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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 9, 2022 21:42:11 GMT 1
Here's my imput on the matter, a good friend of mine who I met this morning, and has some contact with the club, says he got a text from someone at the club, 2 days before Carlos left. Something as gone on at the club, but unfortunately he cannot elaborate, he has to stay stum. WOW!
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 9, 2022 21:44:57 GMT 1
However, Bromby, I think in his Radio Leeds interview, said the club were consistent in their plan, E.G. Carlos was not consistent, asking for more or he jumps? It appears he disregarded his commitment & chose to end his contract. Or, he opted to leave because the Chairman failed to live up to his end of the bargain, and instead expected Corberan to yet again make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Which bargain? Please tell.
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 9, 2022 21:49:08 GMT 1
Until Carlos puts another side, it is the only one we have. If you think it is inaccurate you are saying Bromby is lying? Only Carlos, or others present, can do that! We've been here already, it takes a certain level of naivety/gullibility to swallow the party line on this, especially when the evidence speaks for itself. "The party line"!!! Ffs tell us all then.
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 9, 2022 21:50:36 GMT 1
When people say "the club / Hoyle/ bromby wouldn't lie " . Well it's not always a barefaced lie . But it tends to be carefully worded manoeuvrings. The guy just isn't going to say "Carlos wanted to sign players from sainsburys but we're shopping at lidl " . So what you get is stuff about " Carlos was aligned then he became unaligned " . Which actually means nothing in itself Exactly, it's political-esque nonsense designed to tangle the minds of gammon, and more often than not it works unfortunately. 'Tell them everything by telling them nothing', is at the very heart of how any football club approaches the media on these types of matters. You are the one spouting the gammonery.
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 9, 2022 21:52:43 GMT 1
Not at all. Perhaps I'm a little old fashioned though, if someone says something in public and leaves themselves open to contradiction, I trust what they say is truthful (unless there's called Boris). There you go . You've answered your own point . I think the word is."gullible " And the word gullible is not in any dictionary, check it out.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2022 21:53:01 GMT 1
So you assume everything someone says in public is a lie. That shows up your standards of judgement, i.e. the same expectations about honesty as PH. Shall we look back to see what you had to say about his misdemeanours? Here's a good example.. Bromby quoted today "We're trying 24/7 to bring the right players to the club. Dean [Hoyle] is supportive and making funds available" So he's not lying is he ? Because Hoyle WILL be making funds available. But its vague . So in reality it's saying absolutely nothing in terms of giving information to supporters. OK, I'll bite. If there isn't a player today, for which Hoyle needs to stump up the funds, how can he do other than make funds available? Except of course to tell all the selling clubs, Dean's given me X million to spend, so put your prices up ASAP cos we're loaded!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 9, 2022 22:05:52 GMT 1
Here's a good example.. Bromby quoted today "We're trying 24/7 to bring the right players to the club. Dean [Hoyle] is supportive and making funds available" So he's not lying is he ? Because Hoyle WILL be making funds available. But its vague . So in reality it's saying absolutely nothing in terms of giving information to supporters. OK, I'll bite. If there isn't a player today, for which Hoyle needs to stump up the funds, how can he do other than make funds available? Except of course to tell all the selling clubs, Dean's given me X million to spend, so put your prices up ASAP cos we're loaded! Ok that means nothing to me . Let's end it there
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 9, 2022 22:07:35 GMT 1
There you go . You've answered your own point . I think the word is."gullible " And the word gullible is not in any dictionary, check it out. gullible /ˈɡʌləb(ə)l/ adjective easily persuaded to believe something; credulous. "an attempt to persuade a gullible public to spend their money" I guess I was gullible enough to look
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2022 22:26:25 GMT 1
OK, I'll bite. If there isn't a player today, for which Hoyle needs to stump up the funds, how can he do other than make funds available? Except of course to tell all the selling clubs, Dean's given me X million to spend, so put your prices up ASAP cos we're loaded! Ok that means nothing to me . Let's end it there Are you a sexist, you appear to be happy to argue with everyone else on this forum? However, with me you wimp out!
