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Post by kayeb222 on May 21, 2021 3:10:08 GMT 1
Might as well sign Steve Bull. He was prolific once upon a time too. I'd prefer Craig Maskell!! |
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Post by Porrohman on May 21, 2021 6:10:34 GMT 1
Only town fans could Diss a guy who scored 40 goals in a season for us. Can he still score goals ? Let's see . Have his "legs gone " ? Did he ever have legs in the first place ? I'm happy to see how this pans out . Yeah, you're right. Let's bring back Maskell, Iwan and Ian Robins too, they could score over 30 in a season years ago and they were better all round players. |
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Post by Porrohman on May 21, 2021 6:12:44 GMT 1
Can't even begin to argue with your two points. ....but can you justify a THREE year contract? .....because I'm struggling and after Danny Ward / Duane Holmes I'm beginning to wonder if the approach is correct? PS ...Of course a massive wage cut has had to be involved as well.... If it’s either loads of money that uses up a big part of the budget combined with a short contract, or reasonable money that fits with what we’ve budgeted over a longer deal, which do you prefer? Neither |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on May 21, 2021 6:32:36 GMT 1
Only town fans could Diss a guy who scored 40 goals in a season for us. Can he still score goals ? Let's see . Have his "legs gone " ? Did he ever have legs in the first place ? I'm happy to see how this pans out . Yeah, you're right. Let's bring back Maskell, Iwan and Ian Robins too, they could score over 30 in a season years ago and they were better all round players. Jordan Rhodes is 31 . Conceivable that he could still score goals though I accept it might not work out . I doubt all our eggs are in the rhodes basket and I also doubt he will cost us much . Craig Maskell is 53 which in professional football terms means his career is over . Whether he was a better player than Rhodes or not in 1988 is immaterial . A bit like me cracking onto a hot 25 year old that I was sexy in 1992 . This time last year I was doing my nut when we signed Danny Ward. Whilst I can understand concerns about Rhodes I have a weird feeling it might not be as bad as people think . And even if it is Rhodes gets HUGE RESPECT from me for all his goals for town. |
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Post by mids on May 21, 2021 7:13:27 GMT 1
There's not a chance Jordan Rhodes is coming back here on tens of thousands of pounds - football is changing, players have to adjust, and Town are definitely going to be run sensibly. I highly doubt Carlos will have sanctioned this move if he didn't think Rhodes could play in his system. He may do, he may not. What i do know is that if there was a one on one in the penalty box I'd fully expect Rhodes to score more often then any of the strikers we already have on our books, and possibly will have by August.
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Post by tyketaffy on May 21, 2021 7:49:45 GMT 1
Out of recent strikers we have had from the Promotion year onwards who would you back to put the ball in the net most often given half a chance ? Take your pick of those of those and compare to the chances Rhodes puts away given the service. A solid defence keeping clean sheets and we only need one goal for the three points and I reckon Rhodes will score more than he misses.
Hes obviously not one for the future but as a decent striker still who can nick us games,well worth the punt IMO at this point in time.
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Post by htfcsince70 on May 21, 2021 8:50:56 GMT 1
Someone once asked me what does Jordan Rhodes do? My reply after some thought was - he scores goals - simple really. My SWFC supporting mates and family all believe that with the right service he would have scored goals for them - even when he played well he was often dropped to the bench the following game, something that they could never understand. Some question him fitting into Corberan's style which is what? Get the ball into the box? How many times as that happened and we either have no player there or the striker is not aware enough to get across the defender, or the second ball simply gets cleared. Jordan Rhodes will not get away off the shoulder with a burst of pace over 20 meters, what he will do is be bright and alert to the second ball/half chance, he will be sharp over the first metre across the defender, he will be different to the strikers that we have, defenders will be aware that he is a threat and will need marking creating space for others - he will, I believe with the right service, score goals. I doubt that he will cause trouble, he will always give his best and our young strikers might just learn something from him - I'm okay with his return if and when it happens.
