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Post by linson on Jun 6, 2021 21:19:57 GMT 1
I remember thinking Antony Kay was the best player in league 1... I saw him down at Canalside the other day Ruffels or Kay?
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Post by goodbet on Jun 6, 2021 21:35:19 GMT 1
Whereas I know you're always looking to improve your squad but you have to say at some point we're ready for a tilt at promotion, although I'd have to question whether club do actually want promotion again. I think they most definitely want it.I would suggest though that they would like to be ready for it.Or at least a considerable amount more ready for it. Phil or the club came up with a statement saying words to the effect that we would be competing at the top of the Championship in 5 years time. I don't think what we are building at the moment is getting ready to take on the division this year. The whole of the comments and statements from the club have been about Covid the lack of funds with the one on I mentioned above about a longer timeline that we expected when we were relegated. I am sure that the Phil and the club want promotion but are possibly being realistic about their ability to bring this about? I don't know Phil but if I was in his position I know what would bring me the greatest amount of kudos and financial gain, this could only be promotion. Do any of the signings look like the start of a promotion winning side? I don't think so, but what looks like a pragmatic stab at stability and the beginning of moving the team in the right direction. Will it be enough, we will see when the window closes and the team start performing on the field. That is the best I can make out of the comments and actions that the club have made since relegation. I am sure it is not what most people want to hear, but if you have a sunnier view of where we are I would suggest that you try to be realistic or take off the rose tinted specs.
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Post by Toxic Ted on Jun 7, 2021 11:05:58 GMT 1
Step by step we’ll get there.
I’ve no doubt the squad we start the season with will look a damned sight better than we ended the last with. We need a solid base before we get ideas above our station.
Ward, Rhodes, Campbell...they aren’t firing us into the PL but they’ll tick us over for the 2-3 years we need to see the fruits of our labour develop and the youngsters we are bringing through hopefully develop into good Championship players.
Koroma and Grant training with and watching Rhodes’ movement & finishing in the box should help them hugely.
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Post by sapphireblue on Jun 7, 2021 17:01:01 GMT 1
Step by step we’ll get there. Koroma and Grant training with and watching Rhodes’ movement & finishing in the box should help them hugely. It will be the first time Koroma has played with a striker who gets into space, in the box, at the right time. Will give him a great alternative when he cuts in from the left. Also means that defences are less likely to ba able to "double-up" on him when he does.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 17:37:13 GMT 1
An Oxford-supporting mate got in touch yesterday because they're expecting it to happen their end. He watches his team a lot, knows his stuff and I trust him to be neutral - rather than that thing people do sometimes when a player moves on! - so here's some of his comments:
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Post by dezzly on Jun 7, 2021 17:49:06 GMT 1
An Oxford-supporting mate got in touch yesterday because they're expecting it to happen their end. He watches his team a lot, knows his stuff and I trust him to be neutral - rather than that thing people do sometimes when a player moves on! - so here's some of his comments: Bit of a mixed bag there.to try take a couple of positives.The assists and goal scoring elements are obvious plus points.The bit about playing high particularly stood out as certainly before Christmas that is what both our fullbacks were expected to do.So he may suit how we want to play.Hopefully with better cover(I’m kind of hoping sarr is pushed back to backup at left centre half with the addition of a loan there..hopefully one with pace) Obviously the stand out negative would be that the better wingers seemed to have him on toast.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2021 18:16:07 GMT 1
An Oxford-supporting mate got in touch yesterday because they're expecting it to happen their end. He watches his team a lot, knows his stuff and I trust him to be neutral - rather than that thing people do sometimes when a player moves on! - so here's some of his comments: Bit of a mixed bag there.to try take a couple of positives.The assists and goal scoring elements are obvious plus points.The bit about playing high particularly stood out as certainly before Christmas that is what both our fullbacks were expected to do.So he may suit how we want to play.Hopefully with better cover(I’m kind of hoping sarr is pushed back to backup at left centre half with the addition of a loan there..hopefully one with pace) Obviously the stand out negative would be that the better wingers seemed to have him on toast. Aye - no sugar-coating, but sounds like a decent option. If he had no obvious flaws, he wouldn't be coming here as backup. I'm making an assumption there - but I expect most people have drawn the same conclusion? (Apart from the "we're being asset-stripped" element, obviously) If that's the case, I guess he has to tick two boxes: 1. For Corberán to trust him more than he did Jaden Brown. 2. To be a better option at left-back than an out-of-position LoB. Might not be the highest of bars, but even without having seen him play - I reckon that's two big ticks!
