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Post by mids on Jun 25, 2021 9:35:07 GMT 1
I think with Holmes and probably anyone who came in in January we need to wait and see.He nor the likes of arrons made the impact they would have been after but came in under difficult circumstances and into a system the in all honesty probably is fairly tough to get your head around,especially with limited time to work with them. That said with a full pre season under carlos they really need to hit the ground running as many minds are already made up. Personally I will give them a couple of months to make my mind up. Holmes was shit the first time round and worse the 2nd time, if he's near the team we're fucked If he called Duane Van La Holmes you'd absolutely love him  |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 25, 2021 9:37:25 GMT 1
Holmes was shit the first time round and worse the 2nd time, if he's near the team we're fucked If he called Duane Van La Holmes you'd absolutely love him If he could do a tenth of what VLP could do I may think him less hapless |
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Post by bluestripe on Jun 25, 2021 9:38:13 GMT 1
If he called Duane Van La Holmes you'd absolutely love him If he could do a tenth of what VLP could do I may think him less hapless Oooof! Low blow! 🤪 |
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Post by mids on Jun 25, 2021 9:58:21 GMT 1
If he called Duane Van La Holmes you'd absolutely love him If he could do a tenth of what VLP could do I may think him less hapless In fairness though Duane is a lot smaller than RVLP....they're both ineffective in the main, but given the choice I'd pick DVLH over RVLP all day, every day. Give DVLH a chance and he might surprise you/us - much like I was surprised when RVLP actually put a cross into the box rather than faffing about |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2021 10:13:58 GMT 1
Amazing how another thread about a possible incoming player becomes a ‘rubbish the players we already have’ thread. Can we not keep that out of the transfer threads? It just wastes lots of time looking for relevant info.
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Post by mids on Jun 25, 2021 10:26:09 GMT 1
Amazing how another thread about a possible incoming player becomes a ‘rubbish the players we already have’ thread. Can we not keep that out of the transfer threads? It just wastes lots of time looking for relevant info. You are, of course, correct. However, it's really not that difficult to scroll through a few non specific off topic comments - at least until LVM finally gets announced |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Jun 25, 2021 10:27:04 GMT 1
If we get any foreign players in it needs to be asap to get them up to speed with CC's methods & how he wants them to play, as well as integrated & settled here.
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Post by terriers2000 on Jun 25, 2021 10:32:39 GMT 1
are we even close of signing him?
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Post by dezzly on Jun 25, 2021 10:54:57 GMT 1
are we even close of signing him? Personally once colwill is announced I reckon that’s all the business done unless someone leaves.we will no doubt have targets lined up but can’t move on them until there is an outgoing. Would reckon the ones most likely to go would be pipa,toff,o brien,mbenza and bacuna. Not ideal for getting business done early in the window(although seems we have sorted the main weakness from last season) but it’s just how it is I guess.no club has really made many signings but few signs of market picking up this last few days. |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 25, 2021 11:12:41 GMT 1
Personally once colwill is announced I reckon that’s all the business done unless someone leaves.we will no doubt have targets lined up but can’t move on them until there is an outgoing.
Would reckon the ones most likely to go would be pipa,toff,o brien,mbenza and bacuna.
Not ideal for getting business done early in the window(although seems we have sorted the main weakness from last season) but it’s just how it is I guess.no club has really made many signings but few signs of market picking up this last few days.[/quote]
You may well be right but I hope not.
We released 9 players not including our loan midfielder and we have brought 5 in. I think that we all remember scratching around for team for a big part of last season.