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Post by Niggled on May 21, 2021 9:01:52 GMT 1
Battle hardened, Jordan Rhodes ?. I grant you that he can put the ball in the net, but workrate or battle are not what I would associate with him. I'm just not sure he can play Carlos ball. Outside the box he brings nothing , up front on his own. Not for me. What the fuck is Carlos ball? Even Carlos doesn't know! I used the term ". Carlos ball" as I didn't want to put " our style of play " or " our tactics" . Because I wouldn't have been able to explain. Therefore Carlos ball it is. |
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Post by htfc1908 on May 21, 2021 9:23:12 GMT 1
Just think how many times in a game Josh Koroma cuts inside and gets a shot away only for it to get palmed away by their goalkeeper and then cleared? well Jordan Rhodes will be there now to pick up the pieces and smash it into the net  |
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 21, 2021 10:25:52 GMT 1
Someone once asked me what does Jordan Rhodes do? My reply after some thought was - he scores goals - simple really. My SWFC supporting mates and family all believe that with the right service he would have scored goals for them - even when he played well he was often dropped to the bench the following game, something that they could never understand. Some question him fitting into Corberan's style which is what? Get the ball into the box? How many times as that happened and we either have no player there or the striker is not aware enough to get across the defender, or the second ball simply gets cleared. Jordan Rhodes will not get away off the shoulder with a burst of pace over 20 meters, what he will do is be bright and alert to the second ball/half chance, he will be sharp over the first metre across the defender, he will be different to the strikers that we have, defenders will be aware that he is a threat and will need marking creating space for others - he will, I believe with the right service, score goals. I doubt that he will cause trouble, he will always give his best and our young strikers might just learn something from him - I'm okay with his return if and when it happens. Great post . A terrible trait to have isn’t it - scoring goals! We should all recall games this season when you looked at the bench and realised that we had no one on there who could change the game? I believe he’ll start quite a lot of games and with the right service will score goals. |
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Post by Tinpot on May 21, 2021 10:29:58 GMT 1
Someone once asked me what does Jordan Rhodes do? My reply after some thought was - he scores goals - simple really. My SWFC supporting mates and family all believe that with the right service he would have scored goals for them - even when he played well he was often dropped to the bench the following game, something that they could never understand. Some question him fitting into Corberan's style which is what? Get the ball into the box? How many times as that happened and we either have no player there or the striker is not aware enough to get across the defender, or the second ball simply gets cleared. Jordan Rhodes will not get away off the shoulder with a burst of pace over 20 meters, what he will do is be bright and alert to the second ball/half chance, he will be sharp over the first metre across the defender, he will be different to the strikers that we have, defenders will be aware that he is a threat and will need marking creating space for others - he will, I believe with the right service, score goals. I doubt that he will cause trouble, he will always give his best and our young strikers might just learn something from him - I'm okay with his return if and when it happens. Great post . A terrible trait to have isn’t it - scoring goals! We should all recall games this season when you looked at the bench and realised that we had no one on there who could change the game? I believe he’ll start quite a lot of games and with the right service will score goals. This is my issue with Rhodes. I can see value in each of Campbell, Ward & Rhodes as squad players but none of them fill me with confidence as a regular in the squad, the way CC seems to want to play. Each of them are good options to have off the bench, but I still see us struggling with that position day to day if he's the only incoming striker. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 21, 2021 10:52:41 GMT 1
Shame Wycombe got relegated - I’d look forward to seeing another 5 goal cameo from JR. 😀
JR was unquestionably the best natural finisher I think I’ve ever seen at Town, but a very long way from being the best player. Whether or not he’s still got that instinct remains to be seen. A lot depends on the service he’ll get. Hopefully it will be a success.