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Post by dezzly on Jun 7, 2021 18:26:12 GMT 1
Bit of a mixed bag there.to try take a couple of positives.The assists and goal scoring elements are obvious plus points.The bit about playing high particularly stood out as certainly before Christmas that is what both our fullbacks were expected to do.So he may suit how we want to play.Hopefully with better cover(I’m kind of hoping sarr is pushed back to backup at left centre half with the addition of a loan there..hopefully one with pace) Obviously the stand out negative would be that the better wingers seemed to have him on toast. Aye - no sugar-coating, but sounds like a decent option. If he had no obvious flaws, he wouldn't be coming here as backup. I'm making an assumption there - but I expect most people have drawn the same conclusion? (Apart from the "we're being asset-stripped" element, obviously) If that's the case, I guess he has to tick two boxes: 1. For Corberán to trust him more than he did Jaden Brown. 2. To be a better option at left-back than an out-of-position LoB. Might not be the highest of bars, but even without having seen him play - I reckon that's two big ticks! Would agree there.Although would just add in that every chance he has to step up sooner rather than later as should the right bid come for toffolo I don’t think the club would stand in his way were it to make another step up.That could potentially be a factor why he has come to us not forest.Although I can’t claim to know forests left back credentials.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Jun 7, 2021 18:30:16 GMT 1
I remember thinking Antony Kay was the best player in league 1... I saw him down at Canalside the other day Presumably there is some building work going on and they needed an expert for the “pointing”
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Post by specialun on Jun 7, 2021 23:37:59 GMT 1
Another very experienced league 1 defender
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Jun 8, 2021 6:48:58 GMT 1
Aye - no sugar-coating, but sounds like a decent option. If he had no obvious flaws, he wouldn't be coming here as backup. I'm making an assumption there - but I expect most people have drawn the same conclusion? (Apart from the "we're being asset-stripped" element, obviously) If that's the case, I guess he has to tick two boxes: 1. For Corberán to trust him more than he did Jaden Brown. 2. To be a better option at left-back than an out-of-position LoB. Might not be the highest of bars, but even without having seen him play - I reckon that's two big ticks! Would agree there.Although would just add in that every chance he has to step up sooner rather than later as should the right bid come for toffolo I don’t think the club would stand in his way were it to make another step up.That could potentially be a factor why he has come to us not forest.Although I can’t claim to know forests left back credentials. Forest's left back options are really poor - their forum seemed to think he was going there to start - so interesting that he has chosen a team with a nailed on starter already at left back 🤔.
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Post by htfc1908 on Jun 8, 2021 7:40:41 GMT 1
Would agree there.Although would just add in that every chance he has to step up sooner rather than later as should the right bid come for toffolo I don’t think the club would stand in his way were it to make another step up.That could potentially be a factor why he has come to us not forest.Although I can’t claim to know forests left back credentials. Forest's left back options are really poor - their forum seemed to think he was coming to start - so interesting that he has chosen a team with a nailed on starter already at left back 🤔. Good point is that, perhaps Ruffels has been given the nod that Toffs off, although having said that Toffs been saying how happy he is here and can't wait for the new season.
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Post by dezzly on Jun 8, 2021 7:56:40 GMT 1
Forest's left back options are really poor - their forum seemed to think he was coming to start - so interesting that he has chosen a team with a nailed on starter already at left back 🤔. Good point is that, perhaps Ruffels has been given the nod that Toffs off, although having said that Toffs been saying how happy he is here and can't wait for the new season. With a character like toffolo would imagine it could be both.He maybe be very open to any offers from the top of the champ or prem whilst remaining committed to town up to the point he was no Longer our player. Ruffels may have been given some sort of nod though that if toff doesn’t leave this summer most likely he will next. I think we can all admit if toff carries on his performance level there will be a bid at some point. I guess the best scenario is toff starts this season with ruffels deputising as and when needed whilst getting used to the methods and intensity of carlos for him to be ready the following season to be first choice with hopefully Ben Jackson well and truly ready to be his backup. Obviously that’s an ideal and we know football never works that way 😂 suppose you have to work to some sort of plan though
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Jun 8, 2021 7:56:43 GMT 1
Forest's left back options are really poor - their forum seemed to think he was coming to start - so interesting that he has chosen a team with a nailed on starter already at left back 🤔. Good point is that, perhaps Ruffels has been given the nod that Toffs off, although having said that Toffs been saying how happy he is here and can't wait for the new season. Toff hasn't played much since February. We need 2 full backs to avoid burn out plus Ruffels can play in midfield. He would get 20-30 games in a season with us.