We are weaker in the centre mid than we were last season at this moment in time and if any of the likely names depart :-
Isaac Mbenza
Juninho Bacuna
Lewis O'Brien
Pipa
Harry Toffolo
We will need some very good transfers in to try and equal last years results.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2021 11:31:19 GMT 1
If we get any foreign players in it needs to be asap to get them up to speed with CC's methods & how he wants them to play, as well as integrated & settled here. If true don't you think the club aren't aware of this ? Not having ago just asking! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2021 11:37:25 GMT 1
are we even close of signing him? Personally once colwill is announced I reckon that’s all the business done unless someone leaves.we will no doubt have targets lined up but can’t move on them until there is an outgoing. Would reckon the ones most likely to go would be pipa,toff,o brien,mbenza and bacuna. Not ideal for getting business done early in the window(although seems we have sorted the main weakness from last season) but it’s just how it is I guess.no club has really made many signings but few signs of market picking up this last few days. The club as done a lot of business early others may take time |
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Post by dezzly on Jun 25, 2021 11:43:33 GMT 1
Personally once colwill is announced I reckon that’s all the business done unless someone leaves.we will no doubt have targets lined up but can’t move on them until there is an outgoing. Would reckon the ones most likely to go would be pipa,toff,o brien,mbenza and bacuna. Not ideal for getting business done early in the window(although seems we have sorted the main weakness from last season) but it’s just how it is I guess.no club has really made many signings but few signs of market picking up this last few days. You may well be right but I hope not. We released 9 players not including our loan midfielder and we have brought 5 in. I think that we all remember scratching around for team for a big part of last season. We are weaker in the centre mid than we were last season at this moment in time and if any of the likely names depart :- Isaac Mbenza Juninho Bacuna Lewis O'Brien Pipa Harry Toffolo We will need some very good transfers in to try and equal last years results. [/quote] Dunno about the midfield really.Eiting has gone as hard Pritchard but the latter contributed nothing last season. Scott high is probably expected to kick on and reece brown is back plus we signed Vallejo.Admittedly we have lost quality in Eiting and want to replace but the money must not be available,whether that’s transfer wise or wage bill wise,would suspect the latter more so. In an ideal world we get rid of bacuna and mbenza tomorrow and suspect we would move then very quickly to not only replace but add 1/2 extra. Out of the 9 released you mention 5 of those were defenders off the top of my head and we have signed(including colwill) 4 defenders. All in all I reckon the squad looks ever so slightly stronger to last season and there shouldn’t be the amount of injuries as schedule back to normal. Like I say if the two mentioned go ideally we get another 10 of quality and then probably another midfielder and right sided attacker/winger. However the way it’s panning out it may be o brien makes way for anything to happen as the most sought after. |
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Post by goodbet on Jun 25, 2021 12:11:50 GMT 1
Personally once colwill is announced I reckon that’s all the business done unless someone leaves.we will no doubt have targets lined up but can’t move on them until there is an outgoing. Would reckon the ones most likely to go would be pipa,toff,o brien,mbenza and bacuna. Not ideal for getting business done early in the window(although seems we have sorted the main weakness from last season) but it’s just how it is I guess.no club has really made many signings but few signs of market picking up this last few days. You may well be right but I hope not. We released 9 players not including our loan midfielder and we have brought 5 in. I think that we all remember scratching around for team for a big part of last season. We are weaker in the centre mid than we were last season at this moment in time and if any of the likely names depart :- Isaac Mbenza Juninho Bacuna Lewis O'Brien Pipa Harry Toffolo We will need some very good transfers in to try and equal last years results. Dunno about the midfield really.Eiting has gone as hard Pritchard but the latter contributed nothing last season. Scott high is probably expected to kick on and reece brown is back plus we signed Vallejo.Admittedly we have lost quality in Eiting and want to replace but the money must not be available,whether that’s transfer wise or wage bill wise,would suspect the latter more so. In an ideal world we get rid of bacuna and mbenza tomorrow and suspect we would move then very quickly to not only replace but add 1/2 extra. Out of the 9 released you mention 5 of those were defenders off the top of my head and we have signed(including colwill) 4 defenders. All in all I reckon the squad looks ever so slightly stronger to last season and there shouldn’t be the amount of injuries as schedule back to normal. Like I say if the two mentioned go ideally we get another 10 of quality and then probably another midfielder and right sided attacker/winger. However the way it’s panning out it may be o brien makes way for anything to happen as the most sought after.