OTIUM

[Champers]

Black people are a race.

Gammon is a characteristic.

That's pretty much all there is to it, no matter how anyone tries twisting it.

Regardless of any of that though, this shit needs to stop now as its just getting out of hand and making this place a hotbed of hostility. We all come on here because of the same reason, we all love the Town. We all have differing opinions, ideals, political leanings, etc, and yeah, those kind of things will cause a few swords to be crossed every now and again. But the past few days this place has become a total kindergarten and we are all better than this, surely?

None of us would be this cuntish to each other in person, and I include myself in that, so why do it on here? Whatever it takes to achieve it, we need to start being a lot fucking nicer to one another or it's never going to stop.

[El Mel]

Jul 21, 2021 20:48:19 GMT 1 Teddington Ted said:

This page of the thread highlights exactly the problem in this country today.

Terms like ‘chocolate drops’ to describe black people, ‘jokes’ about choc ices and ‘negro’ ice cream and an angry intervention arguing that no one is racist.

Racism isn’t all about high level abuse & violence, it’s this low-level normalisation of derogatory terms to belittle people based on their physical characteristics. If it isn’t called out it it only emboldens the knuckle draggers further.

Sadly, you can’t educate the ignorant and rather than acknowledge their own prejudice they simply get angry and lash out. It’s a character trait based on insecurity, small-mindedness and fear of what they cannot/will not understand.

It’s pitiful and pathetic in equal measure.

Negro is an everyday word here mate, the fact that you think I've used it to make a racist joke demonstrates how narrow minded and focussed on finding fault in others, some people have become.

Of course I've thrown it in there to highlight that narrow mindedness...

[Stavros]

Jul 21, 2021 20:20:03 GMT 1 morleyterrier said:

For fucks sake, for you fucking hand-wringers posting on here, yes you fucking absolute idiots.

How many Posters on here do you truly believe are either racist or homophobic?. Let me answer this for you, you absolute cretins. It's fucking none, zero, nobody, fucking none.

Now fuck off and post on the BBC website where you will be entertained and leave the rest of us alone.

Are you pissed or summat? There's 20 pages here precisely cos someone is homphobic (and racist) and the majority are on his side. So how the fuck you come to that conclusion is bizarre.

[terriers321]

The few times I've seen the term Gammon used, when you get to see the face behind the insult. It has been from a complete freak of society. So I wouldnt take to much notice.

[Deleted]

Jul 21, 2021 19:23:04 GMT 1 keithAM11532 said:

Jul 21, 2021 19:11:52 GMT 1 @halifaxterrier1 said:

Admins can we lock or move these Otium ones please. It's run it's course and nothing is going to change. It'll be a never ending shit show. Thanks

why don't you stop reading it then.

Bit harsh. It's top of the page and in me eyeline

[turbo2]

Jul 21, 2021 20:51:28 GMT 1 Champers said:

Black people are a race.

Gammon is a characteristic.

That's pretty much all there is to it, no matter how anyone tries twisting it.

Regardless of any of that though, this shit needs to stop now as its just getting out of hand and making this place a hotbed of hostility. We all come on here because of the same reason, we all love the Town. We all have differing opinions, ideals, political leanings, etc, and yeah, those kind of things will cause a few swords to be crossed every now and again. But the past few days this place has become a total kindergarten and we are all better than this, surely?

None of us would be this cuntish to each other in person, and I include myself in that, so why do it on here? Whatever it takes to achieve it, we need to start being a lot fucking nicer to one another or it's never going to stop.

I said days ago that most things I read online I take with a pinch of salt as folk wouldn’t say it to your face but are happy to type it

I tend to agree we are getting nowhere with the argument

I still believe Oti when he says he’s not homophonic but many don’t accept it. Hey ho

[Teddington Ted]

Jul 21, 2021 20:52:14 GMT 1 El Mel said:

Jul 21, 2021 20:48:19 GMT 1 Teddington Ted said:

This page of the thread highlights exactly the problem in this country today.

Terms like ‘chocolate drops’ to describe black people, ‘jokes’ about choc ices and ‘negro’ ice cream and an angry intervention arguing that no one is racist.