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Post by space hardware on Jun 8, 2021 9:34:03 GMT 1
Another very experienced league 1 defender We'll have a great squad for our League One play-off push in 2022/23 😁😁
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Post by kirkheatonterrier on Jun 8, 2021 10:42:49 GMT 1
Bit early for a L1 play off push. What about our 3 years of consolidation?
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Post by alexdire on Jun 8, 2021 11:22:33 GMT 1
Bit early for a L1 play off push. What about our 3 years of consolidation? In league one?
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Post by Melc on Jun 8, 2021 11:55:29 GMT 1
Can we have a bit more positivity on here. Last season has gone….time to enjoy the summer and then we start all over again. Who knows we might just have a good season!
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jun 8, 2021 12:49:34 GMT 1
Can we have a bit more positivity on here. Last season has gone….time to enjoy the summer and then we start all over again. Who knows we might just have a good season! we might.
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Post by goodbet on Jun 8, 2021 13:36:30 GMT 1
Can we have a bit more positivity on here. Last season has gone….time to enjoy the summer and then we start all over again. Who knows we might just have a good season! I have tried to be realistic and not as negative as I think that the situation deserves and I will continue in this vain until we have seen what the summer brings. I believe that generally the mood has lifted and we are all living in hope that a new dawn will begin with the new season. There may be a few little digs now and again made in jest but that will be all.
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Post by mightyterrier on Jun 8, 2021 21:50:21 GMT 1
There’s one or two Colin Robinsons on this thread, sucking up the energy!
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Post by specialun on Jun 8, 2021 23:45:23 GMT 1
Can we have a bit more positivity on here. Last season has gone….time to enjoy the summer and then we start all over again. Who knows we might just have a good season! Our last 2 signings rb / gk and new signing to come lb are very experienced league 1 / 2 players and have good injury records Our new striker had a fantastic record for us in his first spell for us a decade ago and had a great goal scoring record up till 2015/16 Our new centre half is no nonsense and finished higher than us last season in the Championship All of the above came in early It’s sunny We haven’t lost for over a month There we go - happy days!
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Post by tyketaffy on Jun 9, 2021 6:45:18 GMT 1
The start of the season since I was a young lad (1968) I always expect Town to do well, but like most things in life its a series of ups and downs...in towns case far too many downs This season is no different for me, I expect us to do well until proved otherwise, but the key words are "do well". For me flirting with the play offs even if we don’t make it is a great season given the last few years when its been seemingly non stop losses and relegation staring us in the face, and with the club and fans seemingly losing touch with each other has not helped the mood. To be realistic we are a small town club who have punched above their weight some seasons and achieved promotion on tiny budgets with journeymen and unknown youngsters gelling under a manager who inspires them with his vision. We have to be honest in our aims, sure the prem would be great but simply staying above mid table in this league is a realistic goal most years. But I suspect like most of you no matter what happens, Town will always be your team. If you want guaranteed success jump ship and follow one of the big clubs with billionaire owners, but for me come what may Town will always be my team and I will look forward each season with positivity no matter what league we are in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 13:20:46 GMT 1
The start of the season since I was a young lad (1968) I always expect Town to do well, but like most things in life its a series of ups and downs...in towns case far too many downs This season is no different for me, I expect us to do well until proved otherwise, but the key words are "do well". For me flirting with the play offs even if we don’t make it is a great season given the last few years when its been seemingly non stop losses and relegation staring us in the face, and with the club and fans seemingly losing touch with each other has not helped the mood. To be realistic we are a small town club who have punched above their weight some seasons and achieved promotion on tiny budgets with journeymen and unknown youngsters gelling under a manager who inspires them with his vision. We have to be honest in our aims, sure the prem would be great but simply staying above mid table in this league is a realistic goal most years. But I suspect like most of you no matter what happens, Town will always be your team. If you want guaranteed success jump ship and follow one of the big clubs with billionaire owners, but for me come what may Town will always be my team and I will look forward each season with positivity no matter what league we are in. Spot on this - well done mate UTT!
