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Post by Skint Terriers on Sept 7, 2021 14:05:51 GMT 1
I'm hoping it's a case of us trying to keep our best players and build around them rather than it being so we can get a bigger fee in January.
I must say, despite all the links and it looking very likely that Lewis was going to be leaving the fact he was still giving 100% every week was fantastic. The kind of person we need in our team.
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Sept 7, 2021 16:04:21 GMT 1
It's definitely a done deal was fixing is fathers boiler yesterday and said town have offered him a really good deal which he's signed said leeds offered 3 million town said no thanks he said lewis wanted to stay at town all alongYeah, famous quote from any and every player who signs any kind of contract. Do you honestly believe that he would prefer to stay at Town rather than throw his dice in the Premier League, the world's biggest competition? Call me a pessimistic old cynic, but I certainly don't. |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2021 17:44:17 GMT 1
It's definitely a done deal was fixing is fathers boiler yesterday and said town have offered him a really good deal which he's signed said leeds offered 3 million town said no thanks he said lewis wanted to stay at town all alongYeah, famous quote from any and every player who signs any kind of contract. Do you honestly believe that he would prefer to stay at Town rather than throw his dice in the Premier League, the world's biggest competition? Call me a pessimistic old cynic, but I certainly don't. And it means we still have zero creativity from our CM's |
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Sept 7, 2021 18:37:14 GMT 1
Yeah, famous quote from any and every player who signs any kind of contract. Do you honestly believe that he would prefer to stay at Town rather than throw his dice in the Premier League, the world's biggest competition? Call me a pessimistic old cynic, but I certainly don't. And it means we still have zero creativity from our CM's But on the bright side😚 |
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Post by mightyterrier on Sept 7, 2021 20:15:38 GMT 1
Yeah, famous quote from any and every player who signs any kind of contract. Do you honestly believe that he would prefer to stay at Town rather than throw his dice in the Premier League, the world's biggest competition? Call me a pessimistic old cynic, but I certainly don't. And it means we still have zero creativity from our CM's And you know Sinani has Zero creativity? |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Sept 7, 2021 20:25:40 GMT 1
Does this mean Toffs will be signing a long term deal too  |
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Post by portugalterrier on Sept 7, 2021 20:44:57 GMT 1
Yeah, famous quote from any and every player who signs any kind of contract. Do you honestly believe that he would prefer to stay at Town rather than throw his dice in the Premier League, the world's biggest competition? Call me a pessimistic old cynic, but I certainly don't. And it means we still have zero creativity from our CM's At least we no longer have to endure the half arsed child that was Bacuna. |
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Post by King Curtis on Sept 7, 2021 20:49:39 GMT 1
If we manage to get Lewis to sign a new contract, I would be putting one in front of Toffolo then, seeing as they are good mates. What relevance does that have?! |
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Post by King Curtis on Sept 7, 2021 20:50:25 GMT 1
Does this mean Toffs will be signing a long term deal too No it doesn't. Jeez. |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2021 21:52:31 GMT 1
And it means we still have zero creativity from our CM's And you know Sinani has Zero creativity? The Sinani that's been playing on the right of a front 3 ? |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 7, 2021 21:56:06 GMT 1
And it means we still have zero creativity from our CM's At least we no longer have to endure the half arsed child that was Bacuna. That's got nothing to do with my post but we need to replace his goals and assists from midfield and those aren't going to come from any of Hogg, O'Brien, Holmes or Vallejo are they |
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Post by bluestripe on Sept 8, 2021 8:05:55 GMT 1
It's definitely a done deal was fixing is fathers boiler yesterday and said town have offered him a really good deal which he's signed said leeds offered 3 million town said no thanks he said lewis wanted to stay at town all alongYeah, famous quote from any and every player who signs any kind of contract. Do you honestly believe that he would prefer to stay at Town rather than throw his dice in the Premier League, the world's biggest competition? Call me a pessimistic old cynic, but I certainly don't. It's quite possible it wasn't a black or white decision. Money would have been attractive obviously, but perhaps it is important also to a player such as O'Brien to be playing each week which he gets at Town. |
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Sept 8, 2021 9:34:01 GMT 1
If we manage to get Lewis to sign a new contract, I would be putting one in front of Toffolo then, seeing as they are good mates. What relevance does that have?! Imagine hypothetically your agent calling you and saying "I've got you a great deal, will set your family up for life and you'll play premier league football". "No thanks, my mate plays here" |
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Post by Dan on Sept 8, 2021 10:15:02 GMT 1
Irrespective of them being mates, we do still need to get a new contract in front of Toffolo as his expires next summer, we just have an option of another year. Same goes for Koroma.