[/quote] Midfield, I did not count Pritchard as he was no real loss, but Eiting did show something different and a bit of a spark. We all hope that Scott kicks on but I would not base my first team squad on the hope of someone kicking on. The 9 released players did not include Eiting and the goalkeeper. It seems to be smoke and mirrors re the money and we are given a bit of a run around, no one knows what money we have for sure. Our wages are less than last year and will get less based on the prospects of moving some players on. Vallejo we had last season anyway. We hope that injuries are less this season but again it is in the hand of the gods. Having full back replacements will help maintain the first team strength if we have the injuries we had last year and we should not have to end up weakening the full backs and the midfield by playing O'Brian out of position. In summation I believe that have someway to go to get a better first 11 than we had last season, but the season has not started yet and the window is still open. I guess that this discussion should go on the one on the one about Yorkshire Post's predictions than a transfer thread. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 25, 2021 12:28:36 GMT 1
If he could do a tenth of what VLP could do I may think him less hapless In fairness though Duane is a lot smaller than RVLP....they're both ineffective in the main, but given the choice I'd pick DVLH over RVLP all day, every day. Give DVLH a chance and he might surprise you/us - much like I was surprised when RVLP actually put a cross into the box rather than faffing about 3rd top scorer in the 1st PL season or a dwarf that had a good season for Scunthorpe about 5 years ago 🤔 |
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Post by arry11 on Jun 25, 2021 12:33:57 GMT 1
In fairness though Duane is a lot smaller than RVLP....they're both ineffective in the main, but given the choice I'd pick DVLH over RVLP all day, every day. Give DVLH a chance and he might surprise you/us - much like I was surprised when RVLP actually put a cross into the box rather than faffing about 3rd top scorer in the 1st PL season or a dwarf that had a good season for Scunthorpe about 5 years ago 🤔 WOW third top scorer that would not take much doing given he starved our front men. |
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Post by mids on Jun 25, 2021 12:39:41 GMT 1
In fairness though Duane is a lot smaller than RVLP....they're both ineffective in the main, but given the choice I'd pick DVLH over RVLP all day, every day. Give DVLH a chance and he might surprise you/us - much like I was surprised when RVLP actually put a cross into the box rather than faffing about or a dwarf that had a good season for Scunthorpe about 5 years ago 🤔 That's like saying I'm a faster runner than my Grandma, and she died twelve years ago Stats are great aren't they - we can make them fit anything we want them to Anyway, back on topic - announce LVM - it'll be the first Brazilian a lot on here will have seen in the flesh for a very long time |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 25, 2021 12:48:17 GMT 1
In fairness though Duane is a lot smaller than RVLP....they're both ineffective in the main, but given the choice I'd pick DVLH over RVLP all day, every day. Give DVLH a chance and he might surprise you/us - much like I was surprised when RVLP actually put a cross into the box rather than faffing about 3rd top scorer in the 1st PL season or a dwarf that had a good season for Scunthorpe about 5 years ago 🤔 Since that season RVLP has played for 5 different clubs, managed 2 goals & next season will be playing 3 Bundesliga, providing he doesn't move again. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 25, 2021 13:00:11 GMT 1
3rd top scorer in the 1st PL season or a dwarf that had a good season for Scunthorpe about 5 years ago 🤔 That's like saying I'm a faster runner than my Grandma, and she died twelve years ago Stats are great aren't they - we can make them fit anything we want them to Anyway, back on topic - announce LVM - it'll be the first Brazilian a lot on here will have seen in the flesh for a very long time Can you find a stat that doesn't make Holmes look shit ? |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 25, 2021 13:03:02 GMT 1
3rd top scorer in the 1st PL season or a dwarf that had a good season for Scunthorpe about 5 years ago 🤔 Since that season RVLP has played for 5 different clubs, managed 2 goals & next season will be playing 3 Bundesliga, providing he doesn't move again. And Holmes has got a move after begging his mate to take him on and then gone to show why he wasn't getting picked for his old team |
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Post by terriersyndrome on Jun 25, 2021 13:19:35 GMT 1
Since that season RVLP has played for 5 different clubs, managed 2 goals & next season will be playing 3 Bundesliga, providing he doesn't move again. And Holmes has got a move after begging his mate to take him on and then gone to show why he wasn't getting picked for his old team Aren't you the guy that thinks O'brien, Eiting, Pipa & Toffolo aren't good enough for town & obsessed about the size of Rhodes wallet? |
