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Post by 28901 on Aug 15, 2023 16:42:07 GMT 1
You mean sweep it under the carpet like it never happened It's not blue n white tinted spectacles...Read Keith hackets report at the beginning of this thread It didn't cost wolves 200 million did it....what he did Twice has changed footballing history for Town If I ever come across moss I will unashamedly deck the twat That's the way. And Tierney. He's even worse. |
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Post by gledholt terrier on Aug 15, 2023 16:43:38 GMT 1
What exactly does this mean? Forget it never happened? Learn from it? what? Why bother losing sleep over it? And to be honest, I find it rather boring hearing how hard done by we are all the time. The "everyone is always against us" mentality is a bit pathetic, in my opinion. Nottingham Forest were promoted because they scored more goals than we did in the final. And even if we did deserve penalties, the decision not to give them was incompetence rather than corruption. Perfect result for me - simply didn’t want to go up to the PL again (I may be ok with it in the future but it was too soon and the money aspect doesn’t bother me) but we could fail indignantly and blame corruption/incompetence/unconscious bias. |
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Post by 28901 on Aug 15, 2023 16:59:54 GMT 1
Why bother losing sleep over it? And to be honest, I find it rather boring hearing how hard done by we are all the time. The "everyone is always against us" mentality is a bit pathetic, in my opinion. Nottingham Forest were promoted because they scored more goals than we did in the final. And even if we did deserve penalties, the decision not to give them was incompetence rather than corruption. Lose sleep? Nah. It's entertainment. Escapism. A bit of drama and excitement. To be honest I wouldn't lose sleep over our club going bust. Sad, but I'd move on pretty quickly. If only the fortunes of HTAFC were the biggest worry I have, how sweet would life be? It's not because we failed to get promoted, but the manner in which it happened. In real time I didn't think either LoB or Toffolo's were pens either. If I thought it was simple human error I could let it go. With VAR they were both stonewall. Tierney knew it. Moss knew it at least for one of them. Because they saw the video replays. This looks like corruption. It looks like Moss, Tierney et al were keen to ensure the "correct" result. It spoils the enjoyment of the game. And I tend to think our club were happy to go along with it. It stinks tbh. |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 15, 2023 17:41:46 GMT 1
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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 15, 2023 17:45:49 GMT 1
Lose sleep? Nah. It's entertainment. Escapism. A bit of drama and excitement. To be honest I wouldn't lose sleep over our club going bust. Sad, but I'd move on pretty quickly. If only the fortunes of HTAFC were the biggest worry I have, how sweet would life be? It's not because we failed to get promoted, but the manner in which it happened. In real time I didn't think either LoB or Toffolo's were pens either. If I thought it was simple human error I could let it go. With VAR they were both stonewall. Tierney knew it. Moss knew it at least for one of them. Because they saw the video replays. This looks like corruption. It looks like Moss, Tierney et al were keen to ensure the "correct" result. It spoils the enjoyment of the game. And I tend to think our club were happy to go along with it. It stinks tbh. It wouldn’t have changed the result but Town should have shouted far more loudly from the rafters about it in my opinion... Up here Rangers and to a lesser extent Celtic are not backward in coming forward in complaining officially to the governing body about ‘poor refereeing’ - Hypocritical from both of them as they (especially Rangers) get lots of favourable ‘honest mistakes’ by refs and ‘teething troubles’ by VAR officials v The St. Mirren’s and The St.Johnstone’s of this world... Looks like Gers’ last complaint has carried plenty clout as it’s FIFTY SEVEN - yep that’s 57 games in The Scottish League since they’ve had a penalty given against them - and my goodness their players especially Conor Goldson have played basketball on several occasions in the penalty area v several teams and gotten Scot free away with it - nothing said and nothing asked... Europe where Gers and Hoops are underdogs is a very very different animal and Gers have believe it or not conceded 6 penalties in their last eleven games including last Wednesday after a VAR check - Sadly it’ll (these days anyway) favour Notts Forest over Huddy Town and Man Utd over Wolves just as it’ll always favour Celtic over St. Mirren and Rangers over St. Johnstone & Co. up here ! |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Aug 15, 2023 18:13:14 GMT 1