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Post by incognito on Sept 8, 2021 10:53:49 GMT 1
I'm not sure that O'Brien signing a new contract would be entirely irrelevant to Toffolo's situation. LOB's willingness to commit may reflect the improved morale among the squad and the players' confidence in the direction the club is heading, both of which I'd expect to be prominent considerations as HT weighs up his options. (Admittedly, it could just as easily reflect Lewis' willingness to enjoy 3x or 4x his current salary for however many more months he is at the club  ) |
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Post by Gold Coast Terrier on Sept 8, 2021 12:11:41 GMT 1
It wouldn’t surprise me if all three sign new deals now given we’ve cleared the wage bill. It’s time to build our foundations, and that comes from paying the RIGHT players a fair amount.
Even though Sorba is on a long contract, I think he’ll also be due a bump up around Christmas time if he keeps this up.
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Post by Jello Biafra on Sept 8, 2021 14:11:17 GMT 1
At least we no longer have to endure the half arsed child that was Bacuna. That's got nothing to do with my post but we need to replace his goals and assists from midfield and those aren't going to come from any of Hogg, O'Brien, Holmes or Vallejo are theyBut, assuming the personnel available stay the same as they currently are all season, Bacuna's contribution to the stats will almost certainly be superceded by the contributions of the 4 centre halves, Sinani, Thomas and the lad from West Ham. The 'creativity' comes from a different style of play, and players with different (more consistently effective) abilities. |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on Sept 8, 2021 15:51:35 GMT 1
That's got nothing to do with my post but we need to replace his goals and assists from midfield and those aren't going to come from any of Hogg, O'Brien, Holmes or Vallejo are theyBut, assuming the personnel available stay the same as they currently are all season, Bacuna's contribution to the stats will almost certainly be superceded by the contributions of the 4 centre halves, Sinani, Thomas and the lad from West Ham. The 'creativity' comes from a different style of play, and players with different (more consistently effective) abilities. I share Porroh’s concern re creativity - but early signs are that Bacuna’s efforts will soon be surpassed by the many different options we seem to have this season. Don’t think his “Sulks per game” stats will be beaten though. ( Bacuna’s not Porroh’s) |
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Post by sykeylad on Sept 8, 2021 17:57:18 GMT 1
We can't cover all the bases though, we're not Man City.
Vallejo can pick a pass. High too. Holmes gives some drive. Lewis O'Brien drives it and get up there.
You only need 2 in there with a 343.
Sinani can play in a 10.
Got great wing backs and wide options good too for cutting in.
Thos bemoaning a lack of Mooy come Eiting is getting overstated. ZERO creativity my arse.