Racism isn’t all about high level abuse & violence, it’s this low-level normalisation of derogatory terms to belittle people based on their physical characteristics. If it isn’t called out it it only emboldens the knuckle draggers further.

Sadly, you can’t educate the ignorant and rather than acknowledge their own prejudice they simply get angry and lash out. It’s a character trait based on insecurity, small-mindedness and fear of what they cannot/will not understand.

It’s pitiful and pathetic in equal measure.

Negro is an everyday word here mate, the fact that you think I've used it to make a racist joke demonstrates how narrow minded and focussed on finding fault in others, some people have become.

Of course I've thrown it in there to highlight that narrow mindedness...

No one gives a fuck where you are, you’re posting on a HTAFC board based in this country. I could post from China and say murdering all your first born daughters is a great idea but it wouldn’t make it palatable or acceptable on here.

But you know that and you’re just being a dick.

[Champers]

Jul 21, 2021 21:04:05 GMT 1 turbo2 said:

Jul 21, 2021 20:51:28 GMT 1 Champers said:

Black people are a race.

Gammon is a characteristic.

That's pretty much all there is to it, no matter how anyone tries twisting it.

Regardless of any of that though, this shit needs to stop now as its just getting out of hand and making this place a hotbed of hostility. We all come on here because of the same reason, we all love the Town. We all have differing opinions, ideals, political leanings, etc, and yeah, those kind of things will cause a few swords to be crossed every now and again. But the past few days this place has become a total kindergarten and we are all better than this, surely?

None of us would be this cuntish to each other in person, and I include myself in that, so why do it on here? Whatever it takes to achieve it, we need to start being a lot fucking nicer to one another or it's never going to stop.

I said days ago that most things I read online I take with a pinch of salt as folk wouldn’t say it to your face but are happy to type it

I tend to agree we are getting nowhere with the argument

I still believe Oti when he says he’s not homophonic but many don’t accept it. Hey ho

Everyone has the right to see the situation as they want to. Nobody wants to lose face on their side of the argument and it's just spiralling now. Honestly, I've read back through the last few pages and it's just descended into an absolute shitfest. There's a poster so fed up and disillusioned that they're talking about taking a break from here for a month...at the start of a new bloody season!! That to me shows this has gone too far now.

[El Mel]

Jul 21, 2021 21:04:57 GMT 1 Teddington Ted said:

Jul 21, 2021 20:52:14 GMT 1 El Mel said:

Negro is an everyday word here mate, the fact that you think I've used it to make a racist joke demonstrates how narrow minded and focussed on finding fault in others, some people have become.

Of course I've thrown it in there to highlight that narrow mindedness...

No one gives a fuck where you are, you’re posting on a HTAFC board based in this country. I could post from China and say murdering all your first born daughters is a great idea but it wouldn’t make it palatable or acceptable on here.

But you know that and you’re just being a dick.

Comparing killing babies to the ice creams in my fridge in an attempt to win an argument.

Classy

[King Curtis]

Jul 21, 2021 20:51:28 GMT 1 Champers said:

Black people are a race. Yes

Gammon is a characteristic. That's a cured piece of pork

That's pretty much all there is to it, no matter how anyone tries twisting it.

Regardless of any of that though, this shit needs to stop now as its just getting out of hand and making this place a hotbed of hostility. We all come on here because of the same reason, we all love the Town. We all have differing opinions, ideals, political leanings, etc, and yeah, those kind of things will cause a few swords to be crossed every now and again. But the past few days this place has become a total kindergarten and we are all better than this, surely?

None of us would be this cuntish to each other in person, and I include myself in that, so why do it on here? Whatever it takes to achieve it, we need to start being a lot fucking nicer to one another or it's never going to stop.

Other than that though - spot on post.

[cyberman]

Jul 21, 2021 13:17:18 GMT 1 @brassneck said:

Jul 21, 2021 11:02:19 GMT 1 cyberman said:

Hi Guys - Just to allay fears - am sitting in my three bed roomed semi in Oakes. I use a VPN (the clue is in the name) as there are too many prying eyes on the www to make it a secure place these days.
Can allay fears that I am not Otium ! - so fear and paranoia can end there.