I was just reading new Wolves boss, Gary O'Neil, comments after the game at Old Trafford last night: "Jon Moss said it was a blatant penalty, and it should have been given - fair play to him, he apologised." "Fair play to Jon for saying it was a clear and obvious error - he couldn't believe that the on field referee didn't give it or that VAR didn't intervene". Now I was a massive advocate for moving on but the irony is extremely bitter this morning. The other question is how on earth did Moss get the job, of essentially policing referees, for the PGMOL? I have been quite impressed by Howard Webb as the head of PGMOL but this appointment is risible. When you consider the comments of respected professionals such as Keith Hackett after Wembley last year it beggars belief Moss was appointed, or perhaps it doesn't. I really do think we have to move on but reading all that left a bitter taste this morning. It also demonstrated how much a "jobs for the boys" lark football actually is. I would never advocate any abuse or unpleasantness towards Mr Moss but I hope if he ever visits the John Smith's in an official capacity he is merely shown to his seat and given a cold cup of tea. Rant over. The only seat I'd be showing him to, is one with a very fucking high electrical current running through it. |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Aug 15, 2023 18:19:23 GMT 1
And I tend to think our club were happy to go along with it. It stinks tbh. It wouldn’t have changed the result but Town should have shouted far more loudly from the rafters about it in my opinion... Up here Rangers and to a lesser extent Celtic are not backward in coming forward in complaining officially to the governing body about ‘poor refereeing’ - Hypocritical from both of them as they (especially Rangers) get lots of favourable ‘honest mistakes’ by refs and ‘teething troubles’ by VAR officials v The St. Mirren’s and The St.Johnstone’s of this world... Looks like Gers’ last complaint has carried plenty clout as it’s FIFTY SEVEN - yep that’s 57 games in The Scottish League since they’ve had a penalty given against them - and my goodness their players especially Conor Goldson have played basketball on several occasions in the penalty area v several teams and gotten Scot free away with it - nothing said and nothing asked... Europe where Gers and Hoops are underdogs is a very very different animal and Gers have believe it or not conceded 6 penalties in their last eleven games including last Wednesday after a VAR check - Sadly it’ll (these days anyway) favour Notts Forest over Huddy Town and Man Utd over Wolves just as it’ll always favour Celtic over St. Mirren and Rangers over St. Johnstone & Co. up here ! This is the main reason why I no longer have any interest in whatsoever in football anymore (outside of HTAFC) The level of corruption grows every year, as does the brazenness with which it is displayed, there just isn't even any effort to hide it anymore. Football may well be the 'beautiful game', but it's by far the ugliest sporting business around. |
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Aug 15, 2023 18:24:32 GMT 1
And I tend to think our club were happy to go along with it. It stinks tbh. It wouldn’t have changed the result but Town should have shouted far more loudly from the rafters about it in my opinion... Up here Rangers and to a lesser extent Celtic are not backward in coming forward in complaining officially to the governing body about ‘poor refereeing’ - Hypocritical from both of them as they (especially Rangers) get lots of favourable ‘honest mistakes’ by refs and ‘teething troubles’ by VAR officials v The St. Mirren’s and The St.Johnstone’s of this world... Looks like Gers’ last complaint has carried plenty clout as it’s FIFTY SEVEN - yep that’s 57 games in The Scottish League since they’ve had a penalty given against them - and my goodness their players especially Conor Goldson have played basketball on several occasions in the penalty area v several teams and gotten Scot free away with it - nothing said and nothing asked... Europe where Gers and Hoops are underdogs is a very very different animal and Gers have believe it or not conceded 6 penalties in their last eleven games including last Wednesday after a VAR check - Sadly it’ll (these days anyway) favour Notts Forest over Huddy Town and Man Utd over Wolves just as it’ll always favour Celtic over St. Mirren and Rangers over St. Johnstone & Co. up here ! Brilliant stats there, Westie, if anyone had any doubts there was no bias in VAR decisions, they should have a good think about that. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 15, 2023 19:34:39 GMT 1
Why bother losing sleep over it? And to be honest, I find it rather boring hearing how hard done by we are all the time. The "everyone is always against us" mentality is a bit pathetic, in my opinion. Nottingham Forest were promoted because they scored more goals than we did in the final. And even if we did deserve penalties, the decision not to give them was incompetence rather than corruption. Perfect result for me - simply didn’t want to go up to the PL again (I may be ok with it in the future but it was too soon and the money aspect doesn’t bother me) but we could fail indignantly and blame corruption/incompetence/unconscious bias. In my opinion, too many people like to fall back on the "we were cheated" line rather than look at the man in charge on the day and ask why we didn't have any shots on target or seem to even have a go at Forest? We were absolute cack on the day and that was nothing to do with the referee or VAR. |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 15, 2023 19:40:32 GMT 1