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Post by leytherterrier on May 21, 2021 11:06:27 GMT 1
With JR it’s all about him playing between the 18yard box. Don’t go out wide and don’t come too deep just stay up top and then come alive when the ball comes into the box. He will be the most natural finisher at the club and will be a great person for harratt and Philips to learn from on learning how to make smart movements in the box to create space for yourself to get a shot away
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Post by jqhtfc on May 21, 2021 11:10:05 GMT 1
I’m fine with Rhodes returning the lad can finish no issues there, however the big thing for me is we recruit around him in order to create chances don’t do that he’ll struggle
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Post by deepc on May 21, 2021 11:21:10 GMT 1
I’m fine with Rhodes returning the lad can finish no issues there, however the big thing for me is we recruit around him in order to create chances don’t do that he’ll struggle Agree, last time he had Pilkington and Roberts out wide with Peltier overlapping all providing crosses for him |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 21, 2021 11:26:16 GMT 1
He needs 4 goals to become our 6th all time top scorer & 22 to be in the top 5.
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Post by johncoddington5 on May 21, 2021 11:32:37 GMT 1
I’m fine with Rhodes returning the lad can finish no issues there, however the big thing for me is we recruit around him in order to create chances don’t do that he’ll struggle Agree, last time he had Pilkington and Roberts out wide with Peltier overlapping all providing crosses for him Pettier! That’s our right back sorted then! |
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Post by CaptainHart on May 21, 2021 11:36:41 GMT 1
I’m fine with Rhodes returning the lad can finish no issues there, however the big thing for me is we recruit around him in order to create chances don’t do that he’ll struggle Agree, last time he had Pilkington and Roberts out wide with Peltier overlapping all providing crosses for him Some of it was down to his ability. They knew if they got the ball into the right area chances were he'd get on the end of it. One of our problems has been that when we get forward we haven't known what to do, it's a lot easier when you know you've got someone to aim for. |
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Post by tyketaffy on May 21, 2021 11:41:53 GMT 1
Someone once asked me what does Jordan Rhodes do? My reply after some thought was - he scores goals - simple really. My SWFC supporting mates and family all believe that with the right service he would have scored goals for them - even when he played well he was often dropped to the bench the following game, something that they could never understand. Some question him fitting into Corberan's style which is what? Get the ball into the box? How many times as that happened and we either have no player there or the striker is not aware enough to get across the defender, or the second ball simply gets cleared. Jordan Rhodes will not get away off the shoulder with a burst of pace over 20 meters, what he will do is be bright and alert to the second ball/half chance, he will be sharp over the first metre across the defender, he will be different to the strikers that we have, defenders will be aware that he is a threat and will need marking creating space for others - he will, I believe with the right service, score goals. I doubt that he will cause trouble, he will always give his best and our young strikers might just learn something from him - I'm okay with his return if and when it happens. I think it was Mick Buxton told the tale of a striker (I think played for Burnley) who scored four goals in a drubbing of the opposition and overheard the following conversation after the match ......Supporter one..that lazy so and so does nothing for the team just hangs around the opposition box...supporter two.. what the fuck he scored four goals today ! Supporter one okay yes he did, but you tell me one other thing he did to help his team mates he never tracked back once and helped out in defence !
I might have got the story worng in parts but basically it sums up some peoples attitudes. Maybe someone else remembers the story more better than me and can tell the tale better ?
The best comment was made by a mate of mine at the time when we were pushing for promotion from the old div 3 and played Cardiff at Leeds road in a 6 pointer. He was asked about Mark Lillis by some radio reporter and his answer was Mark Lillis would never be a striker .....we beat them 4-0 and Mark Lillis got all four  |
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Post by terriersyndrome on May 21, 2021 11:42:23 GMT 1
I read a stat afew weeks ago that we'd scored the fewest amount of goals in the 6 yard box, I suspect that might change with a poacher in the team
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Post by incognito on May 21, 2021 12:06:29 GMT 1
Ah fuck it... I'm in.
Get him announced and we can worry about "systems" nearer the time...