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Post by dm on Jun 25, 2021 14:03:38 GMT 1
Since that season RVLP has played for 5 different clubs, managed 2 goals & next season will be playing 3 Bundesliga, providing he doesn't move again. And Holmes has got a move after begging his mate to take him on and then gone to show why he wasn't getting picked for his old team ? |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 25, 2021 14:21:13 GMT 1
And Holmes has got a move after begging his mate to take him on and then gone to show why he wasn't getting picked for his old team ? He admitted in his interview after signing that he played in a behind closed doors game against Town just so he could ask Bromby to sign him |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 25, 2021 14:22:02 GMT 1
And Holmes has got a move after begging his mate to take him on and then gone to show why he wasn't getting picked for his old team Aren't you the guy that thinks O'brien, Eiting, Pipa & Toffolo aren't good enough for town & obsessed about the size of Rhodes wallet? Less obsessed about the size of it than he is 🤣 |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 25, 2021 14:25:01 GMT 1
And Holmes has got a move after begging his mate to take him on and then gone to show why he wasn't getting picked for his old team Aren't you the guy that thinks O'brien, Eiting, Pipa & Toffolo aren't good enough for town & obsessed about the size of Rhodes wallet? I don't think O'Brien is anything special, Eiting was invisible more often than not and the 2 FB's are defensively poor, if that's what you mean 🤔 |
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Post by mids on Jun 25, 2021 14:42:38 GMT 1
Aren't you the guy that thinks O'brien, Eiting, Pipa & Toffolo aren't good enough for town & obsessed about the size of Rhodes wallet? I don't think O'Brien is anything special, Eiting was invisible more often than not and the 2 FB's are defensively poor, if that's what you mean 🤔 But RVLP was a low rent Lionel Messi, and the third highest scorer, in the lowest scoring team (probably - I can't be arsed to check) in our first season in the Premier League |
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Post by mids on Jun 25, 2021 14:45:40 GMT 1
That's like saying I'm a faster runner than my Grandma, and she died twelve years ago Stats are great aren't they - we can make them fit anything we want them to Anyway, back on topic - announce LVM - it'll be the first Brazilian a lot on here will have seen in the flesh for a very long time Can you find a stat that doesn't make Holmes look shit ? I don't have to - because he isn't. Far from it. You've watched Town long enough to know that there's a multitude of players we have endured who truly were total garbage, and DVLH isn't one of them. He might not be a world beater, but i don't expect him to be. I want him to graft, create, score, and contribute - I think given a fair wind and some better players (with some confidence) around him he will do ok for us. |
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Post by Teddington Ted on Jun 25, 2021 14:53:43 GMT 1
Can you find a stat that doesn't make Holmes look shit ? I don't have to - because he isn't. Far from it. You've watched Town long enough to know that there's a multitude of players we have endured who truly were total garbage, and DVLH isn't one of them. He might not be a world beater, but i don't expect him to be. I want him to graft, create, score, and contribute - I think given a fair wind and some better players (with some confidence) around him he will do ok for us. That’s not in the rules, Mids. Players are either worth at least £8m or utter dogshit. Make your choice ASAP and then stick to it, no matter what, until they leave/retire. |
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Post by Porrohman on Jun 25, 2021 14:59:15 GMT 1
I don't have to - because he isn't. Far from it. You've watched Town long enough to know that there's a multitude of players we have endured who truly were total garbage, and DVLH isn't one of them. He might not be a world beater, but i don't expect him to be. I want him to graft, create, score, and contribute - I think given a fair wind and some better players (with some confidence) around him he will do ok for us. That’s not in the rules, Mids. Players are either worth at least £8m or utter dogshit. Make your choice ASAP and then stick to it, no matter what, until they leave/retire. Well, he's certainly not in the worth £8m bracket 🤣 |
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Jun 25, 2021 15:52:44 GMT 1
I don't think O'Brien is anything special, Eiting was invisible more often than not and the 2 FB's are defensively poor, if that's what you mean 🤔 But RVLP was a low rent Lionel Messi, and the third highest scorer, in the lowest scoring team (probably - I can't be arsed to check) in our first season in the Premier League He was only the 4th highest scorer in PL games with 3 goals including the penalty he nicked off Mounie. His other two gaols were scored against Birmingham in the cup. And no I didn't rate him either. |
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