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Post by andyeastleake on Apr 21, 2021 22:18:13 GMT 1
TBF I thought Barnsley were a lot better than they were at Oakwell. ....they remind me a fair bit of Wagner's promotion team. Great to see Eiting & Koroma back if they'd been about in 2021 there is NO WAY we'd be in the position we are now. Our full strength team (including Koroma, Eiting, Pipa & Toffolo) wins games like that despite how sh8*te we're supposed to be reading this board sometimes. Why does our full strength teams win games like that? And why do people keep going on about our strongest 11 as if they are world beaters and nobody else in the division suffers from injuries. Pay barnsley a bit more respect than that, they are a much better side than us this year. I think our full strength team would win games like that, primarily because they're a lot better than our weakened team - just my opinion. As for giving Barnsley respect, did you read the first two lines? Not sure I can pay them much more of a compliment than that (that wouldn't be over the top).
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Post by wigster on Apr 21, 2021 22:18:56 GMT 1
Reminded me so much of our Premier league days.
Set up to avoid a thrashing and try to scrape a 0-0.
Timid, spineless, rudderless.
Schofield back to his terrified state whenever they crossed the ball, and the thought of paying money to watch Holmes for the next two years is truly depressing.
A club going only one way, at least until we've paid Hoyle off.
Seaon ticket anyone ?
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Post by Ibiza Town on Apr 21, 2021 22:20:45 GMT 1
Apparently corberan is a arrogant wanka, he didn't even say hello to Danny grant for 6 weeks. Danny ward has told a friend of mine the players take no notice of him anymore because they don't know what he's saying I haven't noticed Danny Ward and apparently hes played a few times already
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Post by impact on Apr 21, 2021 22:21:00 GMT 1
OK fair enough, thought you were on about the football style. Their style is awful, but they work with what they have, and are worth more than the sum of their parts. Great management. Absolutely. He's found a style that suits their players perfectly. The opposite of what we're doing.
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Post by htfc63 on Apr 21, 2021 22:21:45 GMT 1
High on for Rowe , I really do think Carlos has lost it. We have too many players like Holmes, Ward, High, Sanogo, Keogh, Aaron’s etc who are simply not good enough. Three men stood round doing little when the goal went in which shows our lack of fight and ability. The only real plus side was seeing Eiting again who is on a different length to the majority of the team. He looks up and sees little or no movement in front of him.
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Post by ACW on Apr 21, 2021 22:22:07 GMT 1
Their style is awful, but they work with what they have, and are worth more than the sum of their parts. Great management. Absolutely. He's found a style that suits their players perfectly. The opposite of what we're doing. We don't have a style at the moment. One minute it's long ball, the next it's slow possession at the back. Changes from game to game, and sometimes within games.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Apr 21, 2021 22:22:09 GMT 1
Their style is awful, but they work with what they have, and are worth more than the sum of their parts. Great management. Absolutely. He's found a style that suits their players perfectly. The opposite of what we're doing. true enough
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Post by wigster on Apr 21, 2021 22:23:33 GMT 1
Schofield is the worst keeper I have ever seen at Town. A bit harsh - he's a good shot stopper. Barnsley had done their homework (not hard is it?) and every corner/free kick was high and aimed at him. Poor lad was terrified.Another match when we could so easily have conceded 5++
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Post by impact on Apr 21, 2021 22:24:08 GMT 1
Absolutely. He's found a style that suits their players perfectly. The opposite of what we're doing. We don't have a style at the moment. One minute it's long ball, the next it's slow possession at the back. Changes from game to game, and sometimes within games. IMO it shows that he's out of his depth
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Post by Larry David on Apr 21, 2021 22:25:22 GMT 1
Apparently corberan is a arrogant wanka, he didn't even say hello to Danny grant for 6 weeks. Danny ward has told a friend of mine the players take no notice of him anymore because they don't know what he's saying Says more about Ward than anything to me. Football mercenary and cares more about his hairdo and tattoos than his profession
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Post by alexdire on Apr 21, 2021 22:25:52 GMT 1
Chaotic at the back again. Hogg and O'Brien falling back on top of the centre backs. Leaving free men on the edge of the box.
They were just superior to us all over page.
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Post by ACW on Apr 21, 2021 22:27:06 GMT 1
We don't have a style at the moment. One minute it's long ball, the next it's slow possession at the back. Changes from game to game, and sometimes within games. IMO it shows that he's out of his depth I have been a big supporter of Carlos, but recently I've started to have major doubts. Then again, is there a better turd polisher out there? Some of our players are never going to perform. We all know the names.
