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Post by 28901 on Apr 21, 2021 22:41:15 GMT 1
Amazing lost and to listen to some you would think it was a win and Towns at the top, least the board will be happy that some cant tell the difference between winning and losing. Guess Town don't have to worry about some European League just yet. Try and make a modicum of sense.
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Post by terrier2019 on Apr 21, 2021 22:41:30 GMT 1
I have been a big supporter of Carlos, but recently I've started to have major doubts. Then again, is there a better turd polisher out there? Some of our players are never going to perform. We all know the names. As I said earlier though, our squad is at the very least as good as Barnsley's on paper. They aren't just narrowly ahead of us in the table, they're miles away. Carlos hasn't adapted. doesnt know how to adapt i watch the games and cant see what our style of play is
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 21, 2021 22:41:55 GMT 1
No quality, no temp, no real idea of how to break teams down. To the people who say they tried, they did, can't knock the work rate and graft but that should be standard every game. Too many people making excuses for the club. Corberans tactics and team selection baffling. The best players were the subs tonight.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 21, 2021 22:43:09 GMT 1
Put £12.50 on Town to be relegated at 20-1, it will pay for next season’s season card. As they say, when the fun stops, stop. (Disclaimer, not guaranteed) We'll stay up but its through very little we've done.
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Post by Big Ern on Apr 21, 2021 22:46:43 GMT 1
We don't have a style at the moment. One minute it's long ball, the next it's slow possession at the back. Changes from game to game, and sometimes within games. Good coaches and managers can get their teams to adapt and still get results. Ive yet to see CC come close to this. If Hodgkinson hadn't shot his muck in the first half of the season when we managed to put two wins together, we wouldn't have given Corberan a new contract. Now because of that we are stuck with him despite the fact he has shown himself to be tactically shit. His pedigree was there, he managed some nondescript Cypriot team (and got sacked) then became a reserve team coach at Leeds so he was obviously a hell of a talent. This club is rank amateur top to bottom
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Post by jakeg on Apr 21, 2021 22:46:46 GMT 1
Amazing lost and to listen to some you would think it was a win and Towns at the top, least the board will be happy that some cant tell the difference between winning and losing. Guess Town don't have to worry about some European League just yet. I'm.not happy we lost. I'm never happy when we've lost. I feel that I'm a grown up though and can differentiate between games and highlight positives and negatives in wins, losses and draws. Norwich away pissed me off because we didn't even try to make it difficult for them for instance. I think I'm allowed to say tonight is different (not necessarily less worrying in the long term) in that we tried so hard but came up short. God forbid the rubbish we see on here sometimes where one win means everything is perfect and a following loss means we all collectively jump.off a cliff. Surely there is the collective intelligence to be more analytical...or maybe not
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Post by wigster on Apr 21, 2021 22:52:14 GMT 1
Same old shite, different team we played against. Doesn't seem to matter who we play, 1 shot on target at home is embarrassing & it's hardly a one off is it? Next season, we can't keep playing Schofield, Keogh, Holmes, Ward, High etc. & expect anything other than yet another relegation battle. I know it looks a lot better if you include Pipa, Toffolo, Hogg, Koroma & Eiting (the keys to me when we were playing well earlier in the season) but all sides get injuries. We need quality additions at GK, CB, CM & CF, plus back ups at both FBs & that is if we don't sell LOB & Toffolo, the problem is if our recruitment team's 1st choice for summer was Holmes, what hope does that give us? I have severe doubts about Carlos but the best signing I think Phil could make now is a half decent Director of Football. Totally agree with everything you've said. If Holmes was the first choice, it's frightening. I know it's still relatively early for them but when I read about (and looked at their statistics) players like Sanogo and Aarons before they came I thought there must be a reason no one else wanted them. I can see why now - and they're no worse than easily half that team tonight. It's all right saying we need a good clear out but we've no money, and a seemingly inept transfer policy.
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Post by ACW on Apr 21, 2021 22:52:53 GMT 1
Put £12.50 on Town to be relegated at 20-1, it will pay for next season’s season card. As they say, when the fun stops, stop. (Disclaimer, not guaranteed) We'll stay up but its through very little we've done. Little we've done since Xmas, but plenty of points and good performances pre-Xmas. We shouldn't forget that.