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Post by ldotm on Sept 9, 2021 12:08:25 GMT 1
Irrespective of them being mates, we do still need to get a new contract in front of Toffolo as his expires next summer, we just have an option of another year. Same goes for Koroma. Look such a better team with Toff in it. Not only enhances our ability at LB but gets the best out of Koroma too. Genuinely would be the player I’d be most gutted about if he left, talented, runs all day and comes across a top bloke that helps with the morale. |
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Post by ldotm on Sept 9, 2021 12:10:37 GMT 1
Yeah, famous quote from any and every player who signs any kind of contract. Do you honestly believe that he would prefer to stay at Town rather than throw his dice in the Premier League, the world's biggest competition? Call me a pessimistic old cynic, but I certainly don't. And it means we still have zero creativity from our CM's Do you not rate him? You should tell us mate, 267 posts about it, isn’t enough to convince us. Go on, keep reminding us. |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 9, 2021 12:16:58 GMT 1
We can't cover all the bases though, we're not Man City. Vallejo can pick a pass. High too. Holmes gives some drive. Lewis O'Brien drives it and get up there. You only need 2 in there with a 343. Sinani can play in a 10. Got great wing backs and wide options good too for cutting in. Thos bemoaning a lack of Mooy come Eiting is getting overstated. ZERO creativity my arse. Neither of those were particularly creative, they were the ones that kept the ball and set the tempo |
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Post by Porrohman on Sept 9, 2021 12:24:39 GMT 1
And it means we still have zero creativity from our CM's Do you not rate him? You should tell us mate, 267 posts about it, isn’t enough to convince us. Go on, keep reminding us. Whether I rate him or not doesn't alter the fact that creativity is the one thing our 2 first choice central midfielders lack. I'd like to see us play with Sinani as a 10 and Sorba, JK and, probably, Mipo in a front 3 giving him options. |
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Post by Tiro on Sept 9, 2021 12:24:49 GMT 1
Maybe, just maybe, CC doesn't want his CM's to be overtly creative. Maybe he wants them to be allrounders, more disciplined.
Maybe the idea is that this free's up the front 3 to freely creative / not as disciplined. And for the wingbacks to chip in.
Maybe CC doesn't want us to play directly though the middle.
So maybe we've got enough in the tank for now.
That's what I see when we set up anyway. We may need a plan B when that doesn't work, but I think a reshuffle of the formation would be suffice ie. I think we have ability in the squad to fulfil that role when we need it - it could be bettered, but I think we have enough to Jan at least. And LOB will still chip in with goals and assists.
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Post by kennyk2 on Sept 9, 2021 18:14:31 GMT 1
Wow! So according to the PH interview on WYS, the club rejected a bid of £13 million for O'Brien.
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Post by Waterloo Terrier on Sept 9, 2021 18:19:20 GMT 1
Wow! So according to the PH interview on WYS, the club rejected a bid of £13 million for O'Brien. Phil is doing a lot of good things. But for the life of me I can’t understand why he thinks showing his full hand in the media all the time is a good strategy. He was out there begging the Premier League for more money just last season. |
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Post by RickDangerous on Sept 9, 2021 18:30:24 GMT 1
Wow! So according to the PH interview on WYS, the club rejected a bid of £13 million for O'Brien. Phil is doing a lot of good things. But for the life of me I can’t understand why he thinks showing his full hand in the media all the time is a good strategy. He was out there begging the Premier League for more money just last season. I can't understand why he didn't sell him. |
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Post by Dan on Sept 9, 2021 18:34:16 GMT 1
Phil is doing a lot of good things. But for the life of me I can’t understand why he thinks showing his full hand in the media all the time is a good strategy. He was out there begging the Premier League for more money just last season. I can't understand why he didn't sell him. Must have been £13 million including all potential add ons. Few million for playing 50 games, few million for an England cap etc. Surely |
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Post by garyroberts'leftfoot on Sept 9, 2021 19:26:56 GMT 1
I can't understand why he didn't sell him. Must have been £13 million including all potential add ons. Few million for playing 50 games, few million for an England cap etc. Surely Exactly. Probably a small amount upfront and loads of add ons. If it had been a guaranteed £13m then he would be a Leeds player. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Sept 9, 2021 19:34:12 GMT 1
I can't understand why he didn't sell him. Must have been £13 million including all potential add ons. Few million for playing 50 games, few million for an England cap etc. Surely I was laughing at your suggestion he might get an England cap. Then remembered Mark Barham got one :-) |
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