Just moved into the area and settling down until I move on again when my contract expires. Hopefully will get a few games in this season - might even get to meet a few of the posters in person over a pie and a pint.

Lots of reading to do on this forum. Certainly a wide spectrum of views both on football and other subjects. Makes for interesting reading in parts.

Have you ever had a beach side drinking session in Honolulu with 2 Danish supermodels, Mikhail Gorbachev, Graham Gooch and the Brazilian women's Jujitsu team?

Sadly not  -  best claim to fame is sharing a table with Chesney Hawkes dad in a restaurant in Portugal....

[Teddington Ted]

Jul 21, 2021 21:21:14 GMT 1 El Mel said:

Jul 21, 2021 21:04:57 GMT 1 Teddington Ted said:

No one gives a fuck where you are, you’re posting on a HTAFC board based in this country. I could post from China and say murdering all your first born daughters is a great idea but it wouldn’t make it palatable or acceptable on here.

But you know that and you’re just being a dick.

Comparing killing babies to the ice creams in my fridge in an attempt to win an argument.

Classy

If you keep your ice creams in your fridge you’ve got bigger problems than I thought.

Get them in the freezer!

[cyberman]

Jul 21, 2021 13:29:44 GMT 1 Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) said:

Jul 21, 2021 11:02:19 GMT 1 cyberman said:

Hi Guys - Just to allay fears - am sitting in my three bed roomed semi in Oakes. I use a VPN (the clue is in the name) as there are too many prying eyes on the www to make it a secure place these days.
Can allay fears that I am not Otium ! - so fear and paranoia can end there.

Just moved into the area and settling down until I move on again when my contract expires. Hopefully will get a few games in this season - might even get to meet a few of the posters in person over a pie and a pint.

Lots of reading to do on this forum. Certainly a wide spectrum of views both on football and other subjects. Makes for interesting reading in parts.

What's the best burger you've ever eaten?

Not really a burger fan -  but I did have one at a game which was pitched outside the White Hart Lane ground as was......that was probably the best......normally prefer fish to meat.....but not averse to the odd pork chop or bit of lamb.....why whats yours ?

[Clark W Griswald (CAS)]

Jul 21, 2021 19:11:52 GMT 1 @halifaxterrier1 said:

Admins can we lock or move these Otium ones please. It's run it's course and nothing is going to change. It'll be a never ending shit show. Thanks

Admin, could you please move this thread because I don't like it. Deary me

[Stavros]

Jul 21, 2021 21:28:59 GMT 1 cyberman said:

Jul 21, 2021 13:17:18 GMT 1 @brassneck said:

Have you ever had a beach side drinking session in Honolulu with 2 Danish supermodels, Mikhail Gorbachev, Graham Gooch and the Brazilian women's Jujitsu team?

Sadly not  -  best claim to fame is sharing a table with Chesney Hawkes dad in a restaurant in Portugal....

Wasn't Chesney Hawkes' Dad a star in his own right?

[Deleted]

Jul 21, 2021 20:17:01 GMT 1 King Curtis said:

Jul 21, 2021 20:05:11 GMT 1 Stavros said:

Sweet Baby Jesus

What's he got to do with it? Is he a gammon too?

I thought it had been established gammon is a term reserved for white people? 🤷‍♂️

[Champers]

Jul 21, 2021 21:38:18 GMT 1 Clark W Griswald (CAS) said:

Jul 21, 2021 19:11:52 GMT 1 @halifaxterrier1 said:

Admins can we lock or move these Otium ones please. It's run it's course and nothing is going to change. It'll be a never ending shit show. Thanks

Admin, could you please move this thread because I don't like it. Deary me

I suspect it's probably more because it's turned into a playground squabble than any any personal preference. It does need a line drawing under to be honest because it's going nowhere. Neither side is budging in their opinion and the admins aren't changing their minds. It's futile 😕

[Champers]

Jul 21, 2021 21:40:49 GMT 1 Stavros said:

Jul 21, 2021 21:28:59 GMT 1 cyberman said:

Sadly not  -  best claim to fame is sharing a table with Chesney Hawkes dad in a restaurant in Portugal....

Wasn't Chesney Hawkes' Dad a star in his own right?