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Post by jakeg on Apr 21, 2021 22:59:24 GMT 1
We'll stay up but its through very little we've done. Little we've done since Xmas, but plenty of points and good performances pre-Xmas. We shouldn't forget that. Agree with this. How many times have we seen a god awful performance in the first half followed by some lazarus style ruse from the dead and come.away with find memories of one of the best results we can remember? Thinking Wrexham away in early 90s....shit half passing it down and 1-0 down...came out second half, scored two and its one of my memorable matches. Bury 4-4....do you.remember the car crash first half hour or the comeback? Three matches left....let's get the results we need without relying on others. Then there is a BIG job for next season
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Post by ACW on Apr 21, 2021 23:02:49 GMT 1
Same old shite, different team we played against. Doesn't seem to matter who we play, 1 shot on target at home is embarrassing & it's hardly a one off is it? Next season, we can't keep playing Schofield, Keogh, Holmes, Ward, High etc. & expect anything other than yet another relegation battle. I know it looks a lot better if you include Pipa, Toffolo, Hogg, Koroma & Eiting (the keys to me when we were playing well earlier in the season) but all sides get injuries. We need quality additions at GK, CB, CM & CF, plus back ups at both FBs & that is if we don't sell LOB & Toffolo, the problem is if our recruitment team's 1st choice for summer was Holmes, what hope does that give us? I have severe doubts about Carlos but the best signing I think Phil could make now is a half decent Director of Football. Totally agree with everything you've said. If Holmes was the first choice, it's frightening. I know it's still relatively early for them but when I read about (and looked at their statistics) players like Sanogo and Aarons before they came I thought there must be a reason no one else wanted them. I can see why now - and they're no worse than easily half that team tonight. It's all right saying we need a good clear out but we've no money, and a seemingly inept transfer policy. If the rumours that Holmes was a first choice signing are true, then you are right - that is scary. He has the odd good run, the occasional good pass, a couple of decent crosses in his first game, and obviously the goals against Swansea, but these are rare occurrences. For large amounts of most matches he contributes nothing. If he is a regular part of our future first team, then I am worried. He's simply not good enough.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Apr 21, 2021 23:03:21 GMT 1
If there is a beach, whoever wants to get on it will have to lever some of our lazy bastards out of the way to get on it. Until is impossible to be overtaken you wouldn't bet on these fuckers to give it their best shot to be.. Last game result, I dont think hogg and o brien can run enough for everyone else..the rest will be creamed up and speedos on.. Tell me who looked like they didn't TRY tonight....we lacked the quality and plan to counter Barnsley very effective tactics...I'll give you that but who didn't put the effort in? I saw mostly a 1980s style local Derby which lacked quality but was full on for every minute. They had more players than us for almost the whole game. We gave them the ball back more than norwich.. They had less defenders most of the time than us but closed down quicker and harder and they regularly got more forward than us. Other than that the effort and the commitment was there. The lack of care of the ball was evident time after time, players not really wanting it, flicking it away as soon as they got it.. Lack of support for the ball and the player going to the ball was as bad as Rotherham and the overall lack of movement means we just were not working hard enough.
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Post by jakeg on Apr 21, 2021 23:08:14 GMT 1
Tell me who looked like they didn't TRY tonight....we lacked the quality and plan to counter Barnsley very effective tactics...I'll give you that but who didn't put the effort in? I saw mostly a 1980s style local Derby which lacked quality but was full on for every minute. They had more players than us for almost the whole game. We gave them the ball back more than norwich.. They had less defenders most of the time than us but closed down quicker and harder and they regularly got more forward than us. Other than that the effort and the commitment was there. The lack of care of the ball was evident time after time, players not really wanting it, flicking it away as soon as they got it.. Lack of support for the ball and the player going to the ball was as bad as Rotherham and the overall lack of movement means we just were not working hard enough. Not sure its lack of care....I think tonight it was more an inability to have the quality to deal with a Barnsley player being in your face the millisecond after receiving it. I don't think we are disagreeing....I just get pissed off with the lazy chuck.away line that we don't care. We just aren't good enough, have enough quality and have a good enough plan....those are the challenges for next season in my view
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Post by 28901 on Apr 21, 2021 23:30:05 GMT 1
Incredibly despite every post on here slagging Town off and admitting Barnsley should have won by more, over on the Barnsley message board we are deluded and think we should have won. Up there with Wednesday in our arrogance.
Fucking unbelievable, lead as as usual by former regular DATM poster pseudo decent lad BFC fan dreamboy3000. Two faced c*** he is.
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Post by rphyorks on Apr 21, 2021 23:36:49 GMT 1
Well it’s one game less to go and we’re still 8 points ahead of Rotherham, so I expect the odds on Town getting relegated will have lengthened slightly. Small mercies and all that, but it’s not good, is it? No because Wednesday can now draw one and overtake us wheras before this utter shit show they had to win up. Wednesday need to win all 3 to get to 48 points if they win two and draw the other they end up with 46 points. we currently have 47 points.