Perfect result for me - simply didn’t want to go up to the PL again (I may be ok with it in the future but it was too soon and the money aspect doesn’t bother me) but we could fail indignantly and blame corruption/incompetence/unconscious bias. In my opinion, too many people like to fall back on the "we were cheated" line rather than look at the man in charge on the day and ask why we didn't have any shots on target or seem to even have a go at Forest? We were absolute cack on the day and that was nothing to do with the referee or VAR. As opposed to Forests 2 on target, the 25 yard pea rollers straight into Nicholls arms. They no more deserved to win the game than us. They had the first half, we had the 2nd half. But maybe the little fat c*** shouldn't be commenting and apologising on penalty decisions after the way he reffed that game 🤷 Anyway, we've been through this before. We won't agree on it 😁 |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 15, 2023 19:41:41 GMT 1
In my opinion, too many people like to fall back on the "we were cheated" line rather than look at the man in charge on the day and ask why we didn't have any shots on target or seem to even have a go at Forest? We were absolute cack on the day and that was nothing to do with the referee or VAR. As opposed to Forests 2 on target, the 25 yard pea rollers straight into Nicholls arms. They no more deserved to win the game than us. They had the first half, we had the 2nd half. But maybe the little fat card shouldn't be commenting and apologising on penalty decisions after the way he reffed that game 🤷 Anyway, we've been through this before. We won't agree on it 😁 It was the worst game of football I've ever witnessed, but Forest did the job, they actually scored. We didn't & never came close to scoring. Blame Moss all you want but the man to blame wasn't the referee. |
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Aug 15, 2023 19:43:38 GMT 1
As opposed to Forests 2 on target, the 25 yard pea rollers straight into Nicholls arms. They no more deserved to win the game than us. They had the first half, we had the 2nd half. But maybe the little fat card shouldn't be commenting and apologising on penalty decisions after the way he reffed that game 🤷 Anyway, we've been through this before. We won't agree on it 😁 It was the worst game of football I've ever witnessed, but Forest did the job, they actually scored. We didn't & never came close to scoring. Blame Moss all you want but the man to blame wasn't the referee. I mean, technically, they didn't. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 15, 2023 19:46:07 GMT 1
We've been here before . The man to blame is 81 points Carlos
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 15, 2023 19:47:28 GMT 1
It was the worst game of football I've ever witnessed, but Forest did the job, they actually scored. We didn't & never came close to scoring. Blame Moss all you want but the man to blame wasn't the referee. I mean, technically, they didn't. Didn't realise own goals didn't count anymore. |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 15, 2023 19:48:13 GMT 1
We've been here before . The man to blame is 81 points Carlos Aye, the shit bastard 🙄🙄🙄 |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 15, 2023 19:49:14 GMT 1
We've been here before . The man to blame is 81 points Carlos You can get 81 points and still be to blame for losing a match. Not playing Turton, Holmes and Russell, who were all key players at that point was his doing, not Jon Moss'. But anyway, I won't be responding to anything further from you as I can't be arsed arguing with you. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 15, 2023 19:49:38 GMT 1
We've been here before . The man to blame is 81 points Carlos Aye, the shit bastard 🙄🙄🙄 Never said he was shit, I said he was a card. There's a difference. Give me Neil Warnock any day of the week. |
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Post by Junior & Onuora on Aug 15, 2023 19:52:03 GMT 1
I mean, technically, they didn't. Didn't realise own goals didn't count anymore. Didn't say they didn't. But to anyone who didn't watch the game, your post clearly implies that one of their players scored through attacking endeavour, which clearly means they were the better team. However, it was an own goal. An own goal could just as easily be the keeper throwing it into his own net without an opposition player in his half. But don't let stop your grinding you axe against Carlos. If only we had your man Fotheringam in charge, eh? |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 15, 2023 19:53:29 GMT 1
Didn't realise own goals didn't count anymore. Didn't say they didn't. But to anyone who didn't watch the game, your post clearly implies that one of their players scored through attacking endeavour, which clearly means they were the better team. However, it was an own goal. An own goal could just as easily be the keeper throwing it into his own net without an opposition player in his half. But don't let stop your grinding you axe against Carlos. If only we had your man Fotheringam in charge, eh? My man Fotheringham? Care to explain that one? |
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Post by andyeastleake on Aug 15, 2023 19:56:27 GMT 1
And even if we did deserve penalties, the decision not to give them was incompetence rather than corruption TBF how can you be so certain? Was any investigation ever been carried out? (I'm sure we'd have heard if there was). IMHO the surest way to ensure corruption occurs one day is never to investigate instances where there might have been. You might well be right, but TBH I'd prefer someone who has investigated the situation told me that. |
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Post by terryya on Aug 15, 2023 20:18:38 GMT 1
Nothing will convince me it wasn't corruption.