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Post by thomo on Jul 9, 2022 22:30:17 GMT 1
Exactly, the Club should have chained him to his desk, then locked the office door! How inept that they did not think of this! Or was it because DH cares so little for the Club he wouldn't spend money for the lock and key. 😋 A lot of People in an uninformed position making assumptions (not aimed at your post here may I add). How do we know that the demands of Corberan were not unrealistic?, as in if we had visibility of them, we would see how unreasonable they were and impossible to meet!?. How do we know his demands (if there were any) were indeed reasonable and should have been met?. We don't. In summary, everybody is piling on the latter and is making unfounded assumptions that what the Club needed to do to keep Corberan was realistic. Nobody is considering that perhaps what was needed to keep him was completely unrealistic and thus Hoyle is not culpable. I guess we will never know which in itself is part of the issue. We will know if Toffolo or OBrien go and are not replaced and a good chunk of the cash is not reinvested in the first team
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 9, 2022 22:40:03 GMT 1
Ok that means nothing to me . Let's end it there Are you a sexist, you appear to be happy to argue with everyone else on this forum? However, with me you wimp out! Yeah it must be I'm a sexist. And have nothing to do with the fact you don't make any sense whatsoever . I'm going to block you now . Please don't take it personal
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2022 22:47:49 GMT 1
Are you a sexist, you appear to be happy to argue with everyone else on this forum? However, with me you wimp out! Yeah it must be I'm a sexist. And have nothing to do with the fact you don't make any sense whatsoever . I'm going to block you now . Please don't take it personal That's fine with me. Let's just remind people what you didn't understand: "OK, I'll bite. If there isn't a player today, for which Hoyle needs to stump up the funds, how can he do other than make funds available? Except of course to tell all the selling clubs, Dean's given me X million to spend, so put your prices up ASAP cos we're loaded!" Yeah, simple wasn't it. Advertise how much you have to spend on players & don't be surprised if other clubs ask you to spend it all.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jul 9, 2022 23:26:02 GMT 1
Or, he opted to leave because the Chairman failed to live up to his end of the bargain, and instead expected Corberan to yet again make a silk purse out of a sow's ear. Which bargain? Please tell. The one in which he publicly stated he would back the manager.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jul 9, 2022 23:30:57 GMT 1
We've been here already, it takes a certain level of naivety/gullibility to swallow the party line on this, especially when the evidence speaks for itself. "The party line"!!! Ffs tell us all then. Why on earth are you commenting on this topic when you have quite clearly failed to read any of the information/comments/statements relating to this issue? Go away, and don't come back until you've actually apprised yourself of the matter in hand.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jul 9, 2022 23:40:51 GMT 1
Exactly, it's political-esque nonsense designed to tangle the minds of gammon, and more often than not it works unfortunately. 'Tell them everything by telling them nothing', is at the very heart of how any football club approaches the media on these types of matters. You are the one spouting the gammonery. Your complete failure to grasp the most basic concepts is no fault of mine, I'm afraid.
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Post by alexdire on Jul 10, 2022 13:59:23 GMT 1
Doesn't mean he's been tapped up though. Could be just now he's available a club moves for him. That’d be convenient wouldn’t it? I think he’s gonna appear somewhere else aswell, probably Leeds. I can't see the 49ers wanting him. They've got their mam for the project.
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Post by richhtfc on Jul 10, 2022 14:09:26 GMT 1
That’d be convenient wouldn’t it? I think he’s gonna appear somewhere else aswell, probably Leeds. I can't see the 49ers wanting him. They've got their mam for the project. I thought they were looking for an assistant for him though?
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 10, 2022 14:26:43 GMT 1
Call me a cynic but I wasn’t the only one who saw constant frustration actually on the pitch from Toffolo O brien and Russell towards our Duracell ex manager -his tactics were bizarre sometimes and I don’t think his manner will have actually inspired any of the players -I also think that Dean is being whacked non stop on some spurious assumptions to say the least -I’m happy with our three main signings and happy to give Danny a go -let’s be positive and move on Agree we should move on, but I can't ignore the 'bizarre' tactics comment. A manager that got our squad to third won't likely have employed 'bizarre' tactics, rather employed tactics that you and I don't understand, because we're laymen.