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Post by space hardware on Apr 21, 2021 23:48:50 GMT 1
Barnsley schooled us tonight. We looked piss weak, small, timid and clueless.
Hanging on for a 0-0 draw and then having no idea what to do when we conceded.
This is what we are now, what we've become. Sleepwalking to relegation next year, having dodged a big fat bullet this time.
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Post by impact on Apr 21, 2021 23:52:10 GMT 1
Incredibly despite every post on here slagging Town off and admitting Barnsley should have won by more, over on the Barnsley message board we are deluded and think we should have won. Up there with Wednesday in our arrogance. Fucking unbelievable, lead as as usual by former regular DATM poster pseudo decent lad BFC fan dreamboy3000. Two faced c*** he is. Small club syndrome.
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Post by 28901 on Apr 22, 2021 0:07:02 GMT 1
Incredibly despite every post on here slagging Town off and admitting Barnsley should have won by more, over on the Barnsley message board we are deluded and think we should have won. Up there with Wednesday in our arrogance. Fucking unbelievable, lead as as usual by former regular DATM poster pseudo decent lad BFC fan dreamboy3000. Two faced c*** he is. Small club syndrome. You'll be getting quoted on there. I was astonished. Read back through this. I havent seen one derogatory post about Barnsley or their performance. They do seem to have a chip on their shoulder.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2021 0:08:40 GMT 1
Same old shite, different team we played against. Doesn't seem to matter who we play, 1 shot on target at home is embarrassing & it's hardly a one off is it? Next season, we can't keep playing Schofield, Keogh, Holmes, Ward, High etc. & expect anything other than yet another relegation battle. I know it looks a lot better if you include Pipa, Toffolo, Hogg, Koroma & Eiting (the keys to me when we were playing well earlier in the season) but all sides get injuries. We need quality additions at GK, CB, CM & CF, plus back ups at both FBs & that is if we don't sell LOB & Toffolo, the problem is if our recruitment team's 1st choice for summer was Holmes, what hope does that give us? I have severe doubts about Carlos but the best signing I think Phil could make now is a half decent Director of Football. It seems there’s only Phil who thinks zBromby is the man for the job of HOFO. Phil still believes in the dream that LB sold him - get a coach in who can develop the pups in the first team and we’ll make millions in transfer fees. Fantastic idea. Bet the other EFL chairmen are kicking themselves for not hiring him !
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Apr 22, 2021 0:11:09 GMT 1
No quality, no temp, no real idea of how to break teams down. To the people who say they tried, they did, can't knock the work rate and graft but that should be standard every game. Too many people making excuses for the club. Corberans tactics and team selection baffling. The best players were the subs tonight. One win to guarantee safety. A completely insipid display. Load of shite. Not enough care. Its just 11 footballers going through the motions.
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Post by detox on Apr 22, 2021 0:13:45 GMT 1
Don't think I've seen a town side disintegrate like that ever. We were like headless chickens in the 2nd half. Nobody seemed to know what to do and nobody wanted to help a team mate. That was an utter and total shambles of a performance.
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Post by melbourneterrier on Apr 22, 2021 0:22:16 GMT 1
Once the team news that neither Pipa nor Toffolo was playing, I was never confident of getting a win.
This team is so infuriating to watch, one game (Forest) they look up for it (minus the first 20...) and then the next, they just don't show up.
With both Derby and Rotherham losing, then this round has technically been okay for us, and it's now harder mathematically for them to catch us (one less game for them to make up the difference).
I just hope we get the job done against Blackburn or Coventry.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 22, 2021 0:36:30 GMT 1
Put £12.50 on Town to be relegated at 20-1, it will pay for next season’s season card. As they say, when the fun stops, stop. (Disclaimer, not guaranteed) We'll stay up but its through very little we've done. Have we been given our points then? If we earn enough points to stay up then we'll deserve it. Particularly when weve been hammered by injuries to the extent we have. Not saying its a big achievement in any way, but its nonsense to say we wouldnt have earned it.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Apr 22, 2021 6:32:06 GMT 1
Shut up you absolute bellend It was someone from the Barnsley media team who said that. It was a thick Barnsley accent. I very much doubt Phil says Tha instead of you It was "we" or "wi" lost... and Barnsley media team won't have access to the stadium microphone..... ffs. It wasn't the stadium microphone you muppet. It was picked up by the same microphone that the red button was using. A Barnsley fan posted about it on their forum and he also heard them say tha. It was as broad a Barnsley accent as you will hear and you think it was Phil? barnsleyfc.org.uk/threads/colliers-vs-terriers-matchday-thread.303815/page-15
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Apr 22, 2021 6:39:45 GMT 1
Apparently corberan is a arrogant wanka, he didn't even say hello to Danny grant for 6 weeks. Danny ward has told a friend of mine the players take no notice of him anymore because they don't know what he's saying This is so believable - I'm sure the source is 100% reliable. I've also heard that he humiliates people with things he says, even though they don't know what he's said. And they also don't know what he's said to them when he hasn't said anything. How long can this go on?
