his free kicks just smacks of desperation. Just my opinion (shared by lots on here.) So, 12 direct goal involvements. Very impressive for our current team. Who else in our squad has anywhere near those figures? Maybe not setting the division on fire, but hardly "not an actual footballer" either. I'd rather see him in a Town shirt than the likes of Holmes who, despite the goals against Swansea, has contributed fuck all since he joined. The invisible man.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Feb 27, 2021 18:58:12 GMT 1
For me, a snapshot of where we are now as a club is:
0 - 2 down and we bring on Scott High.
The more I think of this, the more I realise how deep rooted our problems really are.
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Feb 27, 2021 18:58:51 GMT 1
As I see it a football club and a airport are both businesses that have to be sustainable going forward in whatever financial circumstances they find themselves. This comparison could have wings. Think we’ll need your humour on here tonight!
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Post by ACW on Feb 27, 2021 18:59:09 GMT 1
I've had enough of Mbenza. No flair, no effort, no penetration. He's happy to do the minimum possible and collect his pay cheque like far too many of the players No flair? No penetration? He has been directly involved in 12 goals this season! Who else in our squad can say that?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 19:01:49 GMT 1
I've had enough of Mbenza. No flair, no effort, no penetration. He's happy to do the minimum possible and collect his pay cheque like far too many of the players No flair? No penetration? He has been directly involved in 12 goals this season! Who else in our squad can say that? Schofield? Sarr?
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Post by terriertim on Feb 27, 2021 19:02:17 GMT 1
As Corporal Jones once said...."Don't panic" - remember we are not sleepwalking into relegation and we have our ace up the sleeve - the 5 strikers including non other than the Golden boy himself.......so put ya bag of spogs down there Danny and come on down...before we go down and then you can fuck off someone else on an obscene amount of wage and do absolutely fuck all !
Carlos has 2 games at most - that will leave us 12 to get Pulis in to save our arses
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Post by bluesandtwos on Feb 27, 2021 19:03:31 GMT 1
Really difficult now. Very long losing run. We have a couple of games coming up against struggling sides that we really need to win.
I do think here is a plan in there somewhere but it all depends on the side that starts next season, which will be down, again, to the transfer window (poor track record there recently).
We desperately need Hogg back to make us tighter at the back and organise us but this squad does seem like a make do and mend at the moment. I don't see any point in all the complaining on here though. I understand people feel upset but we can't cheer them on or boo them off so lets just see this awful season out and hope for something better next time around.
I know I will renew my season card because I do, but I want to feel a buzz when I set off for a game and not dread. It is not a lot to ask, surely.
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Feb 27, 2021 19:04:09 GMT 1
Never a case of Hoyle eventually getting his money back but the parachute money he sucked out of the club at the time was for vital rebuilding
A person like Hoyle who had run the club for many years would surely have realised that but to me the timing was so so wrong.
What you a seeing is businessman first --- town fan second and sadly we have ended up with a damp squib in Hodgkinson who will take the club to the lower levels.
Feel so sorry for Carlos as wrong time for him
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Post by davethesprout on Feb 27, 2021 19:07:19 GMT 1
we should have started with a Goalkeeper for starters ! Schofield was Way Overrated ! By Who Bromby ! what do we know about this Guy ? apart from he must be Hodgkinsons Yes man ! bloody scouts who signed all this CRAP ! MUST GO ! MARSH pack your bags ! We knew from last summer we needed a Striker !!!?? How can the two H`s defend this ? We sell our Top Striker & don`t replace him ? Sounds like our Barry Rubbery ? tbh The worst thing we did was to go up ! apart from my son , and g/sons seeing decent sides The 1970/71 slide was Predicted by me , Just Hope that they don`t `make a Splitting Yarns Episode THAT WAS BASED ON THE RISE AND FALL OFF HUDDERSFIELD TOWN ! in 1970s
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Post by Stavros on Feb 27, 2021 19:09:02 GMT 1
Is it Phils fault, is it Carlos fault or even is it Covid fault. The only critism I would make of Phil is that he should have borrowed vast sums of money at high interst rates to buy players and pay them big bucks. Its working for Birmingham, Wednesday, Derby and if it all gors wrong just put the club in Administration and walk away. Yes I might be being sarcastic or I might be prediction the future for these clubs! But if Hoyle's money was only ever a loan, isn't that exactly how he was behaving for a decade? Spending way more than we could have ever hoped to repay? You can't have it both ways. We had a budget well above our income for all that time. We assumed because it wasn't a loan. If it was a loan it was reckless in the extreme, and the only reason we still exist is because we landed lucky getting to the Prem. Which is it?
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Post by herefordaway on Feb 27, 2021 19:11:00 GMT 1
Considering he's not "an actual footballer" how has Mbenza has scored/assisted so many goals this season? I don't have the stats, but I suspect he has more direct goal involvements than any other player this season. 5 goals, 7 assists. Hardly setting the division on fire. I take your point but to me he spends too long looking disinterested, can't actually beat a man, and to have him in the team just for his free kicks just smacks of desperation. Just my opinion (shared by lots on here.) I'm no Mbenza fan but who else has contributed that,especially when playing like they cant be bothered.
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Post by hgterrier on Feb 27, 2021 19:11:40 GMT 1
Schofield Keogh Bacuna Holmes Campbell Mbenza Not one of them is good enough for Championship football. Schofield is out of his depth. Keogh I'm not even gonna say anything. Bacuna is a total liability. Holmes wasn't good enough for us in league 1.Campbell....past it. Mbenza...not really an actual footballer. That's over half the team! Any wonder why we look so shit. He never played for us in Lg1, but he was plenty good enough for Scunthorpe in that division. You're absolutely right. I do apologise. He's still shit though.
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Post by TommyTheTerrier on Feb 27, 2021 19:12:07 GMT 1
Is it Phils fault, is it Carlos fault or even is it Covid fault. The only critism I would make of Phil is that he should have borrowed vast sums of money at high interst rates to buy players and pay them big bucks. Its working for Birmingham, Wednesday, Derby and if it all gors wrong just put the club in Administration and walk away. Yes I might be being sarcastic or I might be prediction the future for these clubs! But if Hoyle's money was only ever a loan, isn't that exactly how he was behaving for a decade? Spending way more than we could have ever hoped to repay? You can't have it both ways. We had a budget well above our income for all that time. We assumed because it wasn't a loan. If it was a loan it was reckless in the extreme, and the only reason we still exist is because we landed lucky getting to the Prem. Which is it? It would’ve been interesting to see what happened to Hoyle’s loans if we never got promoted or were a mid table Championship side (ah, to dream).
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Post by rugbyterrier on Feb 27, 2021 19:12:54 GMT 1
I've had enough of Mbenza. No flair, no effort, no penetration. He's happy to do the minimum possible and collect his pay cheque like far too many of the players Had to read that twice . No flair no penetration . Thought you'd been talking to the wife!! Sorry just need a laugh- I'm bereft.
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Post by portugalterrier on Feb 27, 2021 19:12:55 GMT 1
Marcus Evans at Ipswich writing off over 100 million, Hoyle at town writing off nothing.
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