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Post by positive plus + pompous on Apr 21, 2021 22:27:41 GMT 1
So after Forest the players are all crowing on Twitter with the club reposting. The post match show can not be put out quickly enough. Bet it’s quiet tonight. Still no post match show for Norwich. Keep your heads down lads. Not sure the management understand what losing like this means to the fans. Do they even care? No one scoring and putting their hand to their ear tonight was there... they are absolute wankers if they have an issue with being criticised for their lazy shit performances this season.
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Post by Moooooy on Apr 21, 2021 22:27:51 GMT 1
OK fair enough, thought you were on about the football style. Their style is awful, but they work with what they have, and are worth more than the sum of their parts. Great management. I don’t think their style was that bad. They were strong, aggressive, well drilled, created plenty of chances, controlled the game from start to finish. What’s not to like? I’d take their style over our style (whatever that is meant to be) everyday of the week.
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Post by impact on Apr 21, 2021 22:29:42 GMT 1
IMO it shows that he's out of his depth I have been a big supporter of Carlos, but recently I've started to have major doubts. Then again, is there a better turd polisher out there? Some of our players are never going to perform. We all know the names. As I said earlier though, our squad is at the very least as good as Barnsley's on paper. They aren't just narrowly ahead of us in the table, they're miles away. Carlos hasn't adapted.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Apr 21, 2021 22:30:02 GMT 1
Chaotic at the back again. Hogg and O'Brien falling back on top of the centre backs. Leaving free men on the edge of the box. They were just superior to us all over page. I was really confused at the end. Hogg seemed to be at centre half with Keogh in midfield. Just get Sarr up there with Sanogo and channel it.
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Post by townrwe on Apr 21, 2021 22:30:27 GMT 1
The bloke that was chanting around the ground throughout the game... he was carrying on with who 2 be a terrier and one or two others after the final whistle, all supportive.... the screen when red but the ground noise was audible and Phat got on the ground microphone and told him "we've lost, why don't you just go home"... Why don't you just fuck off phat! Phat as in Hodgkinson ? If so thats a bit out of order Yup..... the one supporter at the ground gets told to go home by the chairman, in an arrogant patronising way.... That sums up Phat for me, arrogant, complete idiot, out of his depth and not genuine enough to ever win over the fans. 2 options,1. tell the bloke to fuck off home, or 2. A simple "thanks for your support fella, hope to see you next year" He's just a fucking knob, and he's never going to change who he is, so he's never going to be liked.
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Post by 28901 on Apr 21, 2021 22:30:30 GMT 1
Well it’s one game less to go and we’re still 8 points ahead of Rotherham, so I expect the odds on Town getting relegated will have lengthened slightly. Small mercies and all that, but it’s not good, is it? No because Wednesday can now draw one and overtake us wheras before this utter shit show they had to win up.
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Post by jakeg on Apr 21, 2021 22:32:00 GMT 1
Honestly sometimes I feel like I watch different games to some on here. All the comments about effort and application....I thought we went toe to toe especially in the first half. Simply they are better than us at their gameplan and we aren't quite good enough to work a way around their limited plan. Barnsley remind me of us when we got promoted in some ways....completely in your face all game. Hats off to Barnsley....they could be a real dark horse in the play offs. I can understand the concern that a limited squad with a good plan and an excellent coach got the better of us but I couldn't fault the effort. Yes we need to improve for next season...obviously. But I can't castigate the players on this occasion...they left everything out there in my view. Eiting showed an interesting cameo of what we have missed whilst he's been injured I applaud your positivity, but when we were one nil down at home at the end of the game we looked like we were defending our goal difference not chasing the game to try and get a point. Effort is good but to realize that you are loosing and not have the branes to change it up and play it around aimlessly at the back just show how limited and leaderless we are. That is in the team as well as from the bench. Not sure its out and out positivity. I don't argue that the quality has been lacking especially in the second half of the season but its a very lazy response from some on here to simply say the players are lazy bastards on the beach. That wasn't what I saw. BUT I did see a team changed again, trying to compete like for like wit a team that has perfected what they do and not realising it wasn't working quickly enough. I'm a fan of Coberan in many ways - I think he coukd become a very good coach but that game needed Eiting earlier, to slow the play down and work our way around the press. We aren't good enough that season to do that - plain truth. I think we all over react to.individual.games but need to look at the bigger picture of where we go next. We need more leaders, we need at least one player of Eitings vision to play the Mooy role and we need a goal threat. What I don't.think we do need is to mouth off about players not trying
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Post by impact on Apr 21, 2021 22:32:07 GMT 1
Well it’s one game less to go and we’re still 8 points ahead of Rotherham, so I expect the odds on Town getting relegated will have lengthened slightly. Small mercies and all that, but it’s not good, is it? No because Wednesday can now draw one and overtake us wheras before this utter shit show they had to win up. They can't. They need 8
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Apr 21, 2021 22:32:50 GMT 1
My take on tonight. We have no craft and guile in midfield - Eiting looked like he could provide this but if he’s not here next season we are back to square one again.