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Apr 22, 2021 6:48:21 GMT 1
We'll stay up but its through very little we've done. Have we been given our points then? If we earn enough points to stay up then we'll deserve it. Particularly when weve been hammered by injuries to the extent we have. Not saying its a big achievement in any way, but its nonsense to say we wouldnt have earned it. If it wasn't for the pre January results we'd have been in more serious trouble. Its certainly not a big achievement, 3 wins in 2021 is just not what we're looking to see. The injuries have affected us but it just showed the lack of depth and lack of a squad as a whole to speak off. Unless there is a huge shake up of the squad it could well be much more of the same next season too.
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Post by shawsie on Apr 22, 2021 6:59:07 GMT 1
Apparently corberan is a arrogant wanka, he didn't even say hello to Danny grant for 6 weeks. Danny ward has told a friend of mine the players take no notice of him anymore because they don't know what he's saying This is so believable - I'm sure the source is 100% reliable. I've also heard that he humiliates people with things he says, even though they don't know what he's said. And they also don't know what he's said to them when he hasn't said anything. How long can this go on? I dont know CC at all, but tbh a character assassination of him rightly or wrongly isnt going to change anything. What concerns me more are those who believe he will turn it around given no injuries......this isnt a 3 or 4 game run of bad form now. We've won 3 in 21 i believe........ and lost 22 of the 44 games in league and cup this season. He and his team were brought in to play a brand of entertaining football because the identity matched the club vision and i dont see it at all. The football is ponderous, turgid even at times and what is going to change that? We cant magic 7 or 8 new quality players out of nowhere to help him......or can we?! Barnsley werent great last night......but they do the simple things effectively and have a collective spirit to die for. We on the other hand have no identity, no pattern and continue to make similar mistakes game by game imho......how is he going to change this?
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 22, 2021 7:33:47 GMT 1
Last night's sponsors seem like a lovely lot 🤨
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Apr 22, 2021 7:41:11 GMT 1
No quality, no temp, no real idea of how to break teams down. To the people who say they tried, they did, can't knock the work rate and graft but that should be standard every game. Too many people making excuses for the club. Corberans tactics and team selection baffling. The best players were the subs tonight. One win to guarantee safety. A completely insipid display. Load of shite. Not enough care. Its just 11 footballers going through the motions. They’re not footballers, otherwise I agree.
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Post by Mecha Corte on Apr 22, 2021 7:43:37 GMT 1
Good job for sheff weds points deduction We'd still be two points above them without the deduction. And that wouldn’t worry you with 9 points still available to both teams ? It’s mathematically possibly ( however unlikely the fact is it IS possible ) that even with a 6 point deduction that Wednesday can finish above us, not only that even though they still have to play Derby they also could finish above us, as could Rotherham. The only team that can not is Wycombe, we can be relegated, there are two places left to fill, the 6 point deduction is a major bonus to Town, you’ve probably got to go up the table as high as PNE to find teams not thinking “Good job for the deduction!”
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Post by kennyk2 on Apr 22, 2021 7:55:57 GMT 1
We'll stay up but its through very little we've done. Little we've done since Xmas, but plenty of points and good performances pre-Xmas. We shouldn't forget that. The team and management certainly got something right before Christmas when I was pretty optimistic about the future. The Schindler and Koroma injuries although during winning games, did seem important at the time. We have also scored some really good goals this season. Looking at last night, perhaps we need to have a look at making Eiting permanent. I'd also like to keep Campbell and keep our options open on Sanogo for a short term contract. The rest out of contract players can all go for me... not because they might be worth keeping (Bacuna?), but because we need to free up finances. LOB may need to be replaced and that won't be cheap to get someone of that calibre. We have the makings of a decent team with 4/5 good signings and if coached well, we could reach mid table obscurity next season. Now that would be a change.
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