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Post by JG Mellor on Jun 9, 2021 14:33:14 GMT 1
The start of the season since I was a young lad (1968) I always expect Town to do well, but like most things in life its a series of ups and downs...in towns case far too many downs This season is no different for me, I expect us to do well until proved otherwise, but the key words are "do well". For me flirting with the play offs even if we don’t make it is a great season given the last few years when its been seemingly non stop losses and relegation staring us in the face, and with the club and fans seemingly losing touch with each other has not helped the mood. To be realistic we are a small town club who have punched above their weight some seasons and achieved promotion on tiny budgets with journeymen and unknown youngsters gelling under a manager who inspires them with his vision. We have to be honest in our aims, sure the prem would be great but simply staying above mid table in this league is a realistic goal most years. But I suspect like most of you no matter what happens, Town will always be your team. If you want guaranteed success jump ship and follow one of the big clubs with billionaire owners, but for me come what may Town will always be my team and I will look forward each season with positivity no matter what league we are in. I've been watching Town since 1969, so understand your total lack of ambition and acceptance of mediocrity. I'm sadly hanging up my this season, because I'm getting on a bit and life's just too short to spend my weekends being disappointed. Out of sight, out of mind. UTMT.
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Post by ColchTerrier on Jun 9, 2021 14:39:53 GMT 1
Aim for the top, otherwise what’s the point.
I want what little old Brentford have.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 9, 2021 15:00:11 GMT 1
An Oxford-supporting mate got in touch yesterday because they're expecting it to happen their end. He watches his team a lot, knows his stuff and I trust him to be neutral - rather than that thing people do sometimes when a player moves on! - so here's some of his comments: In terms of being turned inside out by wingers, Im not sure the wingers in the championship will be as better at doing that as they are in league 1 like he suggests. I think the difference in quality is probably more in the cross or pass they make afterwards. Looking at this signing if it happens, we needed back ups for both full back positions and we've gone for experience and reliability rather than promise and potential. Dont have a problem with that myself. The possible benefits are less but its the safer option because the potential pitfalls are less too. Jaden Brown was promise and potential and when push came to shove he wasn't even considered good enough to be an option really. We may not have spent transfer fees yet, but presuming this one happens, thats 5 signings that Id be confident will improve the squad, with 2 or 3 of them improving the first XI too.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jun 9, 2021 15:08:51 GMT 1
The start of the season since I was a young lad (1968) I always expect Town to do well, but like most things in life its a series of ups and downs...in towns case far too many downs This season is no different for me, I expect us to do well until proved otherwise, but the key words are "do well". For me flirting with the play offs even if we don’t make it is a great season given the last few years when its been seemingly non stop losses and relegation staring us in the face, and with the club and fans seemingly losing touch with each other has not helped the mood. To be realistic we are a small town club who have punched above their weight some seasons and achieved promotion on tiny budgets with journeymen and unknown youngsters gelling under a manager who inspires them with his vision. We have to be honest in our aims, sure the prem would be great but simply staying above mid table in this league is a realistic goal most years. But I suspect like most of you no matter what happens, Town will always be your team. If you want guaranteed success jump ship and follow one of the big clubs with billionaire owners, but for me come what may Town will always be my team and I will look forward each season with positivity no matter what league we are in. I've been watching Town since 1969, so understand your total lack of ambition and acceptance of mediocrity. I'm sadly hanging up my this season, because I'm getting on a bit and life's just too short to spend my weekends being disappointed. Out of sight, out of mind. UTMT. I don't think being in the championship is 'mediocrity' for Town. Ive got 10 years less than you in terms of going, and for my time following the club its League 1 thats been the standard fare, so thats where mediocrity is as I see it. Being established in the championship is not lacking ambition as far as Town are concerned IMO. It is in itself an ambition ( this is a really competitive division with plenty of much bigger clubs in it ) .. its just one that were actually achieving during this spell in the clubs history.
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Post by terriers2000 on Jun 9, 2021 17:32:02 GMT 1
announced on friday in the new third kit?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 17:32:35 GMT 1
I've been watching Town since 1969, so understand your total lack of ambition and acceptance of mediocrity. I'm sadly hanging up my this season, because I'm getting on a bit and life's just too short to spend my weekends being disappointed. Out of sight, out of mind. UTMT. I don't think being in the championship is 'mediocrity' for Town. Ive got 10 years less than you in terms of going, and for my time following the club its League 1 thats been the standard fare, so thats where mediocrity is as I see it. Being established in the championship is not lacking ambition as far as Town are concerned IMO. It is in itself an ambition ( this is a really competitive division with plenty of much bigger clubs in it ) .. its just one that were actually achieving during this spell in the clubs history. Agree to be in there chsampionsship is no mean achievement
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