Chip Hawkes, he was in the Tremeloes.

[4 pts]

Jul 21, 2021 20:20:03 GMT 1 morleyterrier said:

For fucks sake, for you fucking hand-wringers posting on here, yes you fucking absolute idiots.

How many Posters on here do you truly believe are either racist or homophobic?. Let me answer this for you, you absolute cretins. It's fucking none, zero, nobody, fucking none.

Now fuck off and post on the BBC website where you will be entertained and leave the rest of us alone.

What has the BBC got to do with anything 





Hypothetically 

Christopher Schindler scores the winning penalty 29/5/17 - Absolute HERO. A week later Oti makes a remark regarding homosexuality. Schindler happens to be gay, comes on here. I take great offence at that Oti, a gay man isn't a deviant.



We all know the meaning of a deviant in this day and age. It doesn't have the same meaning as it does from an Oxford dictionary that certain posters love to quote from that was published 80 yrs ago.



Would the same no marks defend Oti ? Would they f**k. Little snakes, no backbone, all slithering back under their rocks, but not before being up Christophers arse so to speak. We love you Christopher, even though you are gay.



Otium would be ostracised and this thread would be put to bed.



"Ere, our lass. Does this make me look racist or homophobic?" Do you think I have to change my wording so that it falls in a neutral category ?



I could name 10-20 little rats that manipulate wording in order to survive on this forum, but then that would have the funniest ending of all time. They would employ a solicitor based on discrimination



Embarrassing



Edit. I have no feeling either way regarding Otium but wish him all the best

[King Curtis]

Jul 21, 2021 21:43:24 GMT 1 @ennius said:

Jul 21, 2021 20:17:01 GMT 1 King Curtis said:

What's he got to do with it? Is he a gammon too?

I thought it had been established gammon is a term reserved for white people? 🤷‍♂️

Yep. So if used in a negative way, it's racist.

[shedds]

Jul 21, 2021 21:40:49 GMT 1 Stavros said:

Jul 21, 2021 21:28:59 GMT 1 cyberman said:

Sadly not  -  best claim to fame is sharing a table with Chesney Hawkes dad in a restaurant in Portugal....

Wasn't Chesney Hawkes' Dad a star in his own right?

as has already been mentioned his dad was chip hawkes from  tremeloes  and his mother was a hostess on the golden shot

[Chips Longhorn]

Jul 21, 2021 20:20:03 GMT 1 morleyterrier said:

For fucks sake, for you fucking hand-wringers posting on here, yes you fucking absolute idiots.

How many Posters on here do you truly believe are either racist or homophobic?. Let me answer this for you, you absolute cretins. It's fucking none, zero, nobody, fucking none.

Now fuck off and post on the BBC website where you will be entertained and leave the rest of us alone.

Post of the day . Written shortly before Morley combusted. You'll be missed

[Deleted]

Jul 21, 2021 21:28:59 GMT 1 cyberman said:

Jul 21, 2021 13:17:18 GMT 1 @brassneck said:

Have you ever had a beach side drinking session in Honolulu with 2 Danish supermodels, Mikhail Gorbachev, Graham Gooch and the Brazilian women's Jujitsu team?

Sadly not  -  best claim to fame is sharing a table with Chesney Hawkes dad in a restaurant in Portugal....

At risk of doing an Oti (the entertaining version with the are-they-or-aren't-they-true stories, not the other version)

I've belted out a rendition of "The One and Only" on stage alongside Chesney Hawkes himself. And I can't even sing.

I'm not proud.

[Deleted]

Jul 21, 2021 21:38:18 GMT 1 Clark W Griswald (CAS) said:

Jul 21, 2021 19:11:52 GMT 1 @halifaxterrier1 said:

Admins can we lock or move these Otium ones please. It's run it's course and nothing is going to change. It'll be a never ending shit show. Thanks

Admin, could you please move this thread because I don't like it. Deary me

Here bud read back ive supported it. Doesn't offend me, but it's just going off course of the original point. He isn't coming back as they've said. Just gonna be 100 pages of what? Old man bullshit talk? I can deal with that, get me a seat 

[townrwe]

Jul 21, 2021 21:51:39 GMT 1 Chips Longhorn said:

Jul 21, 2021 20:20:03 GMT 1 morleyterrier said:

For fucks sake, for you fucking hand-wringers posting on here, yes you fucking absolute idiots.