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Post by alexdire on Jul 10, 2022 14:40:13 GMT 1
I can't see the 49ers wanting him. They've got their mam for the project. I thought they were looking for an assistant for him though? I can't see Corberan taking an assistants role. Also I can't see them bringing someone in from the Bielsa era. Even if he was there before, he still has the link.
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Post by ben1987 on Feb 15, 2023 22:48:40 GMT 1
Only one way to make feelings known and that's before the home game against Burnley First game of the season, on TV so plenty of opportunities to tell the world what we think about this shocking state of the club. Back the players and poor Danny Schofield but Dean Hoyle deserves all the contempt we can mustre before and after the game Hang on a minute, we are all shocked, disappointed and unhappy about yesterday's news. But 'shocking state of the Club' We are good Championship level Club We have finished 3rd only last season We lost a play-off final to get to the Premier League We have secured long-term deals for key Players such as Sorba and Nicholls We have some superb Players such as LOB and Toffolo (well, at the time of writing we do!) Loads of season tickets sold (and we all like the cheap price we pay for them don't we?) We have a great squad of Players in my opinion But the club is in a 'shocking state'?. 👀
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Post by space hardware on Feb 15, 2023 22:50:02 GMT 1
Hang on a minute, we are all shocked, disappointed and unhappy about yesterday's news. But 'shocking state of the Club' We are good Championship level Club We have finished 3rd only last season We lost a play-off final to get to the Premier League We have secured long-term deals for key Players such as Sorba and Nicholls We have some superb Players such as LOB and Toffolo (well, at the time of writing we do!) Loads of season tickets sold (and we all like the cheap price we pay for them don't we?) We have a great squad of Players in my opinion But the club is in a 'shocking state'?. 👀 Hmmmmmm.
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Post by wiltshireterrier on Feb 15, 2023 22:51:49 GMT 1
Let's hope there is some clarity on the matter....but don't hold your breath. We got Clarity on the matter alright 🤣
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Feb 15, 2023 22:53:52 GMT 1
Can I ask what the point of bringing this thread back up is?
Shall I see if there's a Ken Davy/Stan thread anywhere?
We are where we are...
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Post by Mastercracker on Feb 15, 2023 22:54:45 GMT 1
Hindsight merchants
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Post by workshyfop on Feb 15, 2023 22:58:55 GMT 1
Entitled Hindsight merchants
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Post by space hardware on Feb 15, 2023 22:59:46 GMT 1
Can I ask what the point of bringing this thread back up is? Shall I see if there's a Ken Davy/Stan thread anywhere? We are where we are... Because Morley talks fucking shite and it needs to be highlighted?
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Post by rugbyterrier on Feb 15, 2023 23:01:06 GMT 1
I think most of us could extrapolate how this season was going to go without hindsight. Although it's actually far worse than I expected. " In Dean we trust" What a genuine shame for everyone who cares about our club.
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Post by 3Pipe on Feb 16, 2023 6:54:09 GMT 1
Gullible, entitled, hindsight merchants.
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Feb 16, 2023 7:49:38 GMT 1
Can I ask what the point of bringing this thread back up is? Shall I see if there's a Ken Davy/Stan thread anywhere? We are where we are... Because Morley talks fucking shite and it needs to be highlighted? Glad I'm not the only one that's noticed.
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Post by Floyds on Feb 16, 2023 12:07:15 GMT 1
I agree with your post here!. Your original post referred to the Club being in a 'shocking state' which is different to what you are saying here. The Club is not in a shocking state. Granted, there are some questions that need answers. I don't think it's in a shocking state now. A lot depends on our transfer activity (or lack thereof) and how we start the season. But IF we sell LOB and Toffolo, don't replace them and are bottom after 10 games with Schofield under pressure... Time will tell / wait and see etc. Oh dear. Didn’t even last 10 games. Hardly needed to be Nostradamus to see where this season was heading.
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