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Post by overtonterrierspirit on May 21, 2021 12:28:32 GMT 1
Great post . A terrible trait to have isn’t it - scoring goals! We should all recall games this season when you looked at the bench and realised that we had no one on there who could change the game? I believe he’ll start quite a lot of games and with the right service will score goals. This is my issue with Rhodes. I can see value in each of Campbell, Ward & Rhodes as squad players but none of them fill me with confidence as a regular in the squad, the way CC seems to want to play. Each of them are good options to have off the bench, but I still see us struggling with that position day to day if he's the only incoming striker. Think that’s a valid point. I’d agree that we need one more ( younger ) striker to be brought in. If that happened I think we’ll get goals next season. |
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Post by mids on May 21, 2021 12:29:39 GMT 1
I’m fine with Rhodes returning the lad can finish no issues there, however the big thing for me is we recruit around him in order to create chances don’t do that he’ll struggle To be fair with the standard of chances Town have created over the past year or so, even Harry Kane  would struggle |
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Post by melbourneterrier on May 21, 2021 12:33:16 GMT 1
Surely will score more than Niasse and Sanogo
Knows where the goal is.
My concerns are length of the deal and what happens during a bad spell... he doesn't really offer anything else
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Post by VLP Fan Club on May 21, 2021 12:38:07 GMT 1
Fuck it
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Post by Melc on May 21, 2021 12:44:30 GMT 1
Surely will score more than Niasse and Sanogo Knows where the goal is. My concerns are length of the deal and what happens during a bad spell... he doesn't really offer anything else We have had our fair share of players doing nothing at all who cost millions, so it is a positive if all we get is more goals for me! |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2021 12:49:48 GMT 1
The other point which I think is valid is that we have a squad riddled with inexperience. The Championship is a bloody tough league - we need some battle hardened pro’s in our squad. Battle hardened, Jordan Rhodes ?. I grant you that he can put the ball in the net, but workrate or battle are not what I would associate with him. I'm just not sure he can play Carlos ball. Outside the box he brings nothing , up front on his own. Not for me. I'm guessing you didn't watch the final Derby v. Wednesday game. He had nothing to play for. He knew he was off. He also knew that a broken leg would really fuck things up for him. But he battled and grafted and got two really nasty head knocks for his troubles. And he still kept on. Surprised me, I'll admit. |
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Post by Drew Peacock on May 21, 2021 12:50:54 GMT 1
I know we're signing a few ex players etc but part of that is now signing players who get on, to build a good dressing room and team spirit. Rhodes is probably part of that thinking. Pearson is mates with Holmes, probably means he knows Ward too. Less cliques can only be a good thing, it will be nice to see a team fighting for each other again. Fingers crossed.
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Post by Porrohman on May 21, 2021 12:52:09 GMT 1
Battle hardened, Jordan Rhodes ?. I grant you that he can put the ball in the net, but workrate or battle are not what I would associate with him. I'm just not sure he can play Carlos ball. Outside the box he brings nothing , up front on his own. Not for me. I'm guessing you didn't watch the final Derby v. Wednesday game. He had nothing to play for. He knew he was off. He also knew that a broken leg would really fuck things up for him. But he battled and grafted and got two really nasty head knocks for his troubles. And he still kept on. Surprised me, I'll admit. Are you counting the one for the first goal when he actually got kicked on the wallet, the only thing that touched his head was the ball. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2021 13:01:03 GMT 1
I'm guessing you didn't watch the final Derby v. Wednesday game. He had nothing to play for. He knew he was off. He also knew that a broken leg would really fuck things up for him. But he battled and grafted and got two really nasty head knocks for his troubles. And he still kept on. Surprised me, I'll admit. Are you counting the one for the first goal when he actually got kicked on the wallet, the only thing that touched his head was the ball. Easiest thing for him to do that day would have been to say "I can't play, Gaffer. Feel a bit rough (or have a cyst behind my knee)". But, to be fair, he didn't hold back. |
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