How many Posters on here do you truly believe are either racist or homophobic?. Let me answer this for you, you absolute cretins. It's fucking none, zero, nobody, fucking none.

Now fuck off and post on the BBC website where you will be entertained and leave the rest of us alone.

Post of the day . Written shortly before Morley combusted. You'll be missed

That was the bin fire, now the stadium Is on fire.... poor moderation, poor Admin, and I've had to watch people getting themselves banned whilst the admin team are stroking each other without the necessary enhanced DBS.... you may even give me your backing to sort this shit show out. I actually think you would be a good admin despite swaying between liking you and despising you.. if not definitely a candidate to be a moderator.

[4 pts]

Jul 21, 2021 22:04:00 GMT 1 townrwe said:

Jul 21, 2021 21:51:39 GMT 1 Chips Longhorn said:

Post of the day . Written shortly before Morley combusted. You'll be missed

That was the bin fire, now the stadium Is on fire.... poor moderation, poor Admin, and I've had to watch people getting themselves banned whilst the admin team are stroking each other without the necessary enhanced DBS.... you may even give me your backing to sort this shit show out. I actually think you would be a good admin despite swaying between liking you and despising you.. if not definitely a candidate to be a moderator.

I have read this forum for yrs and only post occasionally now that I am a member, but you take the biscuit man. You have lied and lied and lied and now have the gall to question the integrity of the admin 

I'll use my favourite word again

EMBARRASSING 

[Deleted]

Jul 21, 2021 22:19:13 GMT 1 4 pts said:

Jul 21, 2021 22:04:00 GMT 1 townrwe said:

That was the bin fire, now the stadium Is on fire.... poor moderation, poor Admin, and I've had to watch people getting themselves banned whilst the admin team are stroking each other without the necessary enhanced DBS.... you may even give me your backing to sort this shit show out. I actually think you would be a good admin despite swaying between liking you and despising you.. if not definitely a candidate to be a moderator.

I have read this forum for yrs and only post occasionally now that I am a member, but you take the biscuit man. You have lied and lied and lied and now have the gall to question the integrity of the admin 

I'll use my favourite word again

EMBARRASSING 

I take it you've voted him to be admin on that poll then......?

[townrwe]

Jul 21, 2021 22:19:13 GMT 1 4 pts said:

Jul 21, 2021 22:04:00 GMT 1 townrwe said:

That was the bin fire, now the stadium Is on fire.... poor moderation, poor Admin, and I've had to watch people getting themselves banned whilst the admin team are stroking each other without the necessary enhanced DBS.... you may even give me your backing to sort this shit show out. I actually think you would be a good admin despite swaying between liking you and despising you.. if not definitely a candidate to be a moderator.

I have read this forum for yrs and only post occasionally now that I am a member, but you take the biscuit man. You have lied and lied and lied and now have the gall to question the integrity of the admin 

I'll use my favourite word again

EMBARRASSING 

Well I'm glad your vote was used democratically to give them permission to censor what your allowed to say.... they may represent you, but they don't represent us.

[space hardware]

Jul 21, 2021 13:29:44 GMT 1 Gag_N_Bone_Man (Destabiliser) said:

Jul 21, 2021 11:02:19 GMT 1 cyberman said:

Hi Guys - Just to allay fears - am sitting in my three bed roomed semi in Oakes. I use a VPN (the clue is in the name) as there are too many prying eyes on the www to make it a secure place these days.
Can allay fears that I am not Otium ! - so fear and paranoia can end there.

Just moved into the area and settling down until I move on again when my contract expires. Hopefully will get a few games in this season - might even get to meet a few of the posters in person over a pie and a pint.

Lots of reading to do on this forum. Certainly a wide spectrum of views both on football and other subjects. Makes for interesting reading in parts.

What's the best burger you've ever eaten?

Ahem....


YER MUM


Sorry

[Deleted]

It's a little known fact that Chesney Hawkes is not an anagram of Cheesy Wanker.