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Post by westislandterrier on Aug 15, 2023 20:27:12 GMT 1
As opposed to Forests 2 on target, the 25 yard pea rollers straight into Nicholls arms. They no more deserved to win the game than us. They had the first half, we had the 2nd half. But maybe the little fat card shouldn't be commenting and apologising on penalty decisions after the way he reffed that game 🤷 Anyway, we've been through this before. We won't agree on it 😁 It was the worst game of football I've ever witnessed, but Forest did the job, they actually scored. We didn't & never came close to scoring. Blame Moss all you want but the man to blame wasn't the referee.That’d only be the case had Town missed their two stonewall penalties ! |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 15, 2023 21:27:21 GMT 1
And even if we did deserve penalties, the decision not to give them was incompetence rather than corruption TBF how can you be so certain? Was any investigation ever been carried out? (I'm sure we'd have heard if there was). IMHO the surest way to ensure corruption occurs one day is never to investigate instances where there might have been. You might well be right, but TBH I'd prefer someone who has investigated the situation told me that. Because the officials in this country are just fucking shite, from top to bottom, not corrupt. |
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 15, 2023 21:28:14 GMT 1
Very interested to know how a bloke I wanted sacking months before he went, and who I told to resign to his face, is "my man"...
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Post by Drew Peacock on Aug 15, 2023 23:55:24 GMT 1
TBF how can you be so certain? Was any investigation ever been carried out? (I'm sure we'd have heard if there was). IMHO the surest way to ensure corruption occurs one day is never to investigate instances where there might have been. You might well be right, but TBH I'd prefer someone who has investigated the situation told me that. Because the officials in this country are just fucking shite, from top to bottom, not corrupt. The decision not to give a penalty to Wolves last night had nothing whatsoever to do with the referees being shite. |
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Post by rockwall on Aug 16, 2023 6:33:15 GMT 1
It was the worst game of football I've ever witnessed, but Forest did the job, they actually scored. We didn't & never came close to scoring. Blame Moss all you want but the man to blame wasn't the referee. I mean, technically, they didn't.  ? Nottingham Forest 1 Huddersfield Town 0 That '1' is a goal, so how did they technically not score? Confused. |
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Post by Jimuano on Aug 16, 2023 6:55:14 GMT 1
I mean, technically, they didn't. ? Nottingham Forest 1 Huddersfield Town 0 That '1' is a goal, so how did they technically not score? Colwill own goal - We scored their goal for them. Fine margins. Neither side outshone the other. They got lucky with the own goal, we were unlucky and on another day would have had 2 penalties awarded. (Particularly after a lengthy var check on one of the incidents which 99% of watchers would agree was a definite pen). Still don't understand the decision. Ah well. Confused. |
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Post by King Neil on Aug 16, 2023 9:07:32 GMT 1
As opposed to Forests 2 on target, the 25 yard pea rollers straight into Nicholls arms. They no more deserved to win the game than us. They had the first half, we had the 2nd half. But maybe the little fat card shouldn't be commenting and apologising on penalty decisions after the way he reffed that game 🤷 Anyway, we've been through this before. We won't agree on it 😁 It was the worst game of football I've ever witnessed, but Forest did the job, they actually scored. We didn't & never came close to scoring. Blame Moss all you want but the man to blame wasn't the referee. So are you saying penalties don't count in football matches? Yes forest did score and Town could have possibly scored twice had the system in place not cheated us...yes moss for whatever reason didn't give either decision, but there was var in play to stop such mistakes yet they didn't do their job properly either!! Regardless of open play they should have been 2 penalties given! All the papers said it was a disgrace and their captain thanked Jon moss at their civic reception pissin themselves laughing on the Town Hall steps!! |
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Post by King Neil on Aug 16, 2023 9:12:03 GMT 1
And as for forest doing the job and scoring
Colwill scored for them...ballbag
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Post by htafcokay on Aug 16, 2023 9:15:49 GMT 1
It was the worst game of football I've ever witnessed, but Forest did the job, they actually scored. We didn't & never came close to scoring. Blame Moss all you want but the man to blame wasn't the referee. So are you saying penalties don't count in football matches? Yes forest did score and Town could have possibly scored twice had the system in place not cheated us...yes moss for whatever reason didn't give either decision, but there was var in play to stop such mistakes yet they didn't do their job properly either!! Regardless of open play they should have been 2 penalties given! All the papers said it was a disgrace and their captain thanked Jon moss at their civic reception pissin themselves laughing on the Town Hall steps!! Are you saying that penalties are an automatic goal? For all we know, we could have missed them. Keep your powder dry, things like this tend to swing around in football and in the coming years, I'm sure we'll have our opportunity to get one over on Forest. I got over it as soon as I left Wembley. |
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