Barnsley pushed us back for almost the entire game and we just didn’t have the ability to get behind them and provide any service for Koroma and Sanogo who was feeding on scraps ( fail to see how zero service equals him not been good enough) I’m sure Pipa and Toffolo would have solved this.
Our defenders are unable to rely on the keeper for any support , he never comes off his line to challenge for crosses - the only ones he collects are the ones that arrive on top of him. At times, even the goal line camera is further forward than him.
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Post by shawsie on Apr 21, 2021 22:33:07 GMT 1
Absolutely. He's found a style that suits their players perfectly. The opposite of what we're doing. We don't have a style at the moment. One minute it's long ball, the next it's slow possession at the back. Changes from game to game, and sometimes within games. Good coaches and managers can get their teams to adapt and still get results. Ive yet to see CC come close to this.
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Post by 28901 on Apr 21, 2021 22:33:14 GMT 1
Except when we needed to in injury time instead of pissing about with it at the back. 94th minute and we played 5 or 6 passes between ourselves on the edge of our own box. Play it forward, win a free kick on the edge of theirs - and the referee blows for full time. Absolutely clueless, schoolboy stuff. Throw Sarr up front. Do something, anything. It's absolutely pathetic management. How often have Town even managed a point with that 3 at the back shite?
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Post by townrwe on Apr 21, 2021 22:33:23 GMT 1
The bloke that was chanting around the ground throughout the game... he was carrying on with who 2 be a terrier and one or two others after the final whistle, all supportive.... the screen when red but the ground noise was audible and Phat got on the ground microphone and told him "we've lost, why don't you just go home"... Why don't you just fuck off phat! Shut up you absolute bellend It was someone from the Barnsley media team who said that. It was a thick Barnsley accent. I very much doubt Phil says Tha instead of you It was "we" or "wi" lost... and Barnsley media team won't have access to the stadium microphone..... ffs.
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Post by 4 pts on Apr 21, 2021 22:34:27 GMT 1
High on for Rowe , I really do think Carlos has lost it. We have too many players like Holmes, Ward, High, Sanogo, Keogh, Aaron’s etc who are simply not good enough. Three men stood round doing little when the goal went in which shows our lack of fight and ability. The only real plus side was seeing Eiting again who is on a different length to the majority of the team. He looks up and sees little or no movement in front of him. I personally don't think High is ready for this level at all and as you've said Holmes, Ward and Aarons is like flushing the clubs money down the drain every week. You have 3 players wages there that could have been used to bring in one player with real quality..... ideally a frigging 20 goal striker
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Apr 21, 2021 22:38:15 GMT 1
Same old shite, different team we played against. Doesn't seem to matter who we play, 1 shot on target at home is embarrassing & it's hardly a one off is it?
Next season, we can't keep playing Schofield, Keogh, Holmes, Ward, High etc. & expect anything other than yet another relegation battle. I know it looks a lot better if you include Pipa, Toffolo, Hogg, Koroma & Eiting (the keys to me when we were playing well earlier in the season) but all sides get injuries.
We need quality additions at GK, CB, CM & CF, plus back ups at both FBs & that is if we don't sell LOB & Toffolo, the problem is if our recruitment team's 1st choice for summer was Holmes, what hope does that give us?
I have severe doubts about Carlos but the best signing I think Phil could make now is a half decent Director of Football.
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Post by paulsg on Apr 21, 2021 22:39:27 GMT 1
Put £12.50 on Town to be relegated at 20-1, it will pay for next season’s season card. As they say, when the fun stops, stop. (Disclaimer, not guaranteed)
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Post by lancsterrier on Apr 21, 2021 22:39:59 GMT 1
Amazing lost and to listen to some you would think it was a win and Towns at the top, least the board will be happy that some cant tell the difference between winning and losing. Guess Town don't have to worry about some European League just yet.
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Post by 28901 on Apr 21, 2021 22:40:08 GMT 1
No because Wednesday can now draw one and overtake us wheras before this utter shit show they had to win up. They can't. They need 8 Yeah well, it would save us right if they could.
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Apr 21, 2021 22:41:11 GMT 1
Shut up you absolute bellend It was someone from the Barnsley media team who said that. It was a thick Barnsley accent. I very much doubt Phil says Tha instead of you It was "we" or "wi" lost... and Barnsley media team won't have access to the stadium microphone..... ffs. Seems about as plausible as PH going on the stadium microphone and telling